No they weren't doing anything because they knew the hot head in yellow would go bonkers on them, too.

When you are told to shut your month or get ass whooping from the ref what would you do

@@wesleystafford8521 The hot head is the coach who doesn't know how to keep his mouth shut.

@@Subangelis I don't know how you'd know that as we don't have much context here at all. Are you the ref who was throwing everyone out?

Ummmmmmm...it was the coach numnuts

Yep. (old guy mode on) Back in my day, we played football, basketball, baseball, ... nearly everything, in unorganized neighborhood matches. No officials, no or few spectators, and ALWAYS managed to resolve disputes. Well, sometimes tempers would flare - but that was part of the fun. Then we turned around and made it difficult for our children to experience the same thing - albeit mostly out of a desire to make things better for them. It's not all bad now - but the neighborhood pickup games - once a nearly daily thing, are pretty rare now, and that's for sure not a good thing.

agree

oh wait im a ref

That's nonsense. The center referee gave a vague warning; but the one thing he was specific about was that he didn't want the coach to say a word to him. The coach vented to the AR respectfully, and the center ref is not being reasonable to kick him out for that.

@@FavreianVengeance We don’t know what was said before that; I assume it was not the first warning. But he said not to speak to the AR again; he is “telling” the coach to stop. In literally less than 10 seconds, the coach is talking to the AR again. My referee assignor once told us; “In my experience, 80% of coaches apologize once you ask them to stop. The next 15% are quiet after you give two warnings (Ask, Tell). The last 5% are idiots and get what they deserve.” This guy is in that 5%. 🤣

@@charliedecker1105 so basically Ref are train to be asshole

I didn't see anybody out of control on that video.

@@wesleystafford8521 Whatever happened with that parent must have occurred before the video was shot.

+Victor K so what happens if the parent is on the visiting team??

+Victor K Good for you. So am I. I am a grade 6 state referee in Texas. So what you're saying is that at any point in time, the home team can eject whoever they want for any reason... That's completely stupid. The referee, and only the referee, can eject ANYONE at any time, without reason necessary.

+Julien Tagnon I'd like to apologize. USSF and PRO rules in the US are probably different than in Sweden. Here in the states, we (as the referee) are the ones that handle ejections for both teams. It must be different in Sweden.

+Victor K Correct on the high school and college.

+Victor K not but your also wrong about home team ejected a parent from going on the field that is responsible of the referee but keep thinking its not. usually in the past most leagues didn't want officials to handle the parents. When we had an issue for youth softball in states... the home team had to handle there team... we had the assnt commission sit with fans to make sure they behave themselves from the night before

what did he even do i cant hear a dam thing

@@vlz.matthew - you can't hear what he initially did, that brought the referee's attention. But, you do see that the referee cautions the coach for his behaviour. After that, the coach has words with the assistant referee (you can hear the ref refer to him as "AR"). While you can't hear it, it's most likely something disparaging about the main referee. The referee hears it and sends the coach off. Like many coaches, he believes that now that he has been sent off - there's no further punishment that can be levied against him. So, he decides to have a bit of a say. Guess what? If you don't leave, when you're ejected, that's when the punishments (even at amateur level) can get quite serious. After the coach leaves, you can then hear a new person getting involved. He demands to know the name of the referee (if he was involved with either team, he'd have it already). He says something like "What is your name, or do you not have any balls to back up....". That statement goes into threatening territory - so he gets sent off too. I've refereed at a lot of levels, including this age of kids. So many coaches, that take this age level, are the absolute worst. When you see older, professional, players with really bad habits/attitudes - they learn that from bad coaches, at this level.

Same with me. I played a game and the girls were talking trash and being mean to me and my team. The coach was also very mean. We ended up beating them 5-1 so I guess we proved them wrong!

He'd be the next one gone the moment he said that to me.

He got tossed as well. Said for cussing and abusing him.

maybe. maybe not. i think the ref handled the situation just fine. he ejected the coach and ejected a second person after being cursed at. look at the kids while all of this is happening. they are waiting and waiting for the game to begin again. just a poor job of coaching by the "adults" on the field.

mykeeb33 Not sure if it was Cal, but it was at Heritage

Parents may not know anything about soccer but many of them still complain anyway.

I'm

@Puckman637 two cents.

He was making comments to the AR.

I’m 62 and I’d also love to be in my late forties.

Coach is the diva. "Or do you not have the balls to tell me?!" if front of girls. Very classy...

Lol

Same

and what else ????

As he should.

He was obviously talking to the near-side AR, who appeared to be young and new to refereeing. Good on the center ref for protecting the young AR from abuse. Look, the coach got his warning, then turned back, and appearing to continue talking towards the AR. Sure, it may not have been a lot that was said, but he had gotten his warning and chose to ignore it. And I really can't fault the ref for protecting the young AR.

He doesn't have to SAY anything. Gestures are dissent, also.

He was making comments to the AR. Try again.

this was on public land. All refs can send off a parent , coach or spectator.

@@traciemckinnon4052 If it is ' public ' land , then anyone can stand there. he is not trespassing. private land , he can be removed. whatever the league rules are , if its ' public ' land , ref can not do a thing. i think it must have been private land.

@@richard6440 while you may be correct that the ref can't force the coach off public land, what he is legally entitled to do is forfeit the game on the coach for not leaving the field of play upon ejection.

@@paulmiddleton4215 The field of play is the pitch itself. IF it is public land, he can stand right on the sidelines. The ref better have a VERY good reason to abandon or forfeit the game.

Wrong. The city puts the association in charge, and in turn gives the referees discretion. They are in charge whether you like it or not.

This is ridiculous. I have never ever worked with a referee anywhere that said "well let's screw up this team today" and set out making calls against one side. Plus, referees aren't employed or hired by a club or "home team," they are independently assigned to games. I don't care who you are, the referee made the right decision here, and accusing the referee of being biased is one of the most incorrect statements you could make...seems like you're the only biased one here.

Brandon ASV Instructor I don't know where you live, but I live in western PA. Clubs here do in fact hire the ref's that judge the games. There are ref's that I have seen first hand actively call games in favor of their home team. In fact when I was coaching to avoid this issue. I told my girls score goals. So they can't deny you a win. When I saw the same girl commit multiple fouls in front of the ref. As I stated one being she was face to face with my daughter and shoved her. He let that foul go. Now you may not like what I had to say. I really don't care if you do. Bad calls are a problem in your field.

+Annice Culp I ref for PA West aswell. In my 3 years of doing it I have never meet someone that purposefully threw a game.

Nick Woten they have some of the worst ref's I have ever come across. They are completely incapable of being impartial in a game. One thing I learned as a coach in that league. The only way to deal with situations like that. Is to score as many goals as you can. The ref's no matter where you travel act as the extra player on the field. I have seen blatant and very dangerous fouls ignored by ref's. When a child has been injured having to scream at the top of my lungs to get the ref's attention. Despite the player being obviously hurt. That nasty gram that was sent out by PA West. Without advising that bad behavior from ref's will be addressed.

+Annice Michelle I can only speak to my experience, but that experience is both as a current referee and a current travel soccer coach. (Also the father of a player who is himself a referee). In all the games that I have refereed and coached, there are only two times where I have genuinely believed that there was a referee who was a true "homer"--actually calling the game in one team's favor. In one case, I still believe that; in the other, I have since heard from others who played for that club that the referee does not favor the team, but is simply a horrible referee. More often, a bad referee is not actually for or against one team, but instead either his personal style of play or his inability to "read" fouls results in one team's style being benefited by the referee. Not by intent on the referee's part, but instead by his own incompetence. I once worked for a center referee who called every little brush as a foul. When he was (justifiably) criticized by a coach due to a goal being scored on what should not have been a foul, he ejected the coach outright. Now I'm sure that coach believes that this referee was biased against him. In fact, both of us who were his assistant referee's were convinced that he was "simply" a terrible referee with thin skin. On the other side, often one will see well-coached teams work to find out just how far they can "push the line" in terms of physical play. Unfortunately, a team which is prone to do this will get substantial advantage over another team if the referee doesn't have the courage or foul recognition to blow the whistle and issue appropriate cards. So I understand your frustration, but as a coach, referee, and parent my experience is that it is more due to incompetence by some than outright bias. That may not make it much better to accept.... No referees who I respect ever worry about who the home team is. We try to call a fair match. The best compliment that I can receive as a referee is to have the losing team's coach, players, or spectators tell me that I did a good job. And this happens quite frequently.

you file a complaint with the association, don't you? needs more than just one disgruntled coach or parent to show the claim as you state it is true.

Instead of your unlikely scenario of having a back up referee at low level youth soccer games, maybe you become a referee yourself? Are you willing to take the classes, continuing education, give up nights and weekends, make split decisions, enforce the laws of the game and deal with parents and coaches who don’t know the rules and disrupt the game while voicing their ignorance? Happy to have you.

@@freckledbandit8017 orrrrrr here’s an idea. The ones that take the classes, give up nights and weekends, continue their education, make split decisions and all that obvious stuff you said, and still suck at the job don’t get to be officials anymore. I’m not saying I could do better I’m saying the ones doing it need to do better.

Two years ago, a referee was yelled at by you for sucking and quit. It was his first season. He was going to be really good but... Not anymore. That is what your attitude leads to.