I really agree with your comment because I have these and while I think my own experience matches Kevin's review perfectly, the only difference for me is that I actually like them. I don't hear anything he doesn't, I even agree with him that these don't do any one thing particularly well, and I wouldn't recommend them to anyone, but they do most things well enough, and I just don't have anything else like that among my many vintage speakers. I feel exactly the same as Kevin does about how they sound. If I had a pair of KEF LS50s or LS3-5As like he does, I probably wouldn't have any use for these either. But since I didn't have anything like these before, I'm really glad I got a pair.

I am one of those people, but I am not really an audiophile, can't afford to be. That said, they are not great with all recordings. Another thing, I have seen a lot of balanced reviews of this speaker. Most of them actually have some negatives as well as positives to say about them.

​@@E_Dtl I think if you pay attention to sound quality at all, it's fair to call yourself an audiophile if you wish. I suppose if we wanted to say the Elac Debut 2.0 does anything particularly well, we could say it doesn't mess anything up, and it's balanced, and it's relatively neutral for such a low cost speaker, and it is pretty low distortion for such a low cost speaker. I do think it's really a pretty good speaker. But it's a budget speaker. It's a lot like much costlier speakers in that it has low distortion and the same kind of EQ, which is interesting because EQ is the one thing that is rarely as flat as this is in such an inexpensive speaker. I think the EQ for this is why so many people think it's a great speaker. That is the one thing you used to have to spend a lot of money to get - not because it's so hard to do, but because no one thought putting such a neutral "audiophile" EQ in a low cost speaker made sense. What I don't like about these is hardly a criticism. They don't have very low bass. But nothing this size is ever going to have very low bass! (there are $11,000 exceptions of course) For the price of new speakers, I think these are pretty hard to beat. That being said, in the USA we have access to Polk Audio speakers which are nowhere near as neutral and higher distortion, but for the price VERY enjoyable and an excellent value for people who listen largely to contemporary popular music. I would probably be satisfied with sub-$500 Polk Audio mid-sized towers for myself except that I listen to classical, jazz and a wide array of recordings from the last 90 years that the mainstream Polk Audio speakers just aren't designed to be good at. It's the EQ. Most inexpensive speakers have an "EQ du jour" sound that makes them appealing to budget buyers who's primary listening is contemporary popular music. That's what's neat about the Elac Debut 2.0 - they are "audiophile hobbyist EQ," and that makes them unique at their price point.

@@AndyBHome thanks for the comment, read it with great interest. When I say that I am not and audiophile, it's mainly because of the economics, but also just because I like to enjoy the music, without any thougt of science and engineering But back to the speakers, I use them with a subwoofer, in 2. 1 and in 5.1.2 atmos. When I enjoy them most, is when hearing recordings with details. When it's raw rock power, I miss something. In the future, they will probably serve as satellites.

@@E_Dtl yes it's so true to me what you say about their strength! On a really good detailed recording they're great. But for something like rock with percussion they just don't "bring it" the way so many others would. That's something I was almost trying to say but couldn't quite grasp. What an excellent observation!

£50 that sounds good to me Cheers K

he is so wrong about the elac 2.0 b,2 for me thay sound awesome

That’s great thanks everyone you know I just like doing this that’s the good thing

that’s gotta be normal for lower sensitivity speakers like these.

Does Marantz PM6007 produce enough power for elacs?

@@dalbajovababis At low volume more power would push a bit more detail in the sound, but at moderate volume the sound is open, tight, and detailed.

Thanks for the info Marc cheers from London

Yes I probably won’t get hold of this new equipment certainly not for free There is still tons of stuff I can review and talk about Cheers K

Yes you literally find yourself thinking am I Speaker is broken what’s going on what are these people talking about? They’re talking about making money really, I guess

Thanks mate I will keep my eyes open

Yes in general a lot of Japanese speakers weren’t very good. I generally think British for speakers . And with that pioneer which has a big sound I just think you want big speakers big old Wharfdale Glendale big old Goodmans magnum ..celestion 44 It’s hard to detail this because a lot of vintage speakers weren’t that good don’t go into the mid60s they’re too old. B and w dm3 maybe of Kefs like 104 ab. Or concerto (v big )

Ok thanks! I've been researching Celestion ditton 33 which I'm hearing good things about. The ditton 44 might be bit too big I think? What do you think? Thanks Anton

Appreciate the feedback my friend

Well I wish I knew my guess is that it was just designed on the computer and on that metric it looked good I don’t know it’s a mystery to me how the speakers are rated well

I own them too. I agree with you.

@@bowiefan6652 Andrew Jones is a scientist when it come to speaker designs and builds...

Calvin expresses his personal views on these speaker which is great as not everyone has the same hearing. I have had mine since 2018 as I said before paid half of the retail price Best Buy was offering for a limited time for $150 a pair. They went fast in all stores here and I was lucky to get a pair. I love how the vocals sounds so natural and smooth and less fatigue on the ears when listening for hours. Nice highs and mids and bass not bad but when tuned in with a nice sub the sound comes alive.

Thank you I appreciate your feedback

I did fall för the hype of Triangle Borea BR03. After 100 hrs of breakin they sound really nice. A hump in the mid bass give them a slight warmth. Very nice mids and forward sounding uppers. Can be reveailing of bad recordings. Needs amp with good dampening factor in order to control the generous bass. Did not pair well with Rega Brio. Got blooted in the mid bass and lost bass control on higher volyms. I pair them with a Arcam fmj38. Triangle Borea BR03 seems to do what the amp tells them to do. Maybe thats why many reviewers recomend rather neutral amps. Like Iotavx SA3.

They definitely open up more with higher current

@@tomhamilton6377 How much current do you think would suffice?

Thanks mate that’s good to know happy New Year to you K

The Linn Majik 109 are very well regarded across hi fi forums. However at the time of writing they are £950 in the UK ,I would love a pair. The Elac Debut 6.2 are £299 The cheap audio man channel, a self confessed Elac fan rates the Debut 5.2 over them ( better balance They retail at £279 however a few main Uk dealers are selling them for £209. Much more affordable to pair with budget amps . Theres an A / B sound comparison on here between Q Acoustic 3030i & Debut . The Elac sounds much less compressed & natural to my ears 👍

Yes I mean similarly with theKEFLS 50s people tell me they need big power good amplification

once you try something better you would easily understand what he is talking about. But on a budget, it's not easy to build a whole system that can reveal the limits of the one cheap component.

Afraid not

Oh yeah I saw that episode Interesting to hear from a consumer that it worked out good . Did you remove the metal grill from the tweeter and do you remember that being a significant thing let me know if you can 😊 thanks K

Do you think it worth $350.00 for the GR Research upgrade?

@@alexfalcao $350 that’s a lot that’s the same price as the speakers yeah now I don’t know what is in the upgrade but surely you could do internal damping quite cheaply and also taking the metal cover off the tweeter .maybe Robert Pollak can enlighten us

@@stereoreviewx Yes, I will remove the tweeter grill to see how it will sound. And I'm glad I bought the Fluance SX6 (actually I have 2 pairs), best $150.00 spent, they sound really good for the price and I feel that Vintage sound on them.

Well an old one I’m literally not up on modern cheap speakers that much

@@stereoreviewx in future do u have any plan to review mordern speakers?

Oh yes I will any I can get my hands on I’ve got some lined up

Bowers and Wilkins DM fours

I had MA Silver RX-1s that did vocals really well, piano overtones really well but were too laid back, had a muddy mid bass hump and were not suitable for Rock. Some things well, some things not. But voices were nice. Triangle Color series decent with voice tone but a bit sibilant at times. AMT tweeters give a different, live sound at times but there are issues with some of those speakers as well. Most budget just don't cut it or give anything much above AV/home theater quality but a few do give you a taste of something done nice but not everything with something usually standing out in a negative way. I've tried lots to replace my large Focals 807Ws (do alot very well) under a grand$US but if I want something at least as good or better I may have to spend alot more for something in a smaller box.

Happy New Year to you and appreciate your comments cheers K

Well I know but everyone keeps saying they’re great and that will mislead people

Well I have to go to songs that are use a lot and they are take it easy by the Eagles mostly for the human voice and bass characteristics And also to high by Stevie Wonder for just multiple reasons it has a good spectrum of separation and instruments

Well multiple I think I said that in the video five different apps at least Quad elite 140 what’s name nap power amp 50 W per channel Sansui vintage amps are calm alpha

@@stereoreviewx Interesting. I have to agree. I found these speakers totally life-less and virtually un-listenable.

P.S.: Uptdated because of Paradigm

Yes well one thing I’m sure of his things can measure really great and sound really not good I don’t think you can measure good sounding qualities

Generally speaking I agree with what you’re getting out for sure personally I can’t stand Tony in accuracies

Compare the feelings you get in a live venue (specially aucustic) and compare what feelings your soundsystem are able to produce. Frontal loob is more often than not, in the way of Enjoying Art, in most forms.

Yes well certainly I’ve heard a couple of castles can’t remember which ones but they were good and my overall impression is they are well engineered things. And I don’t think they go for too much money certainly not here in the UK which is good. Watch out for any ones with foam surrounds though you know the phone rots but if there are rubber surrounds then you should be ok. Curiously and after getting some castle speakers myself they seem a little bit of a bargain cheers K

@@stereoreviewx Thanks for the quick response! Yes, that's The same what they say here about the Castle speakers. You are right, foam is always a problem. The Castles Trent 2 I wanted to test (buy) have rubber. Have a great time with music!

congrats n share your opinion later 👍

@@roquesoprano913 Right out of the box it sounds flat comparing to to the $150.00 SX6 Fluance. And It lacks that hi upper frequency. The fluance I need to set the treble on -6 on the Sansui AU-5500 the Elac I needed to set at +6 to get a more or less the same result. Bu it still braking in, I heard reviewers that said it needs around 20 hours to break in, so far it still on 2 hours of playing, let’s see.

@Stonnie Mikita Yes, the Fluance SX6 tweeters are very clear.

Nice to hear your honest opinion Kevin . Cheers K

Those are quite special, especially the third series, which I believe came out after 1990. Not the ones with the two front ports which were completely different from the classic HB1s.

They were my 1st speaker back in the 80's ... wish i still had them ... BTW Wilmslow Audio make a modern equivalent , look them up .

No it’s a free world and we have freedom of speech so I’m definitely not apologising but if you like the speakers maybe they were good in your house absolutely fair enough beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Cheers K

@@stereoreviewx I know this was a year ago now, but was giving this some thought after watching the video, and I wonder if a speaker like this needs a modern amplifier with quite high damping, this should stop the driver cone overshooting as the amplifier would exert much more control on the cone and which should clean up the base and stop it blurring. I do wonder (although I don't know for sure either) if sometimes a good Vintage speaker sounds rubbish on a modern Amp because of the damping factor, and also the other way around, a new speaker with perhaps a heaver cone, sounds dull on a vintage amp with little or no damping. Also some modern speakers like the Elac needs a fair bit of juice to make them sing, where as a lot of vintage speakers sing with quite modest requirements. One thing for sure though absolutely agree that vintage is built better, and probably with a lot more care. Love the Channel and I have learnt an awful lot, and looking forward to hopefully get myself some pre-loved vintage bargains.

It would help to know what equipment you are driving them with? people say it needs a better amp?

I think you might mean the ones that richer sounds sold after the real company Gail went bankrupt I don’t know them but I can only guess and I would guess not good PS it’s a guess cheers K

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I mean those. I was quite impressed when I heard those little monitors 3010 Series 30 I guess. But it was long time ago, perhaps they are just nothing extraordinary.

I just love when the base is stiff and rigid and kind of woody in spite of they are not so low and exact or perfect. That is how these Gales perform. Very rich midrange, poorer details, but that rigid base and superb midrange just do it. I hate boomy, airy base, and prefer closed, non ported cabinets.

Fairpoint Daniel do you know what you like that’s a big plus