Have you noticed how on top of the stranded graveyard, there appears to be a statue of Mohg carrying Miquella?

Umibozu could also refer to a scrapped godwyn boss fight as he resembles a sea monster in some regard. It may explain why it is removed so as to not reveal much of the dlc. If not it’s probably a servant of godwyn or something similar, what with his nautical themes

@@RobleViejo I led with the fact they had no remaining assets, so I didn't think it was necessary.

Great to have you back Zullie, we've all missed you and your work😃

It's crazy to think that there's barely a limit to how huge something like that could be. It could be five times as large as your mockups, and it would still work from a gameplay perspective. This mountainous creature, barely making any sound as it slowly swings its hand down to swat you.

In my head I imagined it as a way to stop the player from leaving the map. Like how GTA5 has sharks and Subnautica has Ghost Leviathans. Of course this would mean that the player would have had to be able to swim somehow.

@@Noctislolig thats another idea that i had, maybe if whenever you walked off of those underwater cliffs that kill you a pitch black hand grabs you and pulls you down, just a thought, not sure how practical it would be but it looks cool in my head.

​@@NoctisloligWAIT SUBNAUTICA HAS A MAP BORDER?

@@joaoborgesrodriguesalves6554ah, a new person soon to be traumatized by what lies around what they already didn’t know

​@@joaoborgesrodriguesalves6554it does and its horrifying

Oh my dear sweet Christ that would be terrifying If it’s not in the DLC I’m rioting

@@aztecserpent5525 it will not be in DLC :)

I loved that on repeat playthroughs, you can notice Midir hiding behind the floating building from afar if you used a binocular. And then he would fly down to the cliff once you crossed the bridge.

whats this from?

@@darkdruidsvale Dark Souls 3 DLC.

Can you imagine, triggering an event flag somewhere deep in the files, and then when you happen to look out into the ocean, all you see is that humanoid head staring at you - and if you look directly at it, it disappears... so out of the corner of your eye, as long as that water is in-view and rendered, it follows you and just stares.

The eyes in the thumbnail gives me Terraformars vibes.

THAT FISH. That thing scared me as a kid 😂

if you shoot the water in the lake of resident evil 4 before the lake boss, itll come out of the water and insta kill you/jumpscare lmao

Spore did that for me. I tried to swim out into the ocean once and decided to never do that again

​@@hobabo9703My fear of water in games also came from Spore

There was also that giant squid in an Assassin’s Creed game I believe.

Eh not for me. However the loch ness monster that got scrapped in RDR2 and model used in GTA 5 Cayo is more terrifying to me. Seeing the model up close is like seeing the monster under your bed.

"Hi my name is Umibozu, I'm here to talk about your Torrent Insurance"

"regular man" Yeah lets ignore that the thing looks like it just crawled out of *the darkest corner of hell.*

I like it a lot! Even if it was just sitting somewhere staring, not doing anything. In Bloodborne, the watchful presence of the amygdalas, and the two which are capable of grabbing you, are the best example of this kind of entity in a souls game imo. And it’s so cool that they are only visible under certain conditions.

At least it isn't emerging from behind a giant wall

Yeah! Like, just off the shore. Doesn't inteeract or attack, is just there. Spooky!

Telling you '"You can fight this boss later" is one thing. Making it mechanically impossible to reach, and just having them stare at you menacingly, though... "Don't even try to reach that guy, for your own good." Like the Rune Bear from the network test

It would also work from perspective of mythology accurate umibozu since they only attack if you speak to them (they take every word directed at them as offensive even hello)

Anyone is welcome. Nobody can leave

Honestly I kinda wish there where more passive weird NPCs like that. Like the dragon in DS1 or the bug friend in DS2. Just some weird, unique... thing, minding it's own business.

A take I saw recently is that it's a vertical relation - It's "the lands between" Nox underground and Farum Azula in the sky.

It could be the lands between life and death. We know that the residents of the lands between are in a state of life, death and rebirth, due to the rune of death being removed from the Elden Ring. When the residents die, they don't actually really die, their souls just go to the Erdtree to await their rebirth. It seems to be sort of a state of purgatory. In christianity, purgatory is also the state between death and heaven, and going to heaven could be interpreted as being a rebirth in a sense. Although, during our adventures in the lands between, we see death constantly spreading from Godwyn's corpse, so the name is probably just a remnant of Marikas golden kingdom. As for the other lands, we don't actually know whether they are affected by the shattering like you mention, but i'm more interested in if whether or not they are affected by the Erdtrees cycle of rebirth. We don't really know if people die outside of the Lands Between, we do know however, that the Tarnished only begin to resurrect after being granted grace again, notably our own character. Due to this, we can probably assume that the residents of other places aren't affected by the Erdtree or the Elden Ring, which would mean that other gods could be affecting the other landmasses outside of the lands between in other ways.

@@FrederikSeerupNielsenthere is no purgatory in Christianity

@@juegosofgaming1215 Yes there is. The roman-catholic Church during the late middle ages promised ones sins could be lessened while they were in purgatory if they bought letters of indulgence from the church. This was one of the major factors leading to Martin Luther’s protestant reform.

Dantes Inferno moment​@@juegosofgaming1215

I thought two Dark Souls bosses were from the ocean. The hydra, and Seathe the Scaleless.

Japan lore be scary

Interesting that the body of water encircling the Lands Between is referred to as "The Sea of Fog" or the Tarnished travelled "across the fog". Given the context that Umibozu form out of thunderclouds, it could be possible that monsters form out of the fog. Hence why the journey is heralded as treacherous. I have always found the lack of ports in the Lands Between odd, especially considering the shipwrecks. Another point of interest lies in Elphael, with many guards keeping watch on the sea. Or all the damage on the sea facing walls of Stormveil Castle. Most of this has little to no explaination. It generates questions as to what exactly the Lands Between is/are, and what this sea of fog contains.

Damn, I can't believe shinto myth has a reference to Ultrakill

​@@sleep_enjoyer13i think the shipwrecks might have been non tarnished warriors who tried to go to da LB and become elden lord. But unlike them the tarnished could just respawn and washup on shore if they got shipwrecked

A pitch-black giant made of thunderclouds brings to mind Darkbeast Paarl or the Abhorrent Beast. That'd be a pretty cool sight

That would be so DISTURBING just watching his dead eyes stare back at you as his corpse floats through the sea.

Good point. Especially since he is part merman.

The figure on the map at 1:19 does have striking similarities to Godwyn's corpse as found in game. This would have been terrifying.

the beast on the map shown at 1:16 looks incredibly similar to how Godwyn's body ended up looking, which definitely lends credence to that theory

oh that would have been cool, and also make sense since we already fight demigods in the game.

Like that boss fight on the way to the tower right next to the concentrated snowfield. bro when everything went dark I was EXPECTING somebody that big was coming out, I didn't open my eyes until I was already dead

@@AManWithAVoiceI had been having trouble with corrupted data I thought my game messed up wheat blacked out.I got it fixed though.

@@AManWithAVoice oh my god, same! I thought for sure it was giant monster time... And the patroling guard suddenly being a corpse with an item drop, so unsettling!

@@metalheadparkey FR!!!!!

Good catch, I'm always forgetting to check the matbins.

I feel like this kind of suggests a boss version of the weird octopus monsters you fight around the map in wet areas. Like maybe you would enter a cave that is filled with them and then at the end you fight a much larger and more detailed version of the normal big ones. It would also explain why it is amongst some of the less important bosses, just being an upgraded version of a preexisting normal enemy.

​@@InsertJack also all the boats you can see kinda points towards a sea monster kind of boss it could be close to a kraken of some sorts

I’ve been hoping that the dlc has something to do with the ocean. Fingers crossed.

@@Toxin_E-07 As long as i stay out of the ocean itself im good. Huge eldritch monsters and the ocean are two things you do not mix together, ever. Under any circumstances.

no

Scary things in this game? Like the doggos? lol

​@@masa5300not bloodborne creepy sure but I've genuinely been jumpscared a few times by the beastmen of Farum Azula and one exceedingly bad jumpscare from a black dumpling in Volcano Manor.

There’s a lot of scary things in this tbh I agree, they brought back the basilisks and those things jump out of the rot lake and scare you, The dragons may not appear scary and strong at first but as you continue to progress through the game those bastards hit harder than a truck coming at you full force, the sea creatures overall are just uncomfortable to fight, except the jellyfish’s, they’re cute, then those dark spirits that live in the catacombs with the scythe lookin weapons that make weird insect noises can be spooky, Godwyns face and entire body is scary at first, when I made it to his body I thought he was gonna fall down or leap at me and it was finna be a boss fight till I saw fia there and I saw Rogier getting death blight in stormveil castle by godwyns face, underrated one is Castle mourne with those dog humanoid beasts and them hanging around this fire with someone h4nging on a n**se, what’s even crazier is the fact that this game is inspired by the anime Berserk and berserk is pretty messed up so this game is already set on crazy

It's called the uncanny valley look it up

Ahahah. And I guarantee you - its not

​@@0DanteMayCry0We'll see. This game is still likely to get another 1 or 2 DLCs.

@@EdgyDabs47more like unlikely

I remember seeing a skeleton wearing a crown on the shore, I wondered how a royal found themselves like that

Its not kings field ost anymore, its zullie ost now xD

That's King's Field music? It sounds very Zelda like

@@yourdad5799 Zullie uses the zelda ost too, that's probably why you thought that :D

hee ho

Same, they introduced me to "Dark Reality" from Kingsfield. Still my fav track

Oh don't worry there's alot of terrifying folklore from Japan

Yes, scary black man.

:o@@vandagylon2885

​@@vandagylon2885can it be technically considered "black" or just devoid of color? Like a black hole how it just absorbs light, the Umibozu is just a giant man with only it's eyes appearing 3D while the rest of the body seems to fold in on itself and make the background appear to be in front of it, if that makes sense

Fr I would shi my pants if I saw this thing just staring at me from the ocean, especially if it only spawned at night

That's a fun observation!

Good thing that folklore isn't real because how the fuck am I getting a bottomless barrel 😂

​@@hylianroCut the bottom out of a barrel

@@hylianro💀 smol brain

​@@hylianroHave you tried removing the bottom part of the barrel?

From likes to mess around with ideas as they make the game, these are probably ideas that havent been fully realized

That model doesn’t exist, it’s something Zulie put in for the sake of the video (and I guess clickbait). The video is about the unused code with that name.

@@TRSRM jebaited again :( the giant human shadowy model is cool though

I would've loved a second try on the Old Iron King boss fight. I really feel that if it had been a bit more similar to the DS1 hydra fights then it would've been much better.

Imagine it was Godwyn

We got old iron king. He kind of is "big thing approaching from sea" except the sea is molten iron/lava instead of water

Holy crap I almost forgot about that

Shadow of erdtree has so many potential bro istg if they fumbled

That's where my mind first went, too. There's even a wrecked shipped waaaay out at sea. The ship seems fairly well modeled from what you can see at the shore.

i think our body is put in the chapel along with many other tarnished whose bodies were recovered, tho it still doesn't make sense how we're put there

That’s exactly what I thought while watching the video! I’ve been replaying the game with mods recently and I passed by that again and it feels so strange to be there with not much else. The moment they showed the Umibozu next to the ships all I could think about was it emerging from the water and coming to the shoreline

@@Dageekandnoob Yeah, that stretch of coast always felt really foreboding, like there just HAD to be something huge and terrifying there.

I got quite the opposite feeling. I mean yeah, something could have been placed there. But the zombie people aren't there because of that something, they are there because it's the furthest possible location from the Erdtree and they are trying to escape the Lands Between. It's a mass of hopeless people destroyed by the current condition of the Lands Between, wailing at the sea waiting for something to happen

@@Hyperversum3 I do like that theory! I do also wonder if perhaps they are from the broken ships, as they are supposed to be reanimated corpses. Perhaps then that could link both? The umibozu or whatever else destroying the vessels that could possibly be their escape, and their bodies washing ashore, forever fated to be trapped with no hope of escape, even in death.

This also went through my head when watching this video. Especially early in game I often wondered what was up with all these shipwrecks and wether there'd be a way to get to them at some point. I also rather distinctly remember one bigger coastline with a whole lot of these "zombie" dudes that barely attack and slowly walked towards the ocean. Felt really eerie going through there. But in the end it was pretty disappointing that this was nothing but small "enivronmental oddities".

Somewhat on topic, isn't there a bunch of ships wrecked off the coast of Radahn's arena? I remember wondering what was up with them.

@@Populon993 the ocean and flowing water are the border of the spirit realm. Every fight dealing with spirits/immoral essence is done on water. The Tibia Mariners, Rennala, the Jellyfish spirit ashes, etc. You can also see a lot of spiritual activity around Ice. Flowing water acts as a purifying balm for rot and poison as well.

maybe they are supposed to be all the ships carrying player character Tarnished to the Lands Between.

If ur theory is true they could have Made a side quest to get in a ship and get pulled down into a boss fight

lmao

that's called being a lore addict though

The story structure is designed around this: 'frame stories' are like fallen leaves, and the fallen leaves tell a story...

@@user-qv5sm5dw1vyeh, in my opinion I’m not a fan

FromSoft just be like: Give us time. That "what if" will be brought to life one day

Pretty much all Fromsoft games have a lot of cut content or stuff that's changed drastically from the original concept. I think Bloodborne and Sekiro had less headlines over cut stuff, but with BB there's everything related to the Chalice Dungeons. Demon Souls had some levels in the Nexus scrapped. Dark Souls 1 had different roles tied to some NPCs. Oscar would have been your rival that chose the opposing faction tied to your ending. He served Frampt if you sided with Kaathe and vice-verca. Andre was originally evisioned as Gwyn's long lost son. Dark Souls 2's development is a whole mess of a story. Dark Souls 3 had a very different plot in the beginning, and tried some ideas that would later be scrapped before being implemented later in Sekiro and Elden Ring (stealth, horse enemies, day/night cycle, etc.). Some bosses were also scrapped from the base game and reworked in the DLC like the Demon Prince (probably why that fight turned out so good). All studios leave some stuff on the cutting room floor, but it's always something to think about.

"What if" Fromsoftware releases DLC to answer your questions*

All games have cut content but in most games it's just "it was a new character that didn't pan out" or a cool boss idea, levels and such. But with games with mystery lore details like fromsoft and it's relatives these invoke more mistery. And with their record of bringing back unused concepts we never know when these things may come back, even on a different game.

yep, and that makes all the "out of bounds" or concepts in their books/codes so intersting, mainly in ds1, demons and dragons dogma

that’s exactly what came to mind for me, maybe the mariner summons were supposed to be a standalone boss, before they were scrapped of course. it’s the closest thing in game to the theory

Funnily enough,the giant half skeleton is based on another yokai ,the Gashadokuro.

I hope they make a really REALLY disturbing game someday, like a Bloodborne 2.0 with more horror. Or at least let the SOTE DLC be like this.

It really fits with games that don't have an overtly scary tone, just one or two things that don't quite fit become a lot scarier and I'm for it Also ready to relive the PTSD Jak and Daxter gave me every time I'd try to skip to the cannon on top of that tower on the beach as a kid

Pirate Souls soon Age of The Deep from Aldrich’s premonitions wait on it man.

​@@zarteenelden ring does have a grimmy dark fantasy vibe though

@@paralam2175 I want to see their takes on a soulslike game where the setting is their take on a neo future dystopia. Fromsofts worlds are usually pretty dressing and bleak anyways, I wanna know how disturbing they could get if they ramped up a lot of the common themes of sci fi future dystopias like a dying world, mass consumerism, late stage capitalism, climate damage, body modification, and other themes and just crank some or all of them up to a horrible, scary, depressing 11. You know how everybody was hyped about the body mods in Cyberpunk 2077 before the game came out? You just KNOW Fromsoft would have a field day pushing the limits of imaging futuristic cyborgs by giving us enemies and bosses that have multiple limbs, or transform into giant centipede monsters with 30 legs and 8 arms all holding gunsabers and a split open face that turns from human to a predator-esque gnashing mandibles or something crazy in a gruesome looking Cronenberg-meets-Transformers transformation.

You can't swim in Elden Ring

I wonder if Elden Ring tried to implement swimming at some point during its development. Sekiro figured it out.

@@leithaziz2716imagine swimming in Havel’s gear

@@SaladDongs True, but maybe they wanted to try something other than "fall off a ledge and die"

​@@Scatmanseth Imagine swimming in Hoslow attire I'm not saying you can't. I'm saying the fabric will stain and look really ugly afterwards.

legit thought that something horrible was going to rise out of the water after that boss fight and offer me a covenant with it lmao

That might be my favorite spot in the whole game because it feels so secluded. Like after you beat that boss and just look out into the water, you feel like you're in the middle of nowhere. It's cool

great that there are people who also felt that this place had a specific charm. the grey color of the sea and sky, the rain, the wind and all that empty water

@@tannerpickleI hope the DLC gets some more ocean-esque vibes. After all, water and death go together in this games, both gameplay wise and lore wise.

@@ValentinoMarino11 that would be cool. Man I'm mainly just excited to see what new weapons/weapon types we get in the DLC.

it's pretty much the only mythical monster depiction that actually scares me

you should play nioh 1

Curiously enough, that's a scenario which has always terrified me, like, I have nightmares about it every now and then or just the thought of it makes me uneasy. Yet, a bunch of other stuff (say, seeing blood or getting on a plane) won't even bother me. It's not a phobia, but I guess it's as close as it gets to one 😅😅😅

​@@jhasuatapia2962I think it's because of how uncanny Umibozu usually is depicted, a simple black giant humanoid creature emerging from water

Fromsoft really likes to bring up the sea, huh. Ash Lake, the Fishing Hamlet in Bloodborne, the concept of the Deep in DS3, the large lake in Fountainhead Palace in Sekiro, etc.

​@@leithaziz2716They take heavy inspiration from Shinto, and an important part of Shinto is the concept of kegare, or something being unclean or defiled. An example of something kegare is stagnant water, as it's a breeding ground for disease, parasites, insects, and is just generally unclean, as opposed to flowing water, which tends to filter itself and is generally clean unless something else is affecting it. Fun fact: in DS1 when Solaire talks about time being convoluted, a more accurate translation is that time has become/is becoming stagnant. This suggests that the flow of time has slowed down/stopped due to the prolonging of the Age of Fire, and that Lordran has essentially become a "pool" of stagnant time. I think it's possible that the Undead Curse was a byproduct of this, similar to diseases that fester in pools of still water, the curse was a disease that festered in a pool of still time, but (minor spoilers) with The Ringed City it seems like it was a much more intentional curse than that. A more clear example is The Deep in DS3. It's described as both water and Humanity, and is a stagnant pool of humanity dregs, which produces numerous carnivorous insect-like creatures. Centipedes are another good example, as they're considered kegare as well and show up in BB (the vermin The League hunt are centipedes) and Sekiro as corrupting agents. There are also the centipede demons of DS1, which are likely meant to represent the corruption of Izalith. There's probably more I could go into but if you're really interested I'd recommend looking up something like "dark souls and shinto." I can't think of any channels in particular that go over it, though maybe Last Protagonist does. I know he goes over a lot of "lost in translation" stuff which should include some stuff like Solaire's dialogue. TL;DR: There's a lot of water and other stuff across the games for reasons

@@PunkZombie1300 Is that why Miyazaki keeps adding swamp levels into all his games?

There were those rumors of a nautical, deep-ocean Souls game by From that emerged months ago. It was supposed to be set in Aldrich's Age of the Deep, and the concept was SO awesome. I'm pretty sure it was fake but it's still a great read, whoever came up with that had a golden idea.

I so very much want this concept to materialise as a game...and please, oh please may there be an abundance of merfolk! Merfolk are severely underutilised in fantasy games :(

Hey no need for the but there :)

That actually sounds really feasible!

People still don't trust chests despite there being no mimics in this game

@@misery1500 No mimics, but the transporter trap in lake agheel is scarring enough

@@misery1500 There is a chest that takes you to the middle of Caelid despite being near the start of the game, another that puts you deep in a mine with rot bugs everywhere. There is ample reason to not trust chests.

That'd be a heck of a surprise for a player trying to see if they could swim for the first time lol

That'd make sense for them to do, considering Elden Ring is takes a lot from DS2

Yeah, I also immediately thought of umibozu from nioh, especially from nioh 2, because that version had more humanoid features, like face and more humanoid-looking form when he fights you on the platform

Sounds like a Shadow of the Colossus encounter.

There is a common phenomena across all cultures of a "call of the void" in which people have the urge to walk into the sea and die. It's very possible that with Marika's removal of normal death, those "zombies" are hearing that call and doing their best to truly die. Combine that with the fact that bodies of water are associated with spirit and the border between life and death and things start to really vibe - Hell it makes Godwyn's slow decent into an aquatic form make more sense, he's the prince of death who lives on, he's stuck in that border realm of the ocean of spirit. If you subscribe to the idea that Marika pulled death through into the world of the living to make them one (evidenced by those who Live in Death) and you could see why she would be so distraught and regretful upon the incomplete death of Godwyn - she was partly at fault for his suspended state of life within death.

Umibozo is a good one.

@@junichiroyamashita its Bozo the Clown's cousin

My roommate and I are 29 hours into a region-locked playthrough and just finished all of Weeping Peninsula last night, and it's crazy how few unique items are at that exact location when you use an interactive map. That entire southwestern portion is incredibly barren, in fact, so a unique boss fight and drop would have helped give it some replay value

Yeah I've always thought there was supposed to be more here too. Exactly what came to mind for me!

What do you mean by that?

@@rangedpluto1367 It’s been a long time theory that the planet Pikmin takes place on (post-apocalyptic Earth) is actually haunted/cursed by an Umibozu which is why everytime someone tries to land on the planet or pass it the ship either malfunctions or hits an asteroid causing it to crash into the planet leaving the pilots stranded.

@@thewealthypikachu1585 I was not aware of that theory. Thanks for a informing me.

Thanks, any time these NPCs turn up where there's only a tiny bit of text for them, I get wistful hoping they'll get finished later. It took a while but we got a few bosses like that from Dark Souls III in Elden Ring.