Elden Ring's Story Makes NO SENSE

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Andrew Klavan

Andrew Klavan

2 жыл бұрын

Elden Ring's Story Makes NO SENSE
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@justsomerando6551
@justsomerando6551 2 жыл бұрын
He thought he could get the story with out reading 12 hours of texts of 400 items. First fromsoft game huh?
@miscllaneus
@miscllaneus 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't get the story with all of that
@guri7616
@guri7616 2 жыл бұрын
@@miscllaneus it's requires alot of time and you need to go though every fucking npc and text and item and then join them
@dean4209
@dean4209 Жыл бұрын
You seriously can’t assume the game lore doesn’t make sense just cause you played paper Tetris in 1849
@hollowkiller1011
@hollowkiller1011 Жыл бұрын
If you have to do that to understand the story then they fucking failed at making a story most people don’t got time for that so if the developers are like “oh let’s put the story ina bunch of little items that you have to find they’ll love it” making most people who play have almost no clue at what’s going on THATS a fucking fail and if the developers like the 1% players over the 99% so much that only the 1% and people who go on KZfaq know they story then that’s a shitty gaming company in my book
@miscllaneus
@miscllaneus Жыл бұрын
@@hollowkiller1011 the billion diffrence items that tell the story are there for people who want to know the story and lore, and to feel good that they were able to piece everything together and for the "people dont the time" argument well thank fucking God that there's probably a fan wiki that tells you the locations and what the item is and what it says. If want the story outright without having to go through "all the trouble of figuring it out" then just look it up, its not that you can spend an hour or 2 of your day to look it up if you really want to know.
@-Ryu
@-Ryu 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I can only imagine what Andrew would say About The Metal Gear Storyline.
@freedomfighter271
@freedomfighter271 2 жыл бұрын
I WOULD PAY MONEY TO SEE THAT! My favorite series of all time.
@freedomfighter271
@freedomfighter271 2 жыл бұрын
@Fauci Epstein Island "we have a sequel to the original, a prequel to the original, a sequel to the prequel, a prequel to the prequel, and a sequel to the young link of the prequel's prequel!"
@oldmangreywolf6892
@oldmangreywolf6892 2 жыл бұрын
@Fauci Epstein Island I like Final Fantacy better then Zelda. Atleast you start with fresh new characters in each game. In Zelda, Link just keeps loosing his masculinity for each new game. And all his equipment too.
@gamingcentral4730
@gamingcentral4730 2 жыл бұрын
Metal gear has a story, and comes together nicely,you just have to pay tones of attention
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 2 жыл бұрын
@@oldmangreywolf6892 uh he’s been the same in all of his germs minus the equipment
@chaseboyo7302
@chaseboyo7302 2 жыл бұрын
It’s hard for me to focus on the story when all my focus is on surviving
@SiggyMX
@SiggyMX Жыл бұрын
Lol
@cerebralwolf666
@cerebralwolf666 Жыл бұрын
Just get gud? 💀
@SirrCartier
@SirrCartier Жыл бұрын
@@cerebralwolf666 r/whoosh
@6ixlxrd
@6ixlxrd Жыл бұрын
@@SirrCartier I mean sure his comment was unnecessary, but no joke was made.
@pressstart8738
@pressstart8738 Жыл бұрын
Same with me dude.. forget all about story just focus to slay enemies😂
@ap6480
@ap6480 2 жыл бұрын
My man watches the introduction and expects to know the whole goddamn book
@StallionFernando
@StallionFernando Жыл бұрын
It's not a book.
@ap6480
@ap6480 Жыл бұрын
@@StallionFernando 🗿
@trentcallahan8461
@trentcallahan8461 Жыл бұрын
@@StallionFernando 🗿
@6ixlxrd
@6ixlxrd Жыл бұрын
@@StallionFernando 🗿
@korpen2858
@korpen2858 Жыл бұрын
@@StallionFernando 🗿
@gamefan7321
@gamefan7321 Жыл бұрын
This man would have a stroke if introduced to kingdom hearts.
@aa-tx7th
@aa-tx7th Жыл бұрын
at least KH tries to make sense fromsoft just says "throw in all the cool and weord bullsh!t we came up with and just let the sweaty neckbeards write the story for us." nomura for KH simply snorted a gallon of lsd and just said, "f!%k it, my fans probably are already seeing therapists anyway, whats another few complexes?"
@gamefan7321
@gamefan7321 Жыл бұрын
@@aa-tx7th ain't that the truth everything got super complicated after birth by sleep.
@ReaperOfRock
@ReaperOfRock 11 ай бұрын
@@aa-tx7thHow do FromSoft’s narratives not make sense? I mean, yeah you have to actively search for that information rather than being subjected to 10-15 minute cutscenes, but that doesn’t mean it is nonsensical, or even hard to understand for that matter.
@sadhinn
@sadhinn 10 ай бұрын
​@@gamefan7321ddd was where the story became wack, bbs was pretty straight forward imo
@jayg.2066
@jayg.2066 8 ай бұрын
@@ReaperOfRock They don’t make sense unless you actually look for the story. And even then it doesn’t make sense until you read articles or watch videos online that put it all together. Beyond “Become the Elden Lord” and “Take Melina to die at the Elden Tree”, not 1 of my friends that have beat Elden Ring or got more than halfway through the game know the story lol. Its extremely obscure but it works for this type of game
@w0rmc0re
@w0rmc0re 4 ай бұрын
what the fuck does walter white know about elden ring
@oloxhossono1956
@oloxhossono1956 Ай бұрын
relax 😭
@thinfishdk
@thinfishdk Ай бұрын
100th like
@w0rmc0re
@w0rmc0re Ай бұрын
@@thinfishdk muah
@Noplayster13
@Noplayster13 Ай бұрын
@@ImAmirusDude literally admitted he had no idea what was going on. ImAmirus: “Stop pretending you know everything, Idiot!!1!?”
@Noplayster13
@Noplayster13 Ай бұрын
@@ImAmirus I’m sorry. Could you actually spell out what you’re trying to say here? Because everything you’ve said has been a non sequitur. How can a man who admits he doesn’t know something believe that he knows everything? Your assertions make no sense. Do *you* even know what you’re trying to say?
@Big-Papa-Smurf
@Big-Papa-Smurf Жыл бұрын
Ironically, I think Elden Ring is the only FromSoft game with a comprehensible story told through the actual narrative, as opposed to the fucking items.
@Itamar536.
@Itamar536. Жыл бұрын
Sekiro actually is their only game with linear narrative, except some explanations and background to be read and found the sekiro story is so straightforward that no matter how you play you get the general gist of the world and characters
@arisumego
@arisumego Жыл бұрын
completely disingenuous. demon souls and sekiro are most definitely not at all like this, the story is told in a straightforward manner with lore that flavors and fleshes out the world in descriptions. dark souls and bloodborne, while having more minimalistic narratives, definitely did not relegate most of the story to fucking item descriptions. you do not need to read a single item description in DeS, DaS, Bloodborne or Sekiro to know what's going on in their narratives. NOT ONE. elden ring is a step down from every previous fromsoft game in every regard, story especially
@Big-Papa-Smurf
@Big-Papa-Smurf Жыл бұрын
@@arisumego The item descriptions were just a small jab I threw at the end there, but I still stand by my primary criticism. I know that I speak for most people when I say that most of these story narratives are so poorly executed that they end up being entirely forgettable. Most of that is attributed to their minimalist approach to world-building, without any substantive character narratives to compensate.
@HeisenbergTrazyn
@HeisenbergTrazyn Жыл бұрын
@@arisumego I think it's not about the "downgrade" that ur talking about... But Fromsoftware is bringing some "taste" on their in game lores... "This is like this and that is like that"
@DJWeapon8
@DJWeapon8 Жыл бұрын
​@@Itamar536. I use the metric of: "If it can be turned into a good 2 hour movie, it has a decent story." for FromSoft games. So far, Sekiro is the only one that has a decent story. Because it'd make for a great action blockbuster. A shinobi rescues his young lord who is cursed and helps him destroy the curse to prevent it from being weaponized.
@wut7640
@wut7640 2 жыл бұрын
And this is how adults get terrible preconceptions about video games
@nicford1486
@nicford1486 8 ай бұрын
Andrew Klavan loves video games. I think bad preconceptions come from not even trying them
@alexread6767
@alexread6767 5 ай бұрын
... I mean. Have you read the lore? It's nonsense Edit: I keep replying with questions about the lore, like why there are so many fire sources from different outer gods, or why the guilty sorcerers and dead giants have the same thorns on them, or why the Ancestral Followers, Numen, Mohgwyn, Hawk Soldiers, and Claymen are all in Siofra River, and my replies keep getting deleted. And that's really funny to me
@gtmo55mack20
@gtmo55mack20 5 ай бұрын
So you are saying you aren’t an adult got it.
@sylphiafox
@sylphiafox 5 ай бұрын
@@alexread6767 I have. And everything makes perfect sense.
@alexread6767
@alexread6767 5 ай бұрын
@@sylphiafox @sylphiafox The Outer God "the Fell God" is responsible for the Giants and Fire Monks' fire magic spells. Many of the Blood Star worshippers live with the Fire Monks and have the same punishing thorns as the now petrified Giants who died in the war. Apparently, being blinded like this makes the Blood Star visible. Mohg draws from the Formless Mother - however, his ingrown horns blind him in one eye. It's entirely possible that the Formless Mother, Blood Star, and Fell God are one and the same, and being blind in one eye is enough to see them - after all, the Fell God IS one-eyed, and it would explain why Bloodflame takes the form of fire, the same thorns on Giants and Guilty Sorcerers, and why Guilty Sorcerers are always found with Fire Monks. The Flame of Frenzy comes from its own source, whichever Outer God spurs the Three Fingers. The Fires of Slumber come from Miquella or Miquella's Outer God. Ghostflame has existed since long before the Erdtree, as has the Crucible, a key aspect of which is Fire Breath, as seen in the Ancient Dragons and Crucible Knights. It seems to be pure coincidence that the Elden Beast, Ulcerated Tree Spirits, and Putrid Spirits have "fire breath" and "firey explosions" that are now tinged with gold / rot, and that the dark red Blade of Death attacks leave behind a sort of flaming effect on the target's body. Black Flame seems to be a direct corruption of Fell God flame. It's not powered up by the Giant's Seal, though, but it's clear that at some point, it was the same magic the Fire Monks use, as some of the Fire Monks became the Blackflame Monks. And finally, some sort of Outer Serpent God is responsible for the fire of Mt. Gelmir, and presumably, its Volcanic Stone. With that said! There are STILL some fires we have not explained the sources of. Flame Sling, Catch Flame, and Fire's Deadly Sin have no sigil and are not improved by the Giant's Seal. Deadly Sin can be explained by Immolation being unaffected by buffs in prior games, but not the other two. The phrase "flame of ruin is anathema to the Erdtree" and the mention of banishment is not enough to define them as Fell God's flame, as Spark Aromatic has no logical connection to the Fell God and was ALSO prohibited by those on the Erdtree's side. But it's not a stretch to assume all of those spells still come from the Fell God. So here is your simple lore based question! Does the Fire damage from Spark Aromatic, Perfumer's Bolts, Smoldering Butterflies, generic Torches, Torchpoles, combusting Oil, exploding Ballista shots, exploding Scarabs, Explosive Stone, and Redmane Techniques come from an Outer God? Does it come from the Crucible? Or, are non-magical sources of fire just naturally occurring instances of heat doing its thing? If that's so, does that mean Redmane Flame is not magical, and attacks like Flaming Strike involve "spraying fire" from the hand when it's really just throwing forth some flammable material?
@pu-FP
@pu-FP Жыл бұрын
He'd have a meltdown if he had to understand all of the cod zombies lore
@Ahcoolman
@Ahcoolman Жыл бұрын
🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
@vantagepoint3563
@vantagepoint3563 Жыл бұрын
cod zombies lore is very direct
@grantcoolguy
@grantcoolguy Жыл бұрын
Elden ring lord is way more complex and convoluted
@Gecko_Zen
@Gecko_Zen Жыл бұрын
@@grantcoolguynot really
@Fayrinn_09
@Fayrinn_09 Жыл бұрын
@@Gecko_Zenno one else agrees with you so objectively you are wrong
@RadagonTheRed
@RadagonTheRed Жыл бұрын
“I don’t understand the story after watching a 60 second clip therefore the story makes no sense.” 👍
@AntonBones
@AntonBones 7 ай бұрын
He pretty smart
@nikolaosboukouvalas449
@nikolaosboukouvalas449 6 ай бұрын
As opposed to the rest of us, who played the whole game and still have no idea what the story was about. Why did Marika shatter the ring? Why did the demigods go to war? Screw that! Just beat the bosses and become Elden Lord!
@dathip
@dathip 6 ай бұрын
LOL facts!! Better yet, who is the greater will, who created the god devouring serpent, how did queen marika bore omens that look NOTHING like her@@nikolaosboukouvalas449
@fuutralala4018
@fuutralala4018 6 ай бұрын
oh the guy that took over a decade to understand that his wife is not just hot but also an actual human being with her own thoughts and feelings didn’t understand elden ring after a 60 sec clip? I AM SHOOKETH
@nikolaosboukouvalas449
@nikolaosboukouvalas449 6 ай бұрын
@@fuutralala4018 Look, I like Elden Ring and I think Fromsoft has given us some amazing stories. But must we really resort to personally attacking anyone who does not unconditionally praise the game?
@therepublicofdave1498
@therepublicofdave1498 2 жыл бұрын
finally boomers and zoomers are united in their complete ineptitude and inability to understand why an art piece is artistic in its presentation
@1992jkwj
@1992jkwj Жыл бұрын
convolution=/=artistic, though it is a very fun game, i still have no fuckin clue what its about, i just go around killing shit
@houstonswisha143
@houstonswisha143 Жыл бұрын
Stop being edgy there’s old people who aren’t like this
@velraven8944
@velraven8944 Жыл бұрын
@@1992jkwj It's not convoluted, you're not paying attention. Probably because you're just going around killing shit...
@redwolf9455
@redwolf9455 Жыл бұрын
@@1992jkwj Yeah I mean I just watch the lore hunting videos online. They made the game perfect in the sense that you could not give a fuck about the story and play. But also, if you do care at all, you can go find the story.
@1992jkwj
@1992jkwj Жыл бұрын
@@redwolf9455 same, the only reason i know anything about the games lore are because of those vids
@Dan-el3cv
@Dan-el3cv Жыл бұрын
This video is even funnier when you realise Klavan is an aggressively mediocre writer, a poor political commentator and about as stimulating to watch as drinking nail polish remover
@user-kq3by1gc5n
@user-kq3by1gc5n Жыл бұрын
Nobody agrees with you. Odd.
@hi-mf5yx
@hi-mf5yx Жыл бұрын
​@@user-kq3by1gc5n how do you know that?
@kryatin
@kryatin Жыл бұрын
@@user-kq3by1gc5nlol sure
@mmorpgkitty
@mmorpgkitty 11 ай бұрын
@@user-kq3by1gc5n ratio'd
@bilaljanjua9903
@bilaljanjua9903 11 ай бұрын
how is that funny? people like klavan believe what ever they are saying is the truth of the universe. It is baffling not funny
@ScytheJackal
@ScytheJackal 2 жыл бұрын
“Someone kidnapped Princess Peach” 😂
@m33p0
@m33p0 2 жыл бұрын
little did Andrew know that Peach orchestrated the whole thing to gain sympathy points.... and to profit from the video game sales.
@thicclad4224
@thicclad4224 2 жыл бұрын
Some people kidnapped someone.
@hime6785
@hime6785 2 жыл бұрын
Mohg
@aryankala7858
@aryankala7858 Жыл бұрын
@@hime6785 mohg::brotherrrrerr miquella:nonononono milenaaa wake uppppppppp!!!
@KimberlyPinkney
@KimberlyPinkney 3 ай бұрын
LoL 😂which time? When it was Donkey Kong or King Koopa? Regardless, she's never in the damn castle you just busted your ass in!
@saadplays8214
@saadplays8214 2 жыл бұрын
That's the point of the soul games. They keep you in the dark about everything and let the player make theories on what happened and what's going to happen
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
They just lazy about their games and story telling
@saadplays8214
@saadplays8214 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Diaz no. They want the people to make up their own stories, the lore is given in the items bosses drop so you can learn the story from there if you want. Play the game first before calling it lazy
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@saadplays8214 no. They are actually lazy.. stop being such a fanboy
@saadplays8214
@saadplays8214 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Diaz no they're not, the lore is there you simply need to join the pieces together. Stop being such a jealous kid, also your fanboy insult doesn't work since I don't play their games, I have only watched them on KZfaq 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@saadplays8214 fanboy.
@ethandew1768
@ethandew1768 2 жыл бұрын
Why the fuck is Andrew fucking Klavan reviewing Elden Ring?!
@NearAnat
@NearAnat 3 ай бұрын
the crossover of the century
@keanenfulton4696
@keanenfulton4696 Жыл бұрын
Klavan, stop reviewing video games, this is getting sad
@tunakann7629
@tunakann7629 6 ай бұрын
I can't stand when the elderly brag about reading books then say metal gear lore is too complicated
@SomeKrieger
@SomeKrieger 6 ай бұрын
There are like 5 different solids, 5 different liquids, and 3 ocelots as far as I know
@EgoEroTergum
@EgoEroTergum 2 жыл бұрын
Figuring out the mystery of this strange world is half the fun.
@buckschneider7973
@buckschneider7973 2 жыл бұрын
Lol reading description of items and listening to boring NPCs monotone dialogue about the story is “fun”
@DurpyKraken
@DurpyKraken 2 жыл бұрын
@@buckschneider7973 monotone? That’s just bullshit
@Wulk
@Wulk 2 жыл бұрын
Nha who cares, the only thing that I know for real is that THERE WILL BE BLOOD SHET
@buggy5079
@buggy5079 2 жыл бұрын
@@buckschneider7973 play something else then, first time i am having fun in years, good for you you like hand fed stories, i and and many other dont so stop trying to change it and feel superior
@EgoEroTergum
@EgoEroTergum 2 жыл бұрын
@@buckschneider7973 I like what I like. 🤷‍♂️
@therealgooseman2358
@therealgooseman2358 2 жыл бұрын
It's not surprising that someone who works for the Daily Wire wouldn't be able to understand a story that is being directly explained to them by the opening cutscene. You can get a lot of informal from it if you just pay attention and think.
@spimbles
@spimbles Жыл бұрын
someone show this man the Fallout 1 & 2 lore. he will fucking implode
@MeMyself_andAI
@MeMyself_andAI Жыл бұрын
wasted minute of my life watching an old man talk about pong and say hes confused.
@ammaranuar2544
@ammaranuar2544 2 жыл бұрын
When a boomer tries to understand a video game lmao
@TheFi1thyCasual
@TheFi1thyCasual 2 жыл бұрын
A boomer wrote the story…
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFi1thyCasual lmaooo
@goopingwaterfallof_feces
@goopingwaterfallof_feces 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFi1thyCasual he isnt a text book boomer then
@TheFi1thyCasual
@TheFi1thyCasual 2 жыл бұрын
@@goopingwaterfallof_feces pretty sure a lot of well known authors are boomers too.. pretty text book to me
@goopingwaterfallof_feces
@goopingwaterfallof_feces 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheFi1thyCasual but none of them wrote elden ring so?
@Rh3ttD4v1s
@Rh3ttD4v1s 2 жыл бұрын
It requires immersing yourself in the story to pick up on it. The story in Fromsoftware games is often hidden in item descriptions. Fortunately there are tons of KZfaq channels that piece the story together.
@JesusProtects
@JesusProtects 2 жыл бұрын
Immerse yourself in what story? Don't confuse lore with having a story. There is no story, zero. Tarnished is revived to become Elden Lord of the lands between, what does that mean is not fully explained on any of the hundreds of item descriptions and no npc gives a clue about it. That's the main story, the side stories if we can even call them that, are something like this; some mannequin npc gives you a quest with bad lip syncing to go and get an item from an enemy, you go there, kick their ass, get the item and go back to report to the npc who gave you the mission. Not impressed with the lackluster story in the slightest. The combat is fun and there's a lot of variety there, but I'm still to meet one single person that can explain to me why the story is any good. It isn't.
@imag-nonespaghet9337
@imag-nonespaghet9337 2 жыл бұрын
@@JesusProtects the fact you think that a comment from two months ago is going to respond to your shit opinion.
@zed6740
@zed6740 2 жыл бұрын
@@JesusProtects Lol there never was a story in From Software games, it's always been up to you to come up with one yourself. The story can be good depending on how well you can interpret and piece the missing pieces together. For you, the story is probably bad because you can't fill in the gaps yourself and cant interpret what the lore means.
@Nautiliam
@Nautiliam 2 жыл бұрын
@@JesusProtects Well the story in Elden Ring is that the Greater Will guides you with Grace so you can become Elden Lord and fix the world. It goes approximately the same way in Dark Souls, you are one of many who try to gain in power (Souls/Runes) to fix the world (Link the First Flame/Restore the Elden Ring). It's basic story it's true, but it's enough to give you an objective and justify the game. The real treasure in Fromsoft's games is the lore. It's not written in plain text nor told by an NPC, it's told through the environnement and snippets of it are, written in item description. It's a puzzle and it's a great puzzle to unravel.
@ghoulishgoober3122
@ghoulishgoober3122 Жыл бұрын
@@JesusProtectsYou don't have an interest in learning the lore, which gives a much greater understanding of the story. The lore is where we learn more about what the Greater Will is, which is important in understanding the Elden Ring, and why Tarnished must fight to become Elden Lord.
@Law-of-EnTropy
@Law-of-EnTropy Жыл бұрын
Bro watched a trailer of sorts and already assumed the story will be spoon fed to you 💀
@PhileasLiebmann
@PhileasLiebmann Жыл бұрын
This is like watching only the Star Wars title crawl for A New Hope and going "Well, that made no sense at all. What a stupid movie."
@namansoood
@namansoood Ай бұрын
If a 3 minute intro explained the whole story leaving no stone unturned, player will have no motivation to go and explore the world for themselves
@elseggs6504
@elseggs6504 8 күн бұрын
If you give them absolutely nothing to work with they also have no reason to engage with. Not saying that Elden Ring is that, but some incredibly important key points such as the Elden Lord, the Ring, the Golden Order arent well explained at all. Or why people care about fingers so much. Our "Fingermaiden" meant to guide us rarely shows up at all and Mohg is so obviously a different enemy they rewrote middevelopment its not even funny
@lucastanaway4623
@lucastanaway4623 11 ай бұрын
I love his response to Godwyn dying. It's like, when you're playing it for the first time, it's like. "Oh no! Not Godwyn! He was my bro!" Without knowing who the hell he was. 😂
@stefanborcan8852
@stefanborcan8852 9 ай бұрын
bro played videogames since pong and stopped at the first mario bros
@Brruhmine
@Brruhmine Жыл бұрын
Old man read like 20 words and is now tired lmao
@adrianjuarez1162
@adrianjuarez1162 10 ай бұрын
We got kids with out there cellphones or can't pay attention for 20 seconds nobody perfect 😂😂.
@turbanheadless
@turbanheadless Жыл бұрын
people are used to being spoonfed by trash storytelling franchises. marvel, ea sports and all that sht is what these guys appreciate
@MichaelJohnson-ny6zs
@MichaelJohnson-ny6zs 5 ай бұрын
"Spoonfed".
@MrEgg-zb2nf
@MrEgg-zb2nf 2 жыл бұрын
This old man has the attention span of a trout
@cingle0866
@cingle0866 2 жыл бұрын
“Goldwyn the golden”
@StephenHenryIV
@StephenHenryIV 4 ай бұрын
So the story is pretty much; A guy was killed, things fell apart, what are these fingers, git gud. 🤷🏻
@NorsemenMead
@NorsemenMead 3 ай бұрын
Glad u get it
@jarrahe
@jarrahe Жыл бұрын
You can get a decent grasp of the story from just boss cinematics and NPC dialogue. Did Andrew even try to understand the story? Did he even play the game?
@Pwnicus187
@Pwnicus187 24 күн бұрын
If he did, he probably got to the First Step bonfire, got wrecked by Tree Sentinel and rage quit. I doubt he'll ever understand why it won GotY.
@elseggs6504
@elseggs6504 8 күн бұрын
​@@Pwnicus187 It didnt for its narrative, you pathetic ass "souls fan". Its a fun game. Simple as that. Not its story mostly told through itemdescriptions others have spoonfed you on YT, nor its riveting lore that has no contradictions/oversights whatsoever. Fun combat and Berserk-ish artstyle. Thats literally it
@ben8698
@ben8698 Ай бұрын
Sorry old man this isn’t Mario it’s a complex story you get in pieces as you go
@cyansorcerer6491
@cyansorcerer6491 Ай бұрын
if you dont understand something, then instead of bitterly complaining that its not dumbed down then take the time to learn how this storytelling format works. Look for and read lore the right way in these games.
@joeking6972
@joeking6972 3 ай бұрын
Doesn’t it make sense that the history of a world isn’t entirely known to us or is different depending on the individual reiterating it to us? Kind of like real life…
@psykodactyle
@psykodactyle 22 күн бұрын
Well turns out he's a Dailywire guy so don't expect him to be a very bright bluntstone... 😔😔😔 Also seeing as one of the top results I get from looking him up is an article about "trans people bad" I'd love to see his reaction to the explicit gender fluidity of Marika-Radagon and Miquella-Trina. His golden fundamentalist, brother Corhyn-ass could not handle Gold Mask's wisdom
@cakoseijin3603
@cakoseijin3603 Жыл бұрын
If a video game story tells you the entirety of it in one sequence , it’s not a good video game story. That’s why the elden ring story is good.
@kyleward7417
@kyleward7417 Жыл бұрын
We have an arm chair expert on the internet making up rules on what makes a game good
@madabouthollyoaks411
@madabouthollyoaks411 Жыл бұрын
@@kyleward7417 right??
@senseinuuh
@senseinuuh 7 ай бұрын
elden ring has shit storytelling but the open world is good and bosses
@Car5rtui
@Car5rtui Ай бұрын
@@senseinuuhmy only complaint is they have like the lil purple portal thingies and it takes you to a new map. Is it useless
@alexread6767
@alexread6767 5 ай бұрын
Whats confusing about it? Just remember who the Greater Will, Two Fingers, Three Fingers, Fell God, Blood Star, Formless Mother, Prince of Death, Cold Moon, Gravity Lords, Rot Goddess, Kindred of Rot, Black Blade, Black Blade Worshippers, Deathbirds, Death Rite Birds, Crucible Knights, Omens, Omen Slayers, Albinaurics, Albinaurics Part 2, Albinaurics Part 3, Lord of Blood, Miquella, Malenia, Radahn, Ranni, Rykard, Blaidd, Melina, Radagon, Fallingstar Beasts, Redmanes, Cleanrot, Haligtree Followers, Volcano Manor Recusants, Nomads, and Bloody Fingers are, and you should have no trouble following the plot. No, stupid, Dragon Cult and Dragon Communion arent the same thing! One has Red Lightning and has tenuous connections to the storm-calling magic that Godrick and Godfrey use, and the other has yellow lightning and was invented by Godwyn after he BEFRIENDED tbe dragons who use the red lightning. No, not GodFREY, GodWYN. Big difference. And then he half-died, and one of the dragons got stuck in his dream and his lightning got corrupted by death bugs. But only the yellow lightning, not the red lightning. And remember who the Numen are, and why the Cuckoo sect attacked Caria, and the important lore distinctions difference between Flame, Fire Breath, Golden Fire Breath, Scarlet Rot Breath, Fire of Slumber, Flame of Frenzy Ghostflame, Black Flame, and Blade of Death are. Yeah, all the enemy attacks just look like fire, but they're entirely different in the story. And don't forget the lore implications of mixing metals or keeping them separate, and how that is reflected in the Twins' storyline and Radagon and Marika's nature, and the hypocrisy of deeming things heretical while also touting that all things can be conjoined, and...
@alexread6767
@alexread6767 5 ай бұрын
Oh lol this man supports Kevin Sorbo and thinks Super Bowl is too woke Please stay confused
@parkerlloyd9860
@parkerlloyd9860 4 ай бұрын
Simple enuff.
@tankari231
@tankari231 2 жыл бұрын
Play the game and immerse yourself in the lore if you want to figure out the story
@johnjackson9767
@johnjackson9767 Ай бұрын
Butthurt gamers in the comments.
@HalcyonEX
@HalcyonEX 2 жыл бұрын
When Miyazaki was a child he didn't fully grasp the English language so when he read books he only understood bits and pieces and made up the rest of the story and ending based on the little info he had and he loved it THAT is why he makes the story the way he does he is just trying to share his experience with everyone else we don't deserve a man like him
@Dr_Diaz
@Dr_Diaz 2 жыл бұрын
Stop excusing his lazyness
@SpruceyTurtle
@SpruceyTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
Dawgs actually mad God damn
@vandalic8566
@vandalic8566 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dr_Diaz what laziness?
@senseinuuh
@senseinuuh 7 ай бұрын
so he wants us to suffer too😩
@stroodlepup
@stroodlepup 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna see his reaction to the dung eater
@just_for_comments
@just_for_comments Жыл бұрын
Candidate for cringiest guy on the planet
@VVVVV99611
@VVVVV99611 Жыл бұрын
This isn't a movie. I love this. It's a game game
@stephenconde705
@stephenconde705 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but for smart people who loves to read and to listen at the same time..playing... Its absolutely disappointing.... Mix story with no sequence... ... No backstories... Short cutscences.... This game is just for fun... Not for streaming..... And no moral lesson at all
@warriorwatch2406
@warriorwatch2406 Жыл бұрын
@@stephenconde705 Did you play the game? There is a clear sequence of events (though since this is an OPEN WORLD GAME you are given some leeway when it comes to certain things, like which two Shardbearers to kill to gain access to Leyndell). Most enemies in the game have backstories and all the story important bosses have entire facets of the lore dedicated to them. The cutscenes may be short, but that's irrelevant. And there are countless moral lessons you can take away from Elden Ring (though it doesn't need one since again it's a GAME).
@noikfkzn5305
@noikfkzn5305 10 ай бұрын
​@@stephenconde705lol did u ever play the game the story in elden ring is deep you can find a lot of lore and story from item, npc, place.
@azraelwolfsblood2902
@azraelwolfsblood2902 Жыл бұрын
“Ugh I don’t understand the story why can’t it just tell me everything at the beginning. Reading is too hard”
@austinmyers1568
@austinmyers1568 2 жыл бұрын
You're confused because you actually have to piece the lore
@buckschneider7973
@buckschneider7973 4 ай бұрын
U mean lore that isn’t there
@austinmyers1568
@austinmyers1568 4 ай бұрын
@buckschneider7973 if you think it isn't there then you exactly why people who love these games and stories don't want or need ignorant plebs playing these games if you can't piece the the lore or story together through the evidence in front of you then I have nothing else to say to you
@buckschneider7973
@buckschneider7973 4 ай бұрын
@@austinmyers1568 no we don’t want want ignorant ppl gaslighting and saying that the storytelling of this game is good and engaging piecing together some bs imagination that isn’t there
@austinmyers1568
@austinmyers1568 4 ай бұрын
@buckschneider7973 I'm ignorant because I have a sense for analytical story telling? It seems you are the ignorant one, my friend. You went out of your way to make an ignorant comment. Imagine playing the victim because you can't understand someone's way of telling a story. Fear of what you don't understand, so you lash out.
@erm219
@erm219 4 ай бұрын
@@buckschneider7973just because you live in your elden ring hate circle online doesnt mean it has no lore, the lore isnt that hard to understand
@sterling9314
@sterling9314 2 жыл бұрын
The story really isn’t that hard to understand. The lore might be confusing but the plot of the game just requires you to pay attention
@gurnoorsekhon6402
@gurnoorsekhon6402 Жыл бұрын
Not really. A lot of things in Elden ring don't make sense. It's the game that makes the least amount of sense out of all the souls games.
@joe-tatothepotatobiden47
@joe-tatothepotatobiden47 Ай бұрын
Ive watched a ton of lore videos and each one has different interpretations of the story. A lot of those videos just say, "This is what happened." But not a lot of "This is WHY this happened." Like why do we have Rannalas great rune but the egg is still intact? I thought the rune was the egg or in the egg or something. Was phase 2 of Rannalas fight an illusion? A dream world? Why does Ranni still want to work with us after we almost unalive her mother? Does she know what we did? Is the magic that caused phase 2 of the fight set up beforehand so she doesnt know? Why was Ranni sitting in front of a bloody 3 fingers? Why did she fight it now after all these years? How is Ranni an emphyerian? Was Marika split in 2? This isnt made clear. This is all just from 1 small portion of the story. You get no answers so it makes the story feel awful since you just give up on knowing anything.
@psykodactyle
@psykodactyle 22 күн бұрын
​@@joe-tatothepotatobiden47the boss fight I can't answer, she probably just doesn't really care since we are useful to her at first, I mean she works with Selivus despite not liking him either. However as for the three fingers, they're actually two fingers that are facing away from us, bent and misshapen (the thing that kinda looks like a thumb is just the back of the hand when you look at the model). For why she didn't fight it until now, well despite us not being sure she hasn't attempted it before, the major reason is that she needed the Finger Slayer Blade to actually kill it, and to get the blade she needed to find Nokron. Problem being, Nokron ain't easy to find and so she needed someone to slay Radahn so the fate of the stars would once more be free and for the big meteor to blast it open (the blade also requires the wielder to have a fate, so since the demigods' fates are tied to the stars she wouldn't be able to use it without Radahn dying/relinquishing his hold anyway). And as for how Ranni is an empyrean, well that's kind of a double question, because of course she is the child of Rennala and Radagon, Radagon secretly being part of Marika. They're a god with multiple aspects (it apparently ties in with beliefs surrounding alchemy. Lot's of elden ring references alchemy and metals, we literally play as a person who's grace of Gold was taken away and thus became dull and faded, or Tarnished) But it doesn't cut it just to be a demigod, you also need to be seen as fit to become an heir to the role of God by the Greater Will and by extension the Fingers. But Ranni wants to uproot and get rid of the entire system, so why would the Greater Will choose her? Well the dlc might have shed a bit of light on that I'm not quite sure what to make of it yet (it seems like the Erdtree faithful may have misinterpreted it), but one thing is safe to say, the fingers are slow as shit to relay information between themselves and the Greater Will, if they're even capable of it anymore. I mean once they realized Radagon sealed the Erdtree they freaked out and had to contact the Greater Will, but as Enya says it might take thousands of years before they get a response. So the Greater Will might not even be aware of Ranni's plot to rid the world of all godly influence, it probably just thinks "oh she's overthrowing her mom to become my new spokesperson" and seeing as it was chill with Marika overthrowing the previous era that might not be a big deal. The Greater Will could also be long gone by now (haven't finished the dlc so idk)
@notreallyginger5831
@notreallyginger5831 Жыл бұрын
Someone get this man a vaatividya video
@98pointseven
@98pointseven 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing makes any sense. Even Klavan's favorite movie "The Godfather" makes no sense. (Who hired the gunmen to shoot at Micheal in Lake Tahoe? Did Fredo let them in? Did the Rosato brothers intend to let Frankie Five Angels live? Was the cop who stopped the Rosatos in league with them? And why did Rocko Lampone go on a suicide mission to assasinate Hyman Roth?)
@lorenzocorso530
@lorenzocorso530 Жыл бұрын
*a man trying to understand the story* The title: 🤡
@kamuymamushi5877
@kamuymamushi5877 6 ай бұрын
He looks like the Noble Sorcerers. The ones turn away from Raya Lucaria
@Dev_Six
@Dev_Six 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome to Miyazaki's type of storytelling.
@rocketlaunch99
@rocketlaunch99 Жыл бұрын
Lazy crap
@Dev_Six
@Dev_Six Жыл бұрын
@@rocketlaunch99 Someone is sad God of War didn't win movie of the year.
@doubleaabattery7562
@doubleaabattery7562 Жыл бұрын
​@@Dev_Six Elden Chore makes 0 sense. Cope
@andyroobrick-a-brack9355
@andyroobrick-a-brack9355 Жыл бұрын
​@@Dev_SixI do think GoW dhould have won out in the story department. I love Elden Ring, it's one of my favorite games, but Eldej Rong is a game that promaroly builds a world and a history, while GoW actually tells a progressove story with multiple intertwining character arcs. I overall perfer Elden Ring, butbI inderstand why people are sour about GoW losing.
@DreadFather
@DreadFather 8 ай бұрын
ITEMS MOTHERFUCKA DO YOU HAVE 'EM!
@metalmayfantasy
@metalmayfantasy 2 жыл бұрын
The Souls games are very vague and more idea based and player focused, I think it is done on purpose it is just enough to hint at something to give inspiration to the writers without actually delving into the story, there is no story in these games in the same sense of stories in other mediums. Anyone who says otherwise are reaching for things (item descriptions are not story material).
@gulanhem9495
@gulanhem9495 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I adore the Souls games but I can't stand the people who argue that the stories in these games are interesting and deep.
@m33p0
@m33p0 2 жыл бұрын
there is a story. but it all happened long before the player character arrived on the scene.
@coltonknowles1314
@coltonknowles1314 2 жыл бұрын
I mean item descriptions were usually pretty helpful in understanding more of maybe not the story, but at least know more about the game and how it works
@luvillegasgarcia6786
@luvillegasgarcia6786 2 жыл бұрын
Go and watch a Lore video and after that tell me that elden ring has no history
@oz542
@oz542 2 жыл бұрын
But some items literally do give you lore, also just talking to npc's gives you a decent bit.
@jonathanrothmare3509
@jonathanrothmare3509 Ай бұрын
The NPCs in Elden ring don't even know what happened. Lmao. They all know small fragments of their own part in all the chaos
@elseggs6504
@elseggs6504 8 күн бұрын
They do know that they most attack random Tarnished for existingy look like utter zombies, which couldve been fine had it been chalked up to Destined Death being removed, but Rennala, Malenia, Rya etc all look perfectly fine
@STOPSYPHER
@STOPSYPHER 11 ай бұрын
It makes perfect sense. It is just extremely thoroughly fleshed out and you need to put the pieces together on your own, unless you just watch Vaatividya.
@davidking9605
@davidking9605 2 жыл бұрын
Can we please introduce klavan to Vaati??!!
@andrewe.8321
@andrewe.8321 4 ай бұрын
Sum up any Souls game: “basically, everything is f***ed.”
@Wulk
@Wulk 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what's going in the game THE ONLY THING I KNOW FOR REAL IS THAT THERE WILL BE BLOOD SHET
@thefanciesttortoise557
@thefanciesttortoise557 2 жыл бұрын
THE MAN IN THE MIRROR NODS HIS HEAD
@GlobalOutcast
@GlobalOutcast Жыл бұрын
THE ONLY ONE, LEFT! WILL RIDE APON THE DRAGONS BACK
@RedHotChiliPepper31
@RedHotChiliPepper31 3 ай бұрын
BECAUSE THE MOUNTAINS DONT GIVE BACK WHAT THEY TAKE
@TheDaveBloom
@TheDaveBloom 2 ай бұрын
ASH WILL RAIN DOWN UPON THE BLOOD TINGED SOIL
@SamB4Sanity
@SamB4Sanity 2 жыл бұрын
I'd be interested in Klavan's take on Ghost of Tsushima's story.
@lasagnasux4934
@lasagnasux4934 2 жыл бұрын
Is like to see him do rdr2
@richardgranati7188
@richardgranati7188 2 жыл бұрын
He’s reviewed ghosts of Tsushima
@hornetguy9063
@hornetguy9063 Жыл бұрын
@@lasagnasux4934 love the game. Just wish it had some more consequential decisions. Like how you can impact the entire world at the end in Witcher 3, from Geralt’s fate to the political fate of the Northern kingdoms.
@lasagnasux4934
@lasagnasux4934 Жыл бұрын
@@hornetguy9063 I understand that, but I feel like they put themselves in more of a box with rdr2, since it was a prequel to rdr. Most things had to end up a certain way.
@hornetguy9063
@hornetguy9063 Жыл бұрын
@@lasagnasux4934 true. But lots of new characters that were never mentioned prior. Like maybe certain actions in American venom get Sadie or Charles killed, for example. Or maybe we could save Sean. Things like that.
@niemalskappe
@niemalskappe Жыл бұрын
how can you tell that it makes no sense if you don’t even get it 💀
@andreww4012
@andreww4012 2 жыл бұрын
There's something very annoying about people who don't think video games can tell good stories. This guy should sit down and play through Mass Effect 1-3 and get back to us.
@strafer8764
@strafer8764 Жыл бұрын
Baldurs Gate 2.
@Kazbulida
@Kazbulida 6 ай бұрын
is it good or bad @@strafer8764
@senatorpineapple8149
@senatorpineapple8149 5 ай бұрын
NieR Automata
@mando7974
@mando7974 4 ай бұрын
Red Dead Redemption 2
@user-py7uh3wj9d
@user-py7uh3wj9d 2 ай бұрын
Look at this cringe lord trying to look cultured because hes too cool for the new bg3 hes gotta name bg2 . Ur just like the morrowind and oblivion praisers when skyrim came out . Cringelord​@@strafer8764
@alexmontenegro9991
@alexmontenegro9991 2 жыл бұрын
Someone tell him about Vaatividya, quickly!
@zzodysseuszz
@zzodysseuszz 2 жыл бұрын
Vaati is unreliable as almost everything he says is just speculation of extremely vague item descriptions because the stories make no sense and the lore basically was written in a way where the fans have to do all the work bc the writers were too lazy to do it themselves
@zach4prezident152
@zach4prezident152 2 жыл бұрын
@@zzodysseuszz have you actually played elden ring? The story is literally laid out for you.
@saswag2004
@saswag2004 2 жыл бұрын
@@zzodysseuszz based+cringe comment + git gud + didn't ask L ratio
@Bubba1025
@Bubba1025 2 жыл бұрын
@@zzodysseuszz Awww, is it a skill issue?
@slippers8000
@slippers8000 2 жыл бұрын
@@zzodysseuszz to a certain extent, mainly because he wants to tell "complete" stories so assuming things between confirmed events and such is necessary. Saying it's unreliable is probably a step too far. These people get to their conclusions through information in the game so getting any off that "wrong" would be a failure for their more hardcore fan base.
@KagesakiAinz
@KagesakiAinz Жыл бұрын
Dumb people complaining about not beinf spoonfed the story like every other game does. First of all if you have at least 2 brain celles you would understand at least without reading anything that there was a goddess named marika and that her children waged war after one of their siblingd Godwyn died due to a plot. You would also understand that the elden ring is the power of a god that marika had until it got shattered and each of her children got a piece of that. Also if you wake up tomorrow in a post apocalyptic world the only way you would have to know what happened would be to talk to people and read things exactly like in elden ring (:O)
@gothxm
@gothxm 7 ай бұрын
bro why were you angry lmao? this guy is never going to read this comment and think "you know he's got a point."
@adrianfsward
@adrianfsward Жыл бұрын
It makes sense when you actually play the game and listen to the npc's
@Unkwn_everwhere
@Unkwn_everwhere Жыл бұрын
Bro basically just said “yeah I’m slow” 😭
@Unkwn_everwhere
@Unkwn_everwhere Жыл бұрын
But yeah it’s honestly not that hard to understand
@doubleaabattery7562
@doubleaabattery7562 Жыл бұрын
​@@Unkwn_everwhere explain it then. In detail, fromsoft fanboy.
@RedOlympus
@RedOlympus Жыл бұрын
@@doubleaabattery7562 Isn't it an English translation of a Japanese game?
@gnelfpmeh
@gnelfpmeh 10 ай бұрын
​@@doubleaabattery7562The Fromsoft fanboys make up their own fan fiction to answer all the questions Fromsoft doesn't answer in the convuluted jumbled story, then they pretend it is official lore lol
@karu1585
@karu1585 Ай бұрын
Bro reads the intro and acts like he should know the movie
@christianolson8543
@christianolson8543 29 күн бұрын
Yeah Andy… you’re not gonna be able to start understanding in just a minute or two. The lore is deep. That being said, I’m very versed in Elden Ring lore and I still don’t really understand it. There is no source. There is no greatest being. There is no true God in Elden Ring. Marika is a lower g god, but how did she achieve this and how did the Greater Will achieve its status as the Greater Will? It’s all a bit empty. Much like real life is for an atheist.
@peachyedwards
@peachyedwards 6 ай бұрын
Is he trolling or serious? 😂
@warbossbadsmak9372
@warbossbadsmak9372 2 жыл бұрын
Klavan to understand Souls Games you need to read the cliff notes
@Michael-cb3uw
@Michael-cb3uw 17 күн бұрын
Whats ironic is that Super Mario Bros and Elden ring legit have the same story
@MrErikAvA
@MrErikAvA 8 ай бұрын
I never understood this criticism. I got the story of Elden Ring by just listening to the dialog. Sure you dont get all the little details, but that is what the items are for. DETAILS. But the greater story is quite straight forward. Then again, he mentions mario, so he probably thinks keys dangled infront of his face is high drama..
@a1ais315
@a1ais315 9 ай бұрын
This guy would make a great video game journalist
@B_B-420
@B_B-420 2 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, yes... Goldwyn the Golden. I too love that guy... He has so much gold.
@madabouthollyoaks411
@madabouthollyoaks411 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@thulsa_doom
@thulsa_doom Ай бұрын
Godwyn, Godfrey, Godrick, could've they make it more confusing? 😂
@Elden-Bear
@Elden-Bear Ай бұрын
⁠@@thulsa_doomthey’re all apart of the same family tree. Godwyn being Godfrey’s son and Godrick being Godfrey’s descendant. Also if you see, Godrick was a very very big fan of Godfrey, from the hair to the axe to the style. Of course, the name would be copied too.
@boyntonfamilyeb
@boyntonfamilyeb 10 күн бұрын
All these people talking like they didn’t need a lore video even after beating the game, heck the story is harder to figure out then actually playing the entire thing.
@DJWeapon8
@DJWeapon8 3 күн бұрын
This. These tryhards would be saying the EXACT SAME THINGS if not for the headcanon and conjecture laden "lore" videos on the games.
@xXZinogreXx
@xXZinogreXx Ай бұрын
So queen marika and godfrey have 3 kids, Mohg, godwyn, and morgott. Radagon and ranala have 3 kids too, rykard, ranni, and radahn. Godfrey and marika divorce and radagon and ranala divorce. Marika and radagon end up marrying each other and SOMEHOW fuse together into one (remember the cutscene in the end when radagons hair turns from blonde to orange.) The fused married couple end up having 2 kids. Melania and miquella who both end up having defects. Thats pretty much all i was able to get so far. I guess the elden ring is important because the demigods all now want to take the throne because queen marika is missing?
@thunder9236
@thunder9236 2 жыл бұрын
These souls games tell story very differently compared to other games. You don't get the story from the intro, just drops of information where your discovery fills in the rest.
@boiiifudont1368
@boiiifudont1368 27 күн бұрын
Older people have a habit of rather than just simply believing they’re ignorant they also have to make what they don’t understand sound ridiculous. It’s always slightly belittling and only exposes ignorance.
@Pwnicus187
@Pwnicus187 24 күн бұрын
This exactly. Like trying to explain to my boomer father-in-law why my wife and I won't be ready to retire at 60 like him, or why we both have to work 6 days a week just to stay afloat and keep our family of 3 fed. I guess he thinks I should just "work harder."
@JyotiDeka1989
@JyotiDeka1989 4 ай бұрын
In a FromSoftware game, you need to read item description and talk with NPC to find out the story. Sekiro and Elden Ring are pretty much straightforward. Dark Souls 1 holds the first place in creating your own story.
@DizzySplits
@DizzySplits 2 ай бұрын
You don't know me, you're too old, let go It's over, nobody listens to techno
@michaelevans1738
@michaelevans1738 4 ай бұрын
The structure of his fucking nose makes no sense 😴😭😭
@Salvador-312
@Salvador-312 2 жыл бұрын
The game gives you context clues in the form of item descriptions that let you piece the lore together as you play and learn about the world. It’s story is spectacular. You just haven’t tried hard enough to learn it.
@dagothishere
@dagothishere Ай бұрын
Get people like this away from games. Thx!
@bam2603
@bam2603 15 күн бұрын
This guy knows nothing
@ArtOfDyingWell
@ArtOfDyingWell 2 жыл бұрын
FS games are different in the story telling department. Because you're a nobody they treat you like a nobody meaning you have to figure out the story yourself via dialogue, item descriptions, environment details, and messages. And no edgy people comments don't say this game doesn't have a story when you have channels with hundreds of thousands to millions of subscribers making a living off telling these games lore and story for over a decade.
@byletheisner5006
@byletheisner5006 2 жыл бұрын
Lore is different from the story, the lore is the history characteristic and informations surrounding and part of the world, the story is the event portrayed directly by the narrative in the moment the events are taking place. These channels you are referring to usually delve almost exclusively into the lore, the background narrative. For the primary narrative, also called story, what you experience as you play, (descriptions, documents and tales told you about the past are background information, aka lore) is usually very minimal to the extent of barely existing.
@ArtOfDyingWell
@ArtOfDyingWell 2 жыл бұрын
@@byletheisner5006 Problem with FS games is that the two so intertwined that they might as well be the same as the lore is what explains the story including the main conflict
@MagNEt1Cc
@MagNEt1Cc 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtOfDyingWell Nice way to say you were wrong. Name one game where lore and story aren't "intertwined". Elden ring isn't as special as you like to think, it has some great gameplay but it's lacking in story.
@SpruceyTurtle
@SpruceyTurtle 2 жыл бұрын
@@MagNEt1Cc I can literally tell you the story in caveman explanation You got no hoes and your home reminds you of that. There is a vessel of a God who marrys some Chad. They have hot sex and make babies. There babies are called demi-gods. Chad is told to leave and never come back after he lost his grace and became tarnished. There was some lady who was the queen of some land and was obsessed with moons. She married a hot red haired Chad and had hot sex and made babies. Hot red haired Chad left her and she was very very sad. Hot red haired Chad married vessel of God They had hot sex and made twins After they got married, moon obsessed queen's kids where now called step demi-gods Best blue bitch had someone stole the ruin of death and killed her brother just because she can Vessel of God got mad and shattered the elden ring which is kinda just the rules of the land Hot red haired Chad found out that vessel of God was on her period and tried to repair the elden ring. It didn't work. So then there was a war called the shattering and all the demi-Gods was giving a peace of the great rune. Vessel of God told big doggo to store the ruin of death inside him so he did. All the demi-gods started fighting for the great runes and wanted more power all but best blue bitch and Margot Best blue bitch kind just said fuck your rune shove it up your ass and through it away. While Margot was just being a good boy and was protecting mother. Also there was a big war with the giants and the ancient dragons which vessel of God just said fuck you and killed them all Because she can. Plot twist vessel of God and hot red haired Chad was the same person cool right.
@crizman7032
@crizman7032 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to see his reaction to THE LOATHSOME DUNG EATER
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 11 ай бұрын
That’s the only pushback I have at people who like absolutely glaze Fromsoft, I really do enjoy the environmental story telling in their games, but you are insane to say that it’s good. Reading a piece of paper, and then 40 hours later getting the second half of a riddle that mentions that piece of paper is insanely over complicated. In order to even care about the lore you quite literally need to watch a VaatiVidya video, and it’s cool don’t get me wrong, but if this was any other game developer people would be shitting on them saying how their story makes no sense. Sometimes people need to understand just cause you like something doesn’t mean it’s great.
@AUnit2010
@AUnit2010 5 ай бұрын
Elden Ring is far and away the most coherent story in the Soulsborne series. (Sekiro had a clearer story than Elden Ring but, imo, due to the complete absence of character customization, build variety, and play styles, I don’t consider it to be a "Soulsborne" game. An incredible FromSoftware game? Yes, 100%. But "Soulsborne" game? No.)
@spaceman3613
@spaceman3613 2 жыл бұрын
He should stream himself playing all these games.
@RubenMakaya
@RubenMakaya Ай бұрын
As a new time Elden Ring player i too thought that this game's story was shit until i actually read up on the lore and paid attention to my surroundings and what the characters said. Everything clicked eventually and it became one of my fav games ever. Sometimes u just have to go out of your way to find the answers yourself 😂
@Bahador.B
@Bahador.B Ай бұрын
Dude needs to git gud at finding lore videos.
@erosion2205
@erosion2205 2 ай бұрын
That's the difference between an interactive experience and an experience. A book is an experience- a game tasks you with forming your story on its pages, i.e. scaffolding for you to write yourself in
@spce4967
@spce4967 Жыл бұрын
Ok boomer
@connor5114
@connor5114 2 жыл бұрын
fromsoft games have a different way of telling story. it’s more like the story has already existed and is ongoing and you’re thrown into it to make your affect on it while trying to figure out what happened here
@imag-nonespaghet9337
@imag-nonespaghet9337 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly people keep calling it lazy. If you know anything about the game called Journey that game has no dialogue at all. Which you find ruins and progress the journey to find more unknown things. In which the game is fun. People get butt-hurt over certain stories.
@ghoulishgoober3122
@ghoulishgoober3122 Жыл бұрын
@@imag-nonespaghet9337 It is lazy, as they do put significantly less effort on the directly told story. You lost the plot and thought any ounce of laziness means BAD. No, it means the gameplay is actually pretty rocking, but it's clear they skimped on the story in favor of something they could work on that would allow them to continue work on the gameplay (item descriptions. Like the descriptions for the various weapons which help significantly in the main gameplay loop of Elden Ring).
@eddmonk1849
@eddmonk1849 Жыл бұрын
The studio that made elden ring do treat their stories like an after fact where the things that made the world already happened a while ago and one of the greatest joys in the game is finding out the lore and what’s going on as well who are does at play. Morgott is a cool example
@zanec9108
@zanec9108 3 ай бұрын
The environment is meant to convey the story, the items, the people. It’s not meant to make sense in a two minute expository cutscene. You are meant to put hundreds of hours into this. Elden ring is a masterpiece.
@LordAlvastar
@LordAlvastar Жыл бұрын
Klavan i must introduce you to our dear friends Vaatividya
@DoubleK0802
@DoubleK0802 2 ай бұрын
As Hemingway said, "Critics are men who watch a battle from a high place, then come down and shoot the survivors."
@ginger_jeezus
@ginger_jeezus Ай бұрын
Bruh, you're confused about the story because you're not paying attention. Its literally telling it to you right now.
@feralkitty33
@feralkitty33 5 ай бұрын
Dang, Northernlion is making tiktoks now
the history of Elden Ring, i guess
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