If the dragon *is* Charo, it'd be very hard to hide their grave...

I would wager that perhaps that it is Not Charo, on account of the near-400m dragon’s grave being quite un-hidden lol

I wonder if its related to the big mother dragon at greyolls dragonbarrow, since the overlayed maps people have been doing show both their locations to be very close to one another

@@duncanwalker1717could as be why the are is name hidden grave as is people spend hours looking for it never realising it is the dragon itself

My memory may be foggy, but isn't the giant dragon supposed to be the dragon communion priestess right below it? I remember reading something about that giant dragon leaving their body and taking on a more human form to aid in the defeat of Bayle. The priestess also disappears after Bayle is defeated.

He would be gimenasouses

Just throw Shin Getter Dragon in to Armored Core 7 because why the hell not

You do realize that 3km is nothing in armored Core right?

arms fort dragon when?

Still would be the biggest from soft dragon

a dragon dragon!

This is actually a super cool concept 😮

Dungeons in Dragons

A dungeon built inside the corpse of a massive dragon sounds pretty sick, not gonna lie

Jabu Jabus Belly type beat

lmao good one

CURSE YOU.... BAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYLE

What if it's actually dragons with big honkers?

Imagine what his personal Elden Ring version hides!

Bad Dragon

Can't blame 'em. Chonky dragons are great :3

poison swamp inside a giant rotting dragon corpse.

Dig bargon.

Sizeable lizard

@@LastHalberd Lizable sizard.

Just a new Horse 🐎

dagon

But it's the most beautiful noodle with some of the most beautiful vibes ever.

eastern vs western dragons in a nutshell. Western have always been infintely more terrifying

@@joesheridan9451 In fairness, eastern dragons are mostly weather deities and tend to be neutral if not actively benevolent, while western dragons are mostly evil or are amoral in the manner of a mindless animal. They're similar enough to share a common name, but their narrative roles in the mythologies that spawned them are quite distinct.

@@joesheridan9451 Because in the east dragons are a benevolent symbol, while in the west their association with serpents, considered by Christianity to be Satanic, made them seem demonic in nature.

It's an eastern dragon. To me those are more elegant and cool looking. Eastern dragons used to be divine beings/deities. Where western dragons look fierce and portrayed as evil. PS: From where I belong there's no dragon in our mythology so I can compare both ig?

I was noticing the color change and thinking "oh wait that's alotta blood😮"

That's a cool idea, but not what they were going for, I'm pretty sure. If you look closely at the flowers in the red region, they're not just red recolors of the blue flowers, they're spider lilies, a flower associated with horror and used as a symbol for death and mourning. Considering the area, I think that's more the intent.

i like how there's the area with red flowers, then one with blue, and then further down st trinas area is purple

@@Ezekiel_AlliumMiyazaki himself said that the red flowers represent love, not death.

@@GardenGuy1943 1: Where? What's the greater context for that? 2: Love for whom, exactly? It's a graveyard full of death. They're a specific flower species associated with buddhist funerary practices. They're planted around gravesites to pay tribute to the dead. The obvious conclusion from that information is still that they represent love for the deceased. The whole Putrecense/Trina situation right nearby only reinforces that.

That's a sick cool idea.

The entrance would look like a "cave" but is actually the mouth of a massive dragon

@@dardardarnerand the exit would be his rear

@@Drakuma35 and it gets smellier the further in u go

One of the locales of Monster Hunter World is made of the skeleton of a colossal monster, a Dalamadur. `t's pretty neat.

😏

try pickle

We should be glad we can't, because they're probably all rotting away. Meaning that it would most likely end up being another poisonous swamp-cave. :(

@@strcmdrbookwyrmMiyazaki: Write that down, write that down!

​@@CorzokoV- vore..?

I also believe this.

I saw It was pierced in the head by a giant spear, who do you think killed it?

@@kianhrenak honestly i figured bayle and the jagged peak drakes killed it, like the rest of the dragon corpses, i've assumed they're all cannibals that devour one another for strength, hence why the heart is missing on Charo/unnamed dragon, i assumed bayle ate it.

The only problem is, I doesn't feel like much of a hidden grave... Unless it's being hidden by its size as opposed to the other way around.

@@alyseleem2692 i didnt discover the area till way late in the DLC so maybe thats why it felt more "hidden" to me lol, kept seeing the giant dragon corpse area and wondered how to get there.

This dragon is killed by a huge piece of rock that sticks out of the back of its neck.

@@jdjoon yeah, but who put that huge piece of rock in its neck in the first place? you think the dragon just fell on it accidentally?

For one thing, it's a harpoon in the back of his head. Secondly, and I don't think I ACTUALLY need to say this but I will anyways, it's a bit too big for Igon to wield...

@@kylestanley7843 maybe he made a giant ballista

@@Mike-official And we never got to see it on the map? Lmfao

Exactly, the moment I saw this bad boy on a first-feel stream. I knew Zulie would deliver. Glad to see my estimate ended up correct. I knew he had to be larger. Even tho, without being able to see the whole model, one could only speculate.

​@@MaledictGamingSame, I instinctively say to myself that Zullie better be covering this immediately when I saw this dragon

Literally asked Zullie to cover it last video and they delivered!

For those wondering, the music is the Lanayru Desert music from The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword

Skyward Sword OST goes insane

yeah it tells you that no actualyl this beast will NOT be moving any time soon :D

Like standing next to one of those dinosaur statues at a dinosaur park or a zoo with a dinosaur section.

Someone actually had the balls to shoot some HARPOOOOOONS at this thing.

And then finding no items because the mountain is empty lmao

Imagine if the map was a ploy to make you think it was static then it woke up when you got close

ok hear me out: what if we have to *fight* a poison swamp. like the entire swamp.

@@screetchycello ik you joke, but actually tho😂 Say it's an outer god and call it a day

I'd much rather it talk than have to fight that behemoth!

Gransaxx also has his very own signature weapon

Is this dragon not Bayle? The Dragon Communion Altar next to it says commune with bayle for learning dragon spells, and it has a large hole in its stomach as if something clawed its way out, which seems like it could be the same size as Bayle the Dread in jagged peak.

@@SlarkeSSC nay

No it's not Bayle. Bayle is at the top of the mountain, alive and well uhh not well.​@@SlarkeSSC

@@SlarkeSSC you literality fight bayle in the dlc so no

That’s great one day from will make a dragon as big as jormungandr

The next game's DLC will just take place on the back of one massive dragon, who is also the final boss.

CUUUURSE YOUUUU ZULLIE!

Ginanormous

Dudes gigantasaurus

Giga-big

@@AlbinoMichigander ginormeous

Gesnurmes

I can't find it. Can you tell me the closest site of grace and where I should head?

I'm pretty sure from that location you're just seeing this video's dragon from the north

This. I have been waiting since week 1 of ER to understand why there are drakes and dragons and how the hell they got so different. Learning about the 2 lineages was awesome. Also makes me curious about how the drakes tend to absorb elements that they eat/surround themeselves with - Ekzykes, Smarag, Adula and Borealis all gain new breath attacks and essentially bodily infusions of their new environment, but Ancient Dragons only wield lightning. Fortissax clearly shows some capability to adapt to new threats, though. I think the corpses being a mix suggest a combined assault from the Ancient Dragons, being rebuffed by the Jagged Peak Drakes, who likely hold some loyalty to Bayle. It's possible that when the assault failed, the Drakes then turned on each other, perhaps?

I assumed all the corpses are from that one ancient dragon before you fight bayle. Cos that rare gravel stone you get from the corpses says it comes from an ancient dragon preying on drakes. Or it's Bayle killing them cos not sure if he counts as an ancient dragon or not really even though he is the oldest drake

@@joesheridan9451i think it was sennasax since bayle dosent really match the features of a ancient dragon

The whole map is the dragon

Yeah imagine a world where they live on a dragon be crazy.

The universe is held on the back of a dragon... why is he smiling? WHAT DOES HE KNOW?!

Can't wait for the bigger than The Milky Way dragon

Turtle-dragon discworld

That? That's Mary. One of Bayle's two baby mamas. Greyoll's the other one.

There is environmental lore on it. We can see how he died. He died from a titanic harpoon being lodged into the back of its head. The harpoon bears the appearance of jagged stone, and has a smooth groove running down its middle, as if it was meant for a contraption rather than a giant hand. The nature of the giant harpoon, the texture of it, is reminiscent of something you'd see in Farum Azula, so a wild guess would be that the giant dragon was killed by a weapon made and possibly launched from Farum Azula.

My theory is that it's Bayless wife 💀

Could be Charo since Charo's hidden grave is hidden behind the corpse, full of red flowers that possibly got their color from all the dragon blood

I thought it was the discarded flesh of the dragon priestess lady when she took on a human form

We learn in the DLC that Placidusax doesn't even consider creatures like this to be real dragons. He declared that they should all be hunted for sport and have their hearts eaten.

I also believe much like our tarnished and many other character of human size can take on colossal enemies, Placidusax being Elden Lord would be able to hunt those giant dragons with relative ease

Funnily enough these big dragons are (lore wise) probably far weaker than Bayle and Placidusax The big dragon is killed by a big stone spear that looks like the Cragblade you get from Placi’s remembrance so it might’ve even been personally killed by Placidusax

@@riccardomiglietta7953 something I didn't realise was that Bayle is responsible for all the dead dragons in the jagged peak, ,presumably also this one. so yeah this tracks

@@LucDeTruccoulda been sennasax too considering hes up the hill , and ancient dragons hunt the lessers for sport

This dlc is just things you know but bigger.

That's what she said

The canonical name of the big dragon is now Chungssax.

farum azula lol

Or a swamp full of dragons.

They say that SotE will be the first and last dlc for Elden Ring so... No more content for this game 😢

There was a theory recently all over reddit that the map was a dragon

​@@xavihc13Guess we will have to wait for Elden Ring 2 for 10 years

And unfun to fight

The most terrifying thing about that would be the camera

These two replies are the realest shit ever

Your GPU: yep that would be terrifying Camera man: I agree

At that point, just play Monster Hunter.

Ah man now I want to play xenoblade chronicles X again 😞

@@cloudbloom based

@@cloudbloom Now imagine a Xenobalde X sequel , but the Skells function and can be customized like Armored Core

imagine that as a twist though, you get to the edge of the map and look dwon and just see an eye

Given how amazing the world design is in both from software games and monolift soft games if the two joined together who knows what crazy beautiful stuff we would get out of that.

Yeah it is crazy to image who or what killed it. Only the full might of Leyndell Royal Capital managed to bring down Gransax.

@@slender_snake My guess is an outer god

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Anything but the metric system

I'd assume the lore accurate size of Bayle and Placidusax is closer to Granssax and "Charo", Fromsoft made them smaller for gameplay reasons.

I was actually dissapointed when I first saw bayle cos they really built him up to be this ultimate black dragon and I was getting heavy balerion and the one form silmarillion vibes. But he is a cool dragon in the end none the less

@@joesheridan9451 I think there are a lot of positives there in terms of mechanics. I haaaated Midir. It was annoying as hell waiting for him to stop lumbering around so I could hit him in the head once before he started doing it again. Bayle meanwhile is quite aggressive and doesn't spend half the fight running away from you. But that does make him kinda easy in the end. I one shot him on my second playthrough of the DLC and I wasn't even trying. Maybe it's just inevitable that dragons and other large monsters are always going to be a weak point due to From's combat system?

@@joesheridan9451 My head canon is that dragons, gods and other powerful beings shrink in size after being significantly weakened. I like to think that both Bayle and Placidusax were colossal too before their feud lol

@@rainbowkrampus No I way prefer midir in every aspect. Still the best dragon boss they've done. DS3 bosses in general are better

I have measured the Archdragon before, it's not as big as you may think: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h8CfdMJ2sci5mqM.html

@@ZullietheWitch Oh thats right.

​@@Amitlu lol ds 3 fans getting humbled elden ring clears

​@@Eldenringdefenderwe still have better bosses

Nah that's bs ds3 are easier than going outside elden ring bosses are the true life experience and ds3 music is like moaning asmr but remix​@@solaireofcatarina44

How? I was inspecting every inch of the map to find things

i don't think Bayle killed that dragon - there is no lore or item or dialogue to say who the dragon was or who killed it - but the stone thing is like a huge lance piercing it. So i'm thinking it wasn't Bayle.

Are we sure it was Bayle who killed it? I figured it was an ancient dragon or a communion knight, given that it's a drake and that the Grand Altar of Communion is right next to it.

It ended up being much more annoying to get that shot than I expected, I spent like three hours troubleshooting for nine seconds of footage.

@@ZullietheWitchI was wondering how much of a PITA that was to get lol