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How Hard Should Developer Times Be? | Crash Team Racing: Nitro Fueled

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iTheDashy

iTheDashy

Күн бұрын

Developer times are likely to be coming to CTR:NF, along with the possibility of unlocking something as a reward for beating all of those times. How much more difficult do you think these times will be in comparison to the Oxide and N. Tropy ghosts, and what do you think the reward should be for them?
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@FeiiSR
@FeiiSR 4 жыл бұрын
Alright it's that time of the week, let's go. Considering I left the Time Trials alone after launch/week 1 and rather focused on improving through races, albeit not going for tight lines like one would in a time trial setting cause "lol i have reset button xd," I do find that adding the Dev Times would incentivise players to go back and improve their times and get better at the game. Also it gives me like a week to sit around doing nothing cause lol why do the time trials when I'm just gonna have to do them a week later when the patch drops anyway. Any who, meme time. I really do hope that this new character they add is MrGaming3590. After all, he's proven to be a quintessential character in the Crash Bandicoot community, even going far back to inspire Andy Gavin to create Crash Team Racing in his honour. I really am sitting here in anticipation for it, and would love to see just how people would take into consideration Nega-MrGaming, with his stats being negative values as opposed to the standard positive values like all classes currently have in the game. I also can't wait for iTheUncancelable's new Dev Time series, where he just sits at the starting line for 5 seconds and still obliterates them with ease. Truly I believe that the reason Dashy plays acceleration is because he's far too powerful with speed so he limits himself as to not make players want to rage quit because of the sheer level of skill difference between the current top players and unchained, unreformed iTheHonkHonk. Remember to ask for dog pics.
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
we need MrGaming3590 time trial ghosts.
@KuroJet
@KuroJet 4 жыл бұрын
WAITS FOR 5 SECONDS THEN OBLITERATES THEM LMAOOOO
@servor3313
@servor3313 4 жыл бұрын
Shut up weeb
@Chronospherics
@Chronospherics 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm only just above average" "I've only held 3 world records" You're way better than average Dashy. I'm sure you could compete for speed class world record times too if you actually sunk the time in.
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
thanks, but I don't think I'm *that* good lol. I guess I should more say the actual WR holders are far above me, and not that "i'm not good." The point I should have made clear is that those 3 tracks that I had WRs on were very under-optimized. Gingerbread Joyride was a day 1 and day 2 WR, Tiger Temple was a track that just nobody did (seriously, I beat the accel WR for this casually while recording for the track guide series by over a second, and the next day after I pointed it out, WR was lowered by 4 whole seconds), and then Hyper Spaceway was a track I set accel WR on really early after the game came out, so a lot of people were still improving at it. Really all I did was strat-find for them and then someone much better than me would come along and optimize it (sometimes on the very same day.) And of course this is also for Acceleration specifically, which is less competitive when compared to overall WRs.
@suqd674
@suqd674 4 жыл бұрын
Most of the sweaty tryhards don't care about accel class, so holding a wr in accel in the early months of the game's release is nothing extraordinary. Anyone could do that with a bit of effort.
@Art_Izon
@Art_Izon 4 жыл бұрын
@@suqd674 tbh, drift takes basically no effort because nobody plays it, even post-buff. i have like 8 drift and balance wrs by technicality because i'm *the only time* on the crashteamranking leaderboards for several tracks. drift and balance are the least-played classes by far. anybody in the top 1% or so of the playerbase could likely beat my times pretty easily. i just want to see the other classes get pushed.
@doclouis4236
@doclouis4236 4 жыл бұрын
2:00 "Quick shout out to the fact that developer times aren't world records, by the way." Beenox dev times: Allow us to introduce ourselves.
@brantcloyd5485
@brantcloyd5485 4 жыл бұрын
Forreal though they force actual WR times by doing near God tier runs.
@mrdeadmemes
@mrdeadmemes 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm only above average." "I've only held 3 world records." _-mate that makes you better than 90% of the people playing this.-_
@DJVexillum
@DJVexillum 4 жыл бұрын
Full disclosure, I am one of the people who had to barely scrape by to beat the Oxide times, only managing to beat the last one two weeks ago. I don't use Digital N. Tropy online even though the skin itself is sick AF, because as you mentioned, people who use it are seen as "flexers" and are laughed out of the lobby. This is part of the reason why I think locking a tangible reward behind dev times wouldn't be a great idea: there's always someone better than you, so the reward will never mean as much to some people as it does to others; it scales with your skill level. And I actually want to be able to use it and show it off to other people to say "Hey, I achieved this thing" without someone else yawning at me because it was easier for them. I worked my thumbs off for six months to beat the Oxide times, just to merely be average to good and finish 2nd-4th online consistently. Anyone can improve at the game, but not everyone starts at the same skill level. And I think as dev trials get added and maybe harder ones down the road, the amount of people going for them will be less and less. I feel locking a skin or character behind these isn't going to make your average player want to go out of their way to improve and work to get them, while the speedrunners actually going for them won't care about unlocking a skin or character so much because for them, the low time itself is the reward. Am I off base here?
@insanekangaroo4655
@insanekangaroo4655 4 жыл бұрын
Personally i think it's a shame that people who use digital N.Tropy are made fun of. Most of them are probably just proud of themselves and are not trying to brag or come off as smug.
@however3255
@however3255 4 жыл бұрын
imagine not wanting substantial rewards for completing difficult challenges in a difficult video game.
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
Hey all, this is one of the bigger video commentaries I've worked on. This video started off as an hour-long commentary, and I was able to cut it down to about 25 minutes. I tried my best to be humble about a lot of these topics, but ultimately hurting someone's feelings is probably unavoidable when talking about this subject. I'd like to encourage discussion in the comments about what your opinions are about developer times, their difficulty, and their rewards; but, of course, I'd like to ask you to please listen to all of my reasonings mentioned in the video first. All of the resources and stuff can be found in the video description. I hope you guys have a wonderful day :)
@ryanimateon
@ryanimateon 4 жыл бұрын
really creeps me out how easy you guys think the time trials are, and how often you undersell your ability. I think the ctr community finally lost their minds after years of people calling the game a stupid Mario kart clone
@ryanimateon
@ryanimateon 4 жыл бұрын
also just adding im not against the dev times, sounds cool
@rustycox7741
@rustycox7741 4 жыл бұрын
It’s just humble bragging
@Rmac524
@Rmac524 4 жыл бұрын
the higher skilled you are, the more you understand your own skill
@TheForhekset
@TheForhekset 4 жыл бұрын
I'm would definitely dread harder times, I struggled a lot with oxide times. The gingerbread track was the hardest yet.
@kidsIIIII009
@kidsIIIII009 4 жыл бұрын
Characters who don't have a legendary skin yet: -Geary 😞 -Hunter -Gnasty Gnorc -Komodo Moe -Nitrus Brio -Pasadena O Possum -Ebenezer Von Clutch -King Chicken -Rilla Roo -Yaya Panda -Chick -Stew -???
@enterthekyuubi
@enterthekyuubi 4 жыл бұрын
U-turning was an original mechanic in the original CTR. The only difference with Nitro Fueled's version is that you get to keep your boost while doing so. You couldn't in CTR '99. Of course it's not getting removed. Certain tracks were designed with U-turning in mind. Case in point: Turbo Track. You can't maintain max speed in the hairpins unless you U-turn because the angles of the corners are way too sharp to powerslide through.
@victoriac1103
@victoriac1103 4 жыл бұрын
I love your U-turn rant. My bf says I’m using an exploit every time I use it
@Mr_MachoGlobe
@Mr_MachoGlobe 4 жыл бұрын
Also they really should just add ghost data so I can just race the wr holders ghost.
@niikasd
@niikasd 4 жыл бұрын
Ctr is such a weird product in that the customers who spend the most time on it spend less money in the game. That is to say the best players are not the most profitable audience. I personally just want to beat Beenox's actual office records because that'd be the most satisfying to me. As for a reward I do not mind either way but I suspect Beenox is going to put a skin as a reward.
@niikasd
@niikasd 4 жыл бұрын
Nonetheless it should be a bigger step up in difficulty than oxide is from Ntropy. People have played the game for 6 months now, even those who struggled with oxide would now find him easy.
@BeefyWaltoon
@BeefyWaltoon 4 жыл бұрын
Emperor Velo is supposed to be the greatest, most accomplished racer in the Galaxy, so having him unlocked via these developer times would make a lot of sense.
@MatteoKysely
@MatteoKysely 4 жыл бұрын
13:35 I couldn't agree with you more. These are *exactly* my thoughts. How can you be so good at the game and have so good and accurate opinions that aren't horse shit? xD
@PetarBladeStrok
@PetarBladeStrok 4 жыл бұрын
If they're going to add it. You should only get a badge. Nothing gameplay or skin related. My opinion.
@darthcyberbotbandicoot4513
@darthcyberbotbandicoot4513 4 жыл бұрын
That is a very good idea. Give players a special badge to prove they are that good, and really that is all they need. I do not want any content locked behind a challenge that many if not most players will never complete.
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
In all honesty for me personally, I'd prefer this. This means people can get recognition for their accomplishments without having to "show off" the character/skin they unlocked. A big reason why I never used digi-tropy aside from "it wasn't a big deal" for me, is because I like other characters/skins better.
@IcyXzavien
@IcyXzavien 4 жыл бұрын
I pretty much agree with everything you said. Something like Emperor Velo or a skin for him would definitely motivate me to improve on tracks I’m not fond of. I’ll know it’ll improve my halfway decent u-turning skills.
@israboiluvsmario
@israboiluvsmario 4 жыл бұрын
it can be inferred beenox encourages the use of u-turning, on one of the loading screens talking about ring rally an info reads along of the lines of "with the use of advanced techniques you can get a higher score in ring rally". If people still question its existence as a bug or glitch idk what to say.
@eksskellybur
@eksskellybur 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Dev times should be even harder on purpose, because it would give us the motivate to try again over and over until we finally beat it. There's been some cases where it had took me a 4 hours and then to come back to CTR in the morning, just to beat Oxide. So I'll be seeing the Dev Times less like a challenge and more like a teacher. Because when I do finally beat Oxide, I feel that appreciation of beating him, and I unlocked how much better I am now. CTR as a whole is purposefully brutal to teach us the motative to become better at the game, and that no one is going to hold your hand, unless is something like Easy Mode.
@giantenemyfool
@giantenemyfool 4 жыл бұрын
What I like about you is that you’re so humble. You’ve owned three world records yet you still think you’re average?
@JBullock54
@JBullock54 4 жыл бұрын
Well, now that Velo’s times are out.. how much faster do you think the dev times will be?
@ElPatron113
@ElPatron113 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying what needed to be said! I 100% agree with everything you mentioned. The fact is that you can beat all Oxide ghosts by just holding fire, which isn't much to ask. And I agree with you about u-turning. It's obviously intended to be in the game but the fact that it's not acknowledged is annoying. Like, why? In the Ring Rally tips they say "advanced techniques" will help you...then they don't say what they are and don't mention them in the game tutorial. I really wish they'd just acknowledge some of the tech that's been in the game since it came out and incorporate it into the developer times.
@darthcyberbotbandicoot4513
@darthcyberbotbandicoot4513 4 жыл бұрын
I've played since the ps1 CTR and still can't beat N Tropy's time on oxide station. There are a lot of players just like me who will most likely never unlock Dr. N Tropy due to him being locked behind something that many players even ones who have played since the original game still cannot beat. The only thing I hated about the original CTR was that N tropy was locked behind time trial. I'm cool with a skin being locked behind that mode but characters should not be. I want to play as N tropy but I'll never get him. I play video games to have fun and relax. There is nothing fun or relaxing beating every time trial, if anything its frustrating. If they lock Fake Emperor Velo behind dev times than there's yet another character I have been wanting for a long time that I'll never get to play as. I dont mind if they lock a skin behind those times. Video games are meant to be fun. I shouldn't have to be the best of the best to enjoy any of the games core content, such as the characters, tracks, and vehicles. Pretty much all of those should be available to begin with. Skins are not core content so lock them behind what ever you want.
@ElliotFW
@ElliotFW 4 жыл бұрын
DarthCyberbotBandicoot I don't wanna be the get good guy, but come on. N.Tropy really isn't that hard to beat if you learn and practice the mechanics of the game.
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
This is honestly a 100% understandable take that I can respect. The only thing is where people draw the line for "core content," since pretty much everything is cosmetic. What really differentiates something like Digital N. Tropy, and N. Tropy in general? Admittedly, I have a hard time putting myself in someone else's shoes for this, because for 1, there isn't a character that I actually care about that's locked behind something skill-based, and for 2, even if there was, I'd probably do everything in my ability to unlock them, even if it means putting my nose to the grindstone to improve to that level to unlock them. I think the big take-away for this is more that this goal would be there permanently, so if someone wants to put it off and come back to it later, its there. Because, yeah for some it may be difficult, but they're definitely not impossible, and should be looked at as a goal to work towards. I can also understand that not everyone likes Time Trials. I personally love them and prefer to do them over playing online, or pretty much anything else nowadays. However, I respect that they require a lot of patience, since you end up spending a lot of time resetting while you gradually improve. My background in other reset/time-trial heavy games such as TrackMania and Trials: Evolution are probably where I built up my love for Time Trialing, that not everyone else might have.
@TheGameBezerker-Z9K
@TheGameBezerker-Z9K 4 жыл бұрын
I'd rather flipping not rage my way to oblivion and beyond to beat all those hard Developer's times in the CTR and CNK tracks, just for a character if that's what Activision and the ppl who think its a good idea, which is literally disgusting, had in their grub-filled minds. (That DriverWhoAmI is better off as an unlockable via Pit Stop or a future Grand Prix, heck, if it's Emperor Velo the 27th, that is guaranteed to be a CNK Adventure Mode unlockable if they had their heads on straight!!!) The unlock for such a tremendously horrific task would be 100% better off a new legendary skin for Oxide since you get one for N. Tropy upon beating all of his times, a special Champion kart decal, or maybe even a new kart body that has Beenox written all over it.
@Steel_Bison
@Steel_Bison 4 жыл бұрын
It's a double edged sword for Beenox. On one hand, yeah having Velo locked behind developer times (or have them be Velo ghost time trials) would be enough motivation for me to get better at the trials. On the other hand, A LOT of people have been requesting Velo for a long time and people being so excited that he's in the game...only to discover that he's locked behind another time trial challenge would result in a TON of backlash.
@blobbem
@blobbem 4 жыл бұрын
New skin for beating dev times? Cool, I like it. It'd be a rarer version of the digital N. Tropy skin. New character for beating dev times? Naaah mate, too far. I speak as someone who has no problems with Oxide's ghosts as well, but I wouldn't want to lock a highly requested character, or any character really, like Fake Velo behind a rather high skill ceiling. Some extra challenge would be nice to have for those who want it though. And regarding U-turning, while it is possible to do it on the Switch version, I loathe doing it. U-turning with the Joy-con's directional buttons hurts my bloody thumb, so I wouldn't be able to keep doing it for an entire race. I only U-turn when I absolutely need to, e.g. Turbo Track's hairpin turns, that last corner for Thunderstruck and Hot Air Skyway. If a dev time trial used U-turning through most of a track with USF, my thumb would chop itself off.
@ZioIsPwnzor
@ZioIsPwnzor 4 жыл бұрын
You know what? Make them harder, gives me a reason to try and get better at Oxide Station and Cortex Castle.
@euric869
@euric869 4 жыл бұрын
As someone who struggled some Oxide times the first time around. And had gotten better at the game I can agree that yes most Oxide time trails after re doing my time trails are easy and would need some improvement because even in tracks that are just straight forward Oxide messes up giving you a even bigger lead but I can say that some tracks on the other hand are tight races without barely room for error. I have to disagree with you saying your "above avarage" you're tecnically by watching the footage a almost perfect player maybe not a active world record holder but if out of a group of 500 you're the 501 best player out of let say 200k active players then you're not "above avarage". Regarding U-turning i don't think it was a intended feature yes beenox left it because it would more so upset the people who went out their way to learn it (which is not something easy to do anyway) and you might find this like a excuse but i don't think you should be required to use something like that too beat some developer time that only elite players like yourself can find challenging.
@Garma1337
@Garma1337 4 жыл бұрын
Great argumentation, I liked every elaboration you made. I think the Developer times more or less have to be beatable by every class anyway because even getting close to Turning WRs with speed would just straight up be impossible for most people. I assume you know this but how many players do you see online finish Tiny Arena in less than 3 minutes? Even on the leaderboards this is just like 500 people. Setting the bar a bit above is definitely reasonable. Very good video.
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
Me personally, I've only seen sub-3 TA in just regular matchmaking once or twice I think. Of course items play a big part in this, but I've definitely seen it before if someone gets a break-away and doesn't get hit at all. Glad you enjoyed the video.
@Vulcanfaux
@Vulcanfaux 4 жыл бұрын
That is silly, re2 remake makes you beat the game under a certain time limit to get really overpowered weapons. But we do that just so we can unlock those weapons so we can just screw around with an infinite rocket launcher in a relaxed playthrough. And those are really hard to unlock to begin with. So I'm fine having something neat as an unlockable and placed behind something very hard.
@1Hol1Tiger
@1Hol1Tiger 4 жыл бұрын
Humble Bragging does not negate that the Oxide Times are unrealistically hard
@KuroJet
@KuroJet 4 жыл бұрын
DOGGOOOOOOOOOOO ;A; Okay real talk, everything you said is pretty much spot on. Digi Tropys online in the first months of the game were a hoot because they always thought they were hot shit and then you'd end up DNFing them. At a point, I thought about making a video of nothing but races where I literally just flexed on DigiTropys by DNFing, but I scrapped it thinking I was gonna hurt someone's feelings, lol. The problem that I see here is one that I see everywhere (Fighting Games, RPGs, Platformers, etc): People don't want to 'get better' at the game, they just want everything handed to them for free and it's singlehandedly the most annoying thing I've seen in my 26 years of playing. When N. Sane Trilogy dropped and everyone was calling it the Dark Souls of Platformers (that joke still isn't funny, btw), it was stupid. I will say that N. Sane was wild for me because after playing it, I did wonder HOW exactly I beat Crash games as a kid when I was only 6 or 7 but was struggling now. Did I complain about it? No, I hunkered down, and got better to overcome. Seriously, it just gets to the point where it's just super ridiculous. Before CTR dropped, I was playing the demo almost everyday at work and literally everyone on the subreddit was losing their shit at what I was doing on the demo when it was literally standard basic stuff that you need to even SURVIVE CTR at all. Even my Sony Representative was shocked at my times for the demo, and when she gave those times to her other co-workers/bosses/even Activision, they were straight up amazed. But I just wasn't doing anything special. Holding fire is a bare minimum for this game, so is u-turning. Now, however, I will raise the point that the game itself doesn't give you all the tools you need to be able to succeed. Any game where you have to outsource in order to get better at it is problematic, and I've had so many people come to me and personally thank me just for teaching them how to U-Turn. If the World Wide Web didn't exist, so many of these people would be in the dark about these techniques, and that's bad that the game itself doesn't teach you these things. Hard Mode in Adventure is a prime example. If you didn't even know how to hold fire, know what Sacred Fire was, know SCs, and so on, you wouldn't even make it past Crash Cove. But the disparity between Hard and Normal is so jarring that people just think Hard mode is flat out impossible. But I beat the entire thing in 2 days after the game dropped, 101%, all platinum relics. While Hard Mode is super cheap (shout outs to losing to Turning Polar beating my Speed Character on a straight while I'm boosting ayeeee lmao), the game itself should teach you the skills necessary to even EXIST online.
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
big yuh. I really wanted to drive that last paragraph home in the video, because I think its really unacceptable that we don't have very many good training tools in the core game. Even if dev times are introduced and do u-turning and can hold fire, a lot of people that struggle with them are still just gonna be scratching their heads and not knowing how to do them because there's no information in-game about it.
@CrashFan93
@CrashFan93 4 жыл бұрын
They really could have used new Aku Aku/Uka Uka lines to explain the more advanced moves not out right spoil them for yourself but certain hints
@Trecherousbeast
@Trecherousbeast 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know that SF and USF existed until Nitro Fueled was coming out! I 100% agree that there needs to be something in the game to teach you those advanced techniques. When I was playing online was how I learned about certain shortcuts, and how to do them. I still don't know how to U-turn but I've beaten Oxide on all of the tracks, I would definitely like a harder time trial to motivate me to learn!
@1TheVelociraptor
@1TheVelociraptor 4 жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree. People should, unironically, put some time into the game and git gud instead of whining about being left behind
@MatteoKysely
@MatteoKysely 4 жыл бұрын
Also cute doggo.
@ellisg95
@ellisg95 4 жыл бұрын
You've held three world records yet consider yourself only above average at the game? That's like Usain Bolt referring to himself as a "little bit quick." In my opinion, I would like the dev times in the game. It will add an extra challenge, however, the reward for beating them all should only be a skin and/or kart paint job/decal. I do think a brand new character as a reward eg Fake Velo would be unfair on those simply not as skilled, especially young children or without the time to get better. I have a life, a job, a girlfriend, other passions and hobbies. Though I understand it, this mentality of "get good" is somewhat childish. CTR is a game aimed at all ages and all video game players, not just those that have hours upon hours to master every single aspect of every track. Even then, even if someone does have all the time in the world to play this game, each individual is naturally different from another, it might take one player 6 hours to master an element of CTR that somebody else would need 12 hours to master. I understand that everyone's bar for what makes a good player or bad will be slightly different. I consider myself a "good" player despite having not beaten all of Oxide's times, I've beaten roughly half; some with ease, some by a second or two and there are some tracks where I'm about 10-15 seconds off the pace. I'm not bashing anyone for easily beating Oxide's times, the beauty of CTR and what makes it, in my opinion, the best kart racer of all time is that a player's ability to improve at this game is effectively limitless. Unless you've achieved a perfect run, time can always be taken off these courses. Sorry for the long rant but in conclusion, I think Dev times will be a great addition to the game, however, I don't think a brand new character is a fit reward for beating them, it should be a new skin and/or paint job.
@insanekangaroo4655
@insanekangaroo4655 4 жыл бұрын
I Couldn't agree more.
@luciowins9946
@luciowins9946 4 жыл бұрын
This is pretty funny considering the prompt for unlocking a dev time is “git gud”
@jaybeanysan8465
@jaybeanysan8465 4 жыл бұрын
Great content dashy, thanks for the content from all the ctr community. You’re too humble man if you consider yourself an “above average” player than what do you consider us? 😅
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
I don't judge people based on their skill, so long as they're willing to improve :)
@Mr_MachoGlobe
@Mr_MachoGlobe 4 жыл бұрын
As a speedrunner I Don't really care what times they will be If they are exactly a top 100 time on all of the tracks on Leaderboards then that will be cool and it would make a lot of sense because people have had 6 months to practice to get top 100 a lot. Just my opinion
@stefanloncar6868
@stefanloncar6868 4 жыл бұрын
I got N. Tropy So i pray for god that it’s not another character locked behind developer times I’d prefer if they’d be new skin or Xfinity Kart
@NicCleaver_CoomeraCollector
@NicCleaver_CoomeraCollector 4 жыл бұрын
I don't think the reward will be a character or skin. It doesn't seem likely Beenox would go to the trouble of designing a character and legendary skin with separate animations knowing that only a handful of people will be able to unlock it, especially if the developer times are world record hard. So here's my theory as to what the reward will be... We know there's a limited kart 4 coming in the next grand prix and since the champion kart already has enough decals, it's likely we'll get a new kart for the remaining six GPs. There was a bug with the original Back N Time decal, so we got an extra one. I imagine the amount of decals will be the same for both karts, so maybe the extra one for the new champion kart will be the reward for beating developer times. The decal could have Emperor Velo on it (if he ends up being the ghost for these time trials) and his hoverbike would make sense as the new champion kart. Just a theory though...
@zikkeboi
@zikkeboi 4 жыл бұрын
The problem of locking Velo behind the times is that fact that he is a much requested character. If it was a charter that was less liked would make it more bearable, but then again if the character was not wanted no-one would put in the effort.
@DatAtDawn
@DatAtDawn 4 жыл бұрын
I personally feel like emperor velo should be a reward for the CNK adventure mode if they add it and I'd be fine with them locking a special skin for him behind the developer's times
@brandonlewis2861
@brandonlewis2861 4 жыл бұрын
God I hope beating the developer times is just a skin or a kart and not a character. N.TROPY WAS ENOUGH FOR ME!!!
@MasterSpencer2483
@MasterSpencer2483 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting seeing how this has aged
@Laekith
@Laekith 4 жыл бұрын
I vote for "incredibly hard" and "nothing at all"
@-Lola.
@-Lola. 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I know that Krunj guy. He’s actually pretty chill ngl
@unidentified2026
@unidentified2026 4 жыл бұрын
Using a d-pad probably helps a lot with u-turning right. I use the analog stick and I can only do it by practicing specific parts of the track.
@AKJord
@AKJord 4 жыл бұрын
My opinion is that the ctr elite are going to run rings around these ghosts anyway and say they weren't hard enough anyway. While average players like myself who just play for fun but consider themselves good enough to beat the oxide times by a distance and wanted to get 100% unlock are going to be left out in the cold. I wish I had the time to spend grinding time trials to get better at the game but I simply don't. Your arguments fair that people who are properly good at the game want something to flex but surely their position on the leaderboards should be good enough. New players who find even the tropy and oxide times hard are going to be completely put off by this and feel like they'll never be that good. The dev times want to be nothing more than holding fire and a decent line round the whole track or let's be honest about 90% of the player base won't be able to unlock said item and that's just going to put people off the game. I respect your opinion but maybe call this a bit of a counter argument.
@MasterOfTruck
@MasterOfTruck 4 жыл бұрын
people complaining about how it wouldnt be fair to lock content behind staff ghosts like its a completely new idea _CLEARLY_ havent played mario kart wii...
@rezzthecontroller790
@rezzthecontroller790 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love for their to be a character behind dev times and then a second one called Champion Times where you race against E. Velo and have to beat all of them to unlock him. Or get E. Velo for the dev times and a legendary skin for him from the Champion times.
@kyotanaka920
@kyotanaka920 4 жыл бұрын
My opinion: Emperor Velo should be tied behind time trials just on the basis that it'll get more people to play the mode. If he is put in the game as is, as in through a grand prix... chances are, nobody's gonna touch the bastard after they get him. In which case, I'd rather have him have some kind of special status. Something the digital ntropy has but is not really a joke to earn. The oxide ghosts are all disappointing, and there is nothing to do in time trial... especially since you can't use friends or even WR holder ghosts. Real talk, time trial is literally multiplayer but without the items or collision. I'm also on speculation that people think developer times are world record holders. Let's get something straight, if getting world records is a requirement to work at Beenox, RedbarBR(?) would be the damned CEO by now. If anything the developer times are... well, the developer's best times at time trials. This is under the assumption they dont doctor the ghosts in a way to make it be a joke of course. There's no need to fear the ghosts, if you've been playing CTR since the beginning, chances are with some practice you can easily beat the dev's times too. Hell, they might hate Dragon Mines just as much as you, dont let their pains go to waste. Of course, beating dev time for ALL tracks would be overkill. Maybe limit it to all bonus tracks, since those have no actual reward?
@MECHDRAGON777
@MECHDRAGON777 4 жыл бұрын
This video makes me wonder how I never saw your name when I check Electron Avenue's Accel records daily for over a month. Also, Jordy925 beat the Accel World Record with Turning, so how would Electron Avenue fit with the "Tack on a percentage/set time to the Turning World Record" If it is less than a two second of EA's Turning WR, then there will be a problem for most people. Anyway, love the video, keep up the good work.
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
EA is probably one of my least ran tracks. i dunno, i just prefer Tiny Arena if I'm gonna do a long course. I also only submit to CTRanking when I'm really satisfied with my time. That also being said, couple things about EA (at least for accel) is that actual WR is 3:01.11 by javich, but he's never uploaded it, assumingly because he's not super satisfied with the time (what i'm getting at here is that its not super optimized with the usage of the SG). the other thing that should be talked about is if we should even include times with SGs for this kinda thing, since they're kind of a glitch, y'know? I personally wouldn't expect people to learn how to do SGs just to beat a dev time.
@MECHDRAGON777
@MECHDRAGON777 4 жыл бұрын
@@iTheDashy That actually makes sense. My Sum of Best on EA is 2:59.93 personally, and Jordy925 told me a 2:56 is possible with Accel. (He also said Accel should be able to get a 56 or 57 lap time.) Also, if WR really is 3:01.11, then I was beaten by two frames. Either-way, thanks for giving me motivation to continue my quest to get a sub three again.
@nhernandez925
@nhernandez925 4 жыл бұрын
I hope it’s just leaderboard bragging rights and no physical rewards for beating developer times.
@TroboTicTac
@TroboTicTac 4 жыл бұрын
17:32 does that mean the "skilled based matching" is based on track times not online wins or something?
@benshapirohamburgerhelper1239
@benshapirohamburgerhelper1239 4 жыл бұрын
The people who argue against the reward probably don't know what CTRanking is dude. They probably look at the 0.13.87 time on the in-game leaderboard of thunderstruck and shit their pants.
@FoxPrimed
@FoxPrimed 4 жыл бұрын
I'm up for a new challenge. Those Developer ghosts are going down.
@Maximum1Impulse
@Maximum1Impulse 4 жыл бұрын
I could do it (with some struggle of course) but me 6 months ago wouldn’t have a chance in hell. You have to understand that there are lower level players still. Not only that but the driver stats lie AND they don’t even teach you air braking or u-turning. I had to master that on my own. And if the game itself doesn’t teach you the techniques to succeed then you can‘t really demand it from others players, ya know? Holding a character/skin behind WR grazing trials is a little cold. Just a trophy or icon would suffice imho. Winning online is it’s own reward :)
@rudyramadhana4127
@rudyramadhana4127 4 жыл бұрын
coming here after watching dev times videos
@benshapirohamburgerhelper1239
@benshapirohamburgerhelper1239 4 жыл бұрын
22:54 Actually I was able to hold laps of blue fire here back in my joystick days (those were dark times for me...) by mixing 360 turns with drifts, so even then its actually possible.
@kbd261
@kbd261 4 жыл бұрын
For the record Ive beaten the oxide ghost and I don',t think you should lock a character until you have beaten Dev. times look at the trophy and see how many people have gotten this trophy out of the millions of people who have played this game however since the game is so skilled based I would love a training mode that would allow you to rewind up to at least your last 30 sec. this would allow you to master certain turns or skills cuz I hate when I loose blue fire, or fail a turn because of a turn and then I have to go around the track to practice that turn again .
@Art_Izon
@Art_Izon 4 жыл бұрын
4:04 dude, your best times are like consistently 2-3 seconds faster than mine, and i'm using drift post-buff. i need to step it up, haha
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
you can do it~
@StigmaLotus
@StigmaLotus 4 жыл бұрын
Damn, I gotta main speed after all. Yes, I am that dumbass that mains handling on Gingerbread Joyride
@mistafoxswitch9091
@mistafoxswitch9091 4 жыл бұрын
Lmfaooo when you quote a krunk what do you expect dashy hahaah you know it’s gonna be facts but all over th place especially when it’s the leader of the krunk gang : ME KRUNKS BUT MUHUHAHAHHAHAAAA. Proper vid bro fr tell em bro!!!
@kennydarmawan13
@kennydarmawan13 4 жыл бұрын
Some tracks' dev times should not be THAT much longer than Oxide times, like with Sewer Speedway. At the same time, not forcing shortcuts like with Dragon Mines.
@emptee4494
@emptee4494 4 жыл бұрын
Give em a sticker
@titaniumcranium3755
@titaniumcranium3755 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever I wear the digital n tropy skin I cant get into a match
@crashtefano
@crashtefano 4 жыл бұрын
Uhm... Of course if developer's times were not better than Oxide's ghosts, that would be absolute meme and put Beenox to shame but, since most players are still struggling to keep up with N. Tropy's ghosts (please DON'T put this character in the pit stop area), I'm not sure it would be a good idea to put Emperor Velo as a reward for this challenge; competitive players would love it, while most casual players might hate it. I can imagine the developer's times as an optional task from the Pro Challenges featured in the next Grand Prix. It might work better: if you can make it, you should earn so much Nitro you might just fill the whole gauge and go for the Top 5% of the leaderbord, but, if you can't make it, it's fine and you can still try keeping up with the rest of the players by getting Nitro points in other ways (in any case, players who can beat developers are still being rewarded much more than those who will not even try the challenge, so it would definitely be a skill-based challenge that gives respect to the best player)
@mediawatcher9225
@mediawatcher9225 4 жыл бұрын
These times are going to give me hell
@RAAAHUM
@RAAAHUM 4 жыл бұрын
I'm actually surprised at the fact that I've gotten faster times than you on some of the tracks.
@Marquelioo
@Marquelioo 4 жыл бұрын
Velo does U turn, yet it wasn’t such a big challenge
@StigmaLotus
@StigmaLotus 4 жыл бұрын
Remember when I said the Dev Times should be Turn viable? Hehehe FUUUUUUUUUUU
@hayden7027
@hayden7027 4 жыл бұрын
You'd be right, this comes across as hella condescending. I agree that the dev ghosts should maintain fire on each track but the times aren't for the pro community, who represent less than a percent of the player base. The challenge for people of your skill level is setting world records. If you aren't good enough to achieve those but are too good for the games regular achievements then tough 🤷‍♀️
@BEEPIcons98
@BEEPIcons98 4 жыл бұрын
Hello iTheDashy I’ve just wanna let you know that I was racing with in a lobby today.
@MarinaOatmeal
@MarinaOatmeal 4 жыл бұрын
10:56 iTheDab
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
stfu speed abusing traitor
@MarinaOatmeal
@MarinaOatmeal 4 жыл бұрын
🐗
@SamuelJohnsonYT
@SamuelJohnsonYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarinaOatmeal you got rekt kid
@MarinaOatmeal
@MarinaOatmeal 4 жыл бұрын
Happens bruh
@SamuelJohnsonYT
@SamuelJohnsonYT 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarinaOatmeal ok
@masterwolfofthesea4817
@masterwolfofthesea4817 4 жыл бұрын
I ain't doing Time trials anymore so yea I got N Tropy
@MatteoKysely
@MatteoKysely 4 жыл бұрын
I got a little idea on how to make the ghosts balanced - make 5 ghosts for each track, each with a different driving style, and depending on which driving style you choose a certain ghost will be up against you. [Choose a speed engine -> ghost with a speed engine will be against you]. This would make it balanced, so that it'd be equally hard for speed mains, as turn mains. Made a Reddit post as well, here: www.reddit.com/r/crashteamracing/comments/ent6kn/developer_times_how_to_make_it_balanced/
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
eh i personally wouldn't mind this but its a little far-fetched in terms sheer effort they'd have to put in.
@MatteoKysely
@MatteoKysely 4 жыл бұрын
@@iTheDashy yeah, as I said, I can't really see Beenox putting much effort into it. It would make it balanced, but idk, I'm really just curious to see what they'll do with it. Or maybe it won't be about TTs at all.
@nooberstone
@nooberstone 4 жыл бұрын
if its just a skin not a chracter locked behind them then possably but locking emperor velo behind something ONLY and i mean only a handful of people can do is not okay.
@lalatoya_
@lalatoya_ 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares? It is Emperor Velo. He only appears in a single spin-off game and he is technically already on the game. You are acting like the developer times are going to be actually hard and Crash Bandicoot himself will be the reward lmao
@Jetz72
@Jetz72 4 жыл бұрын
I think the question of "how hard should developer times be" is flawed. Developer times are supposed to be *the best times* from the dev team. Their difficulty shouldn't be the product of any deliberate engineering.
@SmokieByron
@SmokieByron 4 жыл бұрын
I cool with harder ghost. But only problem is Dragon mines and turbo track. Because i still have a hard time doing the U turn 😂👌
@COSMICking831
@COSMICking831 4 жыл бұрын
The way I play I'm a nitro kart player so I use the same character and kart and the balance with crash and his nitro kart on my videos to
@TroboTicTac
@TroboTicTac 4 жыл бұрын
14:45 It would be less grindy and more skill if you lost trophies for 3rd and under
@undertakerbutler9827
@undertakerbutler9827 4 жыл бұрын
Velo XXVI :D
@ratchet_0617
@ratchet_0617 4 жыл бұрын
crash cove time trial has already been hacked somehow hope they fix those times check it out on ps4
@iTheDashy
@iTheDashy 4 жыл бұрын
I already know about this, and how its being done. Its a glitch that allows you to use cheats but still post times, that's why there's impossible times posted on every single track in the game now. Better yet, you can abuse this glitch in multiplayer too (and every other game mode).
@voiceofreason4551
@voiceofreason4551 4 жыл бұрын
First ask yourself: are the developers even better compared to oxide? As for bragging and such: online players allready run from digital trophy when he appears so if a new time trail unlock skin/character appears and has insane requirement to get many more online matches wil never begin.
@twirox1662
@twirox1662 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like the times be at least a little harder. Oxide's times aren't that hard really...
@chadjones967
@chadjones967 4 жыл бұрын
Wait... Why are people salty about u turning? It's not like it's hard. All you have to do is press square in midair and turn.
@Vulcanfaux
@Vulcanfaux 4 жыл бұрын
So here is an idea for the unlockable for the dev times. Instead of just 1 unlockable. Why not make it multiple things depending on the set, now hear me out, You know how the game divides the tracks depending on where you see them in the adventure mode or if it's a cnk or bonus track? Use that as the sets, now as you know there is one with only 2 tracks (slide coliseums and turbo track) make that set be the one that unlocks the character, that being the lab assistant. His default should be drift and maybe make him the ghost we see for the devs. Now then, going from their if you beat the 4 tracks from any of the areas you can get a skin based on the area, like the pirate assistant for the first hub, the explorer for the second and so on. That does however leave the whole cnk and bonus as they will both have more than 4 tracks in their respective sets, for them I'd think the skin should be something extra special. Or something very unique. Now I'm not saying this specifically, but what if the cnk tracks if you beat all 13 dev times, you unlock the lab assistant wearing the crash guy suit, I know that will mess with the model but I'm just using it as an example for now, unless something better is thought up. Ofcoarse I would also say treat the lab assistant like the championship kart where he only has those skins and not alt colors like everyone else. I guess the final question would be should there be an unlockable if you beat all dev times. I dont see why not, idk what though. Now that's just an idea, and I thought since everyone wants the lab assistant why not take advantage of it by using him for the dev trials, now idk how people would feel about making all his unlockable tied to something harder than the oxide trials, but that's also why I though it should be dependent on the sets. Also for people who dont wanna do all of them they only have to get really good at 2 tracks to unlock him. And that would be the only mercy in that regard. Plus the dev times. The lab assistant. Seems appropriate...
@zikkeboi
@zikkeboi 4 жыл бұрын
It annoys me that you say the ghost are a joke, because there are a lot of newcomers to CTR and most of them that I have spoken to believe them to be a challenge. It's all down to practice and skill, but calling them a joke may only apply to some of the players. I can beat them quite easily, but calling yourself just above average is just incorrect. As en extra I must say I'd be down to developer times, but not to unlock Velo. A skin perhaps, but not a full character.
@benhughes3394
@benhughes3394 4 жыл бұрын
I gotta a bad feeling about this.
@oVioletValkyriex
@oVioletValkyriex 4 жыл бұрын
Developer times should at least hold fire and uturn for the entire race and ALL tracks. And the reward should be Emperor Velo so you can be one of the fastest in the galaxy.
@Mr_MachoGlobe
@Mr_MachoGlobe 4 жыл бұрын
Oxides electron avenue ghost can be lapped
@Mr_MachoGlobe
@Mr_MachoGlobe 4 жыл бұрын
I got 2:52:62 and oxide takes a minute / like 5 seconds to do a lap so it's a definite lapped oxide
@suqd674
@suqd674 4 жыл бұрын
Normies reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@geodude6244
@geodude6244 4 жыл бұрын
Why not add voice chat and friend invite system as well as add team racing cup boom ctr is 3 times better
@mitchellrichardcohen
@mitchellrichardcohen 4 жыл бұрын
They could have a maxed out stat class as an unlock instead
@flameslinger8820
@flameslinger8820 4 жыл бұрын
Forget Dragon mines... Turbo track is the worst one >
@wolfysnip6003
@wolfysnip6003 4 жыл бұрын
but Dragon Mines is Suffocating even if you dont use the passage
@flameslinger8820
@flameslinger8820 4 жыл бұрын
@@wolfysnip6003 true, i hate it for that. But at least it's not a middle finger of a track. Turbo track has nothing but turbo pads. Bright blue fire turbo pads... Then the middle of the track is nothing but sharp u turns in a ziggzag
@wolfysnip6003
@wolfysnip6003 4 жыл бұрын
@@flameslinger8820 oh, you got a point... Its really hard to master the zigzag part and so inconsistent.
@flameslinger8820
@flameslinger8820 4 жыл бұрын
@@wolfysnip6003 either way, we can't blame Beenox, they only added a fresh coat of paint
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