Eldrazi Unbound Upgrade - Improving the Precon Commander Deck with $100

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Guys That Magic

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Күн бұрын

What do you think of Zhulodok, Void Gorger?
$300 Upgrade: • Eldrazi Unbound Upgrad...
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In this video:
00:00 Intro
02:39 Additions
16:49 Removals
37:28 Outro

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@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
At the time of recording these additions came out to about $100, but as the deck is getting more attention some card prices are fluctuating.
@MoonBeast5
@MoonBeast5 11 ай бұрын
Honestly, I like Warping Wail. There aren't... any ways really to protect your whole board in colorless. I think the ability to stop most board wipes is worth it, considering the amount of mana it would take to rebuild.
@bobfranklin2572
@bobfranklin2572 11 ай бұрын
No way this guy took it out? Reading before watching
@erickxbayalarodriguez1816
@erickxbayalarodriguez1816 11 ай бұрын
I agree with this soo much
@kennethstagnolia7151
@kennethstagnolia7151 10 ай бұрын
And have we seen how many new creatures with 1 toughness have came out
@pando1520
@pando1520 10 ай бұрын
definitely
@jeangomes9781
@jeangomes9781 10 ай бұрын
Warping wall is a must have - it saved me from board wipes a few times with this deck
@geofferiswheel
@geofferiswheel 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update. There were definitely some cuts that made sense to take out.
@patmacrotch5611
@patmacrotch5611 11 ай бұрын
I followed yalls $300 upgrades, almosty exactly, for LOTR commander decks! Cant wait to see the $300 upgrades for eldrazi and sliver decks!
@mariusburger5934
@mariusburger5934 11 ай бұрын
Pretty much exactly what I have planned also adding Ugin the spirit dragon for more removal. I am def keeping warping wail in though to stop sorcery speed boardwipes
@nathaniellee6934
@nathaniellee6934 11 ай бұрын
Can't wait to get my hands on the deck I've been gathering all eldrazi upgrades ever since the decks were announced. Great video and I hope too see a further upgrade guide.
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
There will be a $300 list as well!
@nathaniellee6934
@nathaniellee6934 11 ай бұрын
@@GuysThatMagic Phenomenal
@ryangeiger5202
@ryangeiger5202 11 ай бұрын
Commander plate might be fun to add in. Great video by the way.
@jacksons9546
@jacksons9546 11 ай бұрын
I agree, I put that in all my colorless decks. My guess is it didn’t make the cut for this one bc it’s like 30 bucks
@nostngen2829
@nostngen2829 11 ай бұрын
warping wail is actually the best card to protect this deck against the worse thing that the deck has to handle: boardwipes. Also in the first turns is actually ramp if you need it.
@rogerrabbit132
@rogerrabbit132 11 ай бұрын
I was conflicted on which precon to preorder. I wanted to get either Eldrazi Unbound or Sliver Swarm, I ended up going with Sliver Swarm. But I will eventually get Eldrazi Unbound as well. I can't wait to see the upgrades for the Sliver Swarm precon as well.
@invaded1265
@invaded1265 11 ай бұрын
I'm excited for this!! can't wait to get my hands on it too
@andreaswurtzner9324
@andreaswurtzner9324 11 ай бұрын
I entirely agree with many of your creature choices. I will nonetheless direct attention to that cutting instant-speed interaction is very dangerous in a colorless deck. There is very little overall instant speed interaction that can be placed in the deck to replace what those cards contribute. Instead, I would encourage people to look at the creatures with mana cost below 7 (no interaction with the commander ability) and whether it is an idea to cut those and add more mana rocks. Perilous Vault (effectively a 9 mana exile all non-land permanents) will also have a massive impact on our own mana rocks, so alternatively it could be an idea to cut that and keep warping wail. We also have 15 wastes to play around with, which is way too many colorless lands without extra abilities. Cutting some of those for cheap colorless utility lands is usually the first upgrade that a lot of people tend to want to include.
@SonAlexander
@SonAlexander 9 ай бұрын
My first game with this deck, right out of the box, I hit 3 of the 4 X spells on my first 2 large spells that triggered cascade cascade... Instantly got cut when i went to upgrade this deck.
@anonymouswalrus107
@anonymouswalrus107 11 ай бұрын
Feel like warping wail is still good in this deck just because board wipes are sorceries.. vandalblast, farewell, astere command etc. colorless needs so much mana and relies on so much on artifact ramp that if you get wiped ur jus outta the game. Not to mention the best draw mechanics in the deck are also very high mana cost( Kozileks) Not that this card completely solves that but I feel like it’s come up enough.
@mattcarnelli6782
@mattcarnelli6782 10 ай бұрын
Adding more rocks that don’t produce colourless reduce your mana production from forsaken monument. Just a consideration for mid to later game
@brendanrobot1
@brendanrobot1 11 ай бұрын
Scroll rack is great for the face commander. You can set up your Cascades. Palantir of orthane good cheap card draw that people can mill you but they take damage to cmc. Commander plate is fun protection. Portal to phyrexia, ugin the spirt dragon. I know these are expensive 10$ and above but they can definitely work.
@kiraxbara456blitz6
@kiraxbara456blitz6 11 ай бұрын
Maybe in 300 dollars?
@johnnygamer23
@johnnygamer23 5 ай бұрын
Even after watching the professor's video that the Eldrazi Unbound deck isn't worth it... I'm still buying it, I get to play and start a Eldrazi colorless deck.😅
@counselorsgarden
@counselorsgarden 11 ай бұрын
For 85+ I better not have to upgrade a damn thing!
@andreasghazal5026
@andreasghazal5026 11 ай бұрын
warping wail ist amazing, dont cut it. you will counter most of the board wipes with it.
@jayolvera4930
@jayolvera4930 10 ай бұрын
can add urza's factory to the mana base as well, get another urza land for the workshop for $0.20
@VortexOmen1993
@VortexOmen1993 11 ай бұрын
Im surprised you didnt add basalt monolith. Considering the deck comes with forsaken monument
@OneFoxTwoFox
@OneFoxTwoFox 9 ай бұрын
4$ unwinding clock and you are off to the races. Especially with liberator or vendelkan orrery onboard. Add a lux cannon and a manifold key as a Goof.
@tonysmith9905
@tonysmith9905 11 ай бұрын
Insane that you're cutting Metalwork Colossus. Big things with reduced costs is EXACTLY what the deck wants, whether you're playing aggro or combo. This, Myr Enforcer, and Sojourner's Companion are by far the best cards in the deck because you can often make them free or nearly free 3 spells!
@usssztorm1410
@usssztorm1410 8 ай бұрын
It works only with a full artifact deck
@WestsideWally1
@WestsideWally1 11 ай бұрын
Something is wrong with the link.
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
Sorry about that! It's fixed now!
@jorgecrespoapastegui
@jorgecrespoapastegui 11 ай бұрын
There are some HUGE mistakes in the removals section. Warping wall is protection against board wipes and ugins mastery is card draw + cheat mana.
@DiscoDigi786
@DiscoDigi786 11 ай бұрын
I’d enjoy a video with your cuts. More content, the better!
@bobfranklin2572
@bobfranklin2572 11 ай бұрын
Why get rid of the only efficient removal spells in colourless?
@DuxBellorum13
@DuxBellorum13 11 ай бұрын
While I agree that Deceiver of Forms was one of my first thoughts for this deck. I do feel that people are sleeping on Ugins Mastery. As someone who plays alot of manefest cards in my morph deck the mechanic catches people off guard and anything allowing you to cheat the costs on your big creatures is worth it.
@pando1520
@pando1520 10 ай бұрын
plus its hand expansion so might as well
@jeffsonnefield6199
@jeffsonnefield6199 10 ай бұрын
I think Inventors Fair and Buried Ruin would be must have lands for this deck.
@ClaudeMoisan
@ClaudeMoisan 10 ай бұрын
Urza's factory would be a good add
@PlanJ117
@PlanJ117 4 ай бұрын
I just constructed a devastating Cascade Eldrazi deck.
@O.G.Alphaborn
@O.G.Alphaborn 9 ай бұрын
is myriad land scape in the deck? can only get 1 waste????
@joshuarichardson6585
@joshuarichardson6585 11 ай бұрын
Warping wail is to counter boardwipes
@ZOMBIEBRAINS69
@ZOMBIEBRAINS69 11 ай бұрын
By the time this video airs it will be the $300 upgrade lol
@hmmmhmmm5468
@hmmmhmmm5468 11 ай бұрын
5 Euro proxys 😮
@ZOMBIEBRAINS69
@ZOMBIEBRAINS69 11 ай бұрын
@@hmmmhmmm5468 I feel bad for the players who sit down and show off a proxied deck. Hobbies require time and effort , mpcfill is for the broke and noob players
@Lexgamer
@Lexgamer 11 ай бұрын
Warping Wail is for stopping board wipes (ex. Wrath of God). Spatial Contortion can let your commander with Commander's Plate 2 shot an opponent. Both instants can also help cheapen Emrakul, the Promised End. I also think Crucible of Worlds is mandatory. You're colorless, which means your creatures are big, you don't have a lot of spells, and most of your artifacts make mana, and all you have left is your lands, so you need some lands that can do spell-like things, most of which require being sacrificed.
@santiagovila4858
@santiagovila4858 11 ай бұрын
🎉 Yeeeees!!!
@user-ui2ml3ni6p
@user-ui2ml3ni6p 10 ай бұрын
Is cascade not a may ability
@L8RSTORM
@L8RSTORM 11 ай бұрын
no Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger wtf man
@Welverin
@Welverin 10 ай бұрын
Too expensive for a $100 upgrade.
@L8RSTORM
@L8RSTORM 10 ай бұрын
@@Welverin it just got a reprint
@von4031
@von4031 9 ай бұрын
Warping wail has saved me twice so far from board wipes.
@foramoreperfectamerica8490
@foramoreperfectamerica8490 11 ай бұрын
I run OG Sigarda because I don't want to deal with Annihilator.
@rook3930
@rook3930 27 күн бұрын
Does Eye of Ugin stop the Cascade of our commander if it brings the cost below 7?
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 27 күн бұрын
Cascade cares about the mana value of a card, regardless of how much you’re casting it for. So if you managed to cast a spell for free, cascade would trigger off how much the spell would have cost. Hope this helps!
@kevinwin95
@kevinwin95 7 күн бұрын
the decklist link you posted isnt the same deck as in the video. can you explain that?
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 6 күн бұрын
The list should be the same
@DailyDoseOfSean
@DailyDoseOfSean 11 ай бұрын
im so confused, 20 additions but only 19 removals? how is this commander legal
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
This was a mistake! Fellwar Stone was never added to the final list. See the decklist in the description for the full list. Sorry about that.
@stephenvance4867
@stephenvance4867 11 ай бұрын
Glad I'm not the only one who saw that. I was racking my brain, trying to figure out what I was missing.
@curtisd5864
@curtisd5864 11 ай бұрын
Hard agree on cutting Ugin’s Mastery tbh. Flipping means you don’t get cast/ETB triggers so instead of being able to double cascade into something you get a super weak creature that could MAYBE get flipped as a combat trick but you won’t get the annihilator trigger
@eewweeppkk
@eewweeppkk 11 ай бұрын
I will take a completely free titan that doesn't get its etb or attack trigger over paying the extra 10 mana, though. Besides the fact that it also doesn't remove any card advantage since you didn't need to cast anything I feel like you're looking a gift horse in the mouth. A totally free 10/10 is definitely worth it, at the very least it'll bait spot removal and at the most you just cheated out a titan. The very worst case scenario for Ugin's Mastery is that you get a 2/2 token every single time you cast a creature spell, and that isn't too bad by itself.
@CanadianDH
@CanadianDH 11 ай бұрын
Can you guys do the Sliver Commander deck next?
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
👀
@stefisac
@stefisac 10 ай бұрын
Nothing sucks more than to cascade into a mana sink such as endless one or stonecoil. Even a mana rock is better to cascade into. I personally run also akroma’s memorial, planar bridge and sculpting steel and managed to fit in the infinite mana combo made with basalt monolith and rings of brighthearth
@jazielcrespo5673
@jazielcrespo5673 11 ай бұрын
How about Darksteel forge + Mycosynth lattice to protect our board?
@EnmaMusicProduction
@EnmaMusicProduction 9 күн бұрын
You'd probably be dead by the time you cast those. Your aim with this deck is to atleast get off 1-2 triggers of Zhulodok and you need board presence asap. Added those in in my previous games well I died even before I got those off.
@MareczqZglos
@MareczqZglos 11 ай бұрын
Removing Warping Wail makes this deck wors not better. This is one of the really small number protection from Board Wipes, and Yes if you will have 2 or more big Eldrazi - board wipes will appear.... Ugins Mastery is really good card. After You add "more" good TOP ENDS, its even better... On top of that it can be "suprise" attack of 12/12 etc. Yes its not super synergestic with ouer deck, but i think its enought good to be here - better then most of the "small" costed Eldrazi you want to add (Smasher or Seer are really "meeeh" for EDH... ) . I agree that tap-lands are not great - but I would keep Mirrorpool - this is the best deck for its last ability. Sure You cannot coppy any legendary, but you still can copy other big ones, and you can copy "Rise of Eldrazi" :d Ps. I think its much more then 103$ now - some of the Eldrazi cards spike - like Eye of Ugin.
@stefanomandolini500
@stefanomandolini500 11 ай бұрын
When Will the 300 dollars upgrade be uploaded? Thanks
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
All of the 100 upgrades for each precon will be out first. You can expect the 300 videos to come out some time next week
@Dragonspirit223
@Dragonspirit223 9 ай бұрын
I'm really disappointed there isn't a Eldrazi commander that lets us use our Devoid creatures and cards. Just something that says 'if a spell has devoid on it, change its color identity to colorless' we have so many options that we just can't use because they *technically* have a color identity that isn't colorless.
@zSlumber
@zSlumber 11 ай бұрын
No precon battle for the $300 lotr upgrades?
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
Sorry it's being super delayed. We're currently having some technical issues with the edit. But it's still being worked on as we speak!
@thedicewizard
@thedicewizard 8 ай бұрын
As of October 18, 2023 the upgrades will run you around $220.
@xT1MOTHYx
@xT1MOTHYx Ай бұрын
RIP
@alexandrhilchenko4558
@alexandrhilchenko4558 2 ай бұрын
8 months pass. “100$ upgrade” Cries
@terancepickles
@terancepickles 11 ай бұрын
It's an interesting video, but there is no easy you are finding all of these cards for under/at $100 in the summer of 2023. Even finding them in stock is difficult.
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
At the time of recording all these additions came out to about 103 dollars. You should be able to find them on TCGplayer 👍
@terancepickles
@terancepickles 11 ай бұрын
@@GuysThatMagic it's cool. I understand. It's definitely over $150 right now. 😂
@brandonbattaglia8440
@brandonbattaglia8440 Ай бұрын
Why would you add Fellwar Stone when it’s a colorless deck? Why do you need colored mana?
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic Ай бұрын
Unless it shows a colorless mana symbol, any mana can be put into generic mana. Fellwar stone is one of the better mana rocks in the game.
@awookiefromendor
@awookiefromendor 6 ай бұрын
I’ve already lost a friendship with my incomplete build of this deck against a completed deck. Metal work is always free or near free and taking out free spells is dumb.
@thriftypsgr
@thriftypsgr 11 ай бұрын
I feel like this deck will not work well until turn 5/6. I love the but if most of the people I play with are setting up their win by turn 3/4. The deck feels slow I guess. Am I missing something
@thedead9282
@thedead9282 11 ай бұрын
When you play with 3 other people the slowness is not the problem.
@1SI69
@1SI69 11 ай бұрын
Then you play against cedh decks, which is not a problem of the eldrazi deck by itself, if you want to play with more varied decks, try playing with lower power tables
@itskmillz
@itskmillz 4 ай бұрын
yikes this deck is $366 now for the entire list! Too bad, it looks really fun
@ildanno1111
@ildanno1111 10 ай бұрын
you added 20 and removed 19, what else i could remove?
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 10 ай бұрын
This was a mistake. Fellwar Stone was not added to the final deck.
@ildanno1111
@ildanno1111 10 ай бұрын
@@GuysThatMagic thanks!
@savilopez8041
@savilopez8041 11 ай бұрын
One fairwell done deal😢
@hydrahead836
@hydrahead836 11 ай бұрын
Link to deck please
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
The link is in the description!
@akaikiseki9346
@akaikiseki9346 11 ай бұрын
warping wails is the goat, that decks will eat tons of wrath, and you get out the one card that just counters them ?... I don't approve that
@mitchellderepentigny1809
@mitchellderepentigny1809 7 ай бұрын
I love how in this video you add 20 cards (Fellwar Stone) and only take out 19 then in the $300 video you completely forget to mention that you added Fellwar stone lol. Also I know I'm late. P.S. I Love y'all's upgrade videos keep up the great work.
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 7 ай бұрын
This was an accident! Didn’t make it into either one of the final decks.
@mitchellderepentigny1809
@mitchellderepentigny1809 7 ай бұрын
@@GuysThatMagic wow I wasn't expecting a response from you guys let alone so fast. Thank you that is awesome. You guys make my favorite MTG content right now keep up the amazing work.
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 7 ай бұрын
Haha no problem! Always here to reply. Thanks for watching!
@giovannilozano4961
@giovannilozano4961 10 ай бұрын
Wait he added 20 and removed 19
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 10 ай бұрын
Sorry! Fellwar Stone never made the final cut and wasn’t supposed to be in the additions. Check the description for the full decklist!
@jimmyd404
@jimmyd404 11 ай бұрын
Pretty sure all of these cards have increased in price
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately due to the nature of how popular the deck is, the market prices have shifted since making the video.
@matthewlugo2417
@matthewlugo2417 11 ай бұрын
I feel like i should cancel my preorder and just buy the singles the need might be cheaper
@ethanhoffmann338
@ethanhoffmann338 11 ай бұрын
The singles will come down in price once the hype dies down, or when they inevitably do an eldrazi secret lair in the next little bit.
@jacksons9546
@jacksons9546 11 ай бұрын
I was disappointed in the original list. Colorless is my favorite “color” in magic and it had cool new spells but the amount of Eldrazi was pitiful given the name of the deck. So happy David took the deck in the proper tribal direction bc that’s how I’ll be building mine
@montanax8127
@montanax8127 11 ай бұрын
What's up with the crappy commons. Ulamogs Crusher...really? Pathrazer of Ulamog? What is this 2017?
@rjboot95
@rjboot95 9 ай бұрын
Why is there 19 removals and 20 adds
@GuysThatMagic
@GuysThatMagic 9 ай бұрын
This was a mistake. If you check the decklist in the description, fellwar stone never made it in the final list. Sorry!
@maikelmannes6866
@maikelmannes6866 11 ай бұрын
I would realy like to buy all this cards from you for 100 dollars 🤭
@unamusedrowlett6303
@unamusedrowlett6303 11 ай бұрын
$100!? bruh the deck already costed $100!! what are you talking about!!!!????
@AtlRopeGuy
@AtlRopeGuy 11 ай бұрын
Speed up the audio 10% across the video please.
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