ELECTRIC CHARGE - Beethoven "Pathetique" sonata Op. 13 mvt 3

ELECTRIC CHARGE - Beethoven "Pathetique" sonata Op. 13 mvt 3 - Analysis

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To close the Pathétique sonata, Beethoven writes a fast-paced Allegro in Rondo form. The theme is like static electricity, jumping between smaller objects, and throughout the movement we are treated to various adventures in the different episodes. As always your guide Henrik Kilhamn at the piano.
0:00 Introduction
0:38 Analysis
9:28 Sonata-Rondo form
Beethoven's "Pathetique" sonata in C minor series:
▶ Mvt 1: • ANGER MANAGEMENT - Bee...
▶ Mvt 2: • LONG LEGATO LINES - Be...
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Ludwig van Beethoven: Piano sonata no. 8 in C minor, Op. 13 "Pathétique", movement 3: Rondo: Allegro. Score: Peters edition, ca 1910, editor: Louis Köhler
Excerpt: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart: Piano sonata no. 8 in A minor, K.310
Score: Peters edition (ca 1938), editors Carl Adolf Martienssen & Wilhelm Weismann
📄 Scores available at: imslp.org
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@murielsimonet1071 3 жыл бұрын

The first time I like "emoticones"! Thanks from France

@rotsteineva 3 жыл бұрын

Very beautifully played (the whole Sonata). And very useful explanations as well! Thank you for sharing your talent with us. Greetings from Spain!

@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Eva, I appreciate it!

@user-bu4wg1ok5n 9 ай бұрын

I loved the whole analysis (first and second movements too). Beautifully played. I think I love this sonata more than any other music ever written.

@sergiooliveira2622 2 жыл бұрын

Very well explained and beautifully played indeed. All three movements. Congratulations from São Paulo.

@bayareaconsult4115 Жыл бұрын

I don’t get tired from watching your lessons 👏😍👍🙏 Merry Christmas and happy holiday to you

@DeflatingAtheism Жыл бұрын

1:40 - I like how you identify the “rhetorical device” of repeating the last part of the phrase- “did you hear what I said?” It’s important to note that in the repeat, he eliminates the grace notes, so the phrase strikes on the downbeat without hiccups or hesitations.

@caterscarrots3407 4 жыл бұрын

I think this is my favorite movement of the entire Pathetique Sonata. One of my favorite things about this rondo is the harmonic twist that Beethoven gets up to in the second B section. It almost sounds like Beethoven has done a Picardy Third(Minor key resolving to end in major), but one F# diminished seventh chord and it’s like he flips back to minor on a single chord. Beethoven also does pretty much the same thing in the recapitulation of the first movement of his Fifth Symphony, C major, almost like a Picardy Third when the second theme reappears, still in C major by the time the coda is reached and then Bam!💥 The diminished sevenths hit and it is flipped back to C minor.

@patbentolilarhythmking 3 жыл бұрын

I love the romantic side, very well explained!

@ai1888 4 жыл бұрын

This is incredible. Thanks for the analysis!

@sukholmes1066 Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@MARA610 4 жыл бұрын

Beethoven rocks! Great analysis.

@adrianehm 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed this informative video. Thanks for uploading!

@ericrakestraw664 2 жыл бұрын

The middle episode theme at 5:00 sort of foreshadows the fugue theme in the later A-flat Op. 110 sonata as well.

@alexfriedman7904 3 жыл бұрын

What a gem!

@all7509 4 жыл бұрын

Beautiful work.Thank you.

@pabloramirezdiaz7668 3 жыл бұрын

I played this Sonata a lot in my youth and it was very refreshing to hear it again so well played and analyzed. Thank you so much I enjoyed it a lot. Congratulations on the great content of your channel 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@sergioescuderoparedes4708 3 жыл бұрын

The best sonata ever!!!

@bobross6180 4 ай бұрын

Brilliant!

@karllegrand 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing your knowledge.

@mohammadbayazid5064 3 жыл бұрын

Great love it

@user-tw4sq1sv8v 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much from Kazakhstan!☺️

@SoulfulSpinning 2 жыл бұрын

Wonderful!

@margarethansen7480 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it a lot, always learning more with your explanations❤❤❤

@militaryandemergencyservic3286 2 жыл бұрын

BRILLIANT analysis! I feel you should have maybe just reminded people at 13:19 that this penultimate little bit is of course a reminder of the second movement again (before ending with a reminder of the angry first movement(! But you obviously expected us all to get that since you had already said that the a flat major episodes in this movement are reminders of the second movement.

@garydmcgath 4 жыл бұрын

You caught some resemblances to the previous movements which I'd never noticed before. To me, measures 5-6 of the third movement sound like a clear allusion to measures 5-6 of the second.

@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's yet another similarity, the same falling 5th again!

@wiktorworobiec5800 4 жыл бұрын

Great work, thank You so much for Your effort. Regards from Poland.

@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Wiktor. I was in Warsaw last summer actually to visit some great Polish friends of mine.

@ulfgj 2 жыл бұрын

underbart sätt att använda emotikons!

@user-jh8rx5ne8t 17 күн бұрын

7:56

@Guancion 3 жыл бұрын

How do you use the pedal in the entire song?

@SonataSecrets 3 жыл бұрын

I think I only have pedal when I have quarter notes or longer in RH, so no pedal for the shorter 8th notes to keep clarity.

@Guancion 3 жыл бұрын

@@SonataSecrets thank you

@PartySpock 2 жыл бұрын

Nice , but the third movement is /bach i the development👍👍

@opticalmixing23 3 жыл бұрын

I have this one slightly more difficult than moonlight

@TheLibrarianUU 2 жыл бұрын

Eek!

@AnaPaula-np5rq 3 жыл бұрын

Was Beethoven bipolar? First movement he was stressed, then kind, gentle and lastly happy.

@inioszi3053 Жыл бұрын

Beethoven was musician, dude. Music operates on multiple planes, so its common that you can experience a plethora of emotions and thoughts. It doesnt mean, that Bach was schizofrenic, Chopin depressed and Beethoven borderline

@alicemargatroidivii3287 3 жыл бұрын

This sounds like Septette for the dead princess Remilia Theme from the start~

@caterscarrots3407 4 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or does your fortissimo sound quieter than your forte while your piano dynamic sounds like forte? Because when I do a Beethoven fortissimo, I go all out in arm weight and I can hear it as clearly being louder than my forte. Mozart and I have to have a more delicate touch while getting the same dynamic. Is your piano drowning out your microphone in this video or what?

@SonataSecrets 4 жыл бұрын

Well, it might by the audio mix dynamic processing - compressing the loud and expanding the soft slightly to be more steady overall. I find it hard to get that balance right because it should be possible to watch on a mobile device with worse sound as well as a computer with good speakers. The dynamic spectrum is only fully perceptible in a live situation really. But there's also the fact that in the fortissimo scales (the fortissimo passages in this piece), Beethoven only writes one single voice very high up over one octave in the bass - it's hard to get a louder sound with that voicing. And finally It's also possible to have different interpretative ideals as well of course ;)

@caterscarrots3407 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I guess it’s possible that you and I have different interpretations of dynamics. For me, it only really becomes noticeable at forte, but it differs by composer. Beethoven - very intense, a lot of arm weight, very little subtlety to the motions Mozart and Chopin - more delicate touch to the intensity than the all out intensity of Beethoven, more wrist based than arm based, Subtler hints at the intensity, primarily arm based would be for dynamics past fortissimo. Whereas you might be more along that "every fortissimo is the same in piano repertoire"

@caterscarrots3407 4 жыл бұрын

And I’ve had dynamic problems in my recordings from the piano drowning out the microphone, so that’s why I asked. Very few of my recordings are on KZfaq partly because of that.