Electrical Audio How-To: Mid-Side (M-S) Recording

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Electrical Audio How-To: Mid-Side (M-S) Recording

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3 жыл бұрын

A demonstration and explanation of mid-side stereo recording from Greg Norman.
www.electricalaudio.com
Video by Jeff Perlman, da best.

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@ckaras100 3 жыл бұрын

“Alright dip shit start playing” pan to Steve Albini playing drums🤣🤣🤣. This is my new favorite audio channel🤘

@kevinfrieden7929 3 жыл бұрын

The ending as well.. xD

@jeroddunn 3 жыл бұрын

I came to say the same thing

@RanceChampion 3 жыл бұрын

He totally nailed being a drummer by playing while someone's trying to talk

@K.J.734 3 жыл бұрын

Same (just subbed) P.S. Thanks KZfaq algorithm! 🎯

@K.J.734 3 жыл бұрын

@@RanceChampion 🤣😂🤣 🤘🥁🤘

@duranjerome 2 жыл бұрын

This is hands down some of the most informative audio engineering content on KZfaq. It's college level thinking for free... Electrical Audio ladies and gentlemen

@Rompler_Rocco 3 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, it's only when these guys post tutorials that I realize nothing else on KZfaq is _actually_ funny.

@Rompler_Rocco 2 жыл бұрын

Holy shit, me from seven months ago, maybe you should've been learning instead of giggling. Future you nearly just purchased TWO identical figure 8 mics for no good reason! 🤦‍♂️ ...and hey, while I'm here: DON'T LIFT AND TWIST!!!! Guess who has no insurance and ends up looking like an asshole every day at work hobbling around on a cane?!? 🤬

@soupalex 2 жыл бұрын

@@Rompler_Rocco damn! really sorry to hear that. wish the u.s. healthcare system wasn't completely fucked all to shit… i did a number on my back through poor lifting form some years ago (luckily not _too_ severe, and i got access to physiotherapy and meds on the nhs, because britbong. just as well, bc there's no way i would have been able to afford treatment on my warehouse worker wage otherwise). take care, and i hope you're on the mend (or at least have found a use for that spare fig-8!)

@kyleurban5102 3 жыл бұрын

Greg's spirit animal is the EA carpeted brick.

@davewestner 3 жыл бұрын

Man, that drummer is AWESOME. What feel. What a sound. Heck, you don't even need mics to record this guy. He just sounds that great

@williamdewolfe1813 3 жыл бұрын

I always appreciate the passionate stoicism in these instructionals.

@LaterHolmes 3 ай бұрын

R.I.P. Steve Albini. This video in particular helped me, and his music inspired me.

@robertgarza466 3 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna send KZfaq a Christmas card for putting this video in my recommendations. What a great technique and demo. Thanks for the video and the laughs.

@YHRS 3 жыл бұрын

Evil Steve banging away at the drums during the intro was the highlight of my day today.

@ThisGuyDude 2 ай бұрын

I've been recently exploring mid-side recording with outboard hardware stuff and this is the most practical and informative context I've yet encountered after slamming through tons of other videos. Thank you very much, you've grown my knowledge by tons.

@chrishepburn1503 3 жыл бұрын

This guy must be a blast to record with 😂

@maarmosetjoe 3 жыл бұрын

greg norman is the fucking man.

@fender666gh 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone who doesnt wanna record with Greg should be glad they'll never get the chance

@squeekywheelmc6736 3 жыл бұрын

Greg is a great engineer and a terrific hang. Always my first choice.

@chearthur 3 жыл бұрын

actually, he is.

@K.J.734 3 жыл бұрын

The 2 of them! 😂❗

@gkniffen 3 жыл бұрын

“Dingleberry.” This guy knows his audio terminology.

@mrNobody100 3 жыл бұрын

i feel like i learned more about mic technique from this video than i did a whole semester of recording class at community college. neat.

@CaliberFiftyVideos 2 жыл бұрын

Oh my, I did not expect that exit! This kind of How-To video is the exact style the world needs.

@RecordingStudio-pg9zr 2 жыл бұрын

Ok, we're loving your tutorials guys. Much love.

@icaru920 3 жыл бұрын

I am soo happy to see you uploading. Please keep them coming, love you guys.

@Kvelertax 3 жыл бұрын

I love this funny style of how to videos, thank you! Keep em coming!

@chaz32 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I needed to learn about for my next home recording project - thanks!

@sharonedigitale 8 ай бұрын

I am so glad I found you guys.🧡

@Auxend 3 жыл бұрын

I’m here for this - you just made my year! 2020 was worth it! - in all seriousness- good to see you guys back at it! Much love and good vibes (phase corrected of course)

@emiromeroonkeys 3 жыл бұрын

This is the best channel about audio recording that I ever saw!!

@universalpunk 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing your knowledge! This is accessible and informative! Much appreciated!

@HollywoodRecordingStudio Жыл бұрын

This is one of my favorite channels on recording, and this particular episode was. Super- informative and entertaining.

@Fusionjams Ай бұрын

1st time I watch your tutorial.... really helpful...you've gained yourself a subscriber

@carlosdelgado7054 3 жыл бұрын

You guys did it again...immensely educational and had me also fall off my chair laughing my ass off. Electrical Audio Rules!

@joshuacedars8849 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for explaining about the "right/left-leaning" effect. I was hearing that in my recordings and could tell why it was happening. This is the first place I've seen it explained. Thanks!

@planzed463 2 жыл бұрын

Love you guys!! Only found you recently but you delivery style & info are awesome 👌🏼😂 thank you!

@jarcau_vegan 3 жыл бұрын

3:41 - I like the way people from Electrical Audio look at things, and also what they explain about them. Thank you!! 🍀

@nathanielnicholson559 3 жыл бұрын

Good, great, grand!! This is awesome. Learned something, I did. Now to see if my room cooperates with this sorcery!!

@jtsotherone 3 жыл бұрын

These are getting better and better each time, but I would appreciate it if you set the dry sarcasm pot all the way to 'arid Sahara' please.

@noesunyoutuber7680 2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't already?

@richardvancleaf469 3 жыл бұрын

Yes sir this is my new favorite technique. As he says, "very natural" and makes my untreated room sound fairly okay.

@FoxUncleCharlieKing 7 ай бұрын

Finally just tried this and it sounded amazing. It was a very accurate stereo image. Thanks again to all at EA for these.

@Newgrassrock 3 жыл бұрын

This is the funniest shit. I’ve learned so much. I’m going to go listen to Make Believe’s Of Course now. Thanks Greg and Steve!

@houdinistree 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video!! Super helpful and fun to watch!

@thomlawrence5458 3 жыл бұрын

Love this channel, keep them coming!

@K.J.734 3 жыл бұрын

You dudes rock. This is only the 2nd vid I've seen so far ( I just subscribed about 45 mins ago after seeing the 1st vid.) You guys are great instructors & I love the content. That opening tho...🤘😂🤣😂❗

@marcdanielnelson317 3 жыл бұрын

Greg builds my favorite MIc Pre.

@yoyolebatteur 2 жыл бұрын

That drum kit is gorgeous.

@meowanderson2189 3 жыл бұрын

thanks! i've always had trouble understanding this until now

@codymeng1580 3 жыл бұрын

This is the funniest mic positioning video ever and really informational

@joelluth6384 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reading my mind when deciding what videos to make

@PHELCAN 3 жыл бұрын

Super informative and well made video. This rules.

@ChrisBrideauMedia 3 жыл бұрын

I love the Jumpman Jr sounds efx while switching mics.

@sirdoufus 3 жыл бұрын

Beautifully explained.

@FrankTheAranda 3 жыл бұрын

I loved this. Please do more!!

@lucamess6191 3 жыл бұрын

this might be the best channel ever

@Wyatt-Barton 3 жыл бұрын

Man I've been testing consoles for a while now and to test the phase switch I do the same thing to cancel one channel out when they are at equal attenuation but never thought of using it to get my side mics equal like that Great Tip!

@paulbruce4630 3 жыл бұрын

This is the guy who recorded the wedding present album take fountain. Fantastic record. Great engineer. No phase issues. 👍👍

@Salantsoundstudios 3 жыл бұрын

Beautiful explanation!

@beyondthegong 3 жыл бұрын

These videos are amazing

@bundr 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent content. Thank you!!

@bunnyadrian 3 жыл бұрын

It's so exciting to get these videos from the owner of Studio Greg Studios!

@ElectricalAudioOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention Studio Greg Studios 2, and Studio Greg Studios: The Ride

@bunnyadrian 3 жыл бұрын

Second place coment, "the guy who ruined fire"

@gregnorman1489 3 жыл бұрын

I was on loan.

@realSethMeyers 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricalAudioOfficial The Novelization Of The Movie Adaptation Of Studio Greg Studios!

@ElectricalAudioOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

@@realSethMeyers Someone get Simon and Schuster on the horn.

@i.shadrin 2 жыл бұрын

best ms tutorial in the history of humanity

@michaelkelly6789 Жыл бұрын

Great video guys! cheers

@thechuckster6838 2 ай бұрын

Lots of valuable info here, gents. Thanks for sharing.

@md.shamimreza5064 3 жыл бұрын

Super videos and explanation

@sonicart1808 2 ай бұрын

😆😆😆😆😆 brilliant explanation with hilarious comedy, what more can you ask for....

@SubjektAudio 3 жыл бұрын

Wonderfully awkward. Surprisingly insightful. Thanks guys.

@ricardoleandrooliveira9920 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot from Brasil. Have no idea if it was the case or not but love the sound of "title tk drums"

@cyberbandleipzigjams4493 3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha, that intro! Love you guys - thanks for doing this!

@VIERIX Ай бұрын

Man, Steve totally nailed Lars’ vibe on Master of Puppets 🎯

@OUT5IDE_ 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for this very usefull course. Could we have a full gig video of this great drummer of yours ??!

@Kizamime 3 жыл бұрын

Came here for the info, subscribed for the humor. Love it lmao

@justinbuit1338 3 жыл бұрын

Great video!

@JJBMusic0 3 жыл бұрын

This was awesome thank you

@LeonardoVarasGuerrero 2 жыл бұрын

Nice info. And nice weird humor. I loved it!

@onosnd 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome. Thank you!

@BalkunDrummer 3 жыл бұрын

Hell yes! Albini on the cymbal catches!

@jahidhassan3855 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic

@TravisHY 3 жыл бұрын

Sweet pole dancing Christ, I am so glad Greg Norman finally gave up the golf and wine bullshit and started fucking around with ribbon mics. It's a much better Greg Norman than the previous one.

@lowlink534 Жыл бұрын

That's very interesting. I like recording my drums with a single SM57 between the bass and the snare drum. It gives me a great sound for those 2 main drums and the hihat, but my crash cymbal and the low mounted tom are to the right, so they sound very quiet. Adding a microphone to pic them up really balanced the sound of the kit, but I wish there was more stereo (I don't really wanna put my kick and snare on a single side lol). Just reading the title of this video gave an idea to try and use mid side, with the main mic as the mid and the auxiliar one as the side, I'm hoping it will sound great (I guess it makes sense the crash and the tom to the side to have the most width, in my head). Gonna try that next time I record!

@jamesdoctor8079 3 жыл бұрын

excellente gentlemen

@JMLRecording 2 жыл бұрын

The “cardiod dingleberry” bwahahhha!!!! Love it. You know, I’ve been thinking, all this M/S talk about “if for some reason you need to sum in mono”… like…. When? When do consumers ever listen to music in mono?? Earbuds, cans and car speakers are 99% playback formats Love the neotek btw. Got some racked channel strips of that console and they slay

@ElectricalAudioOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

A lot of cell phones, alarm clock radio, broadcast radio with poor reception, some streaming situations...

@gregnorman1489 2 ай бұрын

In mixing. If you've recorded an instrument like a piano, or guitar in stereo, then need to pan it like a mono track for the mix, the two channels sum together perfectly, eliminating the "side" mic.

@JMLRecording 2 ай бұрын

@@gregnorman1489 of course. This is obvious and even many plugins force a stereo field on mono tracks but I meant specifically those who mix entire final mixes in Mono. Electrical Audio Official's answer is a great one though. Good points all around. Thanks

@isettech 2 жыл бұрын

The Zoom H6 field recorder contains a capsule with the mid side mic in a small capsule with very close orientation for very little time delay phase shifting. The side mic is bi-polar for excellent stereo pickup. The recorder has the processing matrix for generating stereo, or mid side channels. This is excellent for stereo for video or FM broadcast as Mono and L-R side is direct from the recorder.

@NormanBaatz 2 жыл бұрын

Same for the Shure MV88+. You can choose to record the raw MS signal and decode it yourself or have the DSP take care of it, and you get to set some parameters.

@simonedeangelis 3 жыл бұрын

amazing!

@cyb3rk3v 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely gonna try this on drums in the Daw.

@HarshTonesInc 2 ай бұрын

My audio professor in college used to say "M-S" stood for "Maybe Stereo" hahaha

@jahidimran4209 3 жыл бұрын

Very good

@kirkegodfrey414 3 жыл бұрын

Informative and droll. HOO YEAH.

@hoborec 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I need to do more m/s room miking. Maybe a blumlein vs m/s coming up 😲

@Kristofergoeransson 3 жыл бұрын

😂 Great video as always! Keep em coming!

@enochporch 2 жыл бұрын

OMG this is the best

@emonshariyar4155 3 жыл бұрын

Nice videos 👌👌

@Mt84290 3 жыл бұрын

The intro 😂😂. Immediately Subscribed!

@squagel6356 3 жыл бұрын

Again, awesome video and tips. A tape machine comparision would be great. Otari mx5050 vs Studer A820 24trk vs 16trk vs Tascam vs MCI? I think I saw a Tascam ms-16 in another video from you and a couple years ago you also offer recording on MCI 8 Track. Hearing the difference, hiss, thickness etc. would be very interesting, also facts like spooling time, effort to maintain... thank you and stay healthy

@ElectricalAudioOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

We borrowed the 16-track Tascam for transfers, and the MCI we sold a few years ago. We've standardized on Studet A820s because they're incredibly well-engineered, sound neutral, are great on tape, and have auto-calibration, so they allow us to maintain the standard of calibrating for every session while requiring way less time to do so. Those are the criteria one should consider when choosing a machine. The MX5050 8-track we also just use for transfers.

@soulslip 5 ай бұрын

I love how after being drowned out by Steve’s drumming, he is staring directly into the bass drum hole 😂 hahaha

@weltron555 8 ай бұрын

"Alight dipshit, start playing." Best moment

@goodrob13 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, this was great. I learned something new. Can you make a video comparing Mid-Side to other stereo mic techniques like XY? I'd love to hear the difference in how the drums sound.

@ElectricalAudioOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

It would be tricky to compare mid-side to XY because mid-side inherently leaves some decisions up to the engineer, namely, how wide to make the stereo image (the balance between the "mid" and the "side").

@goodrob13 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricalAudioOfficial Good point. You're right, they're two completely different techniques. Do you have a preference?

@druckiplutnik342 Жыл бұрын

The very last scene of this video was Twin Peaks- like! The Alchemy, Transformation. Great!

@Micahtmusic 2 жыл бұрын

i’m furious he did this editing style before i could think of it lol

@simonirvine1628 3 жыл бұрын

Very Good Lad's

@dubsteppa420 3 жыл бұрын

well it looks like someone got a new camera for Christmas!

@ElectricalAudioOfficial 3 жыл бұрын

Jeff Perlman has all that gear and has shot and edited the last handful of videos we've made. He's fantastic. Also responsible for a lot of the humor.