Jetoptera's Bladeless Propulsion System

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Electric Aviation

Electric Aviation

3 жыл бұрын

In this video we will be looking at Jetoptera's Bladeless Propulsion System that utilizes fluid induction.
There are several advantages of doing this specially in conjunction with boxwings.
At present Fluidics propulsion system will utilize GE aviation gas turbine but it can use an electric turbine as well.

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@derrickstableford8152
@derrickstableford8152 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting concept, I wonder if this could be applied to boats, with an electric fan. I’m thinking particularly to the small dingy and kayak/ trolling sectors where hands and animals proliferate.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 3 жыл бұрын
That is actually a very good idea. I am sure people looking at submarine propulsion would be extremely interested and even boats
@RoadTripTravel
@RoadTripTravel 3 жыл бұрын
Good question about boats.
@timothygooding9544
@timothygooding9544 3 жыл бұрын
another thing to look into is how large ships also pump air under themselves to reduce drag, could be really interesting Also for a kayak you could probably test it with a 3d-printed set of parts, would love to see that become a reality
@Cythil
@Cythil 3 жыл бұрын
Pump-jet on watercraft have quite a few similarities.
@skydancer2992
@skydancer2992 3 жыл бұрын
Tom Clancy wrote about such a submarine drive in The Hunt for Red October, in the 80's.
@garyz777
@garyz777 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this very well made short documentary on this vehicle. It's a beautiful craft and I hope it becomes a reality. I think it's my favorite design for a personal flying machine so far.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@trapperjohn6089
@trapperjohn6089 2 жыл бұрын
Saint Rutan watches over all canard aircraft. 🙏🏻
@michaelhouse7775
@michaelhouse7775 Жыл бұрын
I'm with you,this is the best looking personal craft I have seen so far. Would love to do the test flight in it.
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 3 жыл бұрын
It will be interesting to see how the thrust-to-weight ratio works out for the full-scale, manned and fully-equipped aircraft.
@WilliamRNicholsonLST-1195
@WilliamRNicholsonLST-1195 2 жыл бұрын
In other words you want your fat mother in law to be a test pilot just to make sure lighter loads can be carried with a HUGE margin of safety ?
@pauld6967
@pauld6967 2 жыл бұрын
@@WilliamRNicholsonLST-1195 As the old saying goes: better safe than sorry. I proudly state that I am Old School and reject the new-fangled 'Risk Assessment' approach for the tried & true 'Risk Avoidance' approach.
@got2kittys
@got2kittys 2 жыл бұрын
This might make an interesting motorcycle drive system. Very inexpensive compared to a geared system.
@jakehix8132
@jakehix8132 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauld6967 Watching the 6 month planned Inspiration4, which set numerous records for humanity, implemented quite a few large-scale never-done-before changes... like the Cupola in place of docking capabilities, gave me a new found respect for the modern way.
@mechanomics2649
@mechanomics2649 2 жыл бұрын
@@pauld6967 lmao what are you talking about? Firstly, risk assessment and risk avoidance are fundamentally the same, they avoid unnecessary risk. Secondly, there's no reason for safety to not progress on the principal of clinging to obsolete tradition. You're welcome to stay in the past if you want to, that comes at the expense of innovation and progress. The rest of the world will be just fine moving on without you. It's always weird to see someone who would rather kneecap themselves over tradition that has little to no value. Pride is a strange thing.
@none941
@none941 2 жыл бұрын
You explain this so well, I'm rooting for them to succeed!
@ericcruz9167
@ericcruz9167 2 жыл бұрын
I just found your channel yesterday & I'm EXTREMELY IMPRESSED with the amount of technical knowledge you're able to squeeze into a 10 -20 minute presentation. I hope you'll be coming out with new material soon because I'm almost through all of your videos, lol. Keep up the outstanding work please...
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard! and thank you son much. With the amount of research that goes into every video, its difficult for me to churn them out every week. I can do videos every fortnight
@spinnymathingy3149
@spinnymathingy3149 3 жыл бұрын
I’m strapping a few Dyson hairdryers on my belt, just watch me fly
@Ben7seven7
@Ben7seven7 3 жыл бұрын
Let me know if that idea takes off. 😁
@richarddombakly413
@richarddombakly413 3 жыл бұрын
Spinny you are a sick puppy ,let me know if it works
@robinpaul7268
@robinpaul7268 3 жыл бұрын
YA, I'm looking at my Dyson fan right now, cool beans
@mrgee918
@mrgee918 3 жыл бұрын
I'm only here to see if I can use this tech on my eboard.
@greekkidshows9373
@greekkidshows9373 3 жыл бұрын
@Muckin 4on haha Your not working fancy electronic crap nearly burnt your house down 3 phase brushless motors should be ancient and I am also amazed that a Chinese company hasn't......
@SoHBetaSword
@SoHBetaSword 3 жыл бұрын
Basically Dyson-Ventilators and Hairdryers as a Propulsion-System, a lot safer for Birds and IndianaJones' Villains.
@bioswars8827
@bioswars8827 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, That's the basics, they just use wordplay.
@mason2699
@mason2699 3 жыл бұрын
yeah they dont have to worry about getting shredded by a propeller blade but still have to worry about getting hit by a plane going 300 mph
@zakofrx
@zakofrx 3 жыл бұрын
@@mason2699 I would guess that the forces of going though would lead to death..
@jonibeYT
@jonibeYT 3 жыл бұрын
Birds would probably be ripped apart by the high pressure air. Also the compressor needs some kind of intake.
@GrzegorzDurda
@GrzegorzDurda 3 жыл бұрын
So more ducted fans using bypass air. Nothing new under the sun.
@tamasmihaly1
@tamasmihaly1 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful and passionate. You are a good speaker, sir. Your love of the subject shines through.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@Wombat-blue
@Wombat-blue 2 ай бұрын
Haha!!!
@thomasclord7349
@thomasclord7349 2 жыл бұрын
THIS GUY IS SO SO SMART HE CAN EXSPLAIN TO PEOPLE HOW STUFF WORKS THAT ARNT AS EDUUCATED AS ENGINEERS THAT TAKES INTELLIGENCE
@dangoodswen4367
@dangoodswen4367 4 ай бұрын
Exactly - we all have different speeds and styles of learning. Simplest is always best - for everyone.
@stevemoog3740
@stevemoog3740 2 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of using drones to scale up to a full size model. Reminds me of the movie flight of the Phoenix. A model airplane engineer is still accountable for all the same Elements for flight, same as a full size plane. Great work and I’d love to ride in one soon.
@catchnkill
@catchnkill Жыл бұрын
It seems that certification for human flight is super difficullt. There has been quite a few flying taxi projects. So far none has been granted human flight certification. None even from China, Dubai or Singapore. It has a long long road ahead.
@automaticreply
@automaticreply Жыл бұрын
@@catchnkill sounds like a conspiracy..."big air" is keeping us in a tube with the masses. 😆
@eldjr1104
@eldjr1104 3 жыл бұрын
Bernoulli's ghost nods and smiles
@Rivenburg-xd5yf
@Rivenburg-xd5yf 3 жыл бұрын
i would have thought coanda.
@richardcarew4708
@richardcarew4708 3 жыл бұрын
coandah worked on the outside.. Bernouli worked inside a manifold.. but they are the same ideas derived from observations.. and measurements.. science is all about measuring the Universe we live in.. if you don't see the math It's not science.. ...
@richardcarew4708
@richardcarew4708 3 жыл бұрын
now.. think about a personal sized dirigible.. can land anywhere, even water.. with solar cells printed on the skin.. and a neutral buoyancy from helium... with palladium instead of aluminum.. it's almost impossible to melt as AuPd.. lighter than aluminum.. stronger than steel... steel has a density of 7.7.. palladium starts as 8.8.. it's like plastic steel.. mixed with gold... and it is definitely lighter than aluminum and I am not sure how .. it's a measurable phenomenon that happens each time I make AuPd
@richardcarew4708
@richardcarew4708 3 жыл бұрын
it's not rare or hard to find... it's going to Change the World
@richardcarew4708
@richardcarew4708 3 жыл бұрын
first up.. palladium foil 1m³ helium balloons .. many.. and a 7.5 m² parachute to hold them together.. silk and shellac create a very strong bio plastic for the outside... and.. the pilot seat.. to see what happens... I am working on it now
@richarda.valdes1197
@richarda.valdes1197 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful design using current technology and improving it. The narrator’s description of how it works creates a want to learn more.
@zowon1
@zowon1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very clear explanation of the engineering involved in this craft. I'm just a layman and this video kept me captivated from beginning to end! Beautiful craft. I do wish this company much success with it! Reminded me of Bladerunner!
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
You are very welcome
@corrupt_reverend5123
@corrupt_reverend5123 3 жыл бұрын
You're a very good presenter. Took an interesting but complex subject, and really broke it down into something really understandable. Great video my dude! :)
@dandapper2397
@dandapper2397 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Are you saying that to make him feel better about his thick Indian accent that is hard to understand?
@ocker2000
@ocker2000 3 жыл бұрын
Propulsion and laminar flow are the keys to success here. Wishing them lots of success in further development and scaling up of this concept that promises 50 percent less fuel!
@georise922
@georise922 3 жыл бұрын
Laminar flow were used for some WW2 fighters so...
@kazedcat
@kazedcat 3 жыл бұрын
How can you have laminar flow when you need highly compress air jet mixing with ambient air to generate flow induction? This is nonsense they are just stringing together buzzwords to fool investors.
@andreasdinkelacker6729
@andreasdinkelacker6729 3 жыл бұрын
@David S. both laminar flow and turbulators were developed simultaneously. Both seem to have dropped into the background
@fred1boot
@fred1boot 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite aspect of this video is how you broke down and explained the technology. Very well done! Thank you!
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@phil5569
@phil5569 2 жыл бұрын
Simple and elegant... hopefully it will work and come to market soon. That bladeless propulsion looks like magic to me. What amazing minds to discover this technology. BRILLIANT!
@GCguru
@GCguru 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and well written. This tech is something totally new to me and I've been in the biz quite a while. I'd love to see more videos on detailed thruster fluidics and other applications.
@DANTHETUBEMAN
@DANTHETUBEMAN Жыл бұрын
This is the Most Exciting Futuristic Airplane Design I have seen yet, it seems to have so much going for it. these Designers are so smart 🤓.
@sgtpvtltd5957
@sgtpvtltd5957 2 жыл бұрын
Jet Octera is really a great invention over the centuries.I believe it will build a highly technical change in Aircraft Aviation in coming days.Bravo !!!
@Slowly_Going_Mad
@Slowly_Going_Mad 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice too see them doing what I had wondered about. Using 'blade-less' lifter engines. I think they will stand well for low velocity cruiser aircraft.
@addisonlanier4226
@addisonlanier4226 2 жыл бұрын
As a sub contract industrial designer in Calgary I had a brief pleasure of working on a few components of Apteras electric car. It also uses Laminar surface tech, The look is very much of the same designers so I'm betting heavily its the same visionaries. Congratulations and I hope your strategy for business gets you there faster, into your rightful place in history. First place conceptually.
@bassraf
@bassraf 2 жыл бұрын
Great level of detail on your explanations, great to see someone actually go beyond the superficial marketing blah blah!
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@tomconner5067
@tomconner5067 2 жыл бұрын
It was also used in aerospace technology as a thrust augmentor, drawing outside air into the rocket exhaust gas stream, cooling and condensing the flow, increasing the mass, and exponentially improving the propulsion efficiency
@cmw12
@cmw12 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating, promising concept brilliantly presented. Thanks for the info!
@geoffreyrenc1096
@geoffreyrenc1096 3 жыл бұрын
Sublime combination of form with function. Beautiful alternative to bladed drones. Dyson should sponsor this magnificent craft.
@jessepollard7132
@jessepollard7132 Жыл бұрын
Too bad it doesn't work as described.
@myothersoul1953
@myothersoul1953 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, your explanations are clear and easy to follow without being handwavy
@goandsee
@goandsee Жыл бұрын
An excellent description of fluidics, very clear. I share your hope that we will see this vehicle put into production.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation Жыл бұрын
I hope so too!
@bujoun76
@bujoun76 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of the coolest videos I have ever watched on KZfaq...
@oskary2833
@oskary2833 2 жыл бұрын
So I take it you have never seen many youtube videos
@johnterpack3940
@johnterpack3940 2 жыл бұрын
I watched that other guy market his "flying car" for a few decades. I always laughed at it because it was basically a helicopter. This design is actually innovative and gives me cause for optimism. I wouldn't call it a "flying car" because it doesn't look at all suitable for driving around town. But as a door-to-door mode of long-distance travel it looks to be phenomenal. It would give me the ability to randomly visit family 900 miles away without the need for planning, taking time off work, or dealing with airports.
@theaveragepro1749
@theaveragepro1749 Жыл бұрын
its still an aircraft so you would have to plan and deal with airports and controlled airspaces
@darrelldiaz
@darrelldiaz 3 жыл бұрын
Very good description of how the system works. Thank you!
@ianstobie
@ianstobie 2 жыл бұрын
2:35 the blade in the "bladeless" design! This channel is so much better than the usual breathless hype these topics attract.
@fredford7642
@fredford7642 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I look forward to hearing more about this concept. The idea of a more simple VITOL craft is needed. The viability of the small electric craft makes it quite interesting and makes it more financially viable. I really hope this development works. It is easy for those with a negative mind to sit there and say it won't work, but developers like this need as much encouragement as possible...... Keep going Jetoptera!
@Kamel419
@Kamel419 2 жыл бұрын
Exceptional video! I've never seen this channel until today, but was elated to find that although you have an accent the content was very good. I've seen people with accents believe they can never do things like KZfaq because of it, but I think videos like yours are proof that it's all about the quality of the content.
@kylewilkinson6975
@kylewilkinson6975 2 жыл бұрын
Duh... We all have accents. Why couldn't he be successful?
@That_Freedom_Guy
@That_Freedom_Guy Жыл бұрын
You may invent the first subsonic ramjet engine if you keep experimenting like that! Very elegant design. You are onto something, I am sure. Then there is the shark-eat-shark world of business! I wish you well Sir. 🙏
@solomonjenkins9505
@solomonjenkins9505 2 жыл бұрын
the single most impressive thing I've ever seen, period.
@sirskullington9213
@sirskullington9213 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t get out much?
@claudenewbolt2659
@claudenewbolt2659 3 жыл бұрын
I LIKE TO SEE MORE OF THIS JETOPTERA'S BLADELESS PROPULSION SYSTEMS!
@Bleeto
@Bleeto 3 жыл бұрын
then you should do more research on it or work for the company
@unitrobe0
@unitrobe0 3 жыл бұрын
USING AS MANY CAPITAL LETTERS IN YOUR COMMENTS ALWAYS HELPS YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT. ADDING AN EXCLAMATION MARK WAS A NICE TOUCH TOO! WAY TO GO!
@norisarabio7307
@norisarabio7307 3 жыл бұрын
Or watch that guy the fly with 4 of this engines attached to his hands which btw weights 10x times more thant a paper plane .. lol research
@Bleeto
@Bleeto 3 жыл бұрын
@@norisarabio7307 what are you talking about?
@hohum_3001
@hohum_3001 2 жыл бұрын
TOTALLY AGREED @@unitrobe0 ! S O M E T I M E S I E V E N L I K E T O M I X I T U P A L I T T L E B I T F O R E X T R A E M P H A S I S ; H A V E Y O U T R I E D T H A T ? ! ! !
@samnelson3526
@samnelson3526 3 жыл бұрын
This is super cool, I'm really rooting for them
@johno9507
@johno9507 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 'Rooting' in Australian English has a VERY different meaning! (It means to have sex) 😂🇦🇺
@ronaldharris6569
@ronaldharris6569 3 жыл бұрын
It's a fake
@luisderivas6005
@luisderivas6005 3 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldharris6569 Fake is a bit rough; I'd say mock up. The only thing visibly flying well is the model powered by ducted fans.
@mrpicky1868
@mrpicky1868 3 жыл бұрын
just as concept.
@mrpicky1868
@mrpicky1868 3 жыл бұрын
@Jimmy Bond lol? its a known effect and there are tons on solutions using it. but it wasts energy son in general its complicated and pointless. but there are a lot of devices like that/ look at any iphone)
@NRMcCullough
@NRMcCullough 2 жыл бұрын
6:26: this video Gets a LOVE. I don't get the principle behind it, but VT without visible downward facing thrusy just blew my mind.
@elit3401
@elit3401 Жыл бұрын
Very nice aircraft. The Wright Brothers would be proud and amazed!! Good job ! I hope to see this become a reality.
@Traderhood
@Traderhood 3 жыл бұрын
Great presentation. I learned a lot from your video. For the technology itself, this is huge. It looks to me like a future of flying.
@bikebrains
@bikebrains 3 жыл бұрын
This video should be sent to all STEM schools. The WOW factor could inspire students to study physics and a variety of engineering subjects.
@timothygooding9544
@timothygooding9544 3 жыл бұрын
@@bikebrains another person posed the idea of making a smaller bladeless system for a boat, imagine a bunch of STEM students designing, printing and using a system like that on a kayak via 3d printing.
@Amenti_H
@Amenti_H 3 жыл бұрын
@@bikebrains To learn how not to do it?
@southamptonbythesea
@southamptonbythesea 3 жыл бұрын
It's like a cross between a Hawker Siddeley Harrier and the Red Baron's Triplane!
@jimliu7086
@jimliu7086 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! That was such a great video you really explained the concepts well so that for me someone who is seeing this for the first time can understand it! Love the detail and the quality! Thanks
@CatShot1983
@CatShot1983 3 ай бұрын
Amazing breakthrough I'm eagerly looking forward to seeing more and more about this.
@DanteYewToob
@DanteYewToob 2 жыл бұрын
This same principle is used by some camping beds and beach couches where you gently blow into the inflation tube which is specially designed to multiply the air, and it blows up the whole couch. Your breath creates a pressure difference and a flow which pulls in the surrounding air to fill the entire thing with very few breaths. Pretty cool. That’s just a simple way to see this principle in action with your hands and your own breath. It’s pretty magical when b you see it work! One breath and the bed is almost full! It’s pretty crazy… science is awesome
@Useaname
@Useaname Жыл бұрын
It works the same on my blow up doll
@larrydeavenport469
@larrydeavenport469 3 жыл бұрын
He showed similarities between a Copus blower and Henri Coanda's air foil aircraft design, to this design. both operate similar to how the Dyson blower works. Copus blowers have been used for years for confined tank enclosures and for drying or cooling inside of tanks. We used ours to cool down the shaft furnace at our copper refinery just before a furnace rebuild.
@user-kt9hy9tm1p
@user-kt9hy9tm1p 3 ай бұрын
Самолёт команды не взлетел проще говоря такого самолёта не существует
@jonny555ive
@jonny555ive Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely AMAZING. We are living in incredible times. We are looking at this technology I'm sure the way the wright brothers looked at the technology they crafted. I'm so excited to see the future. 👍👍
@troy9er
@troy9er 2 жыл бұрын
I have been flying Electric RC, planes, both propeller and ducted Jets, Helicopter’s for about 20 years. My buddy Matt flys Turbine jets. Very fast and cool, but the cost is way more than I would like to afford. This is very interesting, subbing.
@RickyHarline
@RickyHarline 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video as always. Really loving this channel! Keep up the great work!
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@RickyDownhillRDH
@RickyDownhillRDH 3 жыл бұрын
This is a really great concept, I hope they can keep moving forward with it. While watching this, I kept thinking he was saying "Jet of Terror". I'm glad I was hearing him wrong!! 😳
@MusicEchos
@MusicEchos 2 жыл бұрын
Each time I heard it, that is what I heard. Jet of terror.
@RickyDownhillRDH
@RickyDownhillRDH 2 жыл бұрын
@@MusicEchos 🤣
@A_QuestioningSoul
@A_QuestioningSoul 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderfully explained. Such a calm and scientific manner of presentation 🙏🏾🙏🏾😌
@pdlister
@pdlister Жыл бұрын
What an exciting concept! I'm not so impressed with most KZfaq videos. Thank you so much. One small point: the plural of aircraft is aircraft.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation Жыл бұрын
Thank you. I have since corrected that mistake in my subsequent videos
@SuperYellowsubmarin
@SuperYellowsubmarin 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see the calculations for their propulsive efficiency. There may be an augmentation effect (similar to ejector pumps as you pointed out) but the efficiency of the gas generator must also be factored in.
@quadrapodacone
@quadrapodacone 3 жыл бұрын
I love this so much. I'm stoked to have found your channel!
@425HP
@425HP 2 жыл бұрын
It is indeed interesting. There are quite a few new technologies introducing different propulsion systems. It will be a great contest to see which one gets perfected first.
@micflynn1
@micflynn1 2 жыл бұрын
Very well explained, with good visuals of how it works. Thank you for the information.
@LuisRuiz-bm3sw
@LuisRuiz-bm3sw 3 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely brilliant concept I really hope they can get this thing going with a full scale mock-up
@garymahon2361
@garymahon2361 3 жыл бұрын
Really well explained , thank you!
@Orangepilldispencer
@Orangepilldispencer 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is an amazing exercise in thought and I wish them all the luck. The design is very close to what I am trying to accomplish myself. I am very excited to watch their progress and very thankful that the time and money isn't mine wasted in this pursuit. I almost certainly guarantee that they will find that these principles do not apply and are very ineffective at scale to lift something vertically like a passenger vtol. But that being said I pray I am incorrect. And if anyone reading this associated with this project I would be interested in offering my game changing energy storage systems.
@aspendesign
@aspendesign 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your concepts and explaining them so well. I hope you get somewhere with this.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
I hope so too!
@fredtorres1703
@fredtorres1703 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was so interesting.
@Metrofarquhar
@Metrofarquhar 2 жыл бұрын
One huge advantage of this concept for application to flying cars and urban air mobility is the lack of exposed rotors/propellers. Designs like the Ehang 216, for example, feature exposed rotors that are hazardous to life and limb, limiting flexibility for boarding, and operations around people.
@lebelame
@lebelame 2 жыл бұрын
The LOOKS, always starts with the looks and this is bang on. Even better than the Lilium. Now , i comprehend the Dyson fan. You know the concept will be manufactured cause the idea is fully fonctionnal in my dreams & thoughts. Great video, perfect time for an intro Bravo ! Mahalo, Claude
@rozarimwoleng2125
@rozarimwoleng2125 3 жыл бұрын
A concept that may become a landmark to aviation. Interesting. Keep it up.
@jimgraham6722
@jimgraham6722 3 жыл бұрын
F4E Phantom used blown leading edge flaps. Lowered take off and landing speed by 15-20 kts. Used lots of compressed air but J79 had plenty to serve up.
@johnmarkgatti3324
@johnmarkgatti3324 3 жыл бұрын
shinmawa US2 stol seaplane , also uses a turbine for force assist flow over flaps ,
@JescoLincke
@JescoLincke 3 жыл бұрын
Those systems were low airspeed lift augmentation designs and horribly inefficient. They did their job, though.
@macrumpton
@macrumpton 3 жыл бұрын
Unless I am mistaken the entrainment function merely uses a small high speed stream to accelerate a larger low speed stream, but it does not create any additional thrust. It is hard to see how this could be more efficient than a propelller driven plane, as the propeller directly creates a low speed stream without needing to accelerate the air around it.
@philv3941
@philv3941 3 жыл бұрын
That's why they cleverly don't claim that. If you listen carefully they claim to be superior to small jets system. I imagine it's pointing to small ducted fans like E-fan airbus electric plane, or small turbo jets. Not propellers. The entrainment causes more flow around the motor so more lift for the box. I think it's a good compromise of compacity and efficiency and safety against multirotors or tilting multirotor + small wings.
@635574
@635574 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe sometime someone makes this effect into the wing itself so the whole surface is both propulsion and lift. Also this plane has a rather small intake at the top, this might be the limiting factor for its total power.
@richardm.newlands2417
@richardm.newlands2417 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, entrainment experiments 100 years ago in Scotland using solid rockets to give the core gas stream, showed a thrust amplification of around ten. The idea is to tailor the exit speed of the mixed flow so that it leaves the rear of the aircraft at exactly the same speed that the aircraft is moving forward: thus, the exiting flow leaves with zero speed relative to the atmosphere so has zero wasted kinetic energy remaining in the exhaust. Ergo, big improvement in efficiency.
@635574
@635574 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardm.newlands2417 is that related to aerospikes? But also that would work only for cruising speed not acceleration.
@totherarf
@totherarf 3 жыл бұрын
@@richardm.newlands2417 If the exhaust has zero airspeed as it leaves it will also have zero thrust!
@JoeOvercoat
@JoeOvercoat 2 жыл бұрын
A very cool concept and I’m keen to see how it scales up from the demonstration model we see in the video.
@REOsama
@REOsama Жыл бұрын
Your explanation of the principle of operation of this aircraft is underrated, keep up the good work
@licencetoswill
@licencetoswill 3 жыл бұрын
this channel is so well researched. great to watch
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 3 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@michaelwhinnery164
@michaelwhinnery164 3 жыл бұрын
What !!!!
@kdeuler
@kdeuler 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video! It would be interesting to see how performance changes with altitude.
@d.cypher2920
@d.cypher2920 2 жыл бұрын
This is an *EXCELLENT* channel. I must say, your english is outstanding brother. Also, i can appreciate the way you explain things accurately with a minimal amount of words, making it even more easy to understand. *subscribed* upon hearing about 4.5 minutes of this video. 😎🇺🇸
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@staninjapan07
@staninjapan07 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the details are beyond my technical understanding, but it was fascinating, thank you.
@brsrc759
@brsrc759 2 жыл бұрын
That is too cool! I bet it's going to be extremely quiet compared to a standard jet engine. And you're really good at explaining it all. You've got a new subscriber
@cleitonoliveira932
@cleitonoliveira932 2 жыл бұрын
Dyson bladeless fans are louder than cheap fans.
@myotherusername9224
@myotherusername9224 2 жыл бұрын
Dyson claims 60-70% nose reduction for their fans vs. Blades
@cleitonoliveira932
@cleitonoliveira932 2 жыл бұрын
@@myotherusername9224 at minimum speed vs blade fans at maximum. When full fledged they're noisy AF and don't even blow that much air
@brentftaylor
@brentftaylor 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video and great explanation!
@emmanuelgo208
@emmanuelgo208 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this advance futuristic design. Deserves much kudos to the conceptors/inventors👏👏👏👍👍👍🤗🤗🤗
@lmc2560
@lmc2560 Жыл бұрын
Im intrigued by the concept also yes . this is a great start to personal airborne vehicles . very interesting . of course the cost of operation and maintenance . And technical IQ of an average individual ? Amazing !
@AlexRoe
@AlexRoe 3 жыл бұрын
This is the 'cleanest' propulsion system I've seen. The e-aircraft with zillions of often vertical facing 'propellers' simply look chaotic. And each propellor unit needs a motor thus upping the cost and potential reliability. This system, on the other hand, is relatively simple, and, I've read, quiet. It looks much better than the Cityhawk thing too. I hope it gets made.
@braveheart196
@braveheart196 3 жыл бұрын
Needs lots of investors
@NicholasStreet
@NicholasStreet 3 жыл бұрын
"There's nothing new under the sun." This was used years ago in the 50s with Jetex model rocket engines fitted with an augmeter tube.
@aarona5522
@aarona5522 3 жыл бұрын
Look for it In 👉1930 👇 Henri Coanda build the first UFO and he call it: AerodineLenticulare .
@M3galodon
@M3galodon 3 жыл бұрын
Many technologies have been out for many years but we just couldn't make them into a viable product due to our limited understanding. Once the right breakthrough is achieved and financial backing is secured can it materialize to something. Note that this can happen multiple times until said product is commercially viable. (VR comes to mind). We see this in science too. We're aware of quantum physics for a hundred years and our most brilliant minds have been working on it since, yet this is still the case: "If you think you understand quantum mechanics, you don't understand quantum mechanics."
@lukefreeman828
@lukefreeman828 3 жыл бұрын
@@aarona5522 it wasn’t a fucking UFO if you know exactly what it was 😂
@geoffnottage8894
@geoffnottage8894 3 жыл бұрын
Aah jetex, a source of joy nearly 70 years ago!
@andreasdinkelacker6729
@andreasdinkelacker6729 3 жыл бұрын
@@geoffnottage8894 perhaps a point on Jetex fuel - it used Nitroguanidine, made from bat shit and nitric acid, if I remember right
@ensignbodybag
@ensignbodybag Жыл бұрын
A very informative article on fluidic propulsion, thank you.
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation Жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@DA-zh9gi
@DA-zh9gi Жыл бұрын
I like this design above all the others I have seen so far. It looks very promising.
@ALBANOSTI
@ALBANOSTI 3 жыл бұрын
These thrusters rely on turbulent mixing of the driving jet with the secondary airflow. They can not enhance thrust over the entire flight regime - maybe they can enhance static thrust. I am sceptic.
@doctor_moodm9536
@doctor_moodm9536 3 жыл бұрын
it is supposedly meant to increase lift on the wings... at least that's what it looks like to me.
@2degucitas
@2degucitas 3 жыл бұрын
Just a picky note: you meant "skeptic". Sceptic means a blood infection.
@enginesandmore1013
@enginesandmore1013 3 жыл бұрын
@@2degucitas maybe thats what he meant, maybe he has a blood infection
@ALBANOSTI
@ALBANOSTI 3 жыл бұрын
I am a sceptic :-) but not septic. Sceptical I get, when I hear the sound of jet pumps turned inside out....
@starsiegeplayer
@starsiegeplayer 3 жыл бұрын
@@doctor_moodm9536 Which makes the cartoon of using them as VTOL lifters dodgy.
@markwilkins8314
@markwilkins8314 3 жыл бұрын
Thunderfoot, looking forward to your review
@ashtonhartley2662
@ashtonhartley2662 3 жыл бұрын
Yup
@RandomnessCreates
@RandomnessCreates 3 жыл бұрын
As much as I like him debunking stuff, dude has a big hate boner with alright projects like from TESLA and SpaceX. Otherwise, he's an alright skeptic. It just gets annoying when he does it again and again.
@vanguard6937
@vanguard6937 3 жыл бұрын
@@RandomnessCreates i stopped watching the dude years ago because hed make the video after video on the same idea with slightly different words or order of pictures. not only that, but he would repeat the same point 4 times in a single video.
@korras21
@korras21 3 жыл бұрын
LOL, he'd hate on anything he comes across :D funny chap
@korras21
@korras21 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanguard6937 yeah, he became unwatchable pretty quickly.
@j.d.4697
@j.d.4697 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a huge fan of beauty that is created when function and design come together.
@erikpeace7364
@erikpeace7364 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing how the Dyson fan works! Always wondered how they did that. This Fluidic propulsion is such an elegant solution for aircraft. Why not power the craft with the very air it flies through? Genius 👍
@jessepollard7132
@jessepollard7132 Жыл бұрын
doesn't work.
@AtlasReburdened
@AtlasReburdened 3 жыл бұрын
In these VTOL 'demonstrations', did they actually match the scaled weight and weight distribution modeled for a unit equipped with a gas turbine and fuel against the scale adjusted thrust expected from said turbine system? Because I can strap a single LiPo battery and enough high power ducted electric fans to a toilet, and burn through the LiPo's power to get it in the air for 20 seconds, but that doesn't mean a toilet is a valid aircraft, jet engine or not.
@life_of_riley88
@life_of_riley88 3 жыл бұрын
Often "startup" companies do just that. Feed you some serious 'crap' while getting a crap idea to partially demonstrate, then fleece dumb investors, flounder, and act like they don't know what happened with the 'new technology' not working out. Oh yeah, all while the founders make millions on failed ideas.
@qawamity
@qawamity 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a crappy way to travel.
@Hellsong89
@Hellsong89 2 жыл бұрын
@@life_of_riley88 And fanboys keep drumming the thing further. Like with this video, hey look electric flying car! It can easily be made electric... when battery technology advances further.. so not in several decades and i would be even less interested in this flying coffin than EV, since with EV you wont probably... maybe die when batteries crap out.. with this yeah no.. With jet engine this might have some sense, but vtol is always hard thing to build since you need lots of computers to assist even professional pilot.. One computer crapping out can easily lead disaster with vtol. Also as mentioned duckted fans are now flying the test platform, but we have no idea what ever this actually works in real world aircraft and will it be powerful and practical enough. Its interesting concept, just hate how EV fanboys start drumming for shit like this, even before there is model version flying and even then scaled weight of the aircraft seems to be forgotten on test for looks of it.
@mechanomics2649
@mechanomics2649 2 жыл бұрын
@@life_of_riley88 Tesla being one of the best modern examples of this lmao
@mechanomics2649
@mechanomics2649 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hellsong89 What do you mean "like with this video"? The video is fairly informational and doesn't act like the technology is right around the corner. The guy isn't drumming anything up. I get how annoying the current tech climate is with people like Musk and his cult but that doesn't make it a good idea to take the polar opposite stance. Yes, the technology is being looked into. That's all the video really says while breaking it down into examples how how the tech is used today as well as proofs of concept in the past. Nothing wrong with taking a look at previously mothballed technology with a fresh pair of eyes as long as no one's being conned, which this video doesn't appear to be attempting to do.
@themorganator
@themorganator 3 жыл бұрын
extremely informative video; thank you! New sub from me!
@sumo19131913
@sumo19131913 Жыл бұрын
Very well made Video and explanation……… as an airline pilot, I was often surprised when I heard of electric aeroplanes (without propellers)……… now I get it…….. also, pilotless planes are already in existence. So, very soon there will be very few pilot jobs!
@richardbrandeis4879
@richardbrandeis4879 2 жыл бұрын
Without question, this technology will revolutionize every day travel. Wishing you great success with this project. Hopefully in the near future people will be transported using a clean, non carbon based furel systems.
@mealien0808
@mealien0808 3 жыл бұрын
i was thinking about this last couple of week. it's like KZfaq algorithm is in my brain.
@danielsykes7558
@danielsykes7558 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. That looks almost eerie without moving external parts. Amazing 👏🏼
@lennym1273
@lennym1273 3 жыл бұрын
It has a lot of moving parts there just inside the plane..
@ravenflight7099
@ravenflight7099 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is a spectacular beginning of some great things.
@Iccdoc
@Iccdoc Жыл бұрын
I like the gentle takeoffs and landings. This is some exciting technology.
@Ostsol
@Ostsol 3 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, though I hope these aircraft can glide unpowered. It's a point of distrust I have with a lot of VTOL designs -- admittedly mainly those like quad-copters. Helicopters can autorotate, and planes and even tilt-rotors can glide if they lose engine power. A quad-copter... falls out of the sky. Helicopters still have the best options when they're unpowered, being able to land without a runway if none is available.
@addisonlanier4226
@addisonlanier4226 2 жыл бұрын
everything falls in a downdraft. gliders fall at highspeeds just not straight down. Quite often you have to go through vacuous situ's and gliders cant get around walls going 300K/h. This heavily excercised systme is rigorously designed not to stop and to always have enoigh fuel. So maybe its the safest of all concepts?
@Ostsol
@Ostsol 2 жыл бұрын
​@@addisonlanier4226 The same claims about design rigour and procedures can be said for any other conventional aircraft, yet there are still protocols in place for what happens when the power fails. It's not just about having enough fuel. Few aircraft run out of fuel in the air. Sometimes it's a maintenance issue or a bird strike or a number of other things that kills the engine(s). I don't see how something like this is any less susceptible to problems than conventional aircraft and therefore I don't see how it can be safe without unpowered landing capability. "It probably won't happen" is not good enough.
@tld8102
@tld8102 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like they just strapped a few dyson fans onto a drone
@Ben7seven7
@Ben7seven7 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it looks like that but these motors would have to deliver exponentially more power / thrust than its Dyson counterpart.
@nicholasfinch4087
@nicholasfinch4087 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ben7seven7 doesn't sound useful then, if it requires more work
@Arcgateway
@Arcgateway 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to startups!
@greekkidshows9373
@greekkidshows9373 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasfinch4087 everything worth it requires effort or waiting for someone else's effort
@Nellosphere
@Nellosphere 3 жыл бұрын
Scale it up!!!
@vinnusapavath3528
@vinnusapavath3528 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You sir for your good explanation.sir your channel is very important in my life sir but one thing sir All the best for your future videos 👍👍👍
@ElectricAviation
@ElectricAviation 3 жыл бұрын
So nice of you
@koori3085
@koori3085 2 жыл бұрын
All the best luck with full scale production! 👍
@DataDownLynk
@DataDownLynk 3 жыл бұрын
We need to bring Thunderf00t's attention to this.
@DartTyler
@DartTyler 3 жыл бұрын
R E N D E R  V I D E O
@DataDownLynk
@DataDownLynk 3 жыл бұрын
@@DartTyler Biggest red flag
@markozagar
@markozagar 3 жыл бұрын
Fully agree. If this "multiplies flow", then just route the output of one such "jet" back into itself, or through a chain of them, and voila - infinite energy. This might be just another of those beautifully-rendered graphics presentation.
@c182SkylaneRG
@c182SkylaneRG 3 жыл бұрын
@@markozagar The catch to that, in practice, is that flow multiplication relies on high pressure at the intake, and low pressure at the output. If you create a circular chain of these, then taking an arbitrary start/end point along the circle, the pressure will be LOWER at the intake of your "start" point than at the outlet, because the pressure will consistently drop across each propulsor in the loop. Kinda like the time zones need to reset at the International Date Line because they can't keep going backwards forever. So the physics of the idea is sound, but putting them in a loop to create infinite energy is not.
@DataDownLynk
@DataDownLynk 3 жыл бұрын
@@markozagar The issue is that this kind of device is great for moving air around a room and for propelling a model aircraft, but the physics does not scale up very well. Doing something like this for propulsion of an aircraft that can carry a person would use way more power than a conventional propeller that's electrically driven. I just cannot see something like this being efficient enough to knock other modes of propulsion of their throne.
@Kahweekah2o2f
@Kahweekah2o2f 3 жыл бұрын
Good I’m tired of breaking props on my drone. Thanks Dyson
@evm6177
@evm6177 3 жыл бұрын
🍷😆
@KrazyKaiser
@KrazyKaiser 3 жыл бұрын
A drone built on this technology would be really interesting.
@Pietsepan
@Pietsepan 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful concept. I wish you all the best with your endeavors.
@Greendragon999
@Greendragon999 2 жыл бұрын
It's about time someone looked into this technology.
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