KTM FREERIDE E-XC vs. SUR-RON X | Electric Dirt Bike Test

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Tucker Neary from Electric Cycle Rider does a head to head comparison of the 2020 KTM Freeride E-XC vs the Sur-Ron X on a singletrack test track in Colorado.
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The KTM Freeride E-XC weighs 250 pounds and has a peak power output of 18Kw. The Freeride has 43mm WP Xplor forks and a PDS rear shock. The modifications to the Freeride E-XC in this video is a Nihilo Concepts oversized brake kit and rotor and Michelin Starcross 5 tires.
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The Sur-Ron X is an electric dirt bike, otherwise known as the LightBee X. This ultra light Chinese bike combines features of a full size motocross bike and a mountain bike to make a dirt bike that rides in a category of it's own. The Sur-Ron X Limited Black Edition came with the Rockshox Boxxer fork. The modifications to the Sur-Ron X in this video are a Wicked Wheel Werks Wheelset with 21” Front Rim, XC-Gear Hammerhead360 Stem, Fox Vanilla Shock, Pro Taper 3” Rise Handlebars, Shimano Brake Pads, and the new Sur-Ron Electronic Ride By Wire Throttle.
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Front Tires (70/100-19)
Pirelli Scorpion
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Rear Tires (70/100-19)
Shinko 241
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Maxxis Maxxcross
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Shimano HO3C Brake Pads
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Sur Ron Foot Peg Brace:
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XC Gear Hammerhead360 Stem: bit.ly/xcgear
To record this test, Tucker used a Polar Vantage watch paired with a H10 hear rate monitor and a LITPro GPS Tracking device to record the lap times.
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@ElectricCycleRider 2 жыл бұрын

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@FixItStupid 2 жыл бұрын

Show The Motor RPM & THE AMP Draw video graphics on the ride on the video OK fix stupid TR that's A trademark LOL

@jamessmithsoligo3779 2 жыл бұрын

Pls give me a suron

@jamessmithsoligo3779 2 жыл бұрын

I'm from piliphines zambales masiloc inhobol

@stuarthicks2696 2 жыл бұрын

I could sneak a Surron into my local trails that I ride to from my house without putting the bike on a car. Not so with the KTM.

@rayjs1963 2 жыл бұрын

Hey...was wonder what you weigh and the top speeds of the bikes. Would they handle a 250 lb rider very well....nice video...thx and keep it up

@mixflip 3 жыл бұрын

I had no intention of buying an e dirtbike....until now. Thanks for opening my eyes. That KTM would be awesome in the back of my truck when camping. It wouldn't bother other campers in the area.

@ElectricCycleRider 3 жыл бұрын

@mixflip That's awesome to hear! Thanks for sharing and drop a note when you get one! 👍

@ceofirstclass3050 3 жыл бұрын

Same I have a sx-f but this looks like a blast

@djp4206 2 жыл бұрын

Personally wouldn’t bother seen full power 30+bhp 125s race them and there still abit slower

@bikesbeersbeats 2 жыл бұрын

@@justinteixeiravaz I got an Electric Motion ePure Race. I can ride from my garage to the park and anywhere else with the same power as a 300cc and nobody says a word or hears it!

@MrDukeofearls 2 жыл бұрын

Till ya got that generator running at 3 in the morning charging it up.

@bldallas 3 жыл бұрын

Freaking amazing! Just a few years back, I couldn’t even image a bike like this. Great riding and great video.

@vintagetrikesandquads4012 3 жыл бұрын

It's interesting to see the different industries converge on the same idea. The KTM is more motorcycle, whereas the Sur-Ron is more bicycle.

@XitriyDmitriy Жыл бұрын

Hi 👋 I made 2 conversion of KTM RC ⚡️⚡️⚡️ watch it in my channel👈👈👈🧨🧨🧨

@TecnamTwin Жыл бұрын

KTM is also more than twice the price so there's that.

@wheeliewadethiesen2946 3 жыл бұрын

This is how a test should be done, real good input covering all grounds doing an honest comparison 👍🏻

@ElectricCycleRider 3 жыл бұрын

@Wheelie Wade Thiesen Thanks! Appreciate the note.

@Gibbbrayden 2 жыл бұрын

Would of been really nice to see battery life after on each.

@RyderSigety 3 жыл бұрын

Damm good review, seemingly unbiased, and addressed many questions

@mbarnatan1 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for an excellent comparison. This is how it should be done.

@lemix69 3 жыл бұрын

Man, you've got balls to run so hot on that track. I'm currently building a Stealth Bomber frame e-bike and it's about the same weight and look as the Sur Ron, has a noseless Schwinn seat, the mid-drive motor is the Luna Cycle Cyclone 3D 3000watt with the standard sine wave controller, the battery I'm building is a 72Volt 40 AH battery made from LifePO4 32650's @ 3.2V 6amp, should be able to get around 45MPH, but watching you go around that track, I'm wondering if I'm ever going to get that fast. Maybe if I had some long level stretches with no turns, but at 64 years old, I don't think my reflexes are going to be up to running like you did. Hats off to yuh! It was a lot of fun, just watching you. I think my heart rate got higher when you ran the E-XC! 🖖😎

@rcorser1 4 жыл бұрын

Exact video I’ve been wanting and waiting to watch. Thanks!!

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Robert Corser Thanks! 👍

@gladtv7873 4 жыл бұрын

Watching to watch? 🤔

@rcorser1 4 жыл бұрын

@@gladtv7873 HA!! Good catch....corrected. :-)

@Hobbies4Hire 9 ай бұрын

Great job on the video Tucker! Thanks for making it.

@derek7676 2 жыл бұрын

That was pretty awesome. Heaps of physical effort for a test well done.

@MegaSneetch 4 жыл бұрын

Another good video but there's just one more comparison I'd like to see. The design of the Sur Ron seems to lean more trials friendly than the full size dirt bikes. If you could get a video of a technical, stop and go, average speed under 10 mph kind of trail, then I'd love to see it.

@wheeliewadethiesen2946 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I could turn back the clock even just 10 years just don’t have the money for either one it would open up a whole new world for me simply amazing 👍🏻

@wrighthausracing9641 3 жыл бұрын

Dont worry God has a garage full for you one day

@cookieguy1770 2 жыл бұрын

@@wrighthausracing9641 thank you

@lolbr6818 4 жыл бұрын

This machine will go fast enough to hurt you. Im impressed. I appreciate this stuff, the bikes are getting better so quickly. These vids are getting it done...

@lit3plumber12 4 жыл бұрын

So will any, down a hill ;) but I am also impressed. The price point for the Sur-Ron is quite impressive as well.

@stevenwescott1422 3 жыл бұрын

If you hung a FMF pipe off the Sur Ron it would greatly improve lap times. Or a sticker for slight improvement.

@ramonvaluezuela1869 2 жыл бұрын

Don’t forget to increase the intake as well with a nice K&N breather.

@ramonvaluezuela1869 2 жыл бұрын

;)

@aaronlbuchanan9861 4 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for the video Tucker, that answered a few questions i had.

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Aaron L Buchanan Awesome! I'm super happy to hear that. That is my goal, after all. Thanks for your support Aaron! 👍

@sweetdrahthaar7951 Жыл бұрын

Flawless riding. What an exciting video. I’d like to ride through there on the Sur Ron at a leisurely pace and enjoy some scenery. My days of going fast at all are far behind me. Thanks for the video. I appreciate it. Have fun. Try to be safe👍🏻🇺🇸🤠

@bryandickerson5365 4 жыл бұрын

Just amazing how far E cycles have come! Thanks for showing them off. It’s a tough job but somebody’s gotta do it, right? ;^)

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Bryan Dickerson Haha, so true! It is without a doubt a lot of fun making these videos! The tough days don't often come through on camera but I can assure you there is a load of behind-the-scenes effort to make these happen. Just glad people like you are watching. Thanks for your support Bryan! 👍

@shockadellick Жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider Next comparison I'd like to see, Drill One vs FreeRide vs Talaria.

@joee8795 3 жыл бұрын

Just rode one today (Sur-Ron), as a 450 owner/rider myself, the Sun-Ron definitely feels more like a electric Downhill Mountain Bike. However, it was still a blast to ride (in the snow/ice with studded tires), I’m sure the KTM would be even more fun to ride 🤘🏻

@hansen370 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta love the narration while riding

@johnberry8117 4 жыл бұрын

Cool comparison n excellent riding, thx. For posting!

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@John Berry Thanks! 👍

@rmtugonon7223 2 жыл бұрын

It's very amazing bro that you did this, I like it very much. Also you ride my dreambike sur-ron x I'll keep following you on youtube

@solaron99 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome speed on the eBike! Incredible!

@TheCralso 2 жыл бұрын

Such a good video! Thanks

@BWT599 2 жыл бұрын

Great vid, would like to see Stealth Bomber B52 vs. Surron X

@ianmangham4570 3 жыл бұрын

Love how he's thrashing them hard over rough as hell terrain lmso

@bartsimpsonsonson 3 жыл бұрын

I would expect the KTM to be able to thrashed. KTMs rule and have lead many innovations in offroad motorcycles for years, forcing the Japanese adopt same. Obv they have dominated off road racing in the US for years, and of course World GP MXbut had little success in SX/MX in America until they took up that objective and started actually sponsoring riders in America specifically for US racing......

@swyang68 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@kountification 3 жыл бұрын

thx for the great content!!

@dchiffy 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks great comparison. I’d like to see the optibike vs sirron

@tacostwowheels4934 4 жыл бұрын

Cool video! Keep up the good work

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Tacos&TwoWheels Thank you!

@davidturner3010 3 жыл бұрын

Dude ride like a dream awesome job

@rmk925rmk 3 жыл бұрын

I would love to see how the HPC revolution and sur ron compare

@rwolfcastle 2 жыл бұрын

I've gotta say my journey to finding the right machine for my needs started with this channel. I really appreciate the content. I took a serious look at the KTM and even kicked around the idea of putting a deposit down on the Varg. Ultimately the price of entry was a bit high considering this was going to be my first bike. So I took a long look at Sur Ron's and eventually landed on the Talaria. I really dig the upgrades, minor or not . And I'm comfortable with the price point as I consider the Talaria my "proof of concept". If I love it I can always upgrade to something like a Varg or KTM later and pass the Talaria onto the kiddos.

@limmoblack 4 жыл бұрын

You're one hell of a pilot, i would NEVER EVER lend you my bike lol

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@gg morris 😂

@wiesodass5543 4 жыл бұрын

😄 i would hit the first tree in the first corner and fall down on these rocks and break something at 1/5 of this speed

@josefernandoespinosa8590 3 жыл бұрын

@@wiesodass5543 jajajaja

@GaborEwayBiker 3 жыл бұрын

Apart from the biketest, amazing to see how the guy rides!

@jasonb1159 3 жыл бұрын

He knows that track

@mattmiller4917 3 жыл бұрын

You put a lot of these YT guys to shame here with your mastery of the bikes

@davestacionis7861 4 жыл бұрын

Nice comparison, thank you. Would love to see the final Alta and the upcoming Sur-Ron thrown in. These 4 bikes comprise the exact group I have been considering for my next single track bike.

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Dave Stacionis Thank you! Yes, for sure that will be fun. I'll be doing a bunch of tests with the Storm when it becomes available and have access to a couple of Alta MX and MXR's we can throw in the mix as well. Appreciate the feedback!

@JustinBleeder Жыл бұрын

This test was done some time ago. I'd like to see it done again and the Surron equipped with the x-9000 controller and a 72V battery. Or the KTM might be a closer match with the Ultra Bee which wasn't out at that time.

@bartsimpsonsonson 3 жыл бұрын

The diff in power was noticeable in that on the KTM's second lap you could see that the course was getting roosted up. I didn't hear a comment about the weight difference while riding but I thought he said the KTM was as heavy as a real Thumper or even heavier and double the weight of the Surron. Surprised there was only a 13 sec diff on the respective quickest laps, given the performance difference.

@afitechnicalities3541 3 жыл бұрын

Dude I love my Hondas but and I think I'm going to get a electric dirt bike in the near future LOL I really dig them

@dustinread6407 3 жыл бұрын

I'm surprised honda hasn't come out with an electric dbike

@synergy7501 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video

@MrDjh66 3 жыл бұрын

Getting my surron in a week use it for trails behind my house I have a19 KX 450 for the track great video thanks

@ElectricCycleRider 3 жыл бұрын

@MrDjh66 Awesome, Have fun!

@pamiller011 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t know if this has been said but, go back another day and swap the ride order. Start on KTM and then ride the other. See if warming up on one changes the results on the other.

@freedomfighter2911 3 жыл бұрын

Good point

@kevinxodemonth 3 жыл бұрын

He did one some time back, riding an ICE KTM first and then riding the Surron. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/adyTe7WYpsjefas.html

@General_Klytus 3 жыл бұрын

This guy was extremely Calm and well Spoken while Racing at Death Speeds!

@SiriusSolar 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the review. I was wondering the the experience differs between these two.

@Mayhemjach 3 жыл бұрын

awesome videos man

@ElectricCycleRider 3 жыл бұрын

@SEG-WAYUP JACH Thanks dude!

@hadesomegamoto7639 4 жыл бұрын

Cake Kalk vs Freeride, I rode the Kalk OR and my Light Bee back to back and the Kalk definitely felt more powerful and bigger. I think the Kalk would be a good comparison to the Freeride. I've yet to ride the Freeride though. The Kalk weigh's 25lbs more than the Light Bee but it definitely more powerful, it doesn't "feel" as light as the Light Bee though.

@sn0wchyld 4 жыл бұрын

can strongly reccomend a new controller on the surron... changes the feel entirely even with the stock battery. gives about 2x the torque low down, difference is smaller at higher speeds (battery limits the power) but still pulls a bit harder and just 'feels' lighter/more agile.

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@sn0wchyld Awesome. Yea man, still working out how to get one but looking forward to trying it for sure!

@sn0wchyld 4 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider well the nucular gets my recommendation in any case, lots of control over the response rate and a v. good controller all in all... about 1/3rd the size of the original despite 4x the power :P

@__-pl3jg 4 жыл бұрын

Electric Cycle Rider - electricrt.com/sur-ron-upgrades/ BAC8000 - $1000 72v battery pack - $1500 Extended range 52Ah option - +$500 The controller/72v battery upgrade inceases HP from about 13 to 24! Top speed inceases to 85mph as confirmed by Jack Cecil on his YT channel.

@sn0wchyld 4 жыл бұрын

@@__-pl3jg Sadly ERT doesn't have the best reputation, see regular complaints on FB and ebike/mx forums re issues with support, some even claiming they're blocked when they ask for help... Normally i dont put huge stock in FB complaints but in this case I've seen ERT put 10G wire on controllers that can put out >800A... thats just dumb in the extreme, will overheat in a few seconds of full current (that said, you'd be talking ~800Nm of rear wheel torque at that point, ignoring saturation... so you wont be pulling it for long hahah). The BAC controllers are only resold by them anyway, the controllers themselves are great, good 2nd option when you really want to go over the top :P

@JohnHowerton137 4 жыл бұрын

Random Person I appreciate you posting this information. I think the SunRon is a dandy, but this just proves when people try and boast about it’s “superiority” over the KTM (just like the Alta) due to price, it just isn’t true. If you add E Cycle Riders suspension & wheel mods + all these you listed + the retail price of the SunRon. You are right at the KTM’s price and performance specs again with a downgraded chassis. Despite what people think, these MFGs aren’t just gouging people (or they all are in a big conspiracy). The Alta vs KTM is the same way. Scale up the KTM performance specs 15-20% and they are pretty well matched and priced with what the Alta was... with a downgraded chassis. As a KTM owner I don’t have a problem saying that, because my bike is still in production despite it’s shortcomings 🤣 I just have to throw more money at it to make it do what I need it to do vs buying an Alta that will sadly be a paperweight in the not to distant future. If I had $10,000 of completely disposable income, I’d have an Alta MXR, Period. I just can’t afford a bike with possible ZERO resale value 5 years from now. The SurRon can grow with the rider which is awesome, but if you’re already a pretty good rider I feel the KTM is a better starting point. Does that make sense?

@ianreed4636 3 жыл бұрын

Cool test ! So awesome how far we have come technologically , from being able to know your lap times and speed to knowing your heart rate . And yes the bikes and their technology is top notch .

@rayperkins4036 4 жыл бұрын

I went tubeless a few weeks ago. It saved about 3 lbs of rotating weight. It was easy and very affordable.

@kevinclark9176 4 жыл бұрын

Which bike? KTM or Sur-Ron?

@IIISentorIII 4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinclark9176 Xiaomi M365

@rayperkins4036 4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinclark9176 Sur Ron, just watch the Park Tools videos on the subject.

@surronzak8154 Жыл бұрын

@@rayperkins4036 I will try tubliss with oem front tire

@josephschnabel1andonly Жыл бұрын

Great video

@georgeyjung350 2 жыл бұрын

class mate, wish i cud get my hands on a sur ron all sold out! lol.. beasts matey

@mrabrasive51 3 жыл бұрын

Like to see these tested on a stadium supercross track.

@callyboygid 4 жыл бұрын

Don’t think I’ve seen anyone shift a sur ron quite like this! 💪👌

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@CMUK Right on! Thanks! 👍

@andrewkapteyn 4 жыл бұрын

It would be cool to see a 450 time comparison with the ktm freeride

@paddlesworthrcpark8215 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid

@masonm4793 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Tucker can you compare the CZEM Drill one to the KTM freeride E-XC I'm looking at both bike to buy and would like to see your results on the testing head to head. Thanks

@rayheppner8391 4 жыл бұрын

Electric cycle rider I would really love to see a comparison to the new REV-X or CZEM as I have my eyes on those, they look great and seem robust. Also would be good to hear the range difference between the Ktm & Surron. Thanks for the test.

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Ray Heppner Thanks for reaching out! I am actually going out to test the CZEM in a couple of weeks. I will have some videos in the near future with that bike. As for range, I am seeing approximately 20 miles on the KTM in these conditions and about 17 miles on the Sur-Ron in the same conditions.

@timgriffen5978 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider Thanks for sharing

@rolux4853 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider wow that’s a really low range I thought they can do more.. After that, do you have to charge them? Or can you put in a spare battery and continue riding, while the other battery is charging on your generator?

@omkarteli6314 2 жыл бұрын

Nice work, really good video. I am planning to buy Sur Ron but i have doubt about battery temperature as we all ride dirt bike to their limits so this electric version batteries will heat up a lot, its a most important critical factor but no video shows what exactly temperature behaviour of sur ron batteries in field, can you guyz show us, it would be so exciting to watch temperature behaviour of Sur Ron battery in action.

@dgarner2693 3 жыл бұрын

How much battery percent did you use on each bike in this test? Trying to get an idea of real world range.

@ajelltone7320 3 жыл бұрын

Lovin my Sur Ron !! Looking to upgrade the controller eventually but for now it's great for local dirt trails where you'd normally get chased off of on a gas DB. The Freerides seem like a lot of fun too ... but the Sur Ron's are a bit stealthier IMO. They look more like a mountain bike than a dirt bike at first glance... Great review though ECR !! 🙌🏼

@ElectricCycleRider 3 жыл бұрын

@A Jelltone Right on! Thanks for the note!

@chriskriaris4304 2 жыл бұрын

sure you do.sure

@garyparker7762 3 жыл бұрын

Would like to try one to see how awesome the , E bikes are

@Zodiac730908 4 жыл бұрын

would be great to have cvt belt drive to allow lower range for hill climbs

@camdunnage6214 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing an objective comparison between two different class bikes. It was good to hear the pros n cons each way and where one is better over the other. I’ve been thinking about getting an e-dirt bike but don’t know much about them or what’s available. To see comparisons like this is very helpful. I come from a motox background but I’ve transitioned to MTB in later years just because there’s more places to ride a quite less destructive MTB where I live. I purchased a Beta trials bike thinking that might work but it’s still too noisey n a bit heavy. (Gates) I had heard Honda we’re looking into E-dirt bikes. Do you know anything about them??

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Cam Dunnage Hey Cam, thanks for the note and feedback. Always nice to hear that it was informative and helpful! I understand your perspective completely, I ride a lot of MTB as well. Often times it is just easier to go ride MTB because of access and ease. Honda does have the CR-E prototype but no signs that it will be in production soon. All the manufacturers are experimenting but if they enter this space at full capacity, they threaten cannibalizing their current gas lineup. I can verify that every major manufacturer bought an Alta and tore it apart for research. If that doesn't tell you something... Have you tried an E-MTB yet?

@camdunnage6214 4 жыл бұрын

Electric Cycle Rider yes I’ve been looking into E MTB also. Tossing up which way to go. Theres a lot more selection for E MTB and there’re a lot easier to purchase over here. So that would possibly be my first option for getting out n about. But I want to setup a small MX practice track out on the section and was thinking an E MX bike would be good. The noise won’t annoy neighbours

@Propelled 2 жыл бұрын

Oh many you’re fast. Awesome vid. That whine drives me crazy like a dental drill in the ear.

@unbornreaper 4 жыл бұрын

Nice ride love that track! Ive got the kuberg freerider with some mods its a beast Try that If you can

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@unbornreaper 1990 It's an awesome track for sure! Thanks for the comment. I hope to try a Kuberg out soon!

@juice9767 3 жыл бұрын

Love this content. Please post something showing it being run in power mode 6

@nolacross704 3 жыл бұрын

It doesent have 6 only the mini e one has 6 I belive

@juice9767 3 жыл бұрын

@@nolacross704 oh damn ok. Thanks

@McTw1st Жыл бұрын

I would love to see a review on the timemoto TimeET

@ljprep6250 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, only a 13 second gain with triple the power and double the weight? That li'l Sur Ron is a beast. It works out to being 7.5% faster (although you got to know the course on the initial Sur Ron test) at triple the price. I see Sur Ron being the choice for most people who aren't made of money. What's the range for each? That might be a clinch statistic, too. P.S: Excellent comparison video, for sure.

@XitriyDmitriy Жыл бұрын

Hi 👋 I made 2 conversion of KTM RC ⚡️⚡️⚡️ watch it in my channel👈👈👈🧨🧨🧨

@boringsoaring 4 жыл бұрын

You seem to be relaxing and talking more on the Freeride

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Steve Forslund Yea that's a good point. The bike feels a little less cringe-worthy and more natural in this terrain.

@stephenbrown5844 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic motors,, I've an e bike and love I so much 👍😊

@PoconoJoe 2 жыл бұрын

Great review! New sub here/bell clicked:)

@theelmoreteam9097 3 жыл бұрын

Love the videos. I was hoping you could help? I ride a 2001 cr250r and a 2020 ktm 250xcw. Looking for something to play around the neighborhood and take to the trails. My problem, I'm 6'4 and 180lbs. Would you go with the ktm or cake? Have you tried the electric motion escape? Didnt see in your videos. Amy feedback would be greatly appreciated.

@RunsWithScissors 3 жыл бұрын

there should be a National Electric Bike series running with the current motocross and Supercross series. At least as an exhibition. Maybe a 2 stroke, 4 stroke and Electric shootout as an exhibition.

@zimzalabim7272 4 жыл бұрын

what are the max. tires width you can put on the SUR-RON? I would love to have fat tires on it!

@RoosterTailFilms 3 жыл бұрын

Wish I had enough for this one but I only have enough for the Segway x160

@andyparle5494 3 жыл бұрын

I feel that on a moto track the ktm would destroy the sur ron. But on more twisty technical singletrack trails the sur ron would be much more agile and beat the ktm. And i guess thats why one is an e mtb and one is an e crosser. Horses for courses as the saying goes.

@killsalltires156 3 жыл бұрын

That ktm looks like a wheelie beast!

@tritiumrecords717 3 жыл бұрын

Might think about it when solid state batteries are perfected, until then, just not enough distance for trail exploration

@EmilForsberg_GRYBO 3 жыл бұрын

He's so calm going that fast with the handlebar grasing the trees. I can't even think of going that fast without getting ill

@lukefish9443 3 жыл бұрын

🎖🎖🎖👍🏽

@boofstien2 3 жыл бұрын

I love the sound of gas bikes so don't get me wrong but I think the big advantage of these is noise. We would be able to get more commercial trails and motor tracks near to residential areas. Would be great to see some all elect tracks open up in the uk.

@easternyellowjacket276 Жыл бұрын

You could also have motocross style races indoors during the winter. E-bikes seem like they open up worlds of potential.

@billhash8296 3 жыл бұрын

Man these electric bikes and motorcycles have come a long way they are so awesome I wish I knew somebody had a lot of money or was rich that would buy me one of these because this is the only way I've ever get one way too expensive but still awesome

@MrBjorntsc 4 жыл бұрын

Most your braking comes from the front brake. The front brake is actuated by your hand... Rear foot brakes are only for when the clutch takes up that space.

@paulvansteenberghe4644 3 жыл бұрын

Would love to see what you think of the Bultaco R, though it is a bicycle , you can pedal up to 35 mph with its 2 KW hub motor.

@davidhardstaff8110 3 жыл бұрын

Me Too in the UK you could get away with this more easily as people would see it more as a pedal cycle

@killacoiler1707 2 жыл бұрын

It is interesting how a mountain bike based E-Dirt Bike that costs around 4k can even hang in the remote area hot lap wise as a 13k full on electric Enduro machine. I have been looking at a bunch of different E-Dirt machines and one that really peaks my interest simply because of the way it is built and the price of ownership is the Veli Moto VMX 12. It is also available as Time ET moto, and the Nicot Moto. It is roughly the same price as the Sur Ron X Black Edition and puts out 12KW through a 4 speed transmission. They claim a top speed of 70 mph and roughly between 50 and 100km of range depending how hard you are running it. It would be interesting to see how it fairs in a hot lap shoot out. The suspension is going to be its greatest handicap as it is not a linkeage style rear swingarm but rather more like the older pitbike rear suspension or more comparable to the KLX 110 rear A-frame swing arm and shock. I have seen videos of it on you tube dog walking the Sur Ron x in a stock format. However, I have seen Sur Rons with about 3k worth of battery and controller upgrades raise hell with CRF 250Rs so I guess it is all about how much you want to pay to play. Anyway great video and for me if you are not a privateer racer the Sur Ron X is a economical way to play offroad and not be obnoxious.

@josephotoet7377 3 жыл бұрын

Love you from Kampala

@mikaelamberntsson6642 3 жыл бұрын

Love your work. Would like to see KTM freeride E go up against the new SurRon Storm Bee

@ElectricCycleRider 3 жыл бұрын

@Mikael Amberntsson Thank you! Hope to make that happen soon. 👍

@NewMexicoOutside 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. Both are pretty cool bikes.

@techfreaks4134 2 жыл бұрын

Intersting to see both but with surron 72v and bac8000

@bcrproductions3862 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Tucker & ECR, I'm window shopping upgrades, I have XC head & bars on my KONA DAWG MTB, and like those, I'm definitely looking at suspension components to increase travel & seat height, at 6' 3" its a little like me in a VW Bug . Plus still weighing out which wheel size and manufacturer to go with? I really want to have a couple sets of Shinko Trials tire combo, and still looking for a sand paddle & wheel to take it to the dunes, planning a couple long trips this year.

@ElectricCycleRider 3 жыл бұрын

@BCR Productions Right on! For sure, at 6'3" the Sur Ron is going to feel really small. The riser bars will help open up the cockpit and the 21" front wheel and 18" rear wheel make it sit a bit taller. I just posted this video that has some upgrades, maybe it will help answer some of your wheel and suspension questions: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n6h8naaS2ciqm40.html Hope you can get one dialed in for your trips! 👍

@bcrproductions3862 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider Excellent, I've seen rear shock link's that will raise the seat, and some custom seats also. I've got time to gather and install improvements. I broke my collar bone, went through surgery, they have to go back in. The titanium plate holding it all together, including keeping my head attached. shifted and is only slightly uncomfortable, but pinching some nerves in my arm causing numbness.

@RMZ298 4 жыл бұрын

Great review and riding, nice to see a strong rider comparing these on real trails!

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@RMZ298 Thanks for the support! 👍

@voltagefrogmatthias2375 4 жыл бұрын

Great video 🔥🤙🏻. And yes, please compare using an ASI Controller (with 72v).

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Voltagefrog Matthias Thank you! I hope to get my hands on one soon.

@freedomseeker667 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely man You got to do a review on that it's a whole different beast with those mods. It should be nearly equivalent to the KTM but with a lot less weight.

@nightfoxairsoft 4 жыл бұрын

I think this comparison would be more fair and interesting if the surron had the 72v battery and top end esc.

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@CrazyMountainGoat I agree! Would love to try a 72v kit but I don't have one right now. Hopefully soon.

@irishkitty7257 3 жыл бұрын

I am 6’1, 220lbs. Will these bikes be big enough for me or will they look too small.

@renemogensen580 4 жыл бұрын

Please tell more about the trottle ! i have the Black adition bike and whant the electric trottle. Do you have a part nr or link??

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@rene mogensen I am doing a giveaway on May 22 for 4 of these throttles. I do not know where you can buy them at the moment because Sur-Ron sent them to me directly to try out. Here is how you can win one this week: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iMtpZNF9sb-nn2w.html

@dash0173 3 жыл бұрын

as an avid mountain bike racer who hasnt been part of the MX or electric moto-cross stuff, im really shocked to see how many similarities there are between these bikes and my DH mtb. you've got a rockshox boxxer fork, which is a DH bike fork. maybe this is something ill have to look into!

@surronzak8154 Жыл бұрын

Sur ron has mostly MTB parts, good for stock, a bit short when upgraded power

@zydecbro 4 жыл бұрын

im impressed, your really fast on both bikes

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Zydecobro bro Thanks man!! 👍

@rnor3146 3 жыл бұрын

Hi and thanks for these vidéo! So fast are the 2 Bikes, but, mainly, so fast you are!!!! Many thanks again. Forza. 👍👌🤙😉

@ElectricCycleRider 3 жыл бұрын

@Rno R Thank you for the support!

@rnor3146 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElectricCycleRider my Great Pleasure!!!!! 😉👍👌🤙

@BrianLampright913 4 жыл бұрын

Best review I’ve ever seen on both of these bikes! Using the lit pro and doing a head to head is awesome. Please do this on a KTM300/250 2-stroke I would be very interested. BTW our 2 SurRon’s are arriving tomorrow! Can’t wait. The KTM Freeride is WAY too overpriced I’d much rather have my KTM300 for that price.

@ElectricCycleRider 4 жыл бұрын

@Brian Lampright Thanks man! I appreciate the feedback. Yes, plan on doing a 300 vs Freeride on here soon. I hear you, the 300 is a hard bike to beat at that price. Hope you have fun with the new Sur Rons.

@mechanicalman1068 4 жыл бұрын

Performance wise, maybe interesting. But really, if you’re interested in an electric bike a 2 stroke smoker is probably not on the radar. Not really comparable bikes. And lots of places don’t allow 2 strokes anymore.

@shredmas 3 жыл бұрын

@@mechanicalman1068 That's only a problem in CA. In Oregon, NV, UT, CO most people off-road are on two strokes. I own a YZ125, YZ250, Zero MX, & a Sur-Ron.