Elektron Syntakt : Is It For You? My Honest Opinion.

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Hello there!
The Elektron Syntakt is finally here. This instrument have been polarizing since the beginning, and with this video I will try to convey my honest opinion on it.
I feel Elektron packed a lot of great stuff in this more-rhythm-oriented machine. Will it fit my workflow? Will it good for you?
Let's find out together.
In the video I'm using also an Oto Boum.
Enjoy!
00:00 Introduction
02:00 Overview
07:00 The Digital Machines
11:00 The Analog Machines
17:50 Patch 01
19:40 Patch 02
22:25 Patch 03
23:45 Patch 04
24:50 Patch 05
25:50 Patch 06
26:20 Patch 07
27:40 The ( LONG ) conclusions
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@qWhertz
@qWhertz 2 жыл бұрын
Very good video, I liked it. As an owner of A4, Octa, Sps1 and Mono, this was the first product that caught my attention again in a lot of time. I'm watching all the vids related to it and I think it sounds great, even if apparently its balance seems more focused on the drum sounds.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I think that too, but im sure we will hear more melodic demo soon!
@sinewaymusic
@sinewaymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the honest, unbiased review!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@minorjoy-records
@minorjoy-records 10 ай бұрын
Great work to whoever the different hands are attached to, love the digitone the velocity mods method work well on here too. This is the most interesting channel for me. Keep up the great work.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 10 ай бұрын
thanks a lot for your kind words!
@rectangulo2306
@rectangulo2306 2 жыл бұрын
I also love Pole. His album “3” is my all time favorite record. It’s absolutely amazing. Great video!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I had the pleasure to play at a festival with him. Hero!
@rectangulo2306
@rectangulo2306 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Wow!!!!! really????? That’s insane.
@subradial
@subradial 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Love Pole's stuff!
@kuanjian
@kuanjian 2 жыл бұрын
Came for the syntakt. left wanting a Boum! I think the Syntakt is great. My thoughts that for 90% of people its good enough. I sold the digitakt because I am just not a sample guy. I think this is like a swiss army knife. The price is high but I think with the global situation everything has gone up 20-30%.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Can't recommend the oto enough
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
good point!
@patrickray3639
@patrickray3639 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, But I cannot justify the extra price.It will go down over time. 1 year later. I suggest people hold off. My guess is honestly It will go down.
@benhall2235
@benhall2235 Жыл бұрын
I have the Digitakt and I know what you mean. I’m more of a synth guy than sample guy but I just can’t bring myself to sell it. I love it but I just am far more comfortable sculpting sounds through synthesis than sampling. I will probably end up with digitone and syntakt too eventually. I do love the sequencers.
@neonpop80
@neonpop80 Жыл бұрын
@@benhall2235 Yea, me too. Im attached to my Digitakt and I feel the Syntakt fits me more. But I cant let go of it and I like having the option of sampling any sound I like. I also have many synths that Im happy with, it's just a hassle to connect them to the Digitakt for the tracks I want to create. Syntakt seems very convenient. Too expensive so I'll wait and MAYBE.
@colinsnape
@colinsnape 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. So many influencers trying to sell me or build their 'brand'. I found this one of yours worth a hundred of theirs.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I try to just talk about things I like and really use :)
@subradial
@subradial 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual, thank you for sharing your thoughts, enjoyed the sounds and dubby compositions as well! As an owner of DT, DN, OT & MD I still struggle to decide if I really need this or to eventually add the Rytm MKII, both very tempting...
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, you are really covered. I always advice to just try and eventually send back, no harm in doing that!
@subradial
@subradial 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic yes, you are right but as elektron user/lover I'm sure you understand it - just feels like it 'should' join the rest of family! :-) for me the problem with sending gear back is that I Iove most of the new gear and don't want to send it back at all! :D
@dublplus3332
@dublplus3332 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your full analysis. Since its release I have been subliminally hoping to find a review that hypnotizes my lust to justify the purchase. Another 'nope.' I appreciate it.
@sinewaymusic
@sinewaymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Same here. It's crazy how GAS works. I want to like it, but every time I hear it, it's like I'm missing something. It's somewhere between modern electronic music and a Sega Megadrive.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
If this wasn't my "job" I would be more cautious in buying new things. I have to say that so far im enjoying it , but let's see in the next few weeks.
@sinewaymusic
@sinewaymusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Would love to hear how you're able to push it into more interesting, warm sound territory, maybe with a touch of analog and digital fusion. 😊 I loved the intro lead/bass line and sound btw. There's definitely potential in this machine with the right hands on it.
@TimH123
@TimH123 2 жыл бұрын
It might just be that we share some similarities of outlook or approach, or just that your personal style is very appealing, but I really enjoy your reviews, and pretty much all of the content on your channel actually. Thanks for making it 👍
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks Tim! happy to hear that!
@flaviobanterla
@flaviobanterla Жыл бұрын
Beautiful patches you created, thanks for the useful video
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@grandmasterjo1
@grandmasterjo1 2 жыл бұрын
As always excellent information on the product Super video. Loved your last breaky patch Pls don’t erase it from the machine. If ever I’m gona get the syntakt that’s the patch I want 🤪😜 You’re perfectly right about 1. Substituting the Rytm 2. the price. Should hv been in the $750 bracket since most of it is borrowed and pinched from other machines. However the syntakt has its own personality.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Will probably share that patch sooner or later :)
@Bobo
@Bobo Жыл бұрын
I have to save that the music you are able to create with this is very very good and I just love it!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
thanks!!
@Bobo
@Bobo Жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic btw I bought one after listen to this 😁
@alexwestconsulting
@alexwestconsulting 2 жыл бұрын
Thx much. I trust your opinion immensely, especially on Elektron gear, more than any other youtuber.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that! I am an Elektron fanboy, so I might be biased, but I try to be as honest as possible.
@albird_official
@albird_official Жыл бұрын
Great Video! Finally ordered one! 😬 Will come back for more info!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
:)
@donadoma
@donadoma 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! 👍 I have it for a view days and love it. A bit pricey, but worth it, imo.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I thinks is a fun box!
@Duskmos
@Duskmos 2 жыл бұрын
AH! Great video and walkthrough as usual! Also, your ask for an Elektron mixer type box, YES. I took their survey a while back and made that request pretty clearly myself haha. Also a MKII format Octatrack would be amazing (maybe combine the two?!?). I'm ready haha. I just ordered a Model 1 though so I might have to justify the purchase to myself but hey, always in pursuit of a better setup and workflow. =)
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yes I feel a mixing board from electron would be amazing!
@ardlersaint9429
@ardlersaint9429 5 ай бұрын
I like to keep the number of machines down to 3 at any given time, so the Octatrack IS my mixing board and it's great at that. Obviously whatever the 3 machines are all go through the Boum :)@@OoraMusic
@theuntouchables808
@theuntouchables808 2 жыл бұрын
Great VIDEO . I agree with you , These Takt boxes are missing 2 delay and 2 reverbs . one of each is just not enough. I'm considering selling Machinedrum for this as i miss Conditional trig on the MD . Hopefully they will add the compressor & even more Machines on future updates .
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hard to support the selling of the MD. That is a modern classic and I would keep it :)
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
try to add the super commander to MD!
@theuntouchables808
@theuntouchables808 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic yea . ones you really get into the MD you realise how Classic it really is . It's got all those crazy Hart-house Stabs , Those hypnotic Mulero bells type of sounds . But again like any Deep machine, it's only as good as the time you put in to it . tuff tuff decision
@theuntouchables808
@theuntouchables808 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic yea I need to see a proper review of those. thought it was quite pricey for what it is . Not sure it can do exactly what the new gen of Elektron boxes can do. I have the MD MKI so it's quite limited for the music i Make . It's perfect for ppl that use one bar loop in a live situation like techno .
@pauwels_francois_djset
@pauwels_francois_djset Жыл бұрын
I'm new to this and this will be my first machine. I love techno and I've been a dj for a very long time. It's quite an investment for me because I don't have a big income. I plan to start having fun with it and then I think I'll buy ableton live to start the serious stuff ;) thanks for your video! I hesitated between a tr8s and a microfreak but I think I'll turn to this elektron syntakt because I've seen a lot of demos and I love what it does.
@FNX_Techno
@FNX_Techno 11 ай бұрын
Good decision!
@klonhead
@klonhead Жыл бұрын
great channel and content. thanks
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@wreignone
@wreignone 2 жыл бұрын
I love honest reviews 🔥
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@thegoony
@thegoony 2 жыл бұрын
Got mine yesterday, its a great little drum machine, with added bonus of a great mono analog DVCO & FM synth.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
agreed!
@ephrimvael
@ephrimvael 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the cool presentation! Does Syntakt have any natural sounding, acoustic drum kits? ..such as the Abbey Road kits in NI Maschine?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
no, its all synth like
@johnnyraphaell
@johnnyraphaell 2 жыл бұрын
Heeii Oora great tutorial thanks!!! You said that you use overbridge still. I had a digitakt and digitone a year ago abd used overbridge. I am recording other synth with live playing the keys and overbridge added 30 ms of latency. This doesnt work when playing keys. Its cool when you are sequence based only. So my Question: is overbridge still adding 30 ms of latency? Thank you very much!! Greetings Jo
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
it had some latency but I think is less than that, will have to check!
@antfactor
@antfactor Жыл бұрын
Interesting. I've been watching a number of reviews of this machine. I have a Digitakt, and a Digitone - the latter of which I don't generally feel I take 'full' advantage of (despite some some really fun/interesting ambient experiments). i'm wondering if I should consider exchanging this for the Digitone. I think I'd be fine with a simplified FM engine - and far more options with FX engines, etc. And (it seems) one can modulate the FX engines from LFOs, trigs, etc. - which seems like LOTS of crazy fun. Thoughts? And cheers from Chelsea... 👌
@thekopekemaster
@thekopekemaster Жыл бұрын
I agree that it seems more targeted at rhythm, but I have found that basically every drum engine I've played with so far on it can pretty easily be turned into a tonal synth engine. One thing that disappoints me a bit is that only a few engines allow you to have infinite decay (and the overall decay is pretty short), but that's a fairly minor point and something I'm sure they could change with an update. I do agree that it's a bit pricey (I was expecting $800, same as my Digitakt), but coming from the opposite position as you, *only* having a Digitakt, this is still a good deal. Having the "best of" from across Elektron's catalogue makes this a single product that can do pretty much anything I'd want (especially when combined with my Digitakt), as opposed to trying to decide which more specific device I want to get, or to sink a lot MORE money into getting multiple devices, rather than just getting a Syntakt.
@normalregular
@normalregular 2 жыл бұрын
To me it just seems like a stripped down more commerical Machinedrum which is fine, I'm sure it will scratch that itch some people might have not being able to get a Machinedrum so this is the next best thing. But I would like them to do a new big box device. They haven't done one since RYTM.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I feel Elektron is going in a different direction. I don't feel there is still the edge that the company had when MD came out. It is totally fine as probably became a vastly popular brand, so it have to work for broader audiences. Also believe that their machine are always great tools even though they have self imposed compromises.
@earlsfield
@earlsfield 2 жыл бұрын
Hah you had to get it too. Although i know whats in it, i still wanted it, so i ordered one as well. I really need to see if there is anything new that I dont have in MachineDrum and Analog Rytm. BTW Boum is killing it.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
nothing new, I feel it is a great mix of stuff, so I kinda like it a lot!
@flyingfrogofdeath9616
@flyingfrogofdeath9616 Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend this machine if you already have a hood sampling machine such as the SP404 MK2?
@alexmakey8428
@alexmakey8428 Жыл бұрын
Great review! Would you recommend Syntakt or Octatrack for music production?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
Id go with octa.. :)
@alexmakey8428
@alexmakey8428 Жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic thanks!
@TJ-rf1xl
@TJ-rf1xl 5 ай бұрын
I actually just sold my Syntakt, and am buying an A4Mk1 (and pocketing the difference). The Syntakt is an amazing unit especially if you plan on performing live, it really does a lot - a 'Jack of All Trades' sort of unit. Also probably great to have if you want to be totally DAW-less. But for someone who doesn't perform live and has no problems integrating my hardware in with Ableton, it really went unused a lot of the time. I decided to try A4 instead for the exact reason you mention -- it seems like it goes a lot deeper in the Analog space, which is what I need. Hopefully I won't regret it!
@Molluszk
@Molluszk Жыл бұрын
Do you use your Faderfox PC12 with Syntakt? Would be perfect right? 12 channels and 6 encoders for all the 12.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
it would! I just released a video about doing something like that!
@nostandingonlydancin
@nostandingonlydancin 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you still have the LXR02 and how you feel this compares….Only thinking about the digital percussion aspects and internal sequencers?
@nostandingonlydancin
@nostandingonlydancin 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the honest and revealing review. Someone had to. 😉
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
the lxd sounds is closer to the nord drum to me. I prefer kicks on the Syntakt, the lxd has moree control on percussions and hats
@nostandingonlydancin
@nostandingonlydancin 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic 🙏
@NikoNoxious
@NikoNoxious 2 жыл бұрын
this box will do a lot more if you lack tons of gear, but it just doesnt sound fat. I just got an LXR 02 yesterday. I am in love with its instant sound design and dark digital techno sound. this syntakt seems like it's limitations bleed into its sound in a bad way. LXR 02 so far seems like it's limitations enhance the workflow while sounding fresh. (while it IS a simpler device i admit)
@alphacypriot
@alphacypriot 2 жыл бұрын
Do they keys stick? 5 years later my Digitakt is still hanging up and I play it often. Does it have song mode?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
keys feels nice, no song mode
@Schtoopot
@Schtoopot 2 жыл бұрын
Who is the artist you mention at 24:46 Stephan?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Stephan Betke, aka Pole
@ardlersaint9429
@ardlersaint9429 5 ай бұрын
I wasn't sure about Syntakt but, as a Dub Techno guy, I totally got it in this video
@Hegelmusic
@Hegelmusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hey. Great informative review. I am on verge of either buying the rytm or syntakt. i thought that the biggest difference is the sampling capabilty the rytm has so not sure if the syntakt really can replace the rytm, right?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
if you don't use samples and pads, I would give it a try. For me it would suffice, BUT is just my personal experience!
@vulpixninetales
@vulpixninetales 2 жыл бұрын
Rytm 100%
@TG-ct2ss
@TG-ct2ss Жыл бұрын
What's the name of the Compressor on the tabel?
@Molluszk
@Molluszk 2 жыл бұрын
Can we say that Syntakt can do all (and more actually) what Digitakt can, except sampling? Thx
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
To me make more than DT, bc I don't use samples :)
@famousarmystudio
@famousarmystudio 2 жыл бұрын
I had the same feeling when I got mine. Since I've owned all of the Elektron boxes, this kind of felt like pieces of what I already own crammed into one box. I'm not sure if I'll keep it yet as its not blowing me away in its sound.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I think the conveniency of it will make me keep it
@PORRFNK
@PORRFNK Жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Agree, the sound is "meh"
@LaymensLament
@LaymensLament 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what people are angry about. The point is the following: this is an analog+digital drum machine. There is no real analog drummachine postioned between a Drumbrute and a Rytm. So this is your middle ground now. I was close to buying an A4 to use mainly for drums, just because there was no middle ground. I wish Syntakt was more focused on analog + basics and it being 2-300e cheaper but this is still so close to EXACTLY what I wanted that I ordered one to try and likely keep. The formfactor and interface are fantastic (I own a digitakt but it is not for me). This is useful not only for performing 'electronic' artists but just as a studio tool. Small footprint analog drums + fx, whats not to love? Its one of the few things thats really better than doing it in software. Edit: and btw. i can fully see that if you have a rtym or some other electron boxes this is not too exciting.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Great points, I am very happy with it and while is not anything new, is useful and sounds great!
@_monoaural1993
@_monoaural1993 Жыл бұрын
Grande!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
grazie
@256k_
@256k_ 2 жыл бұрын
patch 02 sounded very much like a model cycles actually.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yes, I used a lot of model cycles derived machines!
@Limbic1000
@Limbic1000 2 жыл бұрын
Patch 05 is gooood
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks mate!
@romenpheonixx7005
@romenpheonixx7005 2 жыл бұрын
Music is SO TIGHT too!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
thanks :)
@eeeejcicjn
@eeeejcicjn Жыл бұрын
Hello! Any plugins out there sounding like this?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
try fors.ms opal
@jolieuke
@jolieuke 2 жыл бұрын
You make this instrument sing ! First video who makes me want it but nevertheless, I will not buy it ... Sure the Oto Boum helps to warm the sounds of it.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Its a cool device but if you own other boxes might be redundant
@jolieuke
@jolieuke 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic Indeed, that's what I was afraid of. Thanks !
@mofateam1
@mofateam1 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you. I´m missing arpeggiator and glide function.
@griffithmorgan4966
@griffithmorgan4966 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I missed that. Does the Syntakt not have those, or did you mean in the review?
@sinewaymusic
@sinewaymusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@griffithmorgan4966 it lacks both, sadly.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yep..
@lockyp204
@lockyp204 2 жыл бұрын
@@sinewaymusic possible in an upgrade maybe?
@sinewaymusic
@sinewaymusic 2 жыл бұрын
@@lockyp204 Definitely possible. Let's hope! It would make it a more interesting device for me for sure.
@user82938
@user82938 2 жыл бұрын
Just FYI, "munching on box" is slang for something dirty.
@lockyp204
@lockyp204 2 жыл бұрын
😬
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
ahahah really? he was actually doing that!!
@d4rk_l1nk_techno
@d4rk_l1nk_techno 2 жыл бұрын
I think that's a great machine to feed an Octatrack, plenty of fm and analog drums and synths
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
that's what going to happen
@sebbosebbo9794
@sebbosebbo9794 Жыл бұрын
sadly no song Mode....no fader..... and hope thy fix the Bugs... p.s. whst Otto device is it..?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
is the boum!
@hassholl59
@hassholl59 Жыл бұрын
No music from you on Syntakt... definitely our loss.
@MrMarcLaflamme
@MrMarcLaflamme 2 жыл бұрын
I would also love to see a mixer in the Digi format! I don't need a sampler (Digitakt) but I would love to have the mixer/effect capability of the Octatrack!
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
totally!!!
@quantummonastery
@quantummonastery 4 ай бұрын
My idea for a simplified modern octatrack: Digi sized box, cross fader at the bottom (middle) 2 screens, one for "A" side one for "B" side. Each screen shows capabilities of applying fx, incoming audio or songs/samples loaded onto the drive (or usb input). Can have 4- 8 parameter knobs. Ability to use as a traditional dj controller with song playing on side A and being able to cue the next song on side B. Master effects can be applied to the whole mix with freeze delays, reverb, looper, compressor etc. maybe can borrow the envelope follower and analog saturation from analog heat. The big thing to set it apart from other boxes could be to have presets for transitions. You can have a bunch of transition presets like risers or whatever (and be able to customize your own) that you can put down as a trig and it will activate a transition over 4 or 8 bars into your next song . Give it 4 stereo inputs maybe an SD card.
@HorstDerHoden22
@HorstDerHoden22 Жыл бұрын
the rooster in the background :D
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
ahahah good ol country
@Klocaine237
@Klocaine237 2 жыл бұрын
You can definitely tell the difference with that pedal on some wh1000x m3
@raevon6845
@raevon6845 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a heavy Elektron user. I got the Syntakt, I think that the price of the ST as of now is not simply worth it, it should be in the same price range as the Digitakt. The Syntakt is really just a a little frankenstein box that consists of some of the concepts of three earlier boxes, it’s really nothing new. The lack of arpeggios, polyvoices and much more. Also this is just my opinion on the color of the screen, it is a boring white color, I prefer the yellow color graphics of the DT’s. I do still like the form factor. The price would be more accurate if the box had a built in battery. Just saying, i think this was a missed opportunity. The box feels kinda just same same, it doesn’t feel bold enough. love ur videos, Cheers
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on some points. This box is super fun but they did not push any forward. Hopefully the machine has space for improvements.
@playeveryday01
@playeveryday01 2 жыл бұрын
I don't own one, but this is exactly how I felt.
@chsm72
@chsm72 2 жыл бұрын
I would call that box a Overbridge Patchbay
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Not far from it!!
@jojjeboy
@jojjeboy 2 жыл бұрын
You should get the Rytm mk1 instead, the design is way better and goes with the octa well.
@FuZZbaLLbee
@FuZZbaLLbee 2 жыл бұрын
I wish thé Octatrack MK2 was the shape of the Rytm MK2 to be honest.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I might do that sooner or later
@doverbeachxyz
@doverbeachxyz 2 жыл бұрын
This. I sold the mk2 to buy a mk1, much much better, the form factor it just helps you focus on performance and the mk1 trinity it just so perfect for live performances (I have the octa mk2 though). All that said, imho syntakt it's not a replacement for a Rytm, ofc it shares some analog machines but it can't layer analog with samples (the strongest point imho, because those analog engines are good but not great), it doesn't have song mode, parameter slides, but most important it sound different and it doesn't have all that gritty, dark character that the Rytm has and the digital engines are nothing special. If 1600 eur for a Rytm mk2 may be a lot, 700 eur for a Rytm mk1 it's a steal.
@k0v4l
@k0v4l 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen exact opposite opinions, this box is much better than Rytm MK1.
@doverbeachxyz
@doverbeachxyz 2 жыл бұрын
@@k0v4l Well It depends on what one is looking for. To me the most important thing Is the sound and syntakt Is not even close to that dark, glued sound the rytm has. Syntakt sounds a bit like a cycles, but without that lo-fi character and the analog engines sound pretty generic. Not to mention that Is limited in what you can achieve with sound design. With the rytm you can really go crazy with sample chains and the analog engines combined together. You don't have individual outputs and with 12 tracks that's not Ideal. Overbridge Is not an option to jam in a studio with other gears due to latency. Prices of analog mk1 (rytm and a4) are going up for a reason. Ofc I understand why someone would like to swap their rytm for a syntakt. But the rytm remains in another League imho.
@Iredidv
@Iredidv 2 жыл бұрын
Can you attach a midi keyboard and play drums and synths chromaticly?
@harveytherobot
@harveytherobot 2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yes!
@JLeonSarmiento
@JLeonSarmiento Ай бұрын
Chord machine gets a bad rap, but it’s a dub monster both in the M:C and in the ST
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Ай бұрын
I agree with you!
@G4Nazarener
@G4Nazarener 2 жыл бұрын
A groovebox is always a compromise between sequencer and sound engine. If you use anyway several synthesizers in your setup I would recommend a Deluge for its sequencer, sampling and audio multitracking. I think the Syntakt could be interesting if you are a minimalistic person who wants to use and own only one single device.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
had the deluge, amazing machine. This one is a compromise , true, and maybe a bad one for someone. I am happy to have all my favorite machine in a box, so it works nice for me!
@Hysteric_Subjects
@Hysteric_Subjects 2 жыл бұрын
Multitracking with Deluge? I found wasn't able to do that, maybe missed something. Just sold mine, (might regret someday, but can always get another if so)...so had to record off everything track by track song by song, took a while. Again, maybe I missed a fundamental.
@Hysteric_Subjects
@Hysteric_Subjects 2 жыл бұрын
The Deluge is great, but I don't think it sounds nearly as good as Elektron gear does. It's definitely the most capable box I've worked with ever, but it's more capable than it's hardware was ultimately designed for imo just a thought
@G4Nazarener
@G4Nazarener 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hysteric_Subjects Absolutely! A good sound is a question of taste, but also the access to the sound is important. They sound capabilities might be great, but the user interface sucks. If you use several synthesizers in a setup the sequencer becomes more important. The Deluge can be taken outdoors for a jam, you can record samples with the mic. Later back in the studio you replace the internal sounds with your synthesizers. IMO the Deluge works perfectly in this way. I use it mainly as drum sampler, audio tracker, sequencer.and arranger. Finally it’s more important for me how a groovebox contributes to my setup than its own sound capabilities. I don’t like to operate on different sounds on one machine. Its more convenient to have as much user interfaces as you have instrument sounds. And there will never be a groovebox which can sound like all available synthesizers on the market.
@Hysteric_Subjects
@Hysteric_Subjects 2 жыл бұрын
@@G4Nazarener too true my man. I’ll prob be having that back at some point. Right now must give the household finances czar the impression of fiscal conservation in my desire to explore other gear, otherwise I’d just have stacked lol
@urbancanyons8871
@urbancanyons8871 2 жыл бұрын
are you on a farm? That sounds like a cockerel crowing in the background! Big change from the car horns in NY 🙂
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I am! my family Tuscany farm. Lot of animals !
@FuZZbaLLbee
@FuZZbaLLbee 2 жыл бұрын
“I prefer smaller devices” Vermona perfourmer 😀
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
ahahaha you got me :D ( And id love the perfourmer to be smaller )
@FuZZbaLLbee
@FuZZbaLLbee 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic that would be cool for out of studio use
@romenpheonixx7005
@romenpheonixx7005 2 жыл бұрын
Is there anything comparable to the Boum that’s not 700$?
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
oh man, tried many, too is the one id pick in a second again if stole. Elektron heat is nice too but expensive and overkill. Is hard to find a stereo unit. I recommend trying to save and invest in one Boum!
@romenpheonixx7005
@romenpheonixx7005 2 жыл бұрын
Ok. Thanks 🙏🏽
@YukioBergholdt
@YukioBergholdt 2 жыл бұрын
FMR RNLA 7239
@va941
@va941 2 жыл бұрын
But I paid 650 for my mpc one....Im spoilt for it...hard to BELIEVE that anything can surpass that thing in versatility....well...lets see what superbooth has to offer us...
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I'll be there!!
@WaveRiderMusic
@WaveRiderMusic 2 жыл бұрын
it is like the new monomachine
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
more or less!
@urbancanyons8871
@urbancanyons8871 2 жыл бұрын
My take on what I have seen so far with the Syntakt is that as an owner of an Octatrack, Digitakt, and Digitone, I wouldn’t swap out any of those for it or buy it in addition. However, if I didn’t already have a Digitone I might consider it and if I didn’t already have any Elektron box at all, I’d definitely consider it. My main issues are the price, which takes it into MPC territory, and that too many of the machines are based on the Cycles which used to own but found too restrictive.
@256k_
@256k_ 2 жыл бұрын
as a MPC user (both old and new) and a syntakt owner, i would say that they do not have anything in common. completely different workflows and each have their own features and special powers. i dont think that's fair to compare the 2 in my opinion. the price is very justified considering the extra tracks, and all the analog circuitry.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
As you said , if I did not have any electrons, this would be a killer entry!
@aseomg
@aseomg 2 жыл бұрын
The Syntakt was probably going to be part of the Model: series but seeing how that lineup is not doing as hoped, especially with the battery handle issues...releasing it in the Digi lineup and at a higher price was the best option for them.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
could be. I hope this has room for great updates in the future.
@Eightball69
@Eightball69 2 жыл бұрын
How are you making the rooster sounds? 🤣
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
years of sound design !
@plutostube
@plutostube Жыл бұрын
"Is It For You?" I still I don't know cause you used a audio processor on top it :))))))
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
Just get it , is nice.
@YukioBergholdt
@YukioBergholdt 2 жыл бұрын
It sounds harsh even through the Boum imho
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
might be my heavy hand tho!
@pk3776
@pk3776 2 жыл бұрын
👍❤️🙏🇬🇧👌
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
:)
@Bestmann3n
@Bestmann3n 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just tired of Elektron withholding features for no good reason. I didn't really care all that much about MIDI arp for Digitone, but I loathe Elektron for being cynically petty enough to withhold it from me. Not interested in playing that game when there are other companies around who always make the best products they can. Sold all my Elektrons, not buying again unless they change.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I see what you saying and it is a little frustrating that they withhold features. I guess in the end it is still a company and need to make money tho
@Bestmann3n
@Bestmann3n 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic I just don't think anyone would have not bought an Octatrack because their Digitone already had Midi arp.
@Randuski
@Randuski Жыл бұрын
The thing is, it's everyone. How many samplers are mono only? Limited sample time, polyphony limits. Like, i don't care if it ups the price. I want the best gear. I don't want to compromise. I have still yet to find the groove box im looking for. Theres always these dumb compromises, and im not even asking for much 🤣
@ZenMountain
@ZenMountain Жыл бұрын
"For no good reason"?? You've got to be kidding me. Same as every company, they do it for the most important reason there is. It's called MONEY. I'm sure Elektron is appalled by the fact that you don't like them.
@averageenthusiast7616
@averageenthusiast7616 Ай бұрын
@@ZenMountain No >good< reason. The machine drum, monomachine, and octatrack were excellent machines that felt like they crammed everything they could into those boxes without holding back, and were all very successful, I think it’s perfectly fair to be upset at new elektron.
@marcosrotllan
@marcosrotllan 2 жыл бұрын
Its just too expensive
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, a couple of hundreds too much
@klinkske
@klinkske 2 жыл бұрын
It s a elektron, so no it s not for me :)
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
:D
@easibroeasibrode6381
@easibroeasibrode6381 2 жыл бұрын
No mode song, no sampling... Th sound is weak.. not for me
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
definitely a hard compromise for some!
@hassholl59
@hassholl59 Жыл бұрын
Such a shame as we were all waiting to see what you could do with this box.
@PORRFNK
@PORRFNK Жыл бұрын
I can afford it, but I think it sounds bad, the drums sounds very alike, where are the hats and good snares?
@Claidheambmor
@Claidheambmor Жыл бұрын
No idea how anyone can have an opinion on what is 'for me' when they haven't even met me and know nothing about me.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic Жыл бұрын
hey mate, is the internet, nothing is personal.
@BaltimoreReese
@BaltimoreReese 7 ай бұрын
How can you know what’s in muh head 🥴
@SonicVibe
@SonicVibe 2 жыл бұрын
1000$ and no Polyphony hard pass
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
you have the chord machine, but I hear you!
@SonicVibe
@SonicVibe 2 жыл бұрын
@@OoraMusic yeah it the same chord machine as model samples but I never got along with it
@gz625
@gz625 2 жыл бұрын
This thing looks so UNinspiring to use (like all elektron products). And has really thin sound. Like 12 synth worse than volcas in one complicated and limited box.
@OoraMusic
@OoraMusic 2 жыл бұрын
I guess is a very personal matter, I like the interface.sound then is really personal.
@specialkcitizen6263
@specialkcitizen6263 7 ай бұрын
Elektron makes everyone sound generic
@griffithmorgan4966
@griffithmorgan4966 2 жыл бұрын
Per iquel prezzo non mi manca per niente. YES! You talk about the price point! You DA Man! I am glad to hear you did not get a free one because every other reviewer did and all they do is suck up to Elektron and do not criticize the machine at all. Even if they did not get paid, getting a free 1000 dollar unit is getting paid. Right after seeing the first reviews of the Syntakt I was excited, but then I looked up the price -- NOOOO!! That is the real issue on this unit that no one seems to be talking about. For $999.00 is it really what you want? I saw the videos for this on other channels and lack of the ability to make chords, which only one video had talked about in detail up to that point, is what made me say - ARE YOU KIDDING ME? No chords 1000 dollars. I had watched your video on the Sonicware Liven 8 bit warps; I share that video widely because it really shows how powerful the little thing is for so little cost. It was your video and the ridiculous price of the Syntakt that made me finally buy something new. I am waiting for delivery of my 8 bit warps now, which I found used for 150 dollars. Again, 1000 dollars and no chords vs. 200 dollars and chords. If 6 voices in the bit warps isn't enough, I may buy the Liven XFM and then for less than 400 dollars I get 12 voices! When I hear the demos on Syntakt half of what I am hearing seems to be internal effects. Well, I can buy a powerful shimmer verb for half the price of the Syntakt and then use it on anything I want. I'm still getting a better deal. I am rambling a bit, but for the price - You've got to be kidding me! Only a Elektron Fanboy would spend so much for so little. Are synth users just ignorant consumers who will buy anything shiny and new? I recently built a new system after having been out of music making for decades. I did it with new and used gear. I spent about 1000 dollars on the entire thing, granted I already had some gear. Yet, there are a lot of us who cannot afford to get the high dollar gear. I apologize for my extensive rant, but I felt the cost issue needed addressing. Love your show BTW. I watch it frequently.
@sinewaymusic
@sinewaymusic 2 жыл бұрын
You are also paying for the Elektron workflow. It's really fun, intuitive, fast and above all, yields surprising results. For many musicians, that's exactly what's needed to end the writer's block.
@griffithmorgan4966
@griffithmorgan4966 2 жыл бұрын
@@sinewaymusic I have heard many very positive comments about the work flow in the unit. I am a B.A.S.U. (Broke Ass Synth User) :P I will be fine with the sonic ware unit for 150 bucks used.
@nostandingonlydancin
@nostandingonlydancin 2 жыл бұрын
If you think US$999 is bad, the release price here in Australia is equivalent to US$1280. Nearly 30% more for living in the antipodes. But I will not comment on whether this is fair pricing structure or not - it simply means I will not be considering the Syntakt anytime soon. There are a lot of other instruments on my list before the Syntakt. Which is a shame. It looks useful as a drum machine.
@griffithmorgan4966
@griffithmorgan4966 2 жыл бұрын
@@nostandingonlydancin Just out of curiosity - what items are attracting your attention?
@nostandingonlydancin
@nostandingonlydancin 2 жыл бұрын
@@griffithmorgan4966The day the Syntakt was released I emailed my local store for a pre order. But after 12hr I decided to go with a Sequential Take 5. I needed a polysynth not a groove box. But the point of the Take 5 is that it’s is clearly excellent value. The Syntakt - for me- is either a core element in a dawless set up or some for if ancillary addition to a large studio set up. But either way I could be priced at the same point as the Digitone and digitakt. I am also looking at drum machines. MFB etc. but I am not sure yet. The search is the journey
@drconflict629
@drconflict629 11 ай бұрын
I returned mine. I simply don't like their "machines" type approach for the synth modules. I still love my Digitakt and Octatrack though! I gel way better with their sample based machines.
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