Southern Railway- Saluda Grade Training Video

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elektrosoundwave

elektrosoundwave

11 жыл бұрын

Training video for running a train down Southern Railway's legendary Saluda Grade. This was produced shortly after the 1982 merger between Southern and Norfolk & Western.
Note: KZfaq did something weird and this video is moving faster than my copy is. They moved a bit slower on the actual mountain itself

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@railenthusiast4830
@railenthusiast4830 Жыл бұрын
Mr. Warren just recently passed away. R.I.P. Melvin, you are a legend.
@GeorgiaStateRailfan
@GeorgiaStateRailfan Жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Melvin Warren. You will be missed.
@BackshopRailProductions
@BackshopRailProductions 2 жыл бұрын
I had a family member who worked for the Southern Railway during the flood of 1916 and he saved a passenger train by sending it up the runaway track near Saluda. The engineer wasn’t very happy that he sent his train up that runaway track, but he told him that the bridge at Melrose was washed out and he just saved his life and the lives of the passengers.
@jamesgeorge960
@jamesgeorge960 2 жыл бұрын
that’s very cool thanks for sharing
@likestallwomen
@likestallwomen 9 ай бұрын
I read that in a Trains Magazine Special Issue about mountain railroading, I shook my head when I heard that part about the engineer getting pissed off about that, worse was that 1940 wreck, that was very scary
@paramedicineman89
@paramedicineman89 6 ай бұрын
Wow!
@fastlane250
@fastlane250 Жыл бұрын
I was looking at the route on Google Maps midway through this video and found that the building at 19:48 is labeled as "Melvin Warren's Office". Rated 4 stars with 3 reviews!🤣
@hansenfiet2539
@hansenfiet2539 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a pre-abandonment timetable with this mainline still in it. No less than five pages were devoted solely to detailed instructions on how to run trains up/down Saluda. It was an absolute nightmare. Sadly, that was the very reason it had to be abandoned. I’m still amazed it lasted as long as it did.
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye
@AnthonyAnthony-tk4ye 4 ай бұрын
Everyone sissies nowadays, this was back when real men did railroading
@easleybadboy
@easleybadboy 8 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather Weston Pace worked as a switch man on the grade from the 20s to the 50s. Back then you sat in a switch house and the tracks stayed on the run away spur until the train signaled all was good and then it was switched to the main line. He walked 5 miles one way to the switch house. His wife Fanny Mae Pace once saved a train by running up the grade and flagging it down after discovering a rock slide on the tracks while taking him lunch.
@777jones
@777jones 4 жыл бұрын
It’s cool your grandmother was called Fannie Mae
@bd1128
@bd1128 4 жыл бұрын
@@777jones Yes, Fannie Me is a cool name. It was my mom's name, too.
@viagra5207
@viagra5207 2 жыл бұрын
RIP
@paramedicineman89
@paramedicineman89 6 ай бұрын
So cool to hear the stories about how things were done in the old days.
@TopHatTyson
@TopHatTyson 3 ай бұрын
That is a amazing I've lived next to line for almost my whole life and it's a treasured sight
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 10 жыл бұрын
You know it's the 80s when the electronic fanfare starts playing lol
@CJ_7519
@CJ_7519 3 жыл бұрын
LMAO when the music came on🤣!
@RDC_Autosports
@RDC_Autosports 3 жыл бұрын
i’d give anything to back to the 80s
@CJ_7519
@CJ_7519 3 жыл бұрын
@@RDC_Autosports, you're not the only one!
@25mfd
@25mfd 10 жыл бұрын
MAN I love the 80s safety music.
@MarkInLA
@MarkInLA 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a retired bassist and was just thinking the same thing before reading your's ! The major diff is that this music is all live studio musicians reading real music charts with real instruments and a conductor = soulful, and humanly delivered like not that diff than a train making it over Saluda !! Guts and talent !! Today's soundtracks are cold feeling due to most of it being produced by one person with a synthesizer emulating the instruments; cold, digital, soulless and needs to go away onto the runaway track if you ask me !!!
@robertgarland2233
@robertgarland2233 5 жыл бұрын
Hallmark movies
@ralphjames1211
@ralphjames1211 5 жыл бұрын
Too bad Justin Beiber and the Millinial Woop are what's in in music!!!
@trainzguy2472
@trainzguy2472 5 жыл бұрын
found the song! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJeRrcWWq7y3c40.html
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 4 жыл бұрын
@@MarkInLA: I can see why you'd say that. Listen to the sound track for the original Blade Runner, though, and see if you think it's soulless. All musical genres have their pluses... probably even rap, though I don't see it there.
@SocialistDistancing
@SocialistDistancing 4 жыл бұрын
Back when people cared about their jobs and took pride in their work. That was probably some if the best radio operating I've heard.
@3superpar
@3superpar 3 жыл бұрын
Face it, Grandpa was just smarter than most people today.
@jamielacourse7578
@jamielacourse7578 3 жыл бұрын
Especially when you know the whole damn office will be watching......including the boss....
@ShortArmOfGod
@ShortArmOfGod 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not because they're on video for the entire company to see.
@friesareyummy
@friesareyummy 2 жыл бұрын
@@3superpar Depends on the situation, though.
@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032
@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032 2 жыл бұрын
@@3superpar back in those days, car owners manuals told you how to adjust the valves... today, they tell you not to drink the contents of the battery... #WeAreNotTheSame
@dansisson4524
@dansisson4524 4 жыл бұрын
There was a very in-depth article in TRAINS Magazine many years ago devoted to Saluda. It was written by an engineer fireman who worked tje territory. The safety tracks were the suggestion of an engineer named Pit Ballew who survived a horrific runaway
@dougb5202
@dougb5202 2 жыл бұрын
I was there in the late 2000's. The rails were quite rusty, hadn't seen trains in many years. Looking down the tracks at Saluida and up the tracks at Melrose gives a sense of the very steep grade of this line, nothing like I have seen before.
@general5104
@general5104 Жыл бұрын
Pete Widner is the General Foreman electrical geru that came up with the Saluda Mtn. Switch project. I installed many of the projects. It kept the PC pressure switch from cutting out Dynamic Brake. THANKS FOR POSTING this documentary. It brought back memories. I was never on one of the runs but I worked on those locomotives like they were my own kids.
@paramedicineman89
@paramedicineman89 6 ай бұрын
So basically it was a bypass switch? Thats so cool. The "Saluda Switch"
@davidhyer3404
@davidhyer3404 7 жыл бұрын
"Last fatality was in the 1940's." Try getting a corporate lawyer to give you the ok on mentioning something like that nowadays
@frootloops1696
@frootloops1696 4 жыл бұрын
"Last RECORDED fatality". Keyword: *recorded*
@KnoxvilleRailfanProductions
@KnoxvilleRailfanProductions 4 жыл бұрын
@@frootloops1696 OOF your right!
@Tristanstuff6988
@Tristanstuff6988 2 жыл бұрын
Try me
@heyitshuttz3705
@heyitshuttz3705 2 жыл бұрын
@@KnoxvilleRailfanProductions Oh Jackson, we meet again.
@majikglustik9704
@majikglustik9704 2 жыл бұрын
Won't happen if it concerns Disney.
@DelayInBlockProductions
@DelayInBlockProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Always use your Special Saluda Key.
@kristenroberts5875
@kristenroberts5875 4 жыл бұрын
being from the area, its crazy to see how much the railroad really drove saluda. it once was a bustling little town. now, its a sad shell of what it used to be. hanging on to the hopes that one day the trains will return...
@schnauzahpowahz
@schnauzahpowahz 4 жыл бұрын
I want - no, i NEED more videos like this
@carl6956
@carl6956 8 жыл бұрын
All of you thumbs down haters,this man was running trains before you were born.
@rossbryan6102
@rossbryan6102 4 жыл бұрын
AND PROBABLY NONE OF THEM WOULD MAKE A PIMPLE ON A LUMPY HOGGERS ASS, ANYWAY!!
@terryboyer1342
@terryboyer1342 4 жыл бұрын
They prolly were rooting for a runaway derailment.
@oldspguy4786
@oldspguy4786 5 жыл бұрын
Now that's what I call "Wet-Your-Britches" Track Profile! A great big salute to the old Southern Railway and it's train crews!
@hbruins85
@hbruins85 10 жыл бұрын
Testament to the teamwork that keeps a railroad running every day.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 4 жыл бұрын
That's one of the things I miss about it. CSX train crew, yardmaster trainee and control operator in West Central PA, 1998 - 2008. No long-hood forward on the road, and NO "dismounting" a moving train under the last set of rules I saw.
@sonnydean3187
@sonnydean3187 7 жыл бұрын
Born and raised in a Southern Railway family. My Grandfather was a switch man at Norris Yard in Birmingham for 30 years. SR for ever!
@jonfromstearns
@jonfromstearns 5 жыл бұрын
Sonny Dean My maternal great grandfather was a “railroad bull” for SR out of Somerset, Kentucky. I’m a lifelong and dedicated SOU fan.
@joshuadenny1215
@joshuadenny1215 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonfromstearns my great grandfather was a locomotive fireman out of Somerset in the late 1930’s and 1940’s. My great-great grandfather was the night chief dispatcher in Somerset around the same time and into the 50’s and 60’s. Both worked for Southern. I reckon our great grandfathers probably knew each other. Mine were both named Charles F Denny, Sr. And Jr.
@jonfromstearns
@jonfromstearns 2 жыл бұрын
@@joshuadenny1215 More than likely that they crossed paths. My third or fourth cousin, Edd Winchester, was the Yard Master and scale house supervisor in Stearns for K&T.
@joshuadenny1215
@joshuadenny1215 2 жыл бұрын
@@jonfromstearns Fascinating stuff
@bradleewilliams381
@bradleewilliams381 7 жыл бұрын
Train engineer sounds like Jerry Reed when he talks over the radio👍🏻true Southern Railway
@thirdgengta
@thirdgengta 6 жыл бұрын
HAHAAAAAA!!!!!! "GIT INNARRR, YOU SON-OF-A-B!TCH!!!!"
@bigB6flyer
@bigB6flyer 4 жыл бұрын
“Ole Flash is lookin a little green son, need to stop off at the choke n puke. Come back...” 😂
@brianburns7211
@brianburns7211 4 жыл бұрын
They all sound like Gomer Pyle to me.
@dmoneygc2086
@dmoneygc2086 2 жыл бұрын
The Lousiana law's gonna get you, Amos! 😉
@pos6666666
@pos6666666 7 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize how much work they do. Very cool video.
@mcgreggor
@mcgreggor 11 жыл бұрын
What a great video. I live in Saluda, and remember going to main street back in the 90's as a kid to watch the trains. Fond memories.
@steamsteelproductions
@steamsteelproductions Жыл бұрын
R.I.P. Melvin Warren.
@RickyManner
@RickyManner 25 күн бұрын
I love these old videos. I wish i was rail Fanning when the grade was active. The old Richmond & Virginia Airline track ran behind my house in Greenville, South Carolina. It was used for the concrete plant when i was a kid.
@collegefootballfan7909
@collegefootballfan7909 Жыл бұрын
RIP to the Great Melvin Warren
@rickenbacker315
@rickenbacker315 4 жыл бұрын
I watched one of the last trains go west to east over Saluda. I talked with the engineer awhile, as the conductor was walking for retaining valves. Very interesting...
@HuntOfficial1776
@HuntOfficial1776 7 ай бұрын
Who’s here after buying this route in train simulator and flipping an SD18 off the side of a cliff. I know I am. This video is very helpful. Especially for the southern railway retro pack.
@user-nj1qo7cg8k
@user-nj1qo7cg8k Ай бұрын
I'm a die hard southern fan!! The main line that runs from Washington to Atlanta ran through where I grew up at dryfork va at the 223 milepost. I worked for my cousin who was a contractor to ns when I started helping him. Loved these old high hoods, and love the paint and markings on these locomotives!! Southern railway was a very strong railroad for the territory it covered!! Mygreat uncle was a detective for southern railway. He was stationed out of Knoxville Tennessee. Worked for them from 41 to 79 his name was Vernon Jones.
@douglasskaalrud6865
@douglasskaalrud6865 4 жыл бұрын
Love the EMD 645 turbo in idle.
@Rift45
@Rift45 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! Railroading is at its best with a crew of pros like these guys.
@reneefletcher9308
@reneefletcher9308 3 жыл бұрын
I learned so much. I was just in saluda and saw the dead tracks. I wondered about the history.
@rogerb5615
@rogerb5615 6 жыл бұрын
The Belmont road foreman looks like a worried William Shatner.
@terryboyer1342
@terryboyer1342 4 жыл бұрын
More brakes Scotty!
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 4 жыл бұрын
@@terryboyer1342: Captain, if we run any hotter she'll blow!
@bobbyanderson9633
@bobbyanderson9633 4 жыл бұрын
That's some great train operation.
@enr3870
@enr3870 11 жыл бұрын
As someone who regularily operates trains on 2 to 3% grades, it's not any easier now.
@jamesbuckner4791
@jamesbuckner4791 3 жыл бұрын
@@doctordothraki4378 at this point in time you have to worry about burning out Motors. I live on the southern side of this gradient. And there's two really level locations they're used for locomotives and heavy train switches and the first one is in Spartanburg which is on the opposite side towards the top and the other one is about a hundred miles south of it near Augusta Georgia and whenever there's a really heavy load you can hear the diesel Roar as they start to build up speed for the climb.
@nicksanto882
@nicksanto882 2 жыл бұрын
Neat video!!! Lots of thought and procedure went into getting down the mountain safely!!! It is interesting to see the “Southern” high walkway lights on the locomotives too!
@ralphjames1211
@ralphjames1211 5 жыл бұрын
The North Carolibna Blue Ridge Mountains, home to the steepest mainline railroad grade and home to 3 of the scariest stretches of rural interstate freeways in America I-26 near Saluda Mountain, I-40 in the Gorge and I-40 along Black Mountain Grade!!! God Bless the North Carolina Blue Ridge/Smokey Mountain region! Take it slow, Ten-Foer!!!!
@johnpapa1916
@johnpapa1916 Жыл бұрын
I would really love to see the track restored and at the very least some excursions Saluda must not be forgotten and it must preserved!!!
@chrishachet8622
@chrishachet8622 5 жыл бұрын
My parents live in Hedersonville just north of this. I remember when these tracks were in service.
@KnoxvilleRailfanProductions
@KnoxvilleRailfanProductions 2 жыл бұрын
Trains run up to Hendersonville still so..
@surimenon9260
@surimenon9260 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.. Presentation, thank you for your time and Presentation ❤️
@greglechowski5030
@greglechowski5030 9 ай бұрын
The Asheville area is just a shell of what it one was. There were hundreds of employees that were stationed there now there are only about 30.
@rigstoriches6194
@rigstoriches6194 4 жыл бұрын
This is freaking awesome to watch!
@chadcleary7821
@chadcleary7821 Жыл бұрын
Put together during a time when America was a place where taking pride in a well done job didn't make you an anomaly. Such professionals!
@travelingman484
@travelingman484 10 жыл бұрын
I truly have to say I had no idea untill I saw this video what it takes and what it took back in the days of no dynamic braking. My palms are sweaty just watching these southern gentlemen working that heavy drag.
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 8 жыл бұрын
+Danny Soldano They had dynamic brakes though. Imagine doing this without it.
@Syclone0044
@Syclone0044 8 жыл бұрын
+GEES44DC My train experience is limited to only playing Train Simulator 2015, but it's a quite realistic game. I find that the dynamic brakes only contribute a small amount to braking, let's say 25%, so I never really understood what the purpose is? And what happens to those 600 Amps of power being generated? There isn't like some huge battery that stores up the charge for reuse at the bottom of the grade, is there? Does it all get converted to waste heat somewhere?
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 8 жыл бұрын
Syclone0044 Those games are in no way realistic. Dynamic brakes are very effective. Train weight and grade has a big effect on how the dynamic will respond. Where I run 2 units in dynamic braking and 10000 tons will usually hold a train at speed down our grades of .5% Distributed power also adds efficiency to dynamic operation. Dynamics are great for slowing long trains as using the air usually means a stop as the air takes so long to apply and release. They're great for slowing down only a few mph. You can't do that with the air on a long train. Dynamics also keep the train bunched so if you can do a running release of the air brakes you won't get any slack run out. And yes, the energy created from the traction motors is converted to heat and blown into the sky.
@brainerdrebel
@brainerdrebel 8 жыл бұрын
+Syclone0044 The amperage is created with increased throttle, it isn't stored. The diesel engines creates more amperage by driving a huge generator that creates electricity to the Traction Motors. When I started with Southern in 1971 we ran a lot of trains without Dynamic. We didn't like to use Dynamic because it took more time to get over the road. We would draw down the train line brake and pull against the brakes. Old Conductors hated Dynamic, it can knock you down on a Caboose in and out. The new generation have never ran a train with a caboose on it and most have never ran a Passenger Train with people on it.
@GEES44DC
@GEES44DC 8 жыл бұрын
brainerdrebel Today's train handling rules don't allow for power braking. Most trains are too long to do it anyway. We still get away with power braking on the shorter trains we have from time to time.
@elektrosoundwave
@elektrosoundwave 11 жыл бұрын
Sadly, the line was mothballed in 2001. As far as why, you really have to understand how deadly this line was. I don't have the exact numbers handy at the moment, but until they installed the run away tracks, this was the deadliest stretch of road in North America. This thing has killed a lot of people and injured many more. It requires your complete and undivided attention.
@6000geac
@6000geac 4 жыл бұрын
The road Forman Melvin reminds me of Buford Pusser in the movie Walking Tall.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah! Tough old Joe Don Baker... RIP.
@jimmytucker695
@jimmytucker695 4 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing before i even seen this comment
@Nethanel773
@Nethanel773 10 жыл бұрын
Wow what a great video inside the workings of the railroad itself! Thanks for sharing this.
@telsport
@telsport 9 жыл бұрын
That looks a lot like an old Clinchfield Route. We (my grandaddy HD Cheek was chief dispatcher till 55) ran into Ohio from Spartanburg through Erwin Tn.where the shops were located. And THAT was some railroad building !!!
@RyanHaynieWX
@RyanHaynieWX Жыл бұрын
RIP Melvin Warren, September 21, 1941 ~ February 5, 2023
@VilhjalmrVilhjalmrsson
@VilhjalmrVilhjalmrsson 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty neat seeing the Saluda depot in its original location. Can't wait to get back there for another visit.
@WhereAreTheTrains
@WhereAreTheTrains 10 жыл бұрын
I love this video. Fascinating to see how this worked in detail.
@ostlandr
@ostlandr 10 жыл бұрын
Notice the lead unit running long hood forward, in good old N&W fashion.
@sct913
@sct913 10 жыл бұрын
Both Southern and N&W ran their hood units long hood forward. The official reason for this policy was that it afforded the crews maximum protection in case of collision with a vehicle at a grade crossing.
@brainerdrebel
@brainerdrebel 10 жыл бұрын
sct913 We also didn't have to turn the engines as is required of Windshield locomotives by the FRA. We ran them both ways. Saved a lot of time.
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606
@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 10 жыл бұрын
well really they were running southern fashion
@richardgerlach5156
@richardgerlach5156 6 жыл бұрын
Mark Stockman- High-hood units too!
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 4 жыл бұрын
That caught my eye was the 600 volts warning sign in FRONT of the engineer. On CSX we ran short-hood forward & the sign was behind us. Long-hood forward had a speed restriction due to reduced visibility.
@RedArrow73
@RedArrow73 4 жыл бұрын
That music sounds oh-so-Mainstream 80's!
@telsport
@telsport 9 жыл бұрын
Imagine the surveying entailed in that prep for cutting that road !!!!
@chrismiller9740
@chrismiller9740 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome! Was just at this very spot a few weeks ago
@tunnelmot
@tunnelmot 8 жыл бұрын
Late to the party(this upload is 4 yrs old by now), but this is impressive. 5% grade?! Crazy stuff and nerves of steel. I was nervous with sweaty palms just watching this. I find it funny that Southerners are sometimes stereotyped as dim-witted, but Southern RR tested and proved many of the innovations we see in modern railroading. One innovation in particular being the radio remote helpers(you can see a radio receiver car at 14:52) I was lucky enough to grow up in California where I witnessed a comparable battle with Tehachipi Pass , where the Southern Pacific was another innovator in tech(microwave communication, computer data systems and simulation, etc) and train handling practices. The railroad industry was truly groundbreaking in technology and actually contributed to a lot of what we take for granted today. Amazing stuff indeed.
@amtrakjohn
@amtrakjohn 6 жыл бұрын
Tunnelmot- great post, thank you. I worked with the electrical gangs on SP/NWP, in the early days of the microwave com towers; late 70s. It was a very interesting era. Later I moved to Amtk passenger ops, but never forgot my SP/NWP days. 5% grades on a Mainline is amazing. What is Cajon, about 3.2% maximum?
@likestallwomen
@likestallwomen 9 ай бұрын
@@amtrakjohn Yeah and that's the South Track which now is known as Main 3, I noticed after BNSF put in the 2ND track on the North Track that they use that as a relief track these days,
@Cristianoefc
@Cristianoefc 11 жыл бұрын
What an amazing and challenging operation! Very nice!!!
@paradiseroad6405
@paradiseroad6405 8 жыл бұрын
...Melvin Warren is my hero...takes a railroad man of the highest caliber to get unit coal down that grade...
@royhoco5748
@royhoco5748 8 жыл бұрын
the road foremen of engines on Southern and then NS were the best of the best of our engineers
@brianburns7211
@brianburns7211 5 жыл бұрын
He sounds like Gomer Pyle.
@chrismartin1956
@chrismartin1956 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe but he is far from Gomer in getting a job done coherently, efficiently and safely. Gomer would have had the whole thing in a ditch a mile down the rails.
@imacgra1
@imacgra1 4 жыл бұрын
liked that key to keep the dynamic going even when emergency was applied - could've done with that a couple years ago here in New South Wales (Australia) - train down 18 miles of 1 in 30-33 got out of control. The crew were lucky to survive when that dynamic cut out.
@1978garfield
@1978garfield 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else wonder how he got from that little "office" back to wherever his car was parked? Did he wait for a train going up the mountain?
@soco13466
@soco13466 9 ай бұрын
That railroad passes within less that 2/10 of a mile from my home in Inman, SC. The line north of here is rarely used, since the Saluda grade isn't in use any more. I've been up and down US 176 and I-26 past Saluda Mountain. 176 is hairpin turns between Tryon and Saluda. I-26 has a couple steep grades passing Saluda.
@elektrosoundwave
@elektrosoundwave 9 ай бұрын
My grandparents' house was on Canaday St right next to the Inman Mills spur.
@soco13466
@soco13466 9 ай бұрын
@@elektrosoundwave I'm near Campton RR siding.
@FGC-mx7qt
@FGC-mx7qt 8 жыл бұрын
Yeah, easy as pie. You can even do it in a nice dress shirt and tie and you won't even get your hair mussed. Video shot in good weather w/dry rail. Try this in rain, sleet, snow, or Fall leaves when the rails are as slick as ice. Or, lose one unit, one dynamic brake, have broken knuckle, or get stuck w/a bad-braking train and see how easy it is. NS closed it down 14 years ago primarily because of cost, narrow operating/safety margins, and the availability of less costly, less dangerous alternatives.
@wadepenley7287
@wadepenley7287 7 жыл бұрын
that line isn't closed. trains go up and down that mountain still every day
@dobb673
@dobb673 6 жыл бұрын
Been there lately?
@jeffbrewer9411
@jeffbrewer9411 6 жыл бұрын
It still has trains
@fstop6139
@fstop6139 6 жыл бұрын
Most non railroaders don't know the fallen wet leaves will fuck you up.
@anscrailfanner6812
@anscrailfanner6812 5 жыл бұрын
dobb673 The line has been severed at Landrum, SC. The line is shut down all the way up through Saluda, NC. A shortline RR does still operate on the line in the Hendersonville, NC area.
@Donna677.
@Donna677. 4 жыл бұрын
Hey there!!!! I seen the southern railway film saluda grade so many times before the smart tv but hey I love the 80's promotional film it is so vintage with music and people sound southern accent y'all! It's unbelievable.
@alanloizeaux4881
@alanloizeaux4881 11 жыл бұрын
I work for NS in the Asheville area. Even though the Saluda mountain has been reviewed for re-opening, all indications point to it WILL NOT be reopened. It woiuld be a huge boost to our (Asheville's) train count and morale. I'm not holding my breath.
@disturbed1954
@disturbed1954 11 жыл бұрын
A very interesting video, really enjoyed!
@elektrosoundwave
@elektrosoundwave 11 жыл бұрын
when they were running dash 9's on this thing, they thought they could just run a train up the mountain without having to split it. That didn't work out like they thought it would. Down the hill, they ran about the same.
@96thaerospacemedia48
@96thaerospacemedia48 5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else watching in 2018?
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 5 жыл бұрын
2019 actually.
@jackpetrof9460
@jackpetrof9460 5 жыл бұрын
Just watched it for the first time,pretty good video,really informative. 2-26-19
@Bongofurry
@Bongofurry 5 жыл бұрын
2019
@brianbooher7318
@brianbooher7318 5 жыл бұрын
2019
@arthurtrans
@arthurtrans 4 жыл бұрын
August 2019. I rode behind 4501 UP the grade in the 70's
@sonnydean3187
@sonnydean3187 7 жыл бұрын
Go Big Green! I love this video. My Grandfather was switch man at Norris Yard for 35-years!
@ervmister
@ervmister 11 жыл бұрын
That video is awsome, love it!
@larrydockery7201
@larrydockery7201 6 жыл бұрын
I love those old units
@juneshopper
@juneshopper 4 жыл бұрын
very good takes a great skill to operate a train over this grade. We did visit Saluda and grade did not too bad at Summit, but seeing this and reading articles and pictures or runaways and wrecks told a different story
@stewarttrains98
@stewarttrains98 11 жыл бұрын
really great inside look at how trains once ran over the grade, thanks for posting.
@dianeedwards9958
@dianeedwards9958 11 ай бұрын
Well worth the watch, thank you
@MilePost106
@MilePost106 11 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!! Thanks for posting!!!
@MainlineSouth
@MainlineSouth 2 жыл бұрын
That SD45 sounds good idling. And love the country accent of all peoples…..
@HunterBidenCocaineBag
@HunterBidenCocaineBag 4 жыл бұрын
It took me a minute to understand that computer graphic! This video is, literally, LIFE!
@maryannlendero891
@maryannlendero891 Жыл бұрын
eartqueck
@NW-gi1cp
@NW-gi1cp Жыл бұрын
RIP SALUDA GRADE 😢
@eam33380
@eam33380 11 жыл бұрын
This is a great video! Thanks!
@usersatch
@usersatch 4 жыл бұрын
Im sure that dude loved getting on the lead loco while the horn was going full blast
@Vrider97
@Vrider97 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I saw that too, and wondered why he didn't have any hearing protection!
@KaylansDrone
@KaylansDrone 9 ай бұрын
I bought the saluda dlc for train simulator. This video actually helped me...
@leonwilson1405
@leonwilson1405 10 жыл бұрын
A very good video of railroad safety operation.
@gregoryhill7553
@gregoryhill7553 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent; wow,I love trains great lesson.
@jkeelsnc
@jkeelsnc 9 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. I can only imagine what it was like to operate passenger steam trains in the late 19th century and early 20th century with no runaway safety tracks and with the type of braking that was possible at the time. I wonder if NS has a safety video made like this for Old Fort Mountain? It would be interesting to see that one as well.
@royhoco5748
@royhoco5748 8 жыл бұрын
passenger trains are much lighter than freight trains and much easier to operate on grades.
@robinaustin3280
@robinaustin3280 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic movie I've never seen before great stuff.
@C40dash8
@C40dash8 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting!
@TomPauls007
@TomPauls007 4 жыл бұрын
Super vid! I guess they don't just push the green "GO" and red "STOP" buttons to drive them... Glad they have the cab in rear - don't want to be in the front during a runaway!!!
@westernrailroadvideos99
@westernrailroadvideos99 7 жыл бұрын
"The Mountain of Challenge!" Savage!
@southernrailwayfan1338
@southernrailwayfan1338 4 жыл бұрын
Man me and my dad used to watch these coal trains in Spartanburg
@Railmovercom
@Railmovercom 8 жыл бұрын
Great video, its still there. No trains, but more of a tourist attraction
@tomallen6073
@tomallen6073 Жыл бұрын
Melvin Warren here “ I got your fucking train over that hill again, how about a raise sizzle chest? I’m getting tired of this shit” Melvin out…
@bov634
@bov634 Жыл бұрын
Lol. You know these guys were told about filming beforehand.
@BNforever2009
@BNforever2009 10 жыл бұрын
good video. Good training video
@amtraklover
@amtraklover 3 жыл бұрын
I always thought those Silverside coal cars were really cool looking.
@derekhall1934
@derekhall1934 4 жыл бұрын
They sound and spoke Southern. It was common where I’m from but not so much now. Women who spoke like southern belles ,some were, that is gone also.
@GuyjKite
@GuyjKite 9 ай бұрын
Great video. Those men had to have nerves of steel. You had to think ahead of each movement. RIP Mr Warren.
@thomasjohnson5682
@thomasjohnson5682 4 жыл бұрын
Really interesting to learn about the details of working dynamics and air brakes together, taking the train down the hill step by step. Cool video, pity the picture quality isn't better -- we are spoiled by digital video. The road foreman reminds me of the expert witness in My Cousin Vinny!
@GMan9029
@GMan9029 7 жыл бұрын
Second favorite railroad right here!
@elektrosoundwave
@elektrosoundwave 11 жыл бұрын
Anyway, they had to stop at Saluda and Melrose anyway because they had to set the brakes on the first 25 cars to 50% to get down the mountain. Once they were at Melrose, they then set them back to normal. So you had dynamics, air brakes, and the hand brakes all running to get down safely. You should have seen them split the train into sections to get back up the mountain.
@elektrosoundwave
@elektrosoundwave 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Looking at this, all I can say is that KZfaq had better be glad they don't have to deal with a supervisor for going this fast.
@likestallwomen
@likestallwomen 9 ай бұрын
That's a pretty cool video, but man for years how tough did Southern and then Norfolk Southern, kept this line running for so long and then NS a few years ago finally abandoned it, what took so long for that is beyond me
@doughesson
@doughesson 4 жыл бұрын
And people wonder why trains "randomly" slow down or stop for no apparent reason blocking crossings. I drive for PTI,carrying railcrews around the Memphis area from their hotels to the yard and to their train or back again and to their home yard. I wonder how long he had to think about the procedures that he used daily without hardly thinking about them so he could explain the pressures and voltages in the engines and air systems.
@KutWrite
@KutWrite 4 жыл бұрын
Shoutout to PTI. Your drivers were always on time, helpful and courteous. I ran in West Central PA, out of Connellsville yard. RIP Glenn, aka "Copy" - PTI driver extraordinaire and a very good man.
@jamesridoni
@jamesridoni 5 жыл бұрын
I love the world of trains with cabooses
@dmgibbs1997
@dmgibbs1997 8 ай бұрын
5:50 You've gotta love that Old Cast P5!
@spcascades
@spcascades 11 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. The way things operate these days, if my RFE was at the controls on something like, that, I'd get off and walk! That's no joke.
@RojiRailways
@RojiRailways 5 жыл бұрын
awesome video
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