Elementary vs. Non-Elementary integral battles! (beyond regular calculus)

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blackpenredpen

blackpenredpen

5 жыл бұрын

Integration techniques required: integration by parts, u sub, trig sub, partial fraction, algebra, experience, and patience.
Check out these 8 special functions: • how WolframAlpha defin...
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Battle 1, integral of cos(x^2) vs integral of cos(ln(x)), 1:00
Battle 2, integral of ln(1-x^2) vs integral of ln(1-e^x), 7:55
Battle 3, integral of x^(x/ln(x)) vs integral of x^x, 16:23
Battle 4, integral of x*sqrt(x^3+4) vs integral of x*sqrt(x^4+4), 19:29
Battle 5, integral of x/ln(x) vs integral of ln(x)/x, 32:25
Battle 6, integral of ln(ln(x)) vs integral of sqrt(x*sqrt(x)), 34:00
Battle 7, integral of sqrt(sin(x)) vs integral of sin(sqrt(x)), 36:13
Battle 8, integral of sqrt(tan(x)) vs integral of tan(sqrt(x)), 40:52
Battle 9, integral of tan^-1(x) vs integral of sin^-1(x)/cos^-1(x), 59:13
Battle 10, integral of 1/(1-x^2)^(2/3) vs integral of 1/(1-x^2)^(3/2), 1:04:23
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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
Battle 1, integral of cos(x^2) vs integral of cos(ln(x)), @1:00 Battle 2, integral of ln(1-x^2) vs integral of ln(1-e^x), @7:55 Battle 3, integral of x^(x/ln(x)) vs integral of x^x, @16:23 Battle 4, integral of x*sqrt(x^3+4) vs integral of x*sqrt(x^4+4), @19:29 Battle 5, integral of x/ln(x) vs integral of ln(x)/x, @32:25 Battle 6, integral of ln(ln(x)) vs integral of sqrt(x*sqrt(x)), @34:00 Battle 7, integral of sqrt(sin(x)) vs integral of sin(sqrt(x)), @36:13 Battle 8, integral of sqrt(tan(x)) vs integral of tan(sqrt(x)), @40:52 Battle 9, integral of tan^-1(x) vs integral of sin^-1(x)/cos^-1(x), @59:13 Battle 10, integral of 1/(1-x^2)^(2/3) vs integral of 1/(1-x^2)^(3/2), @1:04:23 file: docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/287ba5_3f60c34605f1494498f02a83c2e62b29.pdf
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 4 жыл бұрын
New challange for me😊
@VibingMath
@VibingMath 4 жыл бұрын
wow nice timestamp! Should be pinned yrself!
@yaleng4597
@yaleng4597 4 жыл бұрын
Where are those special functions?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Yale NG Which ones are you talking about? They never appeared in the video.
@abhishektyagi4428
@abhishektyagi4428 4 жыл бұрын
SIR THE RESOURCES AND LINKS TO LEARN MATHEMATICS THAT YOU SAID IN YOUR VIDEO WITH fematika ARE STILL NOT UPLOADED IN THE DESCRIPTION OF THE VIDEO , please do upload those links
@hunter6549
@hunter6549 4 жыл бұрын
Another approach to the integral of ln(1-x^2) dx would be to factor the inside and then use the product rule of logarithms to get the integral of ln(1-x) + ln(1+x) dx. It's a bit easier to solve this way.
@benjaminbrady2385
@benjaminbrady2385 4 жыл бұрын
Solution to integral of sqrt(tan(x)): There's a blackpenredpen video on that + c
@The1RandomFool
@The1RandomFool 4 жыл бұрын
Just a real minor point of #4: you could also do a hyperbolic trig substitution instead, and you'd get a simple inverse hyperbolic sine term in the final answer instead of the natural logarithm. That natural logarithm is also convertible to the inverse hyperbolic sine.
@OOTMI
@OOTMI 4 жыл бұрын
I love your enthusiasm!
@helloitsme7553
@helloitsme7553 4 жыл бұрын
The way I like to think about the Integral of cos(x^2): with some clever substitutions and Euler's formula it can be shown that it can be written in terms of the integral of e^(x^2) and since that cannot be defined in terms of elementary functions, thus the integral of cos(x^2) cannot be
@aashsyed1277
@aashsyed1277 3 жыл бұрын
heloo
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 4 жыл бұрын
I want to know, how to prove that the integral of a function is not elementary, please tell
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
Chirayu Jain It’s quite hard to prove it mathematically. I think we need to know Galois theory from advanced abstract algebra in order to do so. I actually don’t have experience in it unfortunately.
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen, what a coincidence I started learning abstract algebra just 2 weeks before., 😁
@japotillor
@japotillor 4 жыл бұрын
Galios Theory, it's probably easier to just know which ones are non-elementary, rather than to prove each one individually.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Chirayu Jain You can prove the non-elementariness of an integral using the Risch algorithm.
@jongyon7192p
@jongyon7192p 4 жыл бұрын
@@japotillor That by itself doesn't disprove that there might be some weird unknown way to do an integral.
@Mario_Altare
@Mario_Altare 4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos! Encore, encore :-)
@giovanni1946
@giovanni1946 4 жыл бұрын
So nice to see a notification from bprp just after the first day of school :D
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!!!
@thomasborgsmidt9801
@thomasborgsmidt9801 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video You have made - of those I've seen. I was especially happy to know that ln(ln(x)) is a non-fundamental function. That question has been bothering me for years.
@iabervon
@iabervon 4 жыл бұрын
On the first one, it was obvious, because cos(ln x)=(x^i+x^-i)/2. Power rule, separate real and imaginary coefficients, and put it back to trig functions. Even if you're not going to use complex numbers, you can guess the right integral because cos is like an exponential and goes well with ln and poorly with x^2.
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 3 жыл бұрын
22:21 Euler's substitution sqrt(u^2+4)=t-u would be better idea here Last one third Euler substution (with roots) or integrating by parts also are good option
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
To integrate arcsin(x)/arccos(x) from x = -1 to x = t < 1, let x = cos(θ). Then dx = -sin(θ) dθ. The integrand is now -arcsin(cos(θ))·sin(θ)/θ. The bounds are from θ = π to θ = arccos(t). On the interval (0, π), which is the codomain and range of arccos(t), arcsin(cos(θ)) = π/2 - θ. Therefore, the integrand is -(π/2 - θ)·sin(θ)/θ. Factoring -1 will change the bounds to run from θ = arccos(t) to θ = π, with integrand (π/2 - θ)·sin(θ)/θ. By linearity, this gives the integrals of (π/2)·sin(θ)/θ and -sin(θ). The first integral is equal to (π/2)·(Si(π) - Si(arccos(t))), and the second is equal to cos(π) - cos(arccos(t)) = -(1 + t). Then the total integral is simply equal to [(π/2)·Si(π) - 1] - (t + Si[arccos(t)]). Call (π/2)·Si(π) - 1 = C, so the integral is simply C - t - Si(arccos(t)). Done! For the record, Si(x) is defined as the integral from s = 0 to s = x of sin(s)/s. We can extend the answer to other intervals, but this requires some caution, since arcsin(cos(θ)) = π/2 - θ is no longer true in other intervals.
@VibingMath
@VibingMath 4 жыл бұрын
One-hour long video but u definitely spent a lot more time than that! Your effort should be appreciated! And also the patreon list grows longer everytime 😁👍 PS it's 1am here in HK and yr thumbnail looks cool with some chill 😆
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
Mak Vinci lollll thank you!! I prob will make another thumbnail tho. I don’t think that is that appealing lol
@VibingMath
@VibingMath 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen Hey keep this kind of thumbnail man(but not too many), it makes others curious to press the thumbnail 😁
@sinosodialajay797
@sinosodialajay797 4 жыл бұрын
You are a great teacher
@bodor3139
@bodor3139 4 жыл бұрын
Take my love for this channel from Bangladesh.
@seeeeeelf
@seeeeeelf 2 жыл бұрын
7:55 wouldn't that be easier to just factor 1-x^2 as (1-x)(1+x) and then use the log propertry to split the ln of the product?
@GSHAPIROY
@GSHAPIROY 3 жыл бұрын
15:05 In the last two terms of that answer (before the +C) it was not necessary to use absolute value around the ln input. Respond to this comment if you can figure out why!
@rbradhill
@rbradhill 4 жыл бұрын
one take, with some cuts. i dig it 😁
@alejrandom6592
@alejrandom6592 3 жыл бұрын
19:57 you can do both u-sub and trig-sub at the same time by letting x^2=2tan(theta) ;) then, xdx is nicely equal to sec^2 and the rest is just the usual
@kaandogan2470
@kaandogan2470 4 жыл бұрын
Hey BPRP , can you make a video about Group Theory ?
@Anders3000
@Anders3000 4 жыл бұрын
What font did you use in your document? Do you use LaTeX package or?
@reu.mathematicsacademy8566
@reu.mathematicsacademy8566 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant sir
@ishanbanjara734
@ishanbanjara734 4 жыл бұрын
I came here after the rap battle in 8 Miles😂... I am ready for the battle!!!
@accountfantoccio5608
@accountfantoccio5608 4 жыл бұрын
Would it actually be faster to integrate cos(ln(x)) by using the complex definition of the cosine? You would then need to integrate (x^i+x^-i)/2, which is just a matter of integrating polinomials.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Account Fantoccio Relatively, yes.
@cyruscyros1891
@cyruscyros1891 2 жыл бұрын
On question number (8). Suppose you let integral equal to Q, then square both sides and integrate twice then take the sqr,, can it work?
@wenhanzhou5826
@wenhanzhou5826 4 жыл бұрын
who else got a smile on the face at 16:15 because you have watched an old bprp video?
@williamadams137
@williamadams137 4 жыл бұрын
Sun and clouds me
@MG-hi9sh
@MG-hi9sh 4 жыл бұрын
Sun and clouds Nah, I still messed it up, ffs. 😂😂😂
@tjli7472
@tjli7472 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Im a Calculus amateur. Just wondering what method did bprp used at 38:50. Thx in advance!
@ayushk3870
@ayushk3870 4 жыл бұрын
Integration of e^-xx from +inf To -inf with pler co-ordinates
@kingarth0r
@kingarth0r 4 жыл бұрын
which integrals are intermediate and high school?
@ssdd9911
@ssdd9911 4 жыл бұрын
can show hyperbolic functions more love or not?
@robertl.crawford4369
@robertl.crawford4369 Жыл бұрын
Lets see those special functions!
@Armbrust666
@Armbrust666 4 жыл бұрын
The second one was a bit over the top, ln(1-x^2)=ln((1-x)(1+x))=ln(1-x)+ln(1+x)
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean 4 жыл бұрын
Either way you need to do integration by parts. Personally, I broke up the ln but if makes sense to use IBP with a bit of work extra then go for it. As long as you get an answer and understand the process
@-james-8343
@-james-8343 4 жыл бұрын
GhostyOcean no you don’t need to do integration by parts with the method he stated. After you split the ln you can split the integral and solve them both by u sub
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
-James- Integrating ln(u) requires integration by parts, so you are wrong.
@GhostyOcean
@GhostyOcean 4 жыл бұрын
@@-james-8343 in order to integrate ln(x) you need to do IBP unless you have the answer memorized (xln(x)-x)
@MG-hi9sh
@MG-hi9sh 4 жыл бұрын
Gábor Tóth Tbh, it’s just as hard if you split it. I split it, and if anything, that made it harder because you have to do IBP twice.
@jarogniewborkowski5284
@jarogniewborkowski5284 3 жыл бұрын
Did You make already any video with non-elementary integrals like eliptic ones?
@originalph00tbag
@originalph00tbag 9 ай бұрын
Number 9 is a pretty straightforward battle, once you know the formula for antiderivatives of inverse functions. As long as a function has an elementary antiderivative, its inverse has an antiderivative of the form, xf^-1(x) - F(f^-1(x)). Once you know tan(x) has antiderivative ln|sec(x)| + C, you just plug tan^-1(x) into the formula and do some trig identities on sec(tan^-1(x)) to get the same result.
@mikedavis7636
@mikedavis7636 Жыл бұрын
Isn't it instead of using partial fractions, Can we not have xln (1-x²) -2x + tanh-¹ (x) +c ? As the answer?
@moon-ia2068
@moon-ia2068 2 жыл бұрын
can you know if the integration is possible or not just by looking at it ? , and if yes how do you know ?
@indrarajgocher7465
@indrarajgocher7465 4 жыл бұрын
Best videos sir for maths
@ayushjuvekar
@ayushjuvekar 4 жыл бұрын
Hey bprp, what font do you use in your files and thumbnails?
@vijayrathore4811
@vijayrathore4811 4 жыл бұрын
Sir ,What is the integral of ∫(1-x^2)^n dx
@krabbediem
@krabbediem Жыл бұрын
Hi BPRP, and thank you for the videos :D I guess this comment will go unnoticed, but if I never ask, I'll never know :) Why are half of these functions impossible to integrate? You just mention as a fact that it's impossible but never why. I'm not great at integration, so I don't understand _why_
@user-rl8xm3tk8m
@user-rl8xm3tk8m 4 жыл бұрын
It will be a great pleasure to me, if you explain how to separate elementary from nonelementary ones. Does such formular exist?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Промо Risch algorithm.
@nchoosekmath
@nchoosekmath 4 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I am wrong, but at 8:50, you can factor 1-x^2 and use rule of log to expand it into 2 terms?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
Oh yes. Then integration by parts after that. Both work
@nchoosekmath
@nchoosekmath 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen Right, unless one memorize that integral of ln(x) is xln(x)-x hehe
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
n choose k yea
@adityakumarvishwakarma7282
@adityakumarvishwakarma7282 4 жыл бұрын
Sir please make a video on ramanujan formula on finding value of pi
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 4 жыл бұрын
Oon Han has made a video on it
@Pageleplays
@Pageleplays 4 жыл бұрын
15:15 „Integrale für Euch“ 😂 Grüße an alle Deutsche 🇩🇪🙌🏽
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
SGE 1899 Hahahah yea!!! Lars helped me to translate it. : )
@attamirza2602
@attamirza2602 4 жыл бұрын
hahahah Ehrenmann
@JamesLewis2
@JamesLewis2 8 ай бұрын
You probably made that future video already, but it is interesting to point out that the most obvious attempt to antidifferentiate arcsin(x)/arccos(x) with respect to x results in the sine integral: A basic trigonometric identity has arcsin(x)=π/2−arccos(x), from which the integrand becomes ½π/arccos(x)−1; then the substitution x=cos(y) with dx=−sin(y)dy results in the sine integral. That is, ∫arcsin(x)/arccos(x) dx = -x−½π∫sin(y)/y dy = −x−½πSi(arccos(x))+C.
@oscartroncoso2585
@oscartroncoso2585 4 жыл бұрын
LETS GO!
@jeunefofanaadamadelecolede7659
@jeunefofanaadamadelecolede7659 2 жыл бұрын
salut monsieur svp j'aimerais avoir un pdf des 100 integrale ou un pdf d'çntegrale pour licence de mathematiues svp
@rurafs7934
@rurafs7934 4 жыл бұрын
How to do that (long division)?
@andrewwang164
@andrewwang164 4 жыл бұрын
integrating ln(cos x) would be an interesting one
@not_intelligent5733
@not_intelligent5733 4 жыл бұрын
√tanx i love this integral same as 1/(x^6+1)
@borntofight5887
@borntofight5887 4 жыл бұрын
Can you solve it Int. (x-2)/[(x-2)^2(x+3)^7]^1/3
@bryangohmppac6417
@bryangohmppac6417 4 жыл бұрын
Sir, why don't you make a video about proving that the ramanujan formula
@luizkemo
@luizkemo 4 жыл бұрын
What about x^dx? Can u do ir pls?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
kemosabe What is that?
@xxgoku7774
@xxgoku7774 4 жыл бұрын
Thumbnails are getting stronger
@KazACWizard
@KazACWizard Жыл бұрын
integrating arcsinx/arccosx is actually doable;much easier to do than the other ones mentioned as undoable previously. its just a bit of subs and ibp and using the Si function.
@byronrobbins8834
@byronrobbins8834 Жыл бұрын
We presently scratch the integral, if it is a non-elementary integral.
@benjaminbrady2385
@benjaminbrady2385 4 жыл бұрын
Now solve the special function ones!
@mokouf3
@mokouf3 4 жыл бұрын
Battle 2: Don't use partial fraction! Use ln(ab) = lna + lnb rule first, much more simple!
@mcwulf25
@mcwulf25 4 жыл бұрын
That was my thought. ln(1+x) + ln(1-x)
@dottemar6597
@dottemar6597 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I did - got two standard ones.
@saradehimi4791
@saradehimi4791 4 жыл бұрын
Big salutation from Algeria thank you Allah blesses you
@herlysqr1650
@herlysqr1650 4 жыл бұрын
How we can know what is elementary and what is not?
@jayapandey2541
@jayapandey2541 4 жыл бұрын
In India we have National Teachers' Day on 5th Sept. So, Happy Teachers' Day to BPRP and all other teachers in advance.
@halaalp9706
@halaalp9706 2 жыл бұрын
Why IS integral of tan (sqrt x ) impossible to solve I genuinely don't understand
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661 4 жыл бұрын
For no. 8, can't we split 1/(t^2-2) into partial fractions and use ln? It is much friendlier than coth. Also, why coth instead of tanh?
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. But it would be just longer...
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661 4 жыл бұрын
@@blackpenredpen But why coth instead of say tanh? According to you they are identical...
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Mohammad Zuhair Khan ln in this situation is not friendlier than ln, since the inside of ln would be a complicated expression. In fact, coth is expressible in terms of ln, so that makes your point moot.
@MG-hi9sh
@MG-hi9sh 4 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen Tbf, I prefer it because you can see how you get the answer, whereas the tanh is just a standard formula.
@sinosodialajay797
@sinosodialajay797 4 жыл бұрын
Please make a collaboration video with 3blue1brown together
@adamzeggai5506
@adamzeggai5506 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@azujy2959
@azujy2959 4 жыл бұрын
YES
@adamzeggai5506
@adamzeggai5506 4 жыл бұрын
@@azujy2959 gosh that would be so cool
@mathswithpana
@mathswithpana 2 жыл бұрын
hello brother. I get a different answer for number 2 intergral ln(1-x^2)dx instead of 1-x i get x-1 and 1+x is same as x+1
@nuklearboysymbiote
@nuklearboysymbiote 4 жыл бұрын
Number 8 was crazy
@jackhounsom8867
@jackhounsom8867 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it easier on the 2nd one to change it from ln(1-x^2) to ln((1-x)(1+x))=ln(1-x) + ln(1+x) and integrate like that?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Hounsom Eh... it's about as easy, but it depends
@MG-hi9sh
@MG-hi9sh 4 жыл бұрын
Jack Hounsom Nah, it’s worse, I did it, and trust me, it’s worse.
@falkinable
@falkinable 4 жыл бұрын
For #9, the ln part turned out to be ln|cos(arctan(x))|, anyone else have this??
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Freddie Correct
@h.m.6228
@h.m.6228 4 жыл бұрын
May the chenlu be with your integrals.
@Paul-ob2hy
@Paul-ob2hy 4 жыл бұрын
for number 2, isn’t the int of 2/1-x^2 just 2arccot(x)?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@asparkdeity8717
@asparkdeity8717 2 жыл бұрын
It’s 2artanh(x), like the hyperbolic inverse tanh function
@centugurdag7776
@centugurdag7776 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, cos(X square) is a function . Geogebra gives a result, if you integrate ( calculate the area) between 2 points Why we can say that this integral does not have a result.thank you For your reply
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Cent Uğurdağ Because the antiderivative of cos(x^2) is *not* the area. The antiderivative of cos(x^2) is simply another function, but the area under the curve is a number. Not remotely the same thing. Any software can calculate any area, but if you ask Geogebra to give you the antiderivative, it *cannot* and *will not* give you an answer, because there is no answer.
@centugurdag7776
@centugurdag7776 4 жыл бұрын
İ agree but want to know why there is no antiderivative of this function
@Ri_F
@Ri_F 4 жыл бұрын
the ad I had for this just said "Find your Steve" 😱😱😱
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
!!!
@Proximachannel
@Proximachannel 4 жыл бұрын
I like your microphone
@rurafs7934
@rurafs7934 4 жыл бұрын
Wait... 1 hour 😯💚
@Dalton1294
@Dalton1294 2 жыл бұрын
Here's another way to write the answer to question 2, xln(1-x^2)-2x+2tanh^-1(x)+C
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 4 жыл бұрын
How do you make your thumbnail🙏😊
@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 4 жыл бұрын
I use “page” on Mac, math type and pictures.
@chirayu_jain
@chirayu_jain 4 жыл бұрын
blackpenredpen can you please give any suggestions for android phone or windows laptop as we don’t have an MacBooks or IPhones or iPads with us.
@user-jh1zr5ug5n
@user-jh1zr5ug5n 4 жыл бұрын
12:30 you could just directly integrate it to 2tanh^-1(x). instead of partial fractions.
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
حودا روك No, because the domain would be incorrect.
@juanjoselezanomartinez5714
@juanjoselezanomartinez5714 4 жыл бұрын
Good video, can you please help me with this integral .. X*Sec(X)
@not_intelligent5733
@not_intelligent5733 4 жыл бұрын
Integration by parts X take D and I sec x Integration of secx is log|secx + tan x| and then its easy
@justabunga1
@justabunga1 4 жыл бұрын
It's non-elementary because if you try to do IBP, you get xln(abs(sec(x)+tan(x)))-integral of ln(abs(sec(x)+tan(x)))dx. Here integral of ln(abs(sec(x)+tan(x))) is non-elementary.
@EduardoViruenaSilva
@EduardoViruenaSilva 2 жыл бұрын
Second round: integral 1 / (1-x^2) = arctanh x + C
@urvpatel829
@urvpatel829 4 жыл бұрын
BPRP how to find range of Sinx-√3.cosx+1
@iabervon
@iabervon 4 жыл бұрын
There's a formula for turning a linear combination of sin and cos into a single sin (or cos) with a phase shift and coefficient. Then you just need to adjust the range for adding 1.
@ruchishukla8507
@ruchishukla8507 2 жыл бұрын
How did he found out that we can't do the other one?
@SR-kd4wi
@SR-kd4wi 4 жыл бұрын
Can you teach us group theory?
@user-yg97f5hfvh
@user-yg97f5hfvh 4 жыл бұрын
Why cos(x^2)is impossible?? Can you try to integrate it???
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661
@mohammadzuhairkhan8661 4 жыл бұрын
It has no elementary answers. You can evaluate it with the non-elementary function C(x), also known as the Fresnel integral.
@felixangelsanchezmendez1466
@felixangelsanchezmendez1466 4 жыл бұрын
Could you solve this integral? Integral of (secx)^(3/2). I wish you did it. Thanks for giving a lot of support
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Angel Mendes This integral is non-elementary, so there is no solution anyone can give you that you would be satisfied with.
@felixangelsanchezmendez1466
@felixangelsanchezmendez1466 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, bro
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 4 жыл бұрын
11:22-11:25 the integral of the thing you are saying needs partial fractions doesn't, actually, because the answer is clearly inverse hyperbolic tangent (Argthx/Argtanhx)
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Serouj Ghazarian Well, that's not correct either, since the domain or arctangent is different from the domain of the function we started with. Strictly speaking, partial fractions are the only correct way to get the most general antiderivative, and this can be proven.
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 ArGtanH, not arctan
@seroujghazarian6343
@seroujghazarian6343 4 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 the function we started with is ln(1-x^2), which has EXACTLY the same domain as Argtanh.
@muscleeagle_
@muscleeagle_ 6 ай бұрын
I never forget the chendu😆
@VaradMahashabde
@VaradMahashabde 4 жыл бұрын
Question 3, the absolute troll
@pichass9337
@pichass9337 4 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by elementary?
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Liam Martin 2: Electric Boogaloo Cannot be expressed as an algebraic combination of polynomials, exponentials, factorials, ordinary trigonometric or hyperbolic functions, absolute values, or the inverses of any of the above.
@benjaminbrady2385
@benjaminbrady2385 4 жыл бұрын
Lol, I speak Irish but I don't know if that helps in the slightest
@sinosodialajay797
@sinosodialajay797 4 жыл бұрын
On 14 September it is teacher's day in India . Please make a excellent special video on the day.
@anhadrajkhowa5850
@anhadrajkhowa5850 2 жыл бұрын
Yall I was just vibing to the Doraemon theme song in the beginning.
@surajsanganbhatla5905
@surajsanganbhatla5905 4 жыл бұрын
Only between you and me!😁
@LeeSeungrhee
@LeeSeungrhee 4 жыл бұрын
But how do we know it's impossible to integrate cos(x^2)?
@user-pr9sr9pe3j
@user-pr9sr9pe3j 3 жыл бұрын
A little late but it actually has a complicated solution but it contains the non elementary error function erf(x).
@LeeSeungrhee
@LeeSeungrhee 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-pr9sr9pe3j yh that is true but how do we know that
@user-pr9sr9pe3j
@user-pr9sr9pe3j 3 жыл бұрын
@@LeeSeungrhee i Dont know how people know, it’s the same like with this expression: e^x-x^2=0 we know that it has a solution but we can only approximate it and not solve algebraic
@LeeSeungrhee
@LeeSeungrhee 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-pr9sr9pe3j hmm I think there is a proof in Galois theory
@Lamiranta
@Lamiranta 4 жыл бұрын
bprp: *showing 8 integral battle* me: ...here we go again
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
Konstantin Cherkai 10*
@wisecraftlive
@wisecraftlive 4 жыл бұрын
m8 im in high school learning quadratics XD could u do a video where u explain calculus and why it works sorry i just kinda don't get what ur doing and just don't get calculus - but i still sub
@LeeSeungrhee
@LeeSeungrhee 4 жыл бұрын
Its all about analyzing a graph of the function. Integral is giving u a surface area under a function. Derivative is the gradient of a line tangent to the function
@wisecraftlive
@wisecraftlive 4 жыл бұрын
@@LeeSeungrhee yes i got the practical part but the theory is really confusing (actual formulas etc)
@jackiekwan
@jackiekwan 4 жыл бұрын
PLeaSe CheCk tHe No.8 OnE wiTh DiFFerEnciAtiON
@jmadratz
@jmadratz 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think that Isaac newton would have been able to derive all of these integral solutions back in his day
@aayushpatel6554
@aayushpatel6554 3 жыл бұрын
Battle 8 is the best integral....
@GSHAPIROY
@GSHAPIROY 3 жыл бұрын
26:25 100 Integrals #61.
@metint.2466
@metint.2466 4 жыл бұрын
hi int(sinx^cosx,x)=? thanks
@angelmendez-rivera351
@angelmendez-rivera351 4 жыл бұрын
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