Ok have a good sleep

Hello everyone, excited to see what the guys at apex are doing to the Supra, I left Germany for the winter, can’t wait to drive my Supra next season. Cheers, Faby Baby ;-)

Have a good night brother man 👍

The original video ending was kinda funny though.

.. I was going to suggest that you use one wider area mid when doing interviews like that.. .but I see now that you have that covered... sleep-eeze!

That is great idea to add in a GoPro demo. That would really give context.

True no bullshit, no sponsors that don’t have anything to do with their video topics,...

In my view, theyre more like educators

"influencers" I just threw up in my mouth

I would love to see this as well.

I'm curious to see it too, my best guess it's they just remove the coils from the coilovers, and then you slowly put the car down with jacks measuring every few centimeters.

@@jairo.cabello No. You don't do that. It removes load from suspension components, which gives you lower deflection values than you'll get in reality. You can use dummy dampers. Basically a tube with holes drilled PRECISELY every couple cm. Then you lower the car onto them. You should do that with all 4 corners to keep the car level and preferably on scales to show you if there is anything funny going on with wheel loads. Also it is beneficial to roll the car both ways a bit to remove lateral preload from the tires. If your dummy damper is stiff enough, then you can do additional camber and toe stiffness testing. Suspension bends more than you'd think. The rim itself will give you 0.5~1 deg/g of deflection during cornering. It's especially important for cars with large scrub radius and caster trail, since longitudinal and lateral forces result in large amounts of torque around the king pin axis.

I have seen this done. Lift the car, then use a jack under the wheel to change its height. This way, you can measure dynamic changes.

Yea, it's a shame the stock one is shit.

@@--LZ--- i mean, stock is stock. It just has to function. Aftermarket parts need to perform & look better.

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On a 3000hp drag gtr and also rally Evo. But you start with acknowledging the engineering, to wich you add: ofc, lowered lol, looks not special. I don’t get your point. Genuinely asking

@@Tristan.R.J.M if i understand your question, the observation is that the outgoing subframe appears to be stiffer. The width and depth of the metal pressings are huge in comparison to the small diameter tubes in the new one. Particularly the amount of material around the chassis attachments. The cross sections of the outgoing one looks like will resist twisting forces much more. So here is the evidence that this is any better? I'd expect Verkline to come armed with some test data showing stiffness calculation, and also some data on how they changes the suspension curves. The alignment didn't go to plan. All they brought was a claim that they made a subframe for a 700hp GTR. Who knows how that performed? Nothing to acknowledge other than a internet claim. More the acknowledge in the manufacturer parts.

If you think that's weird, a MK4 golf fuel tank wil directly fit my mk2, same for the rear brakes and most of the engines can be swapped with oem mounts

"If it works, don't touch it"

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It does absolutely. Maybe even too much. We will get to that.

The main trick i bet is in the subframe... He mentioned the bolt point for fixing to the car chassis remains... But not the one that conencted to all multilink parts... It could be different relative bolt point height...like an advanced rollcenter adjuster as opposed to longer balljoint commonly used in front suspension as well as width adjustment too as we can see the slotted hole on the subframe...

@@AmirPomen I have been thinking very hard about this video and currently have it freeze-framed at 15:28 and think that you might be on to something. Upon closer inspection in am seeing that the bolt that attaches the control arm to the subframe is off-center as if it were a cam like mechanism. There is also the potential for some magic to be happening with the strut rod (the one with Verkline upside down). To be honest I have never noticed a stabilizer strut like on a car before. I had always figured that frictional forces would be pushing the rear control arm back and changing its geometry and that I why I favored a trailing link system.

Hudy would approve.

Good comment

I literally cringe when I see any more SSC headlines. 2020 has produced enough BS to last a lifetime. Keep it real.

Surface finish on some off the machining looks a little rough also, hopefully no fatigue issues.

I guess USSR failed?

@@romka_ind Thanks God (or whatever's the main force in the universe) I remember the times when all slavs were communicating in the universal language with some elements of the sign language in it 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Polish and Russian dudes having a conversation in English while in Germany.

It has a new subframe with new pickup points.

@@thebigmacd Didn't they say the mounting points were the same because of the body though?

@@TheNubimusic no they said they were constrained by not wanting to modify the body. IE they had to make it work in the space provided. Everything appears to tie into the subframe.

I believe the mounting points are the points fixing the sub frame into the car. The difference must be in how the suspension arms etc. attach to the frame and frame/link geometry... it all adds up.

​@@thebigmacd @10:00 he says the top pickup points are staying the same. It must just be the extra adjustability in the lower points that is correcting the geometry. @MishaCharoudin get the engineer instead of the salesmen next time so we get some proper technical info.

There is a lot wrong with the car tbh that could've been solved easily.

@@mgcharoudin how common is it for cars to ‘have to be fixed’ like this? Asking about comparable cars ofc.

I am also looking forward to it. By the way, they were not even did a baseline test before replacing all the parts.

I think they change the link point for suspension on the subframe to suits lowered car height (rollcenter adjuster on the frame itself as opposed to rely on extended balljoint like many front kit) Then with so many adjustment point on that rear multilink setup... I guess the found a compromised setup overall maybe?

Does the Supra really have the same rear axle geometry as the M140?!

@@vollcare4076 most probably not, but it looks the exact same part. And if so, it won’t be able to hold its toe angle either.

@@stevefarrimond ok however, I just wanted to know if bumpstear is also an issuer on BMW F-chassis (M135/140, 240, 340 etc) ?

@@vollcare4076 no one has ever called it bump steer. However, when under load, the rear squats and it feels like the rear tracking goes out (not a slipping wheel). When going over undulations it does the same too. With mine, I fitted Bilstein coil overs, this stiffens it up and the problem almost completely disappears.

@@stevefarrimond exactly After fitting Kw suspension, Mperf LSD and (F21) underbody brace the left right movement of car rear end under acceleration has been eliminated

Maybe!