Quest of The Baritone (A True Story) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qbidmLxmrsvcqqM.html

Back when I was getting singing lessons, which I got for about 9-10 years (2000-2010) from the same singing teacher, he never called me a baritone. Thinking back on myself (and listening to myself on tape from back then) I had the top notes more similar to a bass (peaking at about E4), but he never said anything about my "voice type." He actually got me singing Tom Jones music very early on, who is high baritone himself, which I am in shock over that he started me on singing the songs of such a big voice when I was only 15/16. Maybe about 6 or 7 years in, I called myself a baritone. His response I still remember to this day: "Why are you calling yourself a baritone? Who told you are a baritone? We don't use labels on the range of our voices in here! It's make you think you are only supposed to sing 'here' (indicates a small region with his hands) when you really can sing 'here' (indicates larger region with hands)." I liked hearing that.

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A Baritone with a trained higher register is similar to a Dramatic Tenor, a Baritone will have less timbre than a Dramatic Tenor singing anything over C5, . because a Tenor sounds more comfortable in the higher register, it will sound more fluid. Dramatic tenors are like the huskies of the tenor world, and often get confused with Baritones and bass when singing really low.

I experienced this with classical singing! Thank you for sharing your story! You give great and profound advice in your videos!

You mean the curse of the overwhelming popularity of tenors. Not so sure why a high voice is so prized. Baritones>Tenors Mezzos>Sopranos

Its really hard being stuck as a tenor when youre someone who loves contemporary music . More baritones should arise

You're totally right about people trying to put you in a box and classify you. The most important thing is that one is able to learn to hit the notes he wants and in the way he wants in an expressive and artistic way. Many of my favorite singers that sing with a lot of dynamics and variety and can sing high are actually considered "baritones." Some people call me a baritone because they hear my lower, smooth and warm notes when I sing lower, but most vocal coaches say I am a tenor because of my range and ability to access a light sound without singing falsetto. I like to consider myself a "baritenor." That way I break out of the box and can embrace both advantages. Your range is impressive. I am a singer-songwriter and recording artist and have purchased and used most vocal instruction courses out there (the most popular) and have looked into different schools of thought regarding singing. Each course has different things they focus on and promote as the key to singing. I feel I learn something from each course. Ultimately each singer has to find his own path to developing and building his voice and artistry. I just bought both of your albums from cdbaby. It's nice when people who teach are actually able to sing. That is to say, they actually have proof of it instead of talking. I won't mention other instructors. I'm purchasing your course too. I'd like to see if there are any gems in it that may help me develop my voice even better. Greetings from Washington State.

When I sang with the bass back in high school, my trainer could hear some off notes in the group. That was me, so he made another group- the baritone. We were only two there, which made me feel like the choir is never incomplete without the baritone. That made me sad. To further that, we were never given our proper tune to harmonize with the others. I still am. I just didn’t know my exact role in the choir. When I saw the word “curse” I was sadder. Until now I would sing solo and without an audience because although I know I can sing, I have never gained confidence when singing in front of people.

I consider myself a lyric baritone, I used to struggle with G#4, now my range extends up to C#5, D5 on a good day

Trying to perfect my baritone singing voice thank you for the free video.

Baritone here, thanks for shedding some light, hope and truth

me a baritone voice sing BRUNO MARS - Locked Out of Heaven... Me : god, he singing the song so high.. am done man (drop the mic)

Thank you for this! I always to not label myself as a baritone or tenor cuz it doesn't really define how I sing. But when people hear me sing they say I'm tenor. I can go low to a D2 (pure chest) and up to a G#5 (balanced mixed) and up to F#6 in HV/Falsetto. I'm only comfortable up to E5/F5 in belting/mixed voice and up to C6 in HV/falsetto. I am only self trained but my supports spans from F2 - E5 - E5. I am still training and learning new things while observing legendary singers like Mariah and Whitney. Anyways thanks!

I've a very low voice, it has dropped in tone in recent times and I can sing josh Turner songs so very well, and along with songs like Jim reeves, I've a grunge, manly roughness to my voice and it's great

I LOVE this informations! Thank you!

Actually, here in the Philippines, we have a legend singer name Jaya. She is a contralto but she can get up very high up to Bb5 and sound very full and powerful.

thanks! it inspires me.

I wish people wouldn't say things like this. My vocal teacher from high school insisted on pushing me out of my range and instead of becoming better at bari I just became totally convinced I was not a talented singer. We listened to "before and after" recordings of our voices at the end of the year and she didn't get the results she wanted and ended up apologizing for not being able to help me get any better because I still could not sing anything over middle C. I still can't!

When I first started taking singing seriously, I was told that I was a baritone, and I was in my mid 20s, but when I started singing at open mic nights and in the choir at my former church, my choir director told me I was a tenor, and I started embracing that though I was singing in both ranges. I still enjoy singing, especially the high notes.

My teacher said this same thing and I started doing my own voice testing and videos like these. I went from a 3 octaves to 5 1/2 octaves It took so long but it’s really nice

My belting range is definitely a baritone with my highest belted note being a G4, but I can mix and head voice with my falsetto similar to Mitch Grassi, and I can head voice up to C6 any day of the week with ease in a somewhat decent sounding tone accompanied with vibrato and I can control the speed of the vibrato as well

thanks man! God bless

your story was so inspiring...love you....your story matches mine❤️❤️

I feel you bro......but in my school baritones are very unique

Love you...now i can sing to C5 even more with head voice and falsetto Scream ..and i wanna more rank again...

I love your video coz am an alto and was not sure if I could sing high notes

I'm a mezzo soprano/alto (I really don't know what to consider myself cause my range is quite big A2 - C6) and I honestly much prefer singing in lower notes as opposed to higher ones. I hear high notes being sung all day, but lower notes are so beautiful and rich!

Great vid thank you man

Don't know what it is about your face and demeanor, but I immediately liked you.

I'm a typical baritone who can't sing pure tenor or bass parts without running out of natural tonal support at either end of my singing range. And I gotta say that I'm proud one of them. I have quite a nice voice although I could work on improving my overall singing experience a bit. But I can get a nice gentle boyish tone, but being a baritone I can never quite duplicate the tonal sound that a tenor would be proud of in that same key. I also like practicing the deepness of my voice, though I can never quite get all the bass parts correct either. When I return to my natural baritone range, it's amazing how much more comfortable I feel singing in that range. But I've definitely gotten better at extending my tenor and bass areas of my range, but I can never quite achieve those parts without sounding a bit off key.

Nice video !!! I'm baritone now i only reach G2 - C4 ... Pero bueno voy a seguir practicando ... Saludos.

All the things that you said were true,my music teacher told me that my voice deep and I can't reach high notes,I'm a baritone,well here I am today,my range is C#1-A6 and I'm sure I can expand it more

Very nice. I never knew I had 4 octaves until I was an adult, and just by screwing around... Found it

Im a baritone and I can reach a F2 and my highest is Db6

Thank youu!!

As a high baritone in my 2nd year of singing and the only dude part of the group, they made me solo "Its so Hard to say Goodbye to Yesterday" I did it, but my voice wanted to crack so bad at so many different parts

The tenors are always the most cherished voices.

I'm a baritone and proud of it!

I think baritone is a blessing, I can naturally sing many songs that basses and tennors can't. Training and song choice is important

Thank u man ...

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I'm proud of it.

Then there's guys like the late peter steele who range from C5 all the way down to A1. I quite like it when people try to extend their range to go even lower instead of always higher. Especially when it comes to baritones.

i am a baritone too.. nice video

Axel Rose is a bass baritone (Lyrical classification - Opera), just like me and my range goes from C1 to B5, using different vocal registers. Remember, in rock and pop there is no such classification because we use microphones.

I am totally agreed with you. Baritone is blessing. If u r a man you should feel proud to sing like a man you dont have to sing like a woman. I am a tenor and i wish ito hit lower notes. But i am happy in the 3rd and 4th octave.

Hello there, I’ve got some questions. Can I expand my vocal range If I already have 4 octaves and what voice type am I? My range is C2-C6 and normally my break is at Bb4(when I try to hit B4 for example) but when pushed I can do C#5, although If I start mixing around A4 I can easily mix without tension up to D5. My head voice is up to C6, but I can sometimes do screams that are at D6 but I don’t count them, since they are screams and don’t sound that good. I can hit C2 after lowering my larynx pretty much and my lowest comfortable note is like F#2. I feel very good signing in my mix and head voice, idk why. I was never professionally trained and I am 18 If that matters. Any help would be appreciated!

I want your advices so much. But I don’t have money to buy your program 😭

I was always placed at either bass or baritone in School... My range is c2 in chest and I could push up to F#4 when I belt... Thing is my head voice/falsetto only goes up to c5 If I strained hard enough. It's very frustrating to not even sustain at lease 2 seconds in the 5th octave although I do follow every technique that I find on KZfaq. Btw. My dad is also a singer he's probably a Baritone too... He used to sing at his university before but I have never really heard him sing a full song anymore.

It’s good that you explained this because my highest range is a high F and but I was told I am a baritone. Then I went to a vocal completion and of course I didn’t get chosen for a call back because of my low register and that sucks. Now let me ask a question does people with higher speaking voices have a better chance I making it in the music industry feather than someone that has a lower register voice. Or is it just by favoritism of someone being able to hit falsettos

teach me please! I love singing and most people think that I'm a good singer even tho I can not go higher. But I want to be more comfortable with my singing voice!

Thankyou💕

I'm particularly new to singing and I've had minimal training and my range is about B flat 2 to middle C or C#

My baritone was as flat high as possible before training. It's still like that in the high notes, but there is potential

It’s really interesting, how much someone labelled a Baritone could do. I can do a B4 mix belt and the rest falsetto up to B5 then the rest if I’m prepared and ready for the right technique are whistle notes.

i got into the art of singing (not singing itself, but the knowledge and understanding of singing) a couple years ago because i noticed i could hit some high notes. at the time i thought i was just making shrieking noises and being stupid. but i came to find out, on my own, that i could in fact hit a G5 like Patti LaBelle (still a pride of mine:)). and in fact i had an easier time hitting notes in the 5th octave than in the 2nd octave. sorry don't mean to boast but it was such a confidence boon since everyone around me was always telling me i was being stupid lol :)

I know for me, the main reason I was so upset with being a Baritone (i might even be a Bass-Baritone but I'm not sure yet) was because being on Broadway is my biggest dream and passion, and the male roles you see on Broadway are mainly Tenor roles. But I really want to start working hard to be able to reach those notes, hopefully even hold them, sustain them, sing them with great breath support too, so I really hope I'll be able to do that!! :))

If you walked into my studio, I would classify you as a bass-baritone. I can hear from your speaking timbre, you probably have good vocal weight down to about E2, could probably drop to B1 with decent vocal weight, while you're bright enough to be comfortable into the 3rd octave, while reaching into the 4th octave.

it just depends how you use your voice. That's all I care about.

Neat! I am a bass2, but I Have hair metal love. 6 octaves, but I think it is because of my lungs.

I m a child of 80s..so I feel you...

thanks for the video! what is the song at the end?

I'm a High voice Baritone. My head voice tops out at E5 (warmed up) and bottoms out at C3, Chest from C3 to A2, Growl/Fry A2 to C1. How do I get more power on my switch points? Where Head meets Chest, etc

I love my voice, I usually dislike high pitched songs, but I can hit higher notes for a short amount of time in the slower songs I enjoy. IMO baritone is the best simply because you can learn to go slightly into bass and tenor if youre smack dab in the middle, I'm more upper baritone though. Enjoy what you have.

I havent tried out my low tones much , think my lowest is a G2, I'm still discovering my highest since I'm new to all this vocal learning, I reach the C4 with no problem up to G4, then after that I seem to have a break, but after the break I go very high, not sure, but from the tone it gets to C5 and some what further like very high,

I love being baritone. I don't desire to be any higher range. As a female baritone, I feel unique and wouldn't have it any other way. I know, that might limit me but it's cool because most of the music I like is in my range. I love singing Jim Morrison or Sinatra or Dean Martin and Elvis.

at first i was about b2 - e4 and now ive got g2 - f4 in about 2 months

Wait did u say 4 octave vocal range? I didn’t even know that was possible!

Hey I'm so glad I watched this! Can you tell me if I'm a Baritone? I've been told that I am, bc my voice is low like yours and I can sing D2-A4 in chest voice, then I start to mix at B4 up to F5/G5 but I lack support on those notes so If I sing up there I get tired fast. I hit a C6 a few times just screwing around too but it lacked power. I'm just now finding my voice so Idk what I am lol.

I find it impossible to go above an Fb4 or falsetto but i can somehow whistle. Im the most discombobulated baritone ever. I literally jumped over the 5th and 6th octave to whistle in the 7th but cant even falsetto

It's not a curse! It's definitely a blessing. Tenor is the most common male voice type. Maybe contemporary favors high screeches, but who cares? I've been a bass as long as I can remember, and I can hit only up to G4 in chest voice. I definitely can't resonate or support up there, only up to C#4. I can always support down to C2 regardless of my condition, and usually down to G#1. I can easily reach upper 5th octave with headvoice aswell. Also many people would actually prefer to have a lower voice (men) than they have, and I would too. Men are supposed to sound masculine, not feminime.

I call myself baritone and most other people have too. I have a useable range from around E2 to A5. By far the hardest part of my voice to use is from C4 to G4. I just can't get ant decent sound out of there.

Great videos! The Baritone Curse is just another excuse people make to claim that they can never be good singers in my opinion. It simply isnt true. It must be great to be a baritone with that manly timbre and tone. I can never in my wildest dream get a tone like that since I am probably what people in the classic world would call a Lyric Tenor with that gentle boyish tone (aka boyband sound), first passagio starting at E4. Where was your passagios naturally before you learned to make it seamless? I wish I could find a way to sound more macho overall in my sound, but I guess it has some perks to have a natural high voice as well. Do you have any helpful tips to achieve a more manly sound for a guy who sounds closer to Adele than Johnny Cash? I guess I should work a lot on my chest voice. Btw, would you say Freddie Mercury is a high tenor? It is strange with his timbre, because some of his earlier work he sounded like a ballerina female almost, and then in the 80s he sounds almost like a baritone with that manly voice. Not that it even matters :P Keep going strong man, your channel is going to grow, and I hope to be able to take some lessons with you eventually.

Being a baritone made me an instrumentalist

Guess I showed up late. Most I had was choir in middle school. I'm just trying to figure out what my range is. Seems I can do some bass to some alto. Always did a lot of voices growing up. This vid is the 1st vid I picked & makes me feel a little better.

Hey man, this sounds like something I need. All my life I’ve thought, god I’m a baritone and I won’t be able to play parts, oh I do musical theater btw, in shows because it seems like every part is written for tenors. So how do I get in touch with you, my name is Robert Cervera, how much are your private classes, etc.

Hello Eli! Im thinking about bying ur vocal lessons but i cant understand difference between "HVT - Master Series original" and "Ultimate" version. I am baritone. I can git high notes like c5 but i still need more practice for singing. So my question - original or ultimate version to help me sing high in songs, not only in exercises.

I live in a place where there is no vocal coach. I have been singing by myself for many years, but only recently found out I'm baritone with bass capabilities. While I realize me judging myself is not conclusive, I can say I don't sing well. I can see the capabilities in my voice but it would need (a lot of) training. Lessons over Skype, while it could be beneficial, would be limited to mic quality.

I'm unfortunately a baritone, not that I don't like baritones in general but the songs I'd like to sing are the ones that are not fit to my voice, which goes (chest range) from G2 to F#4 but I'm comfortable from B2 to E4... My wet dream is to belt a beautiful A4

back in 2015 my voice was beast.. i sang BAT COUNTY just like M. Shadow did at LBC, but now i couldn't even screaming anymore..

I am a male in puberty, I am 17. I like singing but my range is like D2 to E4. I can't sing anything above E4, I can't do it even I do yell. I have heard of mixed voice since last year, I've done lips trills, puffy cheeks, sirens, but I just can't get to ease the break. I love to sing but due to the fact that I am straining to much while singing, I started scare of singing. My vocal coach is a classically trained singer so he always want me to sing in my chest voice, I've train with him 6 month but I feel no improvement. I would like to ask you if I need to learn mixed voice or continue to train my chest voice? Is practicing loud and strong chest voice contradiction with mixed voice?

honestly i think being a baritone forces me to be more unique with my singing, to find different notes and things i can do to fit the key if a find a note too high

Thanks brother. I sing baritone/bass and did not think it was possible to sing higher. It hurts my larynx. My normal voice is baritone bass. Was Pavarotti really a baritone that smashed tenor? Seems his speaking voice was lower than tenor.

I mean, lots of famous singers are baritones: David Bowie, Elvis Presley, Drake, Louis Armstrong, Johnny Cash. It's all matter of training your voice. I'd say being a baritone is a blessing, cause you can have a very wide range- just listen to a few of Elvis' songs- if you put work into getting there.

Yoooo Hey im glad i found ur channel. I WANT to sing so bad. Im advanced with guitar, and drums, very advanced. And with music production and ALL that. Ive been doing it as a hobby and have tried professionally for years. But ive always had to depend on other people who can "sing". I WISH i could sing powerful classic metal vocals in my own sound. Ive only more recently learned that my range is baritone as ive never actually looked into my voice to that extent but i want to be able to sing my own stuff so bad. My normal voice sounds pretty much in the same range as yours but im from the south and its a little more twangy and slightly slighty higher.. but still within the baritone note range. Could you point me to the best direction that may help me realize my natural singing voice that "sounds" good? I can sing in key and am the opposite of tone deaf, i can play ripping lead guitar over any key 😅 but nooooope on my vocals. I just REALLY need someone who has the expertise to say heres what you're doing and heres what you need to do exactly. (Sigh) i think ill start again by finding baritone singers and singing along but with my own "voice" and hopefully that will reinforce my singing muscle memory. Im telling ya, ive hit a brick wall with my voice hard lol

I’m kinda blessed with a big range XD (G1-b4 (in chest and mix at the end of that) F5-D6 (falsetto) also A1-C1 in growl/fry ) without any formal training

Man, I'm a 55 y/o baritone/base. I used to be able to sing most of the way into the bass parts barring the REALLY deep notes and about halfway through tenor, which I felt was decent. I've never had formal coaching though. I often find myself trying to sing tenor rock parts and it ain't happening. Heck, Mr. "Golden Voice" (Steve Perry) can't hit the notes he used to.

Im a heavy metal listener too

I get some people to say that I'm a baritone, but I am actually a bass-baritone with a true profundo range.

The funny fact is that usually baritone is only 2 notes lower than tenors (A2-A4 while tenors are C3-C5),. But the most funny thing is that there are some baritones which sing way more higher than some tenors 😁 Like Chad Kroeger and Serj Tankian for example.

I was always told I was a Baritone and after 5 years of training I'm actually a High Tenor, just struggled with tension over the years

I can't sing at all ion know why I'm here lmao but love baritone voices are some of my favorites 😫❤ one day I hope to sing okayy lol

Do you think Josh Turner feels bad?

I'm a high baritone and I wish I was a tenor so I could easily sing Queen and Air Supply songs.

And being a baritone is also a good basis for becoming a Dramatic tenor which I am, and my speaking voice is lower than yours Sir.

I'm a baritone I didn't go to any vocal class or nothing I just like to do things with my voice and I could sing as high as Majenko Malcovich in the song she's gone I can even crush Aerosmith Dream on with ease I don't know how😅

I could belt my way to Bb4 back in the day, my voice lowered and now my range is B1-G4. So I only sing very sad songs now.

I am 14 years old and my vocal extension is C2-G4. Can I get lower with training? Go down to A1 for example.

I actually don't know what classification my voice goes but my lowest note is at the 3rd octave and I can reach up to G4 without strain and A4 to Bb4 but straining. Haven't really explored my falsetto and mixed voice yet can somebody recommend a great video on how to do mixed voice and head voice.