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ELITE HIGH ELVES IN COMPETITIVE | High Elves vs Norsca - Total War Warhammer 3

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@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz Жыл бұрын
I like the Frostheart Phoenix because while I have no idea what I'm doing with it, neither does my opponent.
@PapaJafari
@PapaJafari Жыл бұрын
This is me on table top. It's always does SOMETHING but there's no saying what until it happens.
@Kasaaz
@Kasaaz Жыл бұрын
@@PapaJafari It's like the cousin of the Distraction Carnifex, the Confusion Phoenix.
@revolverclassic8248
@revolverclassic8248 Жыл бұрын
This was me for the first many hours of using phoenixes in multiplayer. I know it's good and useful, but I have no idea how! But get in there kid!
@dome2919
@dome2919 Жыл бұрын
HE are so satisfying to watch, and they have a bunch of Tech-pieces that just feel more "fantastical* than many of the other factions' RoRs. Glad to see you bring them!
@ZoneStalker4
@ZoneStalker4 Жыл бұрын
Ive seen it written in the comments before but never stop making these, these videos/livestreams really cheer me up
@Freesqare
@Freesqare Жыл бұрын
In the vs Norsca matchup, I love taking a unit of Sisters of Averlorn. They melt trolls extremely quickly and can defend relatively well against doggos
@sassyviking6003
@sassyviking6003 Жыл бұрын
For sure. Sister seem super good in this matchup.
@daxtorsstuff7678
@daxtorsstuff7678 Жыл бұрын
id still love to see all elite infantry have an extra 30% magic resist or even more instead of trying to balance magic. I think it would make the decision between bringing direct damage magic and buff magic a tougher decision too. it'll never happen tho
@spiritofthegorg6950
@spiritofthegorg6950 Жыл бұрын
I think the coolest (albeit probably not gonna happen) introduction would be if you could spend Winds of magic on dispelling
@RanenJ
@RanenJ Жыл бұрын
but then what about units with magic missle or melee damage?
@spiritofthegorg6950
@spiritofthegorg6950 Жыл бұрын
@@RanenJ this has been changed in tw3. I think what He means is now known as spell resist
@skeptic1124
@skeptic1124 Жыл бұрын
I have been thinking that for years. Elite units just need magic armor. I would give all of them missile ressistance too. They should be only weak to arty and cav charges.
@RanenJ
@RanenJ Жыл бұрын
@@spiritofthegorg6950 oh wow thanks, i hadn't noticed.
@seanrigsby4350
@seanrigsby4350 Жыл бұрын
This battle was amazing. Definitely cinematic. The fireborn coming around the treeline to save the surrounded Silverin guard was movie-worthy
@robsonclark9678
@robsonclark9678 Жыл бұрын
"Game Blouses" 15:00, love it! Perfectly fitting for the High Elves :).
@Scandic45
@Scandic45 Жыл бұрын
according to zerkowitch , swordmasters of Hoeth are the best heavy infantry unit in the game so far , subject to patching of course
@silverhost9782
@silverhost9782 Жыл бұрын
Best at killing other infantry, yes. Arguably not the best overall though
@Scandic45
@Scandic45 Жыл бұрын
@@silverhost9782 zerkowitch had them battle each heavy infantry unit untill the sowrdmasters were the only heavy infantry winner. so Id say it's the best heavy infantry unit vs other heavy infantry and infantry
@turinRTS
@turinRTS Жыл бұрын
They are quite good, but many variables go into what is truly the best! IE, immune to psychology, durability at all HP thresholds, match-ups, etc!
@sassyviking6003
@sassyviking6003 Жыл бұрын
Yea, best is subjective. Absolutely nothing does as well as them in clean fair infantry engagements. They are undoubtedly very strong.
@Scandic45
@Scandic45 Жыл бұрын
@@turinRTS ofcourse other factors paly into it. When aligned swordmasters did best of heavy infantry in a controled eviroment with no debuffs etc kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qa-hlc6WmZ-oiHU.html this is probably out of date by now
@mirchiamemeina1524
@mirchiamemeina1524 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful fight, the noble Asur holding back the marauding hordes! You're the best damn caster on the scene Turin. I love watching every single one of these videos!
@SusaVile
@SusaVile Жыл бұрын
Had an excellent holiday, feeling well, time for some Turin:) I hope you had excellent holidays as well
@punchyMiddleEarth
@punchyMiddleEarth Жыл бұрын
Keep up the good work Turin, have a great year 😎
@EIixir
@EIixir Жыл бұрын
This was a great game. Nice to see a different High Elf build than mass spears.
@sageofcaledor8188
@sageofcaledor8188 Жыл бұрын
This made my day! Elite infantry. High Elf victory! Thank you for a great video!
@kaiserflanderson2632
@kaiserflanderson2632 Жыл бұрын
Just found the channel/game (new to warhammer but not totalwar) thanks for all the helpful info, this chanel has been awesome man
@PatrickOMulligan
@PatrickOMulligan Жыл бұрын
I think a tourney built around the idea of elite infantry and minimal chaff could be fun and informative.
@therealdoomsage
@therealdoomsage Жыл бұрын
My head canon is that this build was inspired by my own featured on dahv's channel recently. Not sure how I came to that conclusion.. but I'd appreciate nobody shattering the illusion just yet. Ta
@turinRTS
@turinRTS Жыл бұрын
I did not see that, but let's go with that head cannon brother!
@sassyviking6003
@sassyviking6003 Жыл бұрын
I honestly was confused for a bit and thought it was the same replay.
@dome2919
@dome2919 Жыл бұрын
He knows too much!
@therealdoomsage
@therealdoomsage Жыл бұрын
Such supportive people.. it brings a tear to the eye! (jokes aside, I can't get over how genuinely pleasant this community is, warms a misanthropes' bitter, icy heart it does. BURNS US IT DOES *golum noises*)
@SusaVile
@SusaVile Жыл бұрын
Looking at those silverin guard getting surrounded, I feel when a unit is guarding an objective it should be bracing in a deeper formation to gain the mass bonus. It might help reducing some of the enemy charge.
@tastethefloor
@tastethefloor Жыл бұрын
Huzzah! Thanks for this glorious new year's present. I know you're not the biggest H.E. fan, but I think you really get what makes them cool - it's not the bows and magic, it's elite infantry and heavy cav. Question: How do you think the build would've held up if Yumi had brought any of the big vortex spells? Searing Doom took its toll over time, but seemed a lot more manageable.
@michaelhobson1007
@michaelhobson1007 Жыл бұрын
Hey Turin! Long time watcher/lurker on streams! You and Legendoftotalwar are the reason I even got into total war, and even with 2600 hours of playtime I've yet to even touch multiplayer. On that note, have you considered making videos on the subject of beginners to multiplayer? Something like armies for people who are bad at micro, or builds for generic use? It could make for good videos (knowing you) and there's a lot of content to cover with that!
@jibbles101
@jibbles101 Жыл бұрын
14:18 "It's almost the point of no return, not quite a single cap situation" - Turin, mere seconds after High Elves reach a single cap situation.
@strayawg5618
@strayawg5618 Жыл бұрын
Frostheart phoenix is basically just like having an Articuno in your army.
@DanielCosta-zp6jl
@DanielCosta-zp6jl Жыл бұрын
high elves are growing in turin heart he just don't want to admit.
@kalashydra9016
@kalashydra9016 Жыл бұрын
15:50 you can use the bolt throwers vs armor they are really solid armor piercing vs infantry and even monsters with the single target option
@Its_Gaz
@Its_Gaz Жыл бұрын
Really cool high elf build and strat! Elite infantry are awesome and its cool to see them do well.
@jimjam9808
@jimjam9808 11 ай бұрын
Try fire caster with the flaming sword spell, can cast it anywhere in the battle to make any of your units win their engagement. Makes the norsca matchup so free. Don’t even need elite troops. Get some lions with their good phys and missile resist they ignore horse skirmish and troll punch while being affordable, fast, AP, and good in every stat
@mrcobrabubbles6889
@mrcobrabubbles6889 Жыл бұрын
I love elite armies but they never end well for me. Getting shot to pieces or mortised down. But god I love to see it
@TheAmazingDom
@TheAmazingDom Жыл бұрын
Lucky no Wulfrik; seafang would have made it very sad
@justintung7981
@justintung7981 Жыл бұрын
Daddy Turin spoiling us with these high level 1v1's off meta builds. Love the diversity in WHIII MP rn!
@Aetherion_
@Aetherion_ Жыл бұрын
The frostheart bird is finally good, after so many years of suffering. The changes to the ward save, getting frostbite and looks like some MA (I distinctly recall 35 MA, lower than even an Eagle), have given the blue bird a place. Now if only they can make the blue (moon) dragon slightly more cost effective, but Im not sure I want HE to be a monster faction. I like where they stand right now
@cdtray3940
@cdtray3940 Жыл бұрын
Funny that the Frostheart Phoenix is an off meta choice when in Warhammer Fantasy Tabletop it is the most OP shit out there
@gchecosse
@gchecosse Жыл бұрын
High Elf enjoyer since 1996
@yonigriffi9491
@yonigriffi9491 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see an elite army work. I like the frostheart aswell. It's worth it most of the time. To me the real mvp's of the high elves are the lothern seaguard, Never a waste. Just so hard to get rid of effectively. The only good way to deal with them is somehow getting infantry on top of them.
@ilovemeat2625
@ilovemeat2625 Жыл бұрын
Generally speaking which spells would you consider as worth overcasting? I understand it's case specific, but maybe there are some common ones?
@elefandados
@elefandados Жыл бұрын
Invocation of Nehek and Wind of death for the vampires at least
@Daniel_deez_nutz
@Daniel_deez_nutz Жыл бұрын
Pit of shades if you have a really nice blob to punish.
@bubbasbigblast8563
@bubbasbigblast8563 Жыл бұрын
Frost Phoenixs are really more Land Battle than Domination: in Dom, I'd rather bring the Omen, since it makes more of a difference in the few blob fights that happen.
@goodoldsmoke
@goodoldsmoke Жыл бұрын
Galri Asur! Always love to see the High Elves content on your channel! Btw, does anyone want a small army of 6E High Elves? My painting skills are poor, my possibilities of getting into Old World are far worse.
@ThatGuyConner13
@ThatGuyConner13 Жыл бұрын
Ooh i’m definitely interested, i’ve always been interested in having some High Elf pieces as a non tabletop player.
@Anvilarm07
@Anvilarm07 Жыл бұрын
Great bat rep. That HE army felt very HE if you know what I mean. All it was missing is one bolt throwers, IMHO. (For theme, not for better performance.)
@_khaine
@_khaine Жыл бұрын
Where do you think the High Elves are at overall, like in terms of a tierlist? I remember in warhammer 2 that they were more in the middle of the pack
@RaikoH6644
@RaikoH6644 Жыл бұрын
Very nice build and game
@chirrchill751
@chirrchill751 Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@sirrobin7078
@sirrobin7078 Жыл бұрын
love me some high elves
@eagleguy7
@eagleguy7 Жыл бұрын
always great to see some HE gameplay
@Crackpunch
@Crackpunch Жыл бұрын
Is this a custom map? I really like the aesthetic and layout.
@yabarber6902
@yabarber6902 Жыл бұрын
I always knew swordmasters were the best. They’ve been my favorite ever since my first Imrik campaign. Also in your opinion who’s the best duelist in the game?
@nelsonhill4625
@nelsonhill4625 Жыл бұрын
I think demons don't get resurrected because according to the lore they are banished, not killed.
@lilvalko5096
@lilvalko5096 Жыл бұрын
what would you say is more cost effective: reavers or skeleton horsemen?
@michaelgerard7177
@michaelgerard7177 Жыл бұрын
Frostheart phoenix is the best Phoenix
@toxic_cowZ
@toxic_cowZ Жыл бұрын
I haven't watched yet but as the only norsca main in the world im going to be really mad if this guys gets away with using 3 trolls vs a faction that can shoot.
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 Жыл бұрын
Non-haggard thumbnail? Where's the real Turin, you impostor?
@silmaril96
@silmaril96 Жыл бұрын
New Year, new Turin
@turinRTS
@turinRTS Жыл бұрын
;)
@josedasilva6885
@josedasilva6885 9 ай бұрын
gg
@canyonntt6969
@canyonntt6969 Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain why in competitive we see such small, low tier armies? I want to see 20 stacks of elite late game armies going at it. Why is this what everyone wants to see?
@Nethershock
@Nethershock Жыл бұрын
Unit diversity, which increases the role of strategy (knowing matchups, technical picks). Low tier / chaff infantry having a role (soaking up charges, ammo, capture weight) means people don't just spam the same elite stuff like campaign doomstacks I don't super understand the rest of your question - gold caps? Turin did a high-goldcap tournament once a while back, was cool but there's a sweet spot for diversity vs having too much gold
@canyonntt6969
@canyonntt6969 Жыл бұрын
@Neth I just think it would be more fun seeing high tech Backorcs going at it with Swordmasters with other high tier support than goblin spears and basic spearmen
@looming_
@looming_ Жыл бұрын
Dragon princess are so trash tho. No ap on 1400 gold unit wat.
@pjadtron9415
@pjadtron9415 Жыл бұрын
Norsca is so outdated man.....
@dankevan5675
@dankevan5675 Жыл бұрын
Lizardmen need buff like high elves, I never see anyone picking lizard in online battle but after undead nerf high elves is too good now, hard to beat them with factions have no artillery silverin and sea guard spam win every battle while sea guard don’t even have armor piercing And they just use one phoenix to ruin your army and wait for dragon prince summon
@jasonmckay8793
@jasonmckay8793 Жыл бұрын
yeh norsca is not good just a bad version of everyone else like them there a favorite for alot of people but tbh they suk, need buffs buuut its not going to happen there gunna be shit for years
@thogrimironhammer8563
@thogrimironhammer8563 Жыл бұрын
How about a rework on Norsca,😏
@TypowyKubini
@TypowyKubini Жыл бұрын
But Norsca is fine.
@sassyviking6003
@sassyviking6003 Жыл бұрын
It is coming. CA have said as much.
@trogdor221
@trogdor221 Жыл бұрын
@@TypowyKubini their units are fine, but theyre very one note. they dont have the amount of options that all the other factions have. plus their campaign is a little dated. They need a DLC and theyll be perfect. One vs Kislev would be cool to see.
@srail9828
@srail9828 Жыл бұрын
Ur micro needs major work holy
@pjadtron9415
@pjadtron9415 Жыл бұрын
The disrespect
@profpwn9446
@profpwn9446 Жыл бұрын
Relax my dude he's new
@jasonmckay8793
@jasonmckay8793 Жыл бұрын
norsca is weak
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