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Turin

Turin

Жыл бұрын

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@suspicious_ape7173
@suspicious_ape7173 Жыл бұрын
As soon as Turin pointed out the orks were purple all of a sudden i could no longer see the green skins. I've never seen a purple ork 🫥
@Bans94
@Bans94 Жыл бұрын
Seeing a black orc build immediately makes me root for the Greenskin faction. Even more so when I see the Vamps on the other team! Waaaaargh!
@alexstrozier1534
@alexstrozier1534 Жыл бұрын
DA BLACK ORCS WILL WIN!
@bearistotle2820
@bearistotle2820 Жыл бұрын
​@@alexstrozier1534WANNA KNOW WHY? CUZ DAY R DA BIGGEST N' DA BADDEST!
@MagicHjalti
@MagicHjalti Жыл бұрын
the underorc
@mrl9910
@mrl9910 11 ай бұрын
why?
@alexd832
@alexd832 11 ай бұрын
Same
@florians9949
@florians9949 Жыл бұрын
The orcks: paint themselves in purple. Mangred: the enemy army seems awefully small.
@julianspaghi4592
@julianspaghi4592 Жыл бұрын
i think you might have missed a decent winds of death on the elite orc blob at around 9:20
@imwivstuipid
@imwivstuipid Жыл бұрын
yeah almost a 1k value wind
@shinyforehead5519
@shinyforehead5519 Жыл бұрын
damn i didnt even notice!! definitely makes this build all the more desireable if it can tank a wind and a mortis and still hold
@12SickOne34
@12SickOne34 Жыл бұрын
Sneaky Black Orcs wearing purple. Cause purple is the sneakiest of colours!
@lordderpington8021
@lordderpington8021 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the Krimson Killerz aren't slightly faster than other black orcs for being painted mostly red is downright criminal to greenskin culture. Or does that "rule" only apply to 40k?
@rolohuilipan
@rolohuilipan Жыл бұрын
@@lordderpington8021 Only listen that to 40k
@majormoolah5056
@majormoolah5056 Жыл бұрын
"Oi! Dat git called us off-meta!"
@sassyviking6003
@sassyviking6003 Жыл бұрын
I get that VC have healing so the numbers aren't 100% representative. But it is kind of amazing to me that the mortic engine got that much value and the greenskins were still that far up on value. The elite core put in serious work.
@fridericusrex6289
@fridericusrex6289 Жыл бұрын
Look at it this way - manfred costs like 2k, but gives like 3.2k value, mortis is 1400 if i remember correctly and gives around 2.5 value... just those two units inflated the value by around 2500... now whole frontline is healing from mortis and corpse cart, whole army is healing from invo, whole army healing from passive, vargulf + crypt horrors have regen... even with 18k against 14k counts were still ahead in value probably (thats why they were pushing greenskin home objective)
@UnreasonableOpinions
@UnreasonableOpinions Жыл бұрын
It was weirdly stressful to see four high-cost Greenskins infantry units lined up perfectly and engaged without it eating a Winds for half the game.
@chriscrane1482
@chriscrane1482 Жыл бұрын
Wow the call back to Jason and the Argonauts. I haven't seen that in a long while. The skeletons definitely move like them and the Army of Darkness ones for sure though.
@ghorstbusters6238
@ghorstbusters6238 Жыл бұрын
These are the ‘fabulous’ black orcs. Also strong and independent, don’t need no chieftain orcs.
@uhn6
@uhn6 Жыл бұрын
WWWWWAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
@CatsAgainstCommunism
@CatsAgainstCommunism Жыл бұрын
Two factions I normally don't give two shits about made incredibly fun to watch because of skill, neat builds, and of course Turin. Who is dancing, dancing. He bows to the ladies, and he is a great favorite. He never sleeps, he says. He says that he will never die. He wafts pirouettes and chasses backwards. He dances in light and in shadow. He says that he will never die.
@EyebrowsGaming
@EyebrowsGaming Жыл бұрын
There's an Orc army? I never saw them. Weird to see the Vampires swinging at nothing. Good battle anyway Turin, keep up the good work! (40k Ork purple reference)
@matthewsmith1632
@matthewsmith1632 Жыл бұрын
purple black orcs should have stalk to be lore accurate
@chewyhazerd3587
@chewyhazerd3587 Жыл бұрын
Man it really made my day after seeing a good Greenskin Krumping, watching a cringe Mortis Engine get destroyed, and then seeing the undead hit a critical mass into a deathstar blob to keep it a close game
@alexsitaras6508
@alexsitaras6508 Жыл бұрын
At 9:30 did we miss a big winds of death? And of the OG faction match ups, this is my favorite.
@-nav-398
@-nav-398 Жыл бұрын
For janky skeleton motions, I think you were thinking of 'Clash of the Titans' '81. Real old school claymation.
@arn1345
@arn1345 Жыл бұрын
BOYZ BOYZ BOYZ BOYZ BOYZ
@hudsonswarts7143
@hudsonswarts7143 Жыл бұрын
Man that was such a strange vid. Just Vampire and undead dying and fighting against nothing at all.
@borolf
@borolf Жыл бұрын
Its cool to see fun games involving vamp counts
@lolsovs
@lolsovs Жыл бұрын
Very few things in life are constant, but one of them is VC and the effectiveness of their blobbing. It simply boggles the mind how this faction is still so good at what it has always done since TWW1.
@toxic_cowZ
@toxic_cowZ Жыл бұрын
excited to see this! i caught the end of it live but was really interested in it as a greenskins player myself.
@IIIJG52
@IIIJG52 Жыл бұрын
Watching the Mortis Engine collect Chevrons was fun :D .
@MinnesotaGuardsmen
@MinnesotaGuardsmen Жыл бұрын
Im glad im not the only one that thought that about the skeleton animations lol
@paulkersey3042
@paulkersey3042 Жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the summoning curse got him where other units just needed to be on the field, but if he managed to get the mortis out again. Greenskins wouldn't have killed it again. Took both hero and lord to take it down and once they're spent, nothing would have touched the mortis between manfred and horrors.
@Chairman-Meow44
@Chairman-Meow44 Жыл бұрын
13:57 love the boar boy squeal 🐷
@sab9040
@sab9040 Жыл бұрын
WWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGH!
@CatsAgainstCommunism
@CatsAgainstCommunism Жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for that "SWEEE PIG" for what feels like weeks 🤣
@climax050
@climax050 Жыл бұрын
Never really been too deep into greenskins but they are really really hard to not root for, I'm becoming more and more of a fan everyday
@darthplagueis13
@darthplagueis13 Жыл бұрын
Great game, and I do love seeing such an old school GS build. Though I do think having an Orc Shaman would have made life a lot easier for l33chlord, with maybe some brain burstas for popping cairn wraiths, or a Foot of Gork for a chance to nuke Blood Knights
@dds9312
@dds9312 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic battle. Mortis engine really did make the difference despite the loss
@dasberk4971
@dasberk4971 Жыл бұрын
That tide of undead was wild!!
@03Grunt-arrino
@03Grunt-arrino Жыл бұрын
Awesome battle!
@IratheHayes
@IratheHayes Жыл бұрын
What a nice game by both players
@TheDownrankTrain
@TheDownrankTrain Жыл бұрын
Man, L33chlord is the dark lord of the Azhag. I feel like I see him bring the old Crown boi a lot to great effect
@kippbalthazar
@kippbalthazar Жыл бұрын
God I needed some greenskins
@u-mos8820
@u-mos8820 Жыл бұрын
man, so many shots at game changing winds of death missed. Blew his load too early, would have been money at the end or in the initial clash at point 1.
@justintung7981
@justintung7981 Жыл бұрын
i think he purposefully went without flying azhag because it wouldve been a single concentrated piece that would be prime target for spirit leech spam. I think maybe squeeze in one unit of skirmish missile calv + spirit leech focus on mortis and not using it on banshee would've been enough.
@freyrTV
@freyrTV Жыл бұрын
You should upload a short or something with the wind of death at 9:20. Looked so damn juicy!
@SmilingJack100
@SmilingJack100 Жыл бұрын
Love 2 see off-meta elite builds! I'm always confused by how tanky mortis engiens are, they don't have high armor or melee defense, and I don't think they have huge ressistances but they seem really hard to kill!
@kehfee
@kehfee Жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the black orcs I knew it would be a good match. Greentide ftw
@thatoneguywhosaysstuff9529
@thatoneguywhosaysstuff9529 Жыл бұрын
Krimson killa's truly are fast gits, some how holding the home objective and middle solo for half the game. Wish they'd said in the patchnotes that they cast now as well, unless the squigs have gotten some right propa weirdboy stuff goin on now
@cpt.flinch3930
@cpt.flinch3930 Жыл бұрын
Do you even cast regular battles anymore?
@steelbear2063
@steelbear2063 Жыл бұрын
Praised be off-meta builds
@clover912
@clover912 Жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered doing another complete beginner tournament?
@Farseer15
@Farseer15 Жыл бұрын
I kinda wish the value numbers showed the value size of each army on the battlefield rather than damage done. There's so many things that it doesn't account for like healing, crumbling and routed off units, army abilities, friendly fire etc.
@aidancallahan4217
@aidancallahan4217 Жыл бұрын
I gotta trust Turin's casting skills for the Ork army cause I can't see it.
@whatchdogmanyeah2685
@whatchdogmanyeah2685 Жыл бұрын
good to see some krimson killarz action
@radekkuzian7918
@radekkuzian7918 Жыл бұрын
Over 4k units and not a single missile shot
@garethsentry
@garethsentry 10 ай бұрын
Great fight
@aleczanderhorn5549
@aleczanderhorn5549 Жыл бұрын
Wait where did the orcs go?
@Tsumetaiyoru
@Tsumetaiyoru Жыл бұрын
Yo Turin, I think you need to check the vid. I couldn’t see the ork team for some reason. All the vampires just started dying.
@jannikgluckert8501
@jannikgluckert8501 Жыл бұрын
I think a single catapult would've done so much for the Greenskins. Elite Infantry is cool but ultimately still rather slow at chewing through chaff.
@falma2254
@falma2254 Жыл бұрын
Prob just dies to a single Manfred zombie summon. Without Azhagg in the air it's hard to protect it.
@bidenonabender5903
@bidenonabender5903 Жыл бұрын
oh so the weird hockey stick visuals on black orcs when zooming out isn't a low settings thing? heck then i really wonder why CA never bothered fixing it. it'S not the world but in my grimgor campaing i went full black orcs (as you should) and it drove me crazy, it's such a little thing but it looks so braindead! xD
@semi-useful5178
@semi-useful5178 Жыл бұрын
>Purple Orcs >They don't get stalk What is this bullshit?
@pianospeedrun
@pianospeedrun Жыл бұрын
10 seconds in, haven't checked comments yet, from builds alone imo greenskin should have gone for wurzag. Azagh's terror + Death magic is great vs low LD armies and lords that can't regen, so here a lot of value is wated, whereas wurzag can really make those black orks smash the vampire lines before any regen kicks in. The black ork boss is a decent idea i played around with, but again some value is lost since you have 3x black orks with immune to psychology... still can be usefull in mid to late game to prevent reinforcement greenskins (vulnerable to psych) from terror routing, so i don't mind too much. Could be replaced by rusty arrers + night gobo archers for some very strong support, or a savage big boar cav to protect wurzag / flanks. The infantry choice is great tho, savage orks and black orks are great to use when there's no arty / missiles on the field. So rare to be able to pick them actually...
@tuscatheiso9198
@tuscatheiso9198 Жыл бұрын
Okay but hear me out... Those dragon bones, are much bigger than the dragons you can have in your army. So, are dragons either child soldiers, or very slow aging?
@DavisJ-ln6fw
@DavisJ-ln6fw 10 ай бұрын
It's probably an ancient dragon as dragons continue to grow throughout their lives.
@Anvilarm07
@Anvilarm07 Жыл бұрын
Wow, GS fighting VCs. It is like an acid flash back. Great batrep and cast.
@filipbak1135
@filipbak1135 Жыл бұрын
WAAAAAAAAAAAGH
@nixriviera932
@nixriviera932 11 ай бұрын
Ork warboss gives tp to da boys to mitigate scary shit )
@R3GARnator
@R3GARnator Жыл бұрын
WE'S DA BIG UNS!
@Murasame13
@Murasame13 Жыл бұрын
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
@DrakenhofTemplars
@DrakenhofTemplars Жыл бұрын
I think using WoD on one unit is a waste
@DustKingArchives
@DustKingArchives Жыл бұрын
You just saw Army of darkness or you rewatched it? I’m going to ask again in a live stream
@turinRTS
@turinRTS Жыл бұрын
Rewatched it! Love that movie
@edwingibson7
@edwingibson7 Жыл бұрын
gg
@ElGarlando
@ElGarlando Жыл бұрын
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhh
@TheChaosNova
@TheChaosNova Жыл бұрын
You never cast vampire wins
@decay79
@decay79 Жыл бұрын
Old school Vampire TT lords where great fighters, not that great casters tho.. Can't recall if Mannfred was an exception..
@icepiligrim7102
@icepiligrim7102 Жыл бұрын
Hey Turin if in some way i get to USA i would like to get a jug of beer with you mate!!! Cheers on all the work you do! Waiting when i can catch you on live stream sorry been busy lately 😂
@ForMiles
@ForMiles Жыл бұрын
Turin I think it would be amazing to have legendoftotalwar play pvp exhibition like u coach him on pvp and he coaches u on pve.
@charlesman8722
@charlesman8722 Жыл бұрын
Waaaaaagh!!!!
@bob3ironfist
@bob3ironfist Жыл бұрын
T
@minitopothegamer
@minitopothegamer Жыл бұрын
firsT!!
@WolfPrecision123
@WolfPrecision123 Жыл бұрын
upload frequency is feeding my dopamine addiction
@dustintice897
@dustintice897 Жыл бұрын
First
@bigmcjones230
@bigmcjones230 Жыл бұрын
Tbh I hope they keep nerfing magic so the elite stuff continues to be more viable. As cool as magic is, it's not the centerpiece that makes this game what it is. I'd rather see small elite armies viable than strong magic.
@nerath639
@nerath639 Жыл бұрын
campaign players disagree
@firefang225
@firefang225 Жыл бұрын
@@nerath639 Campaign and MP don't need to be balanced exactly the same though (even though they currently are ofc)
@majorfallacy5926
@majorfallacy5926 Жыл бұрын
@@nerath639 campaign players would agree if the ai was half decent at using magic
@arc4830
@arc4830 Жыл бұрын
This argument makes no sense, as magic also can counter wide armies (ask Tomb kings how they feel vs Burning Head). You put resources into casters, you get results on what you built them to do. No difference to bringing catapults or Mortis engines to counter small elite armies, so should we remove everything except mid tier infantry and lords? Elite infantry is viable, most games against WoC I'd see Chaos Warriors or Chosen to some capacity, and if I haven't got the stuff to counter them, it's a sad old time. In the same way sometimes you just auto lose to a mega wide army because you didn't bring the tools to defeat it.
@majorfallacy5926
@majorfallacy5926 Жыл бұрын
@@arc4830 There's almost a factor 2 difference in value per winds between wiping out a 300g skelly warrior with a 10 winds burning head and wiping out a 1150 unit of black orcs with a 22 winds overcasted pit of shades. And black orcs aren't even among the units that are countered the most. Think Ironsworn/breakers, swordmasters, etc. They are more expensive and get wrecked even harder. And don't forget that there is low armor elite infantry that gets fucked over by a simple burning heads too.
@vincida7432
@vincida7432 Жыл бұрын
WAAAAAAAAAAAGH
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