Elite trick play or illegal pitch? 👀 (via futuresllgnate/X)

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@danielmckay457 12 күн бұрын

I have a lot to say. First, a balk isn’t a thing in softball so please stop calling it that. Second there are no pick offs in softball as a runner is not allowed to disengage from the base until the pitcher has released the ball. Third softball does have illegal pitches but this is not one. It’s a ball because it was an attempted pitch that did not go through the strike zone. Illegal pitches in softball most often come from something called a crow hop when both feet are off the ground simultaneously which the rules state 1 foot must be in contact with the ground at all times. She did that. There is also a rule that the ball can’t pass the pitchers hip more than 3 times and she is good there too. Yet another common way for an illegal pitch to be called is if the pitcher disengages from the rubber before moving forward twords the plate (usually in the windup) but this rarely happens now that 1 foot is allowed to be off the rubber behind the plate. So having said all that this essentially comes down to this; it’s a ball and just like any other called ball it is live and runners advance at their own risk. Yes I am a softball umpire, former coach and league official.

@johnsecor3751 9 күн бұрын

Watch a King and His Court game..Some of the rules fall by the wayside.

@irieapakau4212 8 күн бұрын

Is the pitcher allowed to that purposely? This looks like that!

@gl22222 8 күн бұрын

Yeah, basically what I thought. My little sister played softball and I learned that there aren’t pickoffs. So confused what the team and coach are thinking here.

@dantegargiulo4953 8 күн бұрын

Ouuuuuuu it’s a balk

@moosepunkable 8 күн бұрын

But on your second point what would happen to the runner who disengaded first? Didn’t that occur before the “ball”?

@NebMunb 5 күн бұрын

I accidentally got stuck on this short while washing the dishes, and it starts to sound like a song after a while

@aidan4365 3 күн бұрын

😂😂 so relatable

@JackHarlowisMine Ай бұрын

I’m pretty sure it’s an illegal pitch so it’s just a ball and the runner should be out but idk 🤷‍♀️

@Shaw_111 Ай бұрын

It is an illegal pitch, batter gets a ball. but in this case ball is live and runners may advance at own risk.

@adamellsworth9462 Ай бұрын

@@Shaw_111 except the rule book says ball must pass home plate to be a live ball…

@GenerationDown 18 күн бұрын

@@adamellsworth9462what if for example someone is stealing second base and pitcher turns to throw it to second baseman, baseman misses ball and it keeps going. Runner continues on, you’re saying this isn’t a live ball? Because it didn’t pass home plate? Not arguing just curious.

@darinsuchon3883 15 күн бұрын

I would consider this a Bach, runner gets second no pitch

@pizzle58 12 күн бұрын

@@darinsuchon3883 Johan Sebastian Bach? Lol it’s spelled balk, not bach

@gfunkgadanko5703 29 күн бұрын

The “deytoookhourjobbbs” vibe from the cameraman 😂

@surgeyibrahimovic5013 4 күн бұрын

I get “trump is racist” vibes from this comment

@brodiwheeler7583 2 күн бұрын

Well, he sucks as a cameraman… someone should relieve him of that job too!

@user-ug7lh5hf5t 2 сағат бұрын

That's what I was thinking lol

@Fuggz_dave 2 күн бұрын

"Ball 4, take your base." If only...

@tmoneyman9901 Ай бұрын

That should not be legal

@AustinBarner Ай бұрын

Why?

@natesinko9069 Ай бұрын

My boy your profile dog smurf

@Dynamite-Bang Ай бұрын

@@AustinBarnerit’s a balk so she would be able to get the next base anyway.

@Shaw_111 Ай бұрын

@@Dynamite-Bangthere is no balks in softball. It is called illegal pitch. Only certain illegal pitches are dead balls. In this case it’s an illegal pitch, ball on batter and it is live ball, runner may advance at own risk.

@user-np8yh2ih5t Ай бұрын

It’s not

@PopCornSheffield-ow4vm 6 күн бұрын

Plot twist - the pitcher actually lost control of the ball. They just called it a trick play to avoid another embarrassing play in girls softball.

@heyfindcake7888 Күн бұрын

Believe it

@orangeandbluehoosier 6 күн бұрын

Since I can’t see first base, I can’t say for sure, but this runner either left early (which she’s out) or she’s really oblivious because she didn’t start running until it was clear that the ball was moving towards 2 nd base. In which case , I’m not even mad that she got out.

@nummynutz1 2 күн бұрын

Just because a coach tells early doesn't make it so.

@orangeandbluehoosier Күн бұрын

@@nummynutz1 ???

@almightysosa2803 Ай бұрын

Ngl that shit definitely not legal but it should be 😂😂

@samrouth432 7 күн бұрын

There is no rule stating it’s illegal, the runner also left the bag early

@robertgadling7217 7 күн бұрын

This play is legal.

@hyperdrive6325 21 сағат бұрын

@@robertgadling7217no it’s not lmfao😭

@user-oy7vo3cw9j 15 сағат бұрын

@@hyperdrive6325 I hope u know that it is legal but it’s still called a ball it’s not like baseball in softball there is no “balk”

@davidbell261 5 сағат бұрын

As an ex Umpire and coach my interpretation is its a ball and runner is tagged out. Now if it happens several times by the same team I would have to get the UIC involved to be sure they are not breaking a rule I am not sure about.

@janb6065 Ай бұрын

Illegal pitch def!!!

@butterscotch09 Ай бұрын

Ok if she was on the mound it’s illegal but if she wasn’t perfectly fine idk tho because I only play baseball

@paulfeasal6024 Ай бұрын

I could see this happening in softball but rarely in baseball. Mainly because of how they pitch. I thought this would be called a ball. And the person stealing second would be out. This also could be a foul. So regardless the person running to second wouldn't get second.

@butterscotch09 Ай бұрын

@@paulfeasal6024unless the umpires call it a balk

@greenmonster4918 3 күн бұрын

Softball doesn't have balks. It also did nothing to be an illegal pitch. Therefor it's a ball, and a caught stealing.

@paulfeasal6024 Ай бұрын

A pitcher can throw the ball to any base. Just like like a runner can steal second and third or home. The person on first base ran to second so either way the throw is legal.

@Shaw_111 Ай бұрын

This is softball. They do not pick off like baseball. She was in the wind up to pitch and ball slipped out her hand. This is called an illegal pitch, Ball is called and runners may advance at own risk.

@paulfeasal6024 Ай бұрын

@Shaw_111 I thought it was a ball. Not sure if they made it to second on time.

@garylewis1431 4 күн бұрын

It's not an illegal pitch. It's a pitch that missed the strike zone. Or as it's commonly called, a ball. Otherwise , you're right. Runner can go ince the pitch is released.

@babababad 4 күн бұрын

@@Shaw_111 illegal pitch and DDB if intentional, ball and live if unintentional

@shaneyellin4831 2 күн бұрын

Seems like a well executed trick play. If the runner was fast and they were going on the release of the ball, and it’s called a ball, why not? We should also consider the risk factor of throwing the ball into the outfield or an error which could advance that runner to third.

@user-gu3zz9hr4c Күн бұрын

This video is iconic

@voidman6035 2 күн бұрын

That should be 110 hell 120% legal right there!!!

@screamingaxolotl679 Ай бұрын

in baseball the ball has to go to home plate (or near it if you suck like me) otherwise its a balk if the pitcher did not start their windup and stepped off to throw. but who am I to know, I only play baseball

@tayloryoung8146 11 күн бұрын

A balk is only in baseball bro. There's no such thing as a balk in softball, only an illegal pitch

@babababad 4 күн бұрын

In baseball the ball has to cross the foul line to count as a pitch.

@georgestweeter 3 күн бұрын

This is why the balk rule in baseball exists.

@masonfry 2 күн бұрын

So like if they pretend to pitch the ball and then just turn around and throw it. Basically because it would be impossible to steal bases

@cootingram6265 2 күн бұрын

You'd think that baserunner left early.

@cheeto225 20 сағат бұрын

once in the wind up, it's an illegal pitch and a deadball ball with the runner being put back on first.. if the ball had gone TOWARDS the plate, then it's just a ball and it's all fair game with the runner.. but since it went BACKWARDS, illegal pitch bc she was in the wind up.

@ajd2493 5 күн бұрын

First off that runner was there way to fast there is no way she didn’t leave early

@justinlarwa0502 6 күн бұрын

That’s a damn good trick play!!

@tayloryoung8146 11 күн бұрын

NO SUCH THING AS A BALK IN SOFTBALL

@ETHAyobenji 5 күн бұрын

When a bad thing turns good

@robertgadling7217 7 күн бұрын

If the ball is dropped out of the pitcher's hand during the delivery of the pitch, then the ball is live until it rolls across the foul line, and the runners can run at their own risk. This is a legal play.

@drayker99 6 күн бұрын

Just curious what rolling across the foul line would have to do with it...?

@babababad 4 күн бұрын

@@drayker99nothing. The ball is still live if it crosses the foul line. Maybe OP is thinking of baseball where a ball is only called if the pitch crosses the foul line.

@drayker99 4 күн бұрын

@@babababad that's kinda what I was getting at... Based on his logic a wild pitch that bounces and crosses the foul line without going over the plate would constitute a dead ball 😂...

@Durban1460 2 күн бұрын

Welp that’s a balk. Next question

@Zaythovenfrrr 2 күн бұрын

There's no balk in softball big guy💀

@gavinwhitacre9145 6 сағат бұрын

so crazy how this is a balk and everyone doesn’t get that the runner gets second base and a ball is added to the count

@michaelhellwarth9357 4 күн бұрын

If she did it on purpose, the runner is safe. If it was a mistake the ball was dead as soon as it hits the ground.

@babababad 4 күн бұрын

If unintentional it's a live ball. You're right that a deliberate drop is a base award.

@corybremer684 3 күн бұрын

Incorrect per USSSA Softball rules. If unintentional, ball is live, all play stands. If it is judged by the umpire as deliberate it is still a live ball, dead ball being called AFTER play is finished. All play stands. The offense is then given a choice to accept or decline the ‘ball’. A team warning is issued for the intentional drop. A second offense results in pitcher being restricted to the bench and coach ejected from the game.

@JamesGmoneyBanks 5 күн бұрын

If unintentional, it's legal. If intentional, it's illegal.

@Im.Yer.Huckleberry 3 күн бұрын

Incorrect on the second account. Incidentally, the base runner is the only one who performed an illegal action. She can't run before the ball leaves the pitcher's have. Softball pitching has some different rules than baseball. This will be called a ball against the pitcher and an out against the runner.

@JamesGmoneyBanks 3 күн бұрын

@@Im.Yer.Huckleberry opinions are like, well you know, you've probably been called one at least once in your life.

@Eva-cr8hd 5 күн бұрын

i’ve been playing softball for about 6 years now and one time back in like 10u the other teams pitcher did that (on accident of course) and it was a ball

@cccrivas 2 күн бұрын

As i see it 2 things. Rinner is on a timing play... She timed her run on the release going forward... 2nd, this should be considered an illegal pitch ... Pitcher is comitted to going foward.... So call the pitch a no pitch or ball and the runner should be allowed 2nd. If they appeal field ump decides to send runner back or not. You cant apply 5 different rules here becuase they all contradict each other

@halfassranch8363 2 күн бұрын

Lol at first view I thought the runner slid 😂 I was like oh she has bad depth perception

@MarkHaase-vg6is Күн бұрын

If anything its an illegal pitch, being an illegal pitch, I would call a ball for the pitch and all runners advance 1 base

@stevelawton9849 2 күн бұрын

I have no clue about softball rules… but i absolutely love it!!!

@joshuakemblebluegrass838 7 күн бұрын

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@djdoc06 2 күн бұрын

Since her reaction indicates it was deliberate, I must assume there is no “balk rule” or the rule is vastly different in softball, it would have to be, given how long it takes to pitch a ball. Anything I say would be a wild stab, but since they practiced it, and play wasn’t called dead immediately, I’m going to guess “legal”.

@Coopdog12717 2 күн бұрын

That should be an illegal pitch unless she wasn’t on the mound

@user-li6zy5pq4j 3 күн бұрын

She did NOT plan that 🤔😖

@davidmcbrayer6458 4 күн бұрын

Runner is out for leaving base before ball is released by pitcher

@chrischris7956 5 күн бұрын

I’ve never seen a softball balk before, guess you see something new every day lol

@joshthompson8359 2 күн бұрын

It is what it is... Just that simple!

@Foxiejonesshortsnvids Күн бұрын

I thought it slipped lol

@feliciano1358 3 күн бұрын

If they practice this it's good for them. It's how you play the rules. But I will safe this does need to change for the sport because this is now going to trend as a way to face out the runner to get the out. Integrity is how the players and coach should conduct themselves.

@user-nn2qh8vg1h 6 күн бұрын

That should be considerd a ball and runner should be awarded 2 nd base,the pitcher didn't throw the ball to second base or short stop ? Her hand rotated to make the pitch thus the only player that could make the throw to second would be the catcher? Illegal pitch!!!😮

@willpenney5524 8 күн бұрын

That would be an illegal pitch!

@greenmonster4918 3 күн бұрын

Please enlighten us.... We'll wait.

@maclainrobertson1272 5 күн бұрын

It’s just a called a ball. Ball stays live.

@thebloxburggamer8360 4 күн бұрын

It is completely legal as it can be ruled as a bad pitch.

@smoothjb2384 4 күн бұрын

I think they practiced myself the shortstop was on the ball in like half a second

@derekjuarez9762 12 сағат бұрын

Might not be illegal, but it’s definitely NOT an elite trick play or a high IQ trick play. It’s actually pretty elementary. For one the entire play relies on the runner to attempt to steal second base after the ball is dropped in the vicinity of 2nd base. That’s very low probability. If you want to say it’s in case the runner steals, Instead of pitching just drop the ball “accidentally” which sounds good, but it’s incredibly complex and it’s highly unlikely to work.

@casonedwards5986 3 сағат бұрын

That has to be illegal

@alant.541 6 күн бұрын

GENIUS! Never seen that before. But, I'd have to say that is an illegal pitch. 🤔

@TruthBeTold12 6 күн бұрын

After looking back at it, you easily hear the coach or a fan yell "Early!!" Insinuating the other team's runners had been leaving early on their steals. Clearly this is the case if the coach and pitcher decided to attempt this move. I don't think you can fault the pitcher if you're not going to make the runners follow any rules themselves.. all coach and pitcher did was put the ump in a dilemma lol what you wanna call this one Blue?!

@Officialsubtome Ай бұрын

Illegal pitch

@samrouth432 7 күн бұрын

The batter left early either way

@koreyskidmore4276 8 күн бұрын

Cool play. In baseball it is a balk. Not up on softball rules.

@vonniespriggs8238 8 күн бұрын

Illegal pitch. But the ball is lose and she took off from the base therefore the ball is in play and her ass is OUT ! 😂 I played short stop , 3rd base , catcher and all of outfield. And yess very much so is practiced during practice hours

@OthoWilliamsJr Ай бұрын

Illegal Play, if done on purpose. There is rules for pitchers, & this DEFINITELY would be illegal. Weird how folks want Bend Rules to get an Advantage. I bet they're team ISN'T good neither😂

@fredm.9031 4 күн бұрын

It has to be illegal. I don't know the rules of softball but she's making a move towards home plate so I can't see how that could be legal.

@johnwaite9493 3 күн бұрын

She's on the mound in her wind up lost control so the batter should get the ball call but runner from first that's a tough one

@vidkidsupastar 6 күн бұрын

This is COMPLETELY LEGAL! (Source: trust me bro)

@drakeadkins6711 2 күн бұрын

not sure the softball ruling but that would be a no pitch i baseball since it never crossed the foul lines.

@mikemcdonald9337 6 күн бұрын

I would say that is something compared to a balk

@woodyboyd2961 11 күн бұрын

Pitcher started her motion to home plate. It's an illegal pitch.

@user-hu4iy1wm6n Күн бұрын

I played for the Orcutt Express, back in the GOOD OLE DAYS.... if you know then you KNOW lol but I remember doing this in 10u it's totally awesome and legal.

@brianschlie537 6 күн бұрын

Great play😂

@Denali_Rebel 2 күн бұрын

The silly comedy routine that is baseball has entered softball huh

@roderickerikjohnson7062 17 күн бұрын

Unfortunately the cameraman …

@ajd2493 5 күн бұрын

Dead ball is the only thing that can get called here 🤷🏼‍♂️ anything else the runner would be out immediately

@mmarshall123 6 күн бұрын

Ball 4 take or base!😂😂😂

@BrowniesByTheLake 2 күн бұрын

Can you imagine something this stupid being drawn up in baseball?

@jamesbuckey3054 Күн бұрын

Balk isn't a thing anywhere. It's entirely made up, just like an illegal pitch. No such thing. Everything is what it is, pay attention or you get tricked. No problem found

@Bulkmaster27 5 күн бұрын

If that’s allowed it definitely shouldn’t be.

@leonKennedy0023 27 күн бұрын

First one needs help asap

@BigTexan4 Күн бұрын

Pretty sure that’s an illegal pitch. Don’t know much about softball but wouldn’t this be called a ball? Runner back to first?

@KWally Күн бұрын

Just introduce balks to softball, problem solved.

@TruthBeTold12 6 күн бұрын

If it's illegal for the pitcher, shouldn't it be illegal for the runner? I could be wrong but I thought their pitch had to cross the plate before they could steal..

@babababad 4 күн бұрын

Runner can advance once the ball leaves the pitcher's hand.

@3liCh3n3y Ай бұрын

Balk?

@falconsnake3124 3 күн бұрын

Not a thing in softball

@diegososa7951 16 сағат бұрын

It’s an illegal pitch clearly. She didn’t maintain full control of the ball So it’s a ball and runner goes back to first. I don’t know why there is so much discussion about this. And the person saying left early is a dumb parent like always claiming the other team did something wrong.

@ba_2three458 2 күн бұрын

illegal pitch as it goes behind her.

@joeschal3534 23 сағат бұрын

I mean in baseball i think it may be a balk. But idn if softballl has balks. Never herd one talked about so im thinking rules may b diff

@toddmaccallum5824 2 күн бұрын

So f in smooth!

@J0EB0B555 7 күн бұрын

It would definitely be illegal in baseball. Not sure about softball.

@aidanvanderleiclark Ай бұрын

How else do you get people out who try to stell second base?

@ajd2493 5 күн бұрын

Throw them out ? lol what

@mendelweiss 9 сағат бұрын

If there are No balks in softball, then this is just plain cheating and poor sportsmanship!!!

@mbhog8490 3 күн бұрын

how do balks work in fast pitch softball?

@patrickcole1962 Күн бұрын

It's a ball. No balk in softball

@toddholmes2305 2 күн бұрын

Awesome!

@Ja50n010 2 күн бұрын

Illegal pitch.. clever tho

@personalbestfishing6321 6 күн бұрын

Ball.......that simple.

@mptr1783 3 күн бұрын

Legal in NFHS Softball

@mptr1783 3 күн бұрын

Everyone saying this is an "illegal pitch" are wrong. NFHS Rule 6-2 Art. 6 "When the ball slips from the pitchers hand during the backswing or forward motion, it is a pitch. Effect: Ball is awarded to the batter, and the ball remains in play and runners may advance with liability to be put out. A defensive player may immediately retrieve the ball as long as the batter had no opportunity to contact the pitch."

@beaulewis4787 3 күн бұрын

In baseball that would be a bock but I’m not sure for softball

@johngiantsfreshfocusshorts624 Күн бұрын

I’m not familiar with softball rules as I play baseball and against popular opinion they are not the same sport. I do believe that there are so such things as balks in softball so it’s not a balk. Is it a pickoff or an illegal pitch I’m not sure, but it’s not a ball