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Are You Making This Mistake? // #ABT
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@richardswett8458
@richardswett8458 2 жыл бұрын
I switched to the MFJJ grip method of low wrist and no fingers gripping the riser. It was scary at first but my groups have tremendously tightened. Thanks MFJJ...keep the Wisdom coming!!
@rage9720
@rage9720 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to be able to spend a day with MFJJ! love the knowledge and tips. And Tim your doing great work with the videos and graphics!
@wademoulton5109
@wademoulton5109 6 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! I've been shooting for a long time and this was one of the best lessons ever. I finally stopped torqueing the bow, and my groups have improved dramatically. I've only been practicing this for 3 days. You are an amazing teacher. Thank you for sharing this.
@patrickhuffaker7429
@patrickhuffaker7429 2 жыл бұрын
Here I was this entire time thinking I was gripping my bow properly for some reason. Thank you for explaining and showing this the way you did, you made it super simple to understand, now time to hit the range and get this fixed.
@levithomas1842
@levithomas1842 2 жыл бұрын
As a self taught or "KZfaq certified " archer my grip has ben my nemesis. This is something I had not given any thought.
@partnerj11
@partnerj11 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I love the Ultraview grip. It adds 5 degrees on the bottom of the grip so that way I can shoot a little more high wristed while still gripping properly
@liquid801hlm_9
@liquid801hlm_9 2 жыл бұрын
Love videos like this. I'm brand new to archery so content like this is absolutely killer for someone who can't really pay for coaching
@leejames466
@leejames466 2 жыл бұрын
This has been my problem for the past year. Mad that KZfaq just showed me this video today and not a year ago. Thank you!!!
@DieselArcher
@DieselArcher 2 жыл бұрын
Real solutions to real issues, great videos. These aren’t buy my endorsed products to make you better and fix your problem people.
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
We try our best
@jaysonallen3100
@jaysonallen3100 11 ай бұрын
In my humble amateur opinion. Proper, consistent grip is the #1 fundamental in archery.
@rickd0320
@rickd0320 4 ай бұрын
Great video! Great lesson! I’ve been working on this. It was actually videos I took of myself shooting the lead me to notice I was clinching my bow at release, and I have a sling. So I started shooting open handed, it helped a lot. Then I saw comments about that being wrong, I think because I was extending my fingers which puts tension in your hand so I went back to putting my fingers on the riser very gently. After watching you demonstrate your grip it clicked on how to shoot with an open hand while having it relaxed. I really need to start practicing with a blank bail and eyes closed so I can just feel the shot. Thank you Josh!
@stephenlaney_bjj
@stephenlaney_bjj 2 жыл бұрын
thanks MFJJ for showing us all we suck at gripping the bow. lol. on the real, great info as always.
@ericrock7209
@ericrock7209 Жыл бұрын
Wow! I found a REAL solution to my problem! I’m doing exactly what he was doing in this video. I wish I could send arrows down range every day, but I’m a long haul trucker. When I am home, I do shoot as much as I can. Usually about an hr or so. I do 3 arrows at 20 sets. I don’t want to burn out, but get the reps in and be consistent. Ax a new shooter, I feel that’s the best for me right now. MFJJ, you ROCK, my man! Thanks, bro! 👍🏻👍🏻
@lilmuff69
@lilmuff69 Жыл бұрын
This guy is the best teacher on youtube. Every sentence drills the point home.
@daemon1143
@daemon1143 Жыл бұрын
That is, without doubt, the best explanation and remedial walk through of archery grip I have ever seen. I'd been target pistol shooting for years before I picked up a bow, and high end target pistols have amazingly chunky, sculptured, multiply adjustable or custom carved grips, such that there really is only one way to hold it. It's highly repeatable. I struggled with archery because to me, the grips were absolute shite, until I learned this lesson; they're not grips and you're not meant to grip it.
@nathanielcharles2175
@nathanielcharles2175 13 күн бұрын
Watched this today and applied it to my shooting. It instantly decreased my aim time and increased my accuracy. 🔥
@keithdodson7536
@keithdodson7536 2 жыл бұрын
This man is the Albert Einstein of Archery! Josh Jones u are all around the most knowledgeable ive seen.. And ive been in shooting since 1992!! Much Respect for MFJJ he is one of a kind! Rock On SVA n Elk Shape...👍🏹
@erikkoczian4876
@erikkoczian4876 2 жыл бұрын
In my opinion this is the BEST grip video I’ve ever seen on KZfaq. This video made an immediate impact on my paper tuning issues. Simple and very easy to put into practice. Thanks Elkshape and MFJJ! I’ve recommended this video to many others.
@dippin1788
@dippin1788 2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful! Didnt know the depth and seriousness of shooting that way...thanks boss!!
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@andrewmiller7095
@andrewmiller7095 2 жыл бұрын
ABT is life. Also what if Jake comes out of no where and wins tac
@jonheatlie3809
@jonheatlie3809 2 жыл бұрын
I personally use my chap stick in my fingers while shooting. Amazing tip MFJJ!
@steven_farmer89
@steven_farmer89 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I know I don’t grip the bow correctly, I’ll have to add the corner exercise to my routine….more concerning, Jake isn’t watching elkshape, I know MFJJ has said how to hold the bow before.
@DukeDevildude
@DukeDevildude 2 жыл бұрын
This just changed everything for me. So simple and easily overlooked. Thanks for the help!
@Sapper_Rage
@Sapper_Rage 2 жыл бұрын
Oh man thank you for posting this! Try doing a side plank with the same grip you'd use in archery. You can do it on the ground or use a Pushup bar and train it that way. It will even help you with stability. 🎯⚡🦅
@ccrider0812
@ccrider0812 2 жыл бұрын
I needed this video big time! I recorded myself in slow motion to see how my arrows were flying and instantly saw myself tensing up and gripping the bow right as I was firing. What about some tips on using a thumb release properly?
@wvbowhunter1
@wvbowhunter1 2 жыл бұрын
That would be awesome. I go back and forth with a hinge and thumb realease to practice and struggle to get that same shot sequence with my thumb release. Im assuming that im using it wrong
@michaelcolthart4006
@michaelcolthart4006 2 жыл бұрын
@@wvbowhunter1 do you consciously activate the thumb trigger or do you have it set up to use as a back tension style release?
@wvbowhunter1
@wvbowhunter1 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcolthart4006 i consciously active it. I have a separate release thats a hinge.
@michaelcolthart4006
@michaelcolthart4006 2 жыл бұрын
@@wvbowhunter1 I won’t plug other specific channels here as it seems a bit rude to do so, but there are lots of good videos out there that teach how to use a thumb button in the same manner you use a hinge. In fact, I would be surprised if MFJJ doesn’t have one here or with Elk Shape. It really makes switching between the two very easy. I have a hinge as a training aide/tgt release and a thumb button for hunting.
@wvbowhunter1
@wvbowhunter1 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcolthart4006 appreciate that man
@caseybryant8546
@caseybryant8546 2 жыл бұрын
Glad this popped up today, had issues with fatiguing at the end of a 3D event yesterday. Thanks MFJJ!
@10flyingdutchman
@10flyingdutchman 2 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly timely. Thanks for the content!
@stan5062
@stan5062 Жыл бұрын
Ok, I hold a bow the same as this young man does, and JJ explains the torque changes with that high wrist grip. Now that explains why my groups change over time. I have been trying to figure this out, and I keep blaming it on fatigue, moving the sight. I'm such a newbie and I've been shooting for 25 years.
@WillsGoneWalkabout
@WillsGoneWalkabout 2 жыл бұрын
Sage advice right there. It is good to go back to basics during the off season and force yourself to get better. Keep turning them videos out guys.
@calebbateman8298
@calebbateman8298 2 жыл бұрын
MFJJ bringing the passion to Elk Shape KZfaq! He’s like the Yoda of archery.
@johndenver5029
@johndenver5029 7 ай бұрын
Dan from elkshape is approximately the same size as Yoda I think
@loudogfotog
@loudogfotog 2 жыл бұрын
So technical! So good! Thanks
@samventura5455
@samventura5455 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had someone like this to coach me up.
@edgarsolorzano512
@edgarsolorzano512 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this class! I needed it ,I kept avoiding this part of of shooting a bow! I’m a struggling Archer coming back from two shoulder injuries and a accumulation of years!. Thanks again you have a great crew !
@bluesjunke
@bluesjunke 2 жыл бұрын
After watching this video today I went out and shot my second Robin Hood in the last 46 days. I knew I was holding something wrong, now I know it was my grip placement. Thanks for the video. I have been shooting archery off and on for the past 42 years. Shot the same bow for 26 years and picked up a new Mathew V3 31 back in August of 2021.
@antonioriverajr.6555
@antonioriverajr.6555 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content guys, as beginning Archer this channel and MFJJ’s channel y’all are helping me TONS!!
@kevinwright3564
@kevinwright3564 2 жыл бұрын
I practiced that grip using a piece of an arrow that I cut off to stop me touching the front of the bow. Lots to get used to.
@carbon2carbonoutdoors606
@carbon2carbonoutdoors606 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome man. Y’all’s page as well as podium has been extremely helpful to me over the past several months
@Lintball36
@Lintball36 Жыл бұрын
I actually purchased my whole setup from SVA in that store and met Josh. His bleeding passion and knowledge of archery made me become more passionate about the sport itself. In fact it almost made me think I'm in the wrong business. Glad I'm close enough to visit this store. Thank you for this video as well because it actually showed me the things I'm doing right without realizing that. It also reaffirmed what I know I do wrong which is snatching the bow during a release. Little gorilla glue in my palm will fix that...😂
@joshuabates4759
@joshuabates4759 2 жыл бұрын
I've shot wrist sling my whole life. As a kid, was taught put your hand up like stop sign, put bow in crease down through center of palm, relax the fingers. Bow does what it wants in shot follow through, and doesn't fall because of the sling. Good info
@Twiztidm1nd
@Twiztidm1nd 2 жыл бұрын
This man makes me wanna move to washington! So much knowledge
@tuckercase
@tuckercase 2 жыл бұрын
This video was made for me!! Thanks for the tips guys! Greatly appreciate the content gents!
@petebeck6696
@petebeck6696 2 жыл бұрын
True shot coach trainer helped me from touching the front of my riser.
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
Word!
@brucescott7023
@brucescott7023 2 жыл бұрын
I have to admit I'm definitely guilty in doing this!! Thankyou for sharing will definitely give this a go...
@ernestpries6992
@ernestpries6992 2 жыл бұрын
This absolutely took all torque out!!!!! Thank you!!!!!!!!
@BackcountryAddictions
@BackcountryAddictions 2 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal information! Absolute game changer! Thanks for sharing as always! Bryce
@AlexandStuff
@AlexandStuff 2 жыл бұрын
I want to thank you for this honest video. I recently picked up a new bow and Ive been struggling with the comfort of the grip. I just went out and shot a round of 12 with my fingers wide open, just using my palm against the grip. Not only was it more comfortable, but my groups were tighter. It was weird at first as I kept feeling the bow was going to fall when I was drawing back, but I just had to have confidence that wasnt going to happen and get used to it. Thank you again!!!
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it helped friend!
@keithmather2842
@keithmather2842 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I’m sorry that your friend did you like he did.
@BobbyB1776
@BobbyB1776 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and a great teaching tool . Thanks a lot guys
@mtnroseoutdoors8814
@mtnroseoutdoors8814 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s exactly what I’ve been doing! Thanks MFJJ! I was wondering why I wasn’t being as consistent the longer I shot, and that’s most likely the reason! Thanks for the tips!
@joshuaryan980
@joshuaryan980 2 жыл бұрын
The opening to this video is funny as shit!!!!
@bloodlinesarchery
@bloodlinesarchery 2 жыл бұрын
I used to shoot high wrist and switched to this style a few years back. I had to shorten my draw length about 1/2 inch to be able to cradle the grip properly.
@vancejohnson1778
@vancejohnson1778 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos that are a little slap in the face! Keep em coming! And congrats on 50k subs
@Sheribahadur67
@Sheribahadur67 2 жыл бұрын
This is an awesome video as it completely makes sense. Do not put any extra outside energy into the bow grip, at all. Taking the wrist out of the grip is not easy to explain, I guess.
@jayonez137
@jayonez137 2 жыл бұрын
Great video guys! Once again, Priceless information!
@shawnwiens965
@shawnwiens965 2 жыл бұрын
Great info, as always. I definitely want to make a trip to Spokane Valley Archery and get a lesson with MFJJ and get my equipment dialed in.
@ApexPredatorOutdoors
@ApexPredatorOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid man! I used to always touch the front of the bow. It's hard to break the grab the bow instinct so it doesn't drop!
@jackdunham3327
@jackdunham3327 Жыл бұрын
Best lesson I ever watched
@normankaster917
@normankaster917 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, had to really work on this myself
@BucksBeesS.C.
@BucksBeesS.C. Жыл бұрын
Thats a great advice and something to practice
@brianlattimer9903
@brianlattimer9903 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Really good Stuff MFJJ!!!
@NickyZee
@NickyZee 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice. Can’t wait to try this tomorrow. #ABT
@Taus.Schumacher_
@Taus.Schumacher_ 5 ай бұрын
Thanks that’s was very helpful 🙏🏻
@enaznhoj
@enaznhoj Жыл бұрын
Great instruction and student open to learning.
@tysobol
@tysobol 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm definitely trying that wax trick with a lighter or something tonight. Thanks for the awesome content!
@jolookstothestars6358
@jolookstothestars6358 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff. I'm heading home to shot some arrows.....the right way.
@dannyvlanich7923
@dannyvlanich7923 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Will definitely have to try the wax in the hand tip
@justinsmith2117
@justinsmith2117 Жыл бұрын
Something my local shop told me to try is to not grab my bow until my arrow hits my target, just thinking about that during the shot process and after the shot helped me dramatically
@ElkShape
@ElkShape Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@raysimonds3927
@raysimonds3927 2 жыл бұрын
Great info. Hope this works for me. I've been having a hell of a time trying to tune my new bow and this might be the problem
@darnellwatkins4031
@darnellwatkins4031 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, this works.
@FireStartersYG
@FireStartersYG 2 жыл бұрын
This video! 👏🏼 super helpful!
@ashtonrose27
@ashtonrose27 2 жыл бұрын
So that's why I've been so inconsistent with my VXR. Left and right
@BroomfieldRR
@BroomfieldRR 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought my first bow, a Bear Species. I realize I need to adjust my hold. I'm keeping the fingers loose, but only keeping the upper part of my hand on the riser.
@1989inception
@1989inception 2 жыл бұрын
Really good info! I dont use my fingers to grip the bow but my wrist is down slightly not as bad as his tho. So having it fully palmed will improve stability. Thank you
@braunavery
@braunavery 2 жыл бұрын
“MFJJ is all knowing”
@ruebencaballero9511
@ruebencaballero9511 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff right there!
@drmitofit2673
@drmitofit2673 Жыл бұрын
His problem stems from him not having a wrist sling, standard on every ready-to-hunt box store bow. Even when holding the bee's wax with his fingers he is grabbing the bow with his thumb.
@jason6787
@jason6787 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. It all makes sense.
@dannyb7847
@dannyb7847 2 жыл бұрын
Shoot daily!! Always getting better. I can’t wait to get off work every day to go shoot!!
@Aldocello1
@Aldocello1 2 ай бұрын
I started practicing holding a sharpee cap , we always have them with us in out kit
@nicolasmora5395
@nicolasmora5395 2 жыл бұрын
Watching these videos, I always wonder if I do the same thing. Makes me anxious to get home and try it myself.
@elkdeerfish
@elkdeerfish 2 жыл бұрын
I use a bic lighter and seems to work well. I like these informative videos; this is great info to improve your form.
@mathews2088
@mathews2088 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Honestly genius in simplicity
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@RakkaSan7219
@RakkaSan7219 7 ай бұрын
Prime example showing why to use wrist slings! Just let the bow fall on release of shot....let the sling catch it. Takes to worry of dropping your bow out of mind...so you can put all energy in to the shot....not the Oh Don't Drop My $1300 bow!!!
@mayhem035
@mayhem035 Жыл бұрын
Man mfjj you are a good shooting teacher! I've been working on that just instinctively but not the total wrist position.. think sometime after 3 hrs of shooting I might touche my grip with a finger or 2 and everything start going mayhem...
@keithholst6891
@keithholst6891 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@mattooninnovation
@mattooninnovation 2 жыл бұрын
MFJJ, wouldn’t carrying a high wrist also add a bit to your draw length as well? I’m not talking about an inch, but more like 1/4” - 1/2”, depending on how high/straight the wrist is. With that, going from a high wrist (held by muscle) to a relaxed wrist that follows the grip or riser angle will slightly change where you anchor by a small change in draw length, correct? If you are a high wristed shooter, you may need to adjust your d-loop or draw length to keep the same anchor point (again, not talking inches).I use the “stop signal” position. If you hold your arm out (without a bow) and then make the stop signal like you would do if signaling someone driving a car, your hand/wrist should be right where it is naturally best positioned for relaxed and repeatable shooting. Holding your bow in that position does exactly what you are showing here in this video. Keep up on the good info sharing! We are building the militia of Robin Hooders every day!
@lorihamrick9349
@lorihamrick9349 2 жыл бұрын
Good information. Do you have a video talking about the proper shoulder placement. Would like to hear more about aiming as well.
@jacknaleway6515
@jacknaleway6515 2 жыл бұрын
I feel attacked by this video. But it was such a revelation as to what I’ve been doing wrong! One more step for my shot process but that’s ok it can be repeatable! Sorry Jake had to be the brunt of it. But let him know I do/did the same exact grip. Thanks for this one
@Code325
@Code325 2 жыл бұрын
So I know Jake even mentioned it, but it wasn’t well addressed in this video - it seems to me that there would be 0.5-1” difference in draw length between the high wrist and proper wrist.
@mikevillarreal9973
@mikevillarreal9973 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I feel all the psi in the heel of the hand. Will have to try this.
@ElkShape
@ElkShape 2 жыл бұрын
ABT
@pamholst3980
@pamholst3980 2 жыл бұрын
Great advice
@twc6771
@twc6771 2 жыл бұрын
Very good information excellent video.
@StanielP
@StanielP 2 жыл бұрын
I think the reason he can’t hold his hand up the way you’re asking is because he has his elbow too straight instead of just outside of straight and with a slight bend
@ramondetta12
@ramondetta12 2 жыл бұрын
Great info!
@waynestevenson9613
@waynestevenson9613 2 жыл бұрын
Try the Neet True Shot Coach! Helps a lot!
@oldpapawwithastrat9384
@oldpapawwithastrat9384 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the post. I see a few traditional bows on the wall. Could you showcase them in a video? Thanks
@stevenmarcouillier2531
@stevenmarcouillier2531 2 жыл бұрын
Great video since I have Covid I will practice with my fingers off the riser thanks for the videos going elk hunting this year for my first experience bow hunting of course hey if you guys coming up north east please let me know so I can meet you guys I am from Boston ma if you guys do any tac close to me love to shoot with you guys thank
@derekgray2866
@derekgray2866 2 жыл бұрын
With knowledge like this there is no way Dan is taking down MFJJ at TAC.
@dwalker1873
@dwalker1873 2 жыл бұрын
KNOWLEDGE BOMB! So does MFJJ recommend a wrist/finger sling or not?
@phillipfessenden7705
@phillipfessenden7705 Жыл бұрын
I’m totally going to try this, lately I can’t figure out why I’m shooting right, my bow was dialed it. But I have an elbow injury and didn’t shoot for almost 6 months. And I’m thinking it’s the way I grip, and with my new release as I’m seems to have misplaced my old one
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