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Ellen G. White and True Adventist Theology

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HopeLives365

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@haroldmichael2227
@haroldmichael2227 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much. I now have a better understanding of the MEANING OF TESTIMONY OF JESUS. Thd ministry of the Holy Spirit is absolutely amazing. In my own experience of reading Mrs. White writing is just like what has been said here. I read STEP TO CHRIST just to improve my English, then the Holy Spirit lovingly and amazingly brought me to JESUS and the Bible. I learn to understand the Bible through Mrs. White writing in my early stage of conversion. Now I see the beautiful truth of the word of God and can't afford to miss my daily Scripture reading. I am absolutely convinced Mrs. White role as appointed by God no matter what others negative opinions are.
@andvel2
@andvel2 Жыл бұрын
I have read through most of the "Spirit Of Prophecy" writings, If you read Daniel and Revelation in one sitting you see a flow of events that took place till He (Jesus) appeared the first time and Revelation takes us through the seven churches and Ellen was part of the "Philadelphia" Church experience then she writes much on the last days (Church of Laodicea) the lukewarmness of the current SDA congregational churches all throughout the world. We have been given much and much will be asked of us on the day of God? Even though she had partly third grade education, how God helped her to write it and its all inspired. "God Breathed" when you read the Bible God gives us understanding. I don't think many Adventists understand what it means to loose salvation if we stay lukewarm possessed with earthly treasures, all of us can see how the heathen nations rage and shocking floods, fires, earthquakes in diverse places (Matt 24), as long as apostasy goes on in America, America will loose everything they worked hard for? God is visiting every nation in Judgement now, for we are living in the hour of His judgement! The apostate churches preach the false gospels and their knowledge on the prophecies are all over the place and deceiving billions! because they have missed the Mark on Christ's ministry in the heavenly Sanctuary since He ascended on High and sat on the right hand of the heavenly Father. One must understand the first angel's message and look at the Commandments of God in Exodus 20: 1-17 then we will understand the second and the third angels' messages. When the latter rain is falling all around us we might miss it because of lack of Spirit and Prayers for us and others, searching of the Scriptures, knowledge won't save us but these knowledge as long as we are led by the Spirit to hold on to Jesus in the "Most Holy Place" having forgiven every sin and be ready to meet Him. Spirit of Prophecy is an excellent pointer to the deep searching of the Scriptures. God bless you!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@shellygee137
@shellygee137 Жыл бұрын
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv Make sure that you add 1 to your answer because there is no year zero. Time in years went from 1 BC to 1 AD. 2300 - 1844 = 456 + 1 = 457 BC. Also, prophecy uses time prophetically: 1 day = 1 year. So it's 2300 years, not 2300 days. Yes, GOD, the Holy Spirit is not a man that He should lie. GOD cannot lie. Hope this helps your understanding. 🙏🏾
@samuelwilliams1559
@samuelwilliams1559 Жыл бұрын
Saying that is not a proof.
@double-edge_publishing
@double-edge_publishing Жыл бұрын
This is SO helpful to me. I have had to answer people around me who despise EGW and call her a false prophet. This presentation with its many clarifications is refreshing. Such a blessing to my battered soul after dealing with doubters of her ministry from within the church and from without.
@brownfeather865
@brownfeather865 Жыл бұрын
I will say this, Follow God, and no man! That's why people are calling her a false prophet. They speak more about her than Jesus!
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@brownfeather865 that’s what Ellen white said as well, follow God and not man. How does people making the mistake of putting EGW first make her a false prophet?
@brownfeather865
@brownfeather865 Жыл бұрын
@JustA Messenger If you can't figure it out yourself, then you are certainly lost! See, you said that's what she said! I'm telling you what God said....
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@brownfeather865 Whether I can figure out what you mean or not does not determine whether I am lost or not. Lol. Yes, her saying it means she followed the same principle you stated, follow God and not man. So she would agree with you that’s what the Bible teaches. But your reason for saying she is a false prophet makes no sense. People who mistakenly hold her writings over the Bible does not mean she is false, it means that those people are wrong, not her. Whether a prophet is true or false is defined by Isaiah 8:20, not by the actions of some of her followers. Ellen white taught that the Bible is above everything, including her wrotings. A false prophet would not say this. So please explain how peolle mistakenly putting her words above the Bible makes her a false prophet. Out of curiousity, have you ever read her books?
@double-edge_publishing
@double-edge_publishing Жыл бұрын
@@chrislucastheprotestantview I have heard of this explanation before. Unfortunately it is incorrect. Let me clarify some things. 1. It's a waste of time discussing the actual month or day the day of Atonement falls on. SDA do not celebrate the day of Atonement. The term is used as a spiritual application only. No one in 1844 was looking for an actual day of Atonement; therefore, trying to explain things in a literal sense is a waste of time. 2. The Scriptures whether in English or Hebrew says 2300 evenings and mornings (or evenings mornings). The Scriptures absolutely do not say 1150 evenings and mornings. Each would no longer be a day. Imagine if in Genesis 1 God created the world in 3 days if we take your reasoning further. That's how silly it is to say the same about 2300 evenings and mornings. Read different Bible versions from varied scholarly commentators; they all typically have "days" or "evenings and mornings" (which is saying ABSOLUTELY the same thing). The Scriptures do not cut the timeline in half. There is ABSOLUTELY no reason AT ALL to do this other than to use it as a THEORY sense other means don't work for those trying to get Antiochus to fulfill it. 3. The word "sacrifices" is not in the Hebrew or originals. Bible translators supplied it to the phrase "daily" BUT it is not in the originals. The "daily", as a result, is referring to other matters than simply sacrifices and has greater spiritual application because the little horn would last till the TIME OF THE END. THE VISION IS FOR THE TIME OF THE END, according to the angel speaking with Daniel; THEREFORE, it is also clear that Antiochus Epiphanes is not the little horn. FURTHERMORE, Jesus referred to the prophecy. How can Antiochus be the fulfillment if Jesus referred to the same prophecy? And FURTHERMORE, how can the little horn antichrist be the fulfillment if Paul himself reminded the church that the prophecy was YET to be fulfilled in the person of the Papacy in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12? So, lots of homework there.
@dorinbalaban128
@dorinbalaban128 Жыл бұрын
I truly loved this presentation. We should receive all these Testimonies from Jesus given to us in love, we all our hearts. All true Seventh-day-Adventists will believe and preach these 7 doctrines; Salvation, Scripture, Second coming, State of the dead, Spirit of prophecy, Sabbath, Sanctuary.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Жыл бұрын
​@@JamieElison lf it hurts us to hear the lies --- how much God is NOT glorified
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Жыл бұрын
@@JamieElison l think I was agreeing with you that sda preached lies. It breaks God's heart 😒
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Жыл бұрын
Dotin ballaban --- for the eternal good of your soul ask the Lord Jesus Christ to show you the wonderful finished work of our Lord Jesus Christ. IT IS FINISHED!! God will NOT accept any other WAY
@robertsharali7538
@robertsharali7538 Жыл бұрын
Happy sabbath ☺ to all sabbath keepers around the world 🌎.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@danmoen755
@danmoen755 Жыл бұрын
Is there a sabbath keeper anywhere and how? Hopefully but how? Oh agree be happy on the sabbath😮😊 Where are you in this world? I'm in Colorado.
@turtlegrams6582
@turtlegrams6582 Жыл бұрын
​@@danmoen755 , google the closest 7th Day Adventist church near you and Pray that they teach "the Old 7th Day Beliefs , it they don't Run and find one that does , like Walter Veith on youtube
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@danmoen755 Yes there are sabbath keepers. I am one.
@charlesmargolin6832
@charlesmargolin6832 Жыл бұрын
Jesus's body was dead on the sabbath..death is a total rest..He wanted the world to die to sabbath keeping..& to keep His resurrection in their resurrection to new life..thru His blood..into everlasting & eternal life..with Him dwelling in our hearts as Lord & Saviour forever..once a person becomes a Christian, he will always be a Christian..hemay normt always think & act like a Christian.. but he will always be a Christian ..the relationship is unbreakable & irrevocable & unconditional..so he can backslide into heaven..like Aninias & Sapphira..but not into hell..there is a sin unto physical death for a Christian..shortening his life..to keep him from going to hell.. this is the doctrine of Baptist churches..any church or any person can believe that..any Lost person can pray asking Christ to come into his heart & to bring his dead spirit to life & to cleanse it past & present & future..so that He can dwell there as their Saviour & Lord..on the throne in their heart.."He that hath begun a good work in you shall perform it unto the day of redemption".."He is the author & finisher of our faith".."whatever God does, He does forever".."we are kept by His power".."when you drink of this water, you will never thirst again"
@Yazmin578
@Yazmin578 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath to all my brothers and sisters out there. Be Blessed🙏🙏
@davidappleton2905
@davidappleton2905 Жыл бұрын
Lord Jesus finished His work on the cross, His death burial, and resurrection, no other work is required.
@charlesmargolin6832
@charlesmargolin6832 Жыл бұрын
You are correct..in order for a lost person to be saved..he needs to pray asking Christ to come into his heart..& to bring his dead spirit to life..with His perfect blood. & to cleanse him of his sins in his past & present & future..all in one moment..asking for Christ to come into his heart forever to stay.. setting up an eternal & unbreakable relationship with him..reinging upon the themrone of his heart forever as his Saviour & Lord..salvation is a gift..the gift comes after a sinner prays asking for salvation.
@troywest
@troywest 29 күн бұрын
Amen !!! Investigative Judgement was a poor excuse for the 1844 debacle - It IS finished ! Amen
@sandrasealy954
@sandrasealy954 Жыл бұрын
I read through the bible with her books once, was a new convert, I need to do it again. Happy Sabbath
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
That would be great. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@healinghumanity1782
@healinghumanity1782 7 ай бұрын
Ellen White has been of immense blessing to my life. Even now, as a participant in Baha’i Community, her words energize my daily life. Mrs. White wrote: “We are all woven together in the great web of humanity, and whatever we can do to benefit and uplift others will reflect in blessing upon ourselves.” Thanks, professor Merlin & all Adventists, for keeping alive the wonderful message of Ellen White & William Miller.
@HL365
@HL365 7 ай бұрын
We praise God that you are blessed by the writing of Ellen White. If I may ask you, why are you a participant of the Baha'i community? Please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would love to talk to you about it.
@lingchristine6413
@lingchristine6413 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath from the East.🙏❤️✝️🌹
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@georgehenry8073
@georgehenry8073 Жыл бұрын
Not even Jesus knows the time of his coming so drop these prophecies by anyone be it EG White
@babettedeniseferrando3967
@babettedeniseferrando3967 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath brethren. 🙏
@dennistinethompson1116
@dennistinethompson1116 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath and God's richest blessings from Jamaica 🇯🇲
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@saltui64
@saltui64 Жыл бұрын
Awesome message. Thanks for sharing. God bless your ministry
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@lromanow1
@lromanow1 Жыл бұрын
This is such a great presentation ! Finally it has sounded clearly where the Adventist doctrine comes from and moreover it is backed by sound and thorough historical studies. Thank you for this dr. Merlin Burt
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@james2895
@james2895 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath from Rwanda! Be blessed, Remnant Church
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@retsepkro8186
@retsepkro8186 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath to us all ❤❤❤
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@raecross8872
@raecross8872 Жыл бұрын
Excellent talk. Always interested in our Adventist heritage
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Very good!
@nathaliec7330
@nathaliec7330 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath 😍🙏🏻💕
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@innocenteli6181
@innocenteli6181 Жыл бұрын
Bless the name of the LORD for inspired HIS people through them we're so bless today let's pray for each other that OUR LORD can use us also to be HIS messengers GOD bless you pass .one day soon we'll spending the sabbath with the LORD
@sylviamiddleton8154
@sylviamiddleton8154 Жыл бұрын
Wonderful study! Enjoyed it so much! Thank you! Praise God for His Love, His Mercy, and His Grace!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@dauthuc8807
@dauthuc8807 11 ай бұрын
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tvMary what’s salvation???
@dauthuc8807
@dauthuc8807 11 ай бұрын
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv I hate stories and that’s why I’m an SDA, can you send me scriptures????…how can I understand this
@thomaspollock-ek4vn
@thomaspollock-ek4vn 12 күн бұрын
Happy Happy Happy Sabbath day's rest to you all. How blessed we are as 7th Day Adventist believers to be alive during these sobering times we are living in today.
@HL365
@HL365 8 күн бұрын
Hope you had good sabbath.
@dennoggi587
@dennoggi587 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath. This is comforting. I have seen alot of false accusations against EGW...even she was labeled false prophet...but this presentation was inspiring to me as a convert to Seventh Day Adventist church. Praise God for EGW and Adventist church.
@gdg1963
@gdg1963 Жыл бұрын
Shabbat Shalom!!!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@fredm9510
@fredm9510 Жыл бұрын
Excellent lesson
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@garysouthwell5762
@garysouthwell5762 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant exposition of the Entire Spirit of Prophecy for our time in relationship to Accepted Canonical Scripture!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! We’re glad Dr. Burt was able to share this through our KZfaq channel.
@suzzyq
@suzzyq Жыл бұрын
Did she not say that if we read and studied our bibles like we should we wouldn't need the writings?
@lettyalvarado8181
@lettyalvarado8181 8 ай бұрын
Yes, she did but since the Bible states that if you really want to have any gift, the gift of prophecy is the best one to chose so God decided to give to Seventhdayv adventists.
@beltoftruth56
@beltoftruth56 Ай бұрын
She also said " read the books that explain the scriptures " , I think it was a nice way she was trying to say to read my books and maybe some of the pioneers books​@@lettyalvarado8181
@wildmountainthyme2394
@wildmountainthyme2394 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this presentation - what a blessing!❤
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Жыл бұрын
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv pray that God will deliver these poor folks out of satanic grip. Only God can OPEN their eyes to the truth of the finished work of the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Жыл бұрын
@@HL365 please Sir --- you WILL regret misleading these poor souls in eternity. Teachers will be judged more harshly
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Жыл бұрын
@@JamieElison that shows God is seeking to convict him
@sudandhali7545
@sudandhali7545 Жыл бұрын
Why Alen G. White is an urgent to be referred while you're talking about/ teaching the Word of God?
@justarnold3
@justarnold3 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath from Zambia 🇿🇲
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@tessiec.nadumasino6694
@tessiec.nadumasino6694 Жыл бұрын
Blessed Sabbath everyone!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@gordo191
@gordo191 Жыл бұрын
Blessed SABBATH EVERONE !!!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@gordo191
@gordo191 Жыл бұрын
@@JamieElisonI felt like a change
@mamalittle9851
@mamalittle9851 Жыл бұрын
happy Sabbath, thank for sharing, every little bit help, keep it coming God bless 🙏 🙏🙏
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@waytopeacetv
@waytopeacetv Жыл бұрын
People of the BOOK... 🙏🙏🙏Amen!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@PRMLA777
@PRMLA777 Жыл бұрын
Sleeping people of the book in time we live in.
@markgreen9009
@markgreen9009 Жыл бұрын
Thank God for the eternal gift of prophecy Which has illuminated our darkness with light eternal
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@dauthuc8807
@dauthuc8807 11 ай бұрын
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tvwhy are you here with your “feelings”???!……can you help anyone with feelings 😢
@dauthuc8807
@dauthuc8807 11 ай бұрын
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv my dear I sat down to read the scripture for years till God show me his salvation…..how I wish you could show me scriptures your salvation is based on and I will be delighted that you saved my soul……..NEVER SAY TO SOMEONE THAT DEVIL IS IN YOUR HEART!, HOW CAN YOU SAVE ME LIKE THIS..AND REMEMBER WHAT JESUS SAID
@papoortiz6559
@papoortiz6559 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath everyone blessing beautiful history.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@Milo-wl6qn
@Milo-wl6qn Жыл бұрын
“In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.” ‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭1‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭NIV‬‬
@Milo-wl6qn
@Milo-wl6qn Жыл бұрын
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv exactly!!!!
@crestinamartinez5196
@crestinamartinez5196 Жыл бұрын
I love this even tho I didn't get to write all he say but I praise GOD for this study GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME
@andvel2
@andvel2 Жыл бұрын
Just read the Book "Steps to Christ" There is a wonderful principle in that book that draws you in, i have given bible studies based on that and many have come to Christ and been baptized!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@lafaelerobertson599
@lafaelerobertson599 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath Pastor
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@malachiandou1642
@malachiandou1642 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for opening our understanding on the work of this servant of the Lord.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Mary, please take a listen to the presentation.
@wildlines
@wildlines Жыл бұрын
It is only today I was able to find this channel. Thank you for this presentation. It is worth watching. God bless!❤
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad you found our KZfaq channel. Be sure to visit back every week for new contents.
@wildlines
@wildlines Жыл бұрын
@@HL365 I'll definitely make sure to visit back every week to see what's new. It's great to know that there will always be fresh content to look forward to. Keep up the good work!😇
@Joshuatree7746
@Joshuatree7746 Жыл бұрын
Run. RUN NOW! Read Hebrews 7:27 Unlike the other high priests, he does not need to offer sacrifices day after day, first for his own sins, and then for the sins of the people. He sacrificed for their sins once for all when he offered himself.
@jerrinmathew861
@jerrinmathew861 Жыл бұрын
❤Happy Sabbath World
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@barbiebaby8057
@barbiebaby8057 Жыл бұрын
Sabbath blessings to everyone
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@roseflor135
@roseflor135 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath Saints of God ❤️💐🎁💕
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Sabbath Blessings when it comes!
@ncbluegrassevents1984
@ncbluegrassevents1984 Жыл бұрын
It is so rich! We have a great treasure - a great trophy- let us not throw it away! Stand up stand up for Jesus. He is coming back very soon
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Amen. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@l.glucid9077
@l.glucid9077 Жыл бұрын
I am very suspicious of anyone that will not read from the King James Bible 🤔
@juliekellogg6366
@juliekellogg6366 Жыл бұрын
Who are you referring to?
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
We’d like to know your reasoning, email us about it- info@hopelives365.com
@guymontag349
@guymontag349 Жыл бұрын
If we are people of the book, and Ellen White always pointed people to the book, and we believe in the principle of Sola Scriptura, then why do we need Ellen White and continue to quote her? Shouldn't the Bible be all we need?
@ricardoleslie9811
@ricardoleslie9811 Жыл бұрын
Why do you use different sources when researching? For greater clarity... deeper understanding. Her writings help to magnify God's Word.
@adaramolabunmi4667
@adaramolabunmi4667 Жыл бұрын
Why do you listen to sermons since you have your Bible? If you know and believe that listening to good and godly sermons is right then reading and quoting Ellen books is also similar to listening to sermons. And as long as her writings is not against the scripture then why should we despise and her writings so much. I have come to realize that many in the SDA church hate to hear anything about Ellen white simply because her writings are rebuke to their lives, those who hate ELLEN WHITE writings are the enemy of the church and are not ready to change their attitude base on her writings and warnings. Just as the pharisees saw Jesus as a threat to them so also many in the church today are the descendants of the pharisees, they hate the sayings and writings of ELLEN WHITE, her writings are simply threat to their ungodly lives.
@ricardoleslie9811
@ricardoleslie9811 Жыл бұрын
Even Sis White (as she was called back then) herself encouraged others to first go to the scriptures... not her testimonies. She was a messenger of God pointing all to the scriptures- God's word.
@dauthuc8807
@dauthuc8807 11 ай бұрын
@@adaramolabunmi4667exactly dear brother God bless you
@dauthuc8807
@dauthuc8807 11 ай бұрын
@@ricardoleslie9811people want to live like Egyptians, I understand why people rebel against Moses and God in the desert
@sawnyarheet1040
@sawnyarheet1040 Жыл бұрын
God is good!!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@howardloewen1834
@howardloewen1834 Жыл бұрын
"God is love" is neither the first words or the last words in the completely trustworthy Volumes 1-4 of Spirit of Prophecy, the hardbacks of which I have and read daily. However, I also read the 5 Volume Conflict of the Ages series.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
God is love is the first and last phrase of the conflict of the ages series.
@deborachesterfield8079
@deborachesterfield8079 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath from Indiana❤️
@deborachesterfield8079
@deborachesterfield8079 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all God's gifts from Ellen White. Thank you that I can receive this message
@jamesmwanza9826
@jamesmwanza9826 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath brethren
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@jessemoreno3199
@jessemoreno3199 Жыл бұрын
God bless you pastor
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@ToiseyAfflick-wq5hf
@ToiseyAfflick-wq5hf 2 ай бұрын
IAM blown away by this illustration of sis white point us to the Bible and help to understand the truth
@nylaandpep
@nylaandpep Жыл бұрын
Sabbath greetings & blessings to you as well sister!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@user-fv5ms4sz8e
@user-fv5ms4sz8e Жыл бұрын
Christ is our Sabbath rest. He instructed to come to Him to find rest. He is the Lord of the Sabbath rest. Paul tried to emphasize this as believers argued over days to worship. It was the Jews major flaw in dealing with scripture, making it legalistic and physical. Christ is our Sabbath rest, which makes every day holy and sacred.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
Jesus did not replace the sabbath day. The Bible does not support that.
@charlesmargolin6832
@charlesmargolin6832 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you..once you are saved, you will always be saved..a true sabbath rest in Christ never ends.. being born again is forever.
@gracegooch4791
@gracegooch4791 Жыл бұрын
It is about the whole law!❤
@georgemartin.3311
@georgemartin.3311 Жыл бұрын
Grateful for the presentation, is there a way to have those charts in soft copies
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Which charts are you referring to? Email us about it, info@hopelives365.com
@amandaboyens7948
@amandaboyens7948 Ай бұрын
My Great Grandfather was an SDA missionary, Pastor. My grandma grew up in India from 1925 to 1940 when she was sent by her parents to live in the US
@HL365
@HL365 Ай бұрын
Wow! That's amazing. What is his name? May that missionary continue to live on.
@amandaboyens7948
@amandaboyens7948 Ай бұрын
@@HL365 Rembrandt Peale Morris :)
@nancyguerrero4726
@nancyguerrero4726 Жыл бұрын
Prayer for wisdom🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
We will pray for you.
@ThyWordIsTruthJ17
@ThyWordIsTruthJ17 Жыл бұрын
I think we are overly sensitive to placating those that are unconverted in the Church in regard to the authority of Ellen White. Those that are genuinely converted will hear the voice of the good Shepherd in her writings. We don't need to be equivocal about our certainty in the authority behind her writings.
@ricardoleslie9811
@ricardoleslie9811 Жыл бұрын
@Thy Word Is Truth...I honestly do not understand what you are trying to say. Please speak plainly so that, I, a simple-minded person, can understand. I am not being rude... I seriously do not understand. Could you rephrase it, but in simpler terms?
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk Жыл бұрын
Who is the one true Shepherd in Ezek? hint- it's not who u think it is.
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk Жыл бұрын
@Jamie Elison u know who Ezek is, u have seen Ezek, Jer, Isa, etc many times in ur study, and if u are familiar with the book of Ezek, u would know who, by name, is the the one true Shepherd that will be in the Eternal Kingdom in the future, are u familiar with the book of Ezekiel? Yes No?
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk Жыл бұрын
@Jamie Elison It has everything to do with the conversation, are u paying attention? Does good Shepherd ring a bell?
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk Жыл бұрын
@@JamieElison wake up Ezek 34:23,24 Ezek 37:24,25
@canadiancontrarian3668
@canadiancontrarian3668 Жыл бұрын
Amen...a very appropriate title to your sermon. And yet, how is it that our present church proclaims a gospel other than that which EGW and the pioneers of our church first established? Why is it that our present fundamental beliefs starkly differ to that which was originally validated by the very Spirit of God, and thereby recorded? The 1872 fundamental principles conflict with that which is documented in our 1980 beliefs. How did this come to be?
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Could you please email us at info@Hopelives365.com with more details about the concerns with evidence and we would love to discuss with you about it.
@canadiancontrarian3668
@canadiancontrarian3668 Жыл бұрын
@@HL365 You say 'concerns with evidence'. Is not the very evidence contained and self-evident in the 1872 fundamental principles? It is all there in 'detail'. Should not all SDA members be 'concerned' that our church has wandered away from the pillars of our pioneers?
@howardloewen1834
@howardloewen1834 Жыл бұрын
The 28 Fundamental Beliefs have 3 God's, look at 3-5. The Bible portrays one (1) God - James 2:19 etc. The White Estate will give you the run around. The Bible says to "ask for the old paths..but they (SDA Church) said "we will not walk therein." Jeremiah 6:16. YES the 1872 Fundamental Principles should be still used!!!
@canadiancontrarian3668
@canadiancontrarian3668 Жыл бұрын
@@howardloewen1834 Thankyou for chiming in. I do see that we are on the same page on this. Recently there are more church members that are awakening to the truth of our God. It is far more than a shame to find that our denomination has buried the old truth. They have venerated 'another god'. Our heavenly Father is calling his remnant. HIS OWN Spirit is poking and prodding the spirit of man.
@ladyempire5921
@ladyempire5921 Жыл бұрын
Did E. White not have access the New Testement? How could she/they predict the arrival of Jesus Christ in 1844 when according to Scripture, no man knows the day nor the hour, not even Jesus Christ? I would greatly appreciate some insight/answers. Thank you.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
Ellen white did not predict the second coming.
@ladyempire5921
@ladyempire5921 Жыл бұрын
@@justamessenger4577 that is why I stated "they" . Some either before or after her were rooted in the Great Disappointment of 1844. That is the clarification I'm seeking.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@ladyempire5921 The prediction of the second coming in 1844 was made by William miller. He started preaching it in the 1830s. Ellen white and others heard him preach it at some point and joined his movement. Why William miller did not take “no one knows the day or hour” into account, I do not know.
@ladyempire5921
@ladyempire5921 Жыл бұрын
@@justamessenger4577 thank you. I just don't understand how or why some SDA take her word (EGW) above Gods when she was a part of a movement that did not take the scriptures into account on some occasions. The way she is "lifted" up is sometimes a hindrance to the true work of the gospel.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@ladyempire5921 When William miller was preaching the second coming, ellen white was not getting visions yet. She did not start having them until after the great disappointment. And one thing that she taught after that was that “no one knows the day nor hour”. She was very adamant that predictions about the second coming were not allowed. So she would agree with you that “no one knows the day nor hour”. Her writings follow the Bible very well. We do not hold her writings above the Bible, not even she did. She made it clear that her writings were not meant to replace the Bible. Some may have put her writings above the Bible, but I have not met any that do this and I have been an Adventist for over 20 years.
@rickid.ramgoolie3758
@rickid.ramgoolie3758 Жыл бұрын
Where can I find the presentation on the Sabbath that was referenced? The presenter said that the Sabbath was presented in the context of righteousness by faith. Is that online?
@themessagenow169
@themessagenow169 Жыл бұрын
Well , when Ellen White is writing about the Sabbath,she is including righteousness by faith ,all her books contain righteousness by faith
@frankobengmensah6380
@frankobengmensah6380 Жыл бұрын
Sabbath Sholom 😊
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@rachelbinnong8948
@rachelbinnong8948 Жыл бұрын
Happy sabbath every one
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Hope you had a good Sabbath.
@joeverduzco8102
@joeverduzco8102 11 ай бұрын
Happy that I left SDA.
@HL365
@HL365 11 ай бұрын
We're sorry to hear that. What are your reasons? We'd like to hear from you. Please email us at info@Hopelives365.com
@pasafaga55
@pasafaga55 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing that up from her critics.
@KimberlyADarling
@KimberlyADarling Жыл бұрын
Wow I’m so relieved. Praise zehhh Lord🙌
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@Kevinproblem
@Kevinproblem Жыл бұрын
Amen LORD!!!
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Amen!
@gigi0727
@gigi0727 5 ай бұрын
The greatest command is to love one another- to come and reason… I am always astounded by the hate that spews and exposes the senders.
@HL365
@HL365 4 ай бұрын
Yes. We must love each other as ourselves.
@crestinamartinez5196
@crestinamartinez5196 Жыл бұрын
Happy SABBATH
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@manudas9344
@manudas9344 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath............Manu from Malta
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@DavidCloud-i2y
@DavidCloud-i2y 8 күн бұрын
God bless SDA
@HL365
@HL365 7 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@brightonsikombe
@brightonsikombe Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath too
@markjulius6905
@markjulius6905 Жыл бұрын
Where can one download the powerpoint presentation.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Sorry. That is not available.
@nsengiyumvaeliphaz9782
@nsengiyumvaeliphaz9782 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@1941MGR
@1941MGR 20 күн бұрын
Those that put EGW down have little or no knowledge on her work but choose to prejudge her
@HL365
@HL365 20 күн бұрын
You are right.
@lindaloftin5484
@lindaloftin5484 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath Evening Everyone 😊
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@aylerum6809
@aylerum6809 Жыл бұрын
Praise God for his manifestation
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Amen. Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@krscaninHR
@krscaninHR 9 ай бұрын
I know that Adventist would never admit this, but it seems to me that in Adventism (besides the few who come as believers from other churches, probably "convicted" about the Sabbath) the order of knowledge is Ellen White --> the Bible --> Jesus. So logically, you are viewing the Bible and Jesus through the lens of Ellen White visions. Very similar what the Catholics have in visions of their saints and Mary and so on. Very disturbing.
@HL365
@HL365 9 ай бұрын
Hi Friend, No, we don't see the Bible or Jesus through Ellen White. We would never admit that we do because that is not true. There may be some here and there who might have such a view, which is wrong; that is not something that we teach. Take a look at all of our fundamental doctrines; you will see that all of them come directly from the Bible. Here is the link:www.adventist.org/beliefs/ If you have any other thoughts or would like to discuss more, please do email us at info@hopelives365.com, and we would be glad to talk to you about it.
@krscaninHR
@krscaninHR 9 ай бұрын
@@HL365 Hello to you too, friend. A simple question - why is Jesus doing the work in heaven, as you say - investigated judgment, according to the law and levitical priesthood when Hebrew 7,8,9,10 says that He - is a priest according to the Melchisedek so therefore the law neccesary needed to be changed (7:18,19,28) and He entered into the Heaven itself which is said that is earthly Holy of Holies (9:12,24; 10:12)?
@brianmiroro
@brianmiroro 3 ай бұрын
I like to be like you too in Jesus name I pray
@HL365
@HL365 3 ай бұрын
Let's strive to be like Jesus. May God bless you.
@keke7085
@keke7085 Жыл бұрын
we say her writings direct us to scriptures but the church often directs us to her writings, I think this is issue, especially for younger generations. After her, was there no one else who had insight which also contributed to the church? Also I have wondered so much about the investigative judgment and its Biblical basis. Our salvation through Jesus sacrifice for us isn’t that complete? thanks for any insight
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
The investigative judgement has its biblical foundation several ways: 1) revelation 22:12 Jesus said He is coming with rewards. That means who gets what reward has already been determined. Which then means this was “investigated” before He returns. 2) check out anytime God pronounced judgment on anyone (Adam/eve, Sodom and Gomorrah, the flood, babel, etc). There are many examples of an investigation being done prior to judgment in the Bible. 3) Daniel shows books being opened before the second coming (Daniel 7:10)
@terry5914
@terry5914 Жыл бұрын
EGW's writings, or original books more specifically, have been changed by re-editing and now have become the focus of SDA members to keep reading in place of the greater light, aka, the Authorized Bible, aka, the KJV. God did not give anyone the authorization to change or mess with the words of his prophets, including his prophets.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@terry5914 That is a generalized statement you are making. SDA in general do not put her writings above the Bible. Some may but I haven’t met any.
@terry5914
@terry5914 Жыл бұрын
@@justamessenger4577 What ever it is, got only a portion of it acknowledged. Do you think it is alright to change the words of God's messengers?
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk
@MichaelSmith-qc7nk Жыл бұрын
What exactly is Scripture? Do u know?
@neilrowe119
@neilrowe119 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for this presentation
@HL365
@HL365 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@adamhawes3787
@adamhawes3787 Жыл бұрын
Revelation 14:6-12, with its description of the messages of the three angels, stands at the very heart of Seventh-day Adventist identity as Ellen White saw it. She held from the beginning of her ministry to its end nearly 71 years later that God had especially commissioned Adventism to preach the message of the third angel. EWIT 120.3 Catch the sense of mission in her words: “In a special sense Seventh-day Adventists have been set in the world as watchmen and light bearers. To them has been entrusted the last warning for a perishing world.... They have been given a work of the most solemn import-the proclamation of the first, second, and third angels’ messages. There is no other work of so great importance. They are to allow nothing else to absorb their attention. EWIT 120.4 “The most solemn truths ever entrusted to mortals have been given to us to proclaim to the world. The proclamation of these truths is to be our work. The world is to be warned, and God’s people are to be true to the trust committed to them.”-Testimonies for the Church 9:19 EWIT 120.5 Like the other Seventh-day Adventist leaders, Ellen White viewed the three angels’ messages as a “perfect chain of truth” (Early Writings, 256) that extended from the 1840s to the end of time. The first message (the hour of the arrival of God’s judgment), they concluded, had been initiated by the preaching of William Miller in the 1830s and 1840s, while the second (the fall of Babylon) began to be preached in 1843
@adamhawes3787
@adamhawes3787 Жыл бұрын
@@JamieElison what is ???
@adamhawes3787
@adamhawes3787 Жыл бұрын
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv 457 ???
@vijay-fz7pp
@vijay-fz7pp Жыл бұрын
what is the ethinicity of ellen white? just curious!
@rcloft86
@rcloft86 Жыл бұрын
How are these paintings not a transgression of 10 commandments. I am not here to argue, I am trying to wrap my head around Ellen white, I have accepted the Sabbath of God, I don't know what to do with that yet. I also caught young men would have visions, why would scripture say this and then it be a young woman.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Please email us about this and we can help you. Our email, info@hopelives365.com
@susanvaneeden234
@susanvaneeden234 Жыл бұрын
Lovely message
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@catherinezimba8885
@catherinezimba8885 Жыл бұрын
Happy Sabbath 🙏🏽
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Hope you had a good Sabbath!
@yualkhimthong6478
@yualkhimthong6478 Жыл бұрын
praise Lord
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@joshuanurse-endtimewatcher
@joshuanurse-endtimewatcher 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely
@HL365
@HL365 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. May God bless you.
@howardloewen1834
@howardloewen1834 Жыл бұрын
If you look at the very head of the line in that picture Robert Folkenberg is leading the line, not Jesus.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Sorry, that’s not correct.
@howardloewen1834
@howardloewen1834 Жыл бұрын
@@HL365 It is Folkenberg, look closer. I had that picture until I noticed that and threw it away. If you think the SDA church is being led by Jesus you are mistaken. "The church has turned back from following Christ her leader and is steadily retreating toward Egypt." 5T 217 "The church is in the Laodicean state. The presence of God is not in her midst." LDE 49
@barbarapalmer2843
@barbarapalmer2843 4 ай бұрын
Did Ellen G. White write anything in her books and in her articles or in her correspondence or say anything in her sermons about the involvement of Africans in the slave trade? I would like to have references to that.
@HL365
@HL365 4 ай бұрын
I'm not aware but you can search here: egwwritings.org
@PerryClinton
@PerryClinton Жыл бұрын
Not sure if this has been addressed in the comments as yet. However I’d like to know more about the Chart. “1843” chart I think it was called.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Please email us at info@hopelives365.com and we would be glad to talk you.
@sudandhali7545
@sudandhali7545 Жыл бұрын
No, I didn't miss that point. But my question is: Why Ellen G. White's works are important to understand to understand the Word of God? If she were a woman of God( God knows better) what about other men of God? Now is it that we need to know about all other men of God ( not mentioned in the Bible) and then we should advance to study the Word of God? Is it biblical? Are you appointed by God to tell your audience all this - preaching Ellen White? Answer me after visiting God.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
Did you watch what was presented in the video?
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Please email us this question and we’ll be glad to answer you. Our email, info@hopelives365.com
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@JamieElison Who are you talking about? If you are referring to who uploaded the video, just email them. They even mentioned that option in this thread.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@JamieElison Earlier you mentioned what a true Christian would do. Well desiring to debate someone openly just so you can show them up is not the way a Christian goes about things. So if you consider yourself a Christian, you are not acting like one.
@andrettanylund830
@andrettanylund830 11 ай бұрын
Why not believe in Joseph Smith. Or Mary Eddy.
@HL365
@HL365 11 ай бұрын
Unlike Ellen White, they are false prophets. Please watch this to learn what we believe about Ellen White: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb51lKaBxM_FonU.html
@nuggetoftruth-ericking7489
@nuggetoftruth-ericking7489 Жыл бұрын
Day keeping and food are not the test of true Christian faith.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
Doing anything God requires is a test of faith. For example, the sabbath. It takes a good amount of faith to reject a high paying job that requires work on the sabbath. I was unemployed for a year after I retired from the military because everyone I interviewed with wanted me to work on sabbath. I finally got a job that did not require work on sabbath. God got us through the time of unemployment until He opened up an opportunity for me. So keeping the sabbath is a test of faith.
@charlesmargolin6832
@charlesmargolin6832 Жыл бұрын
@justamessenger4577 keeping the Saturday sabbath is the sign of being in a non-christian cult..to be saved our faith needs to rest in the new testament resurrection of Christ..his body was dead in the grave on Saturday..nothing was done on Saturday.. nothing can save no one..to be saved, there has to be the resurrection of Christ & the new life in Christ involved.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@charlesmargolin6832 It is clear you do not know what SDA believe. Let me make this clear. We don’t keep the sabbath to be saved, this is a very common misconception that is not unique to you. We are saved by the grace of God, that is one of our foundational beliefs. We keep the sabbath because we are saved and becasue we love Jesus. And as you said, we hold to the promise of the resurrection because Jesus was resurrected. No SDA would disagree with you. Now that you know what SDA believe in this area, do you still think we are a cult? Especially since when it comes to being saved, we believe the same thing you do? And Jesus being in the grave on sabbath and “nothing happening” on the sabbath does not change anything.
@charnelallan7159
@charnelallan7159 Жыл бұрын
​@@justamessenger4577 IF U DONT KEEP THE SABBATH TO BE SAVED WHY IS OBSERVANCE OF THE CEREMONIAL 7TH DAY SABBATH THE SEAL OF GOD? THE ENTRY MARKER INTO HEAVEN? IF U DONT SEE THE CONTRADICTIONS UR CLEARLY INDOCTRINATED
@christinebarbeau3191
@christinebarbeau3191 8 ай бұрын
I'm not a member of the SDA. Read through Lev 11 , Acts 15 :21 , Eph 2 :12 , Matt 9;16-19 , John 14:15, 1John 5:2-3 , Romans 13:9 , Deut 2:28. I can list more scripture for you if needed. Have you ever heard the expression you are what you eat ? Do you realize the animals that roll around in or eat their own excrement literally carry parasites and bacterium ? Have you ever heard that approximately 90% or more of all disease known to man is related to gut health ? I'm looking into these topics since, if nothing else, it's logical and biblical. A neighbor just gave me some of Ellen Whites writings. Very interesting, so far.
@sophfieta5534
@sophfieta5534 Жыл бұрын
@thy word is truth: no need to be defensive. Let people ask questions without knocking them down. This is how we are seeking truth from God. This sermon was meant to share theology possibly to support EGW as prophetess, however I just don’t see it. This sounds like a presentation given when touring at a museum. I was hoping for something more. I don’t have time to devote to read all her works and in the big scheme of things, I would rather read the Bible, the original and only work I should be focusing on. Maybe others are tired of reading the Bible and that is why she her writings point back to the Bible, but for me the Bible is enough.
@soniabambe741
@soniabambe741 Жыл бұрын
Thé bible IS enough why we need HW writing
@soniabambe741
@soniabambe741 Жыл бұрын
@@howardloewen1834 please Tell me why do you need her writing?? The bible IS God word don't you Trust thé Holy spirit ? I go to a adventist church in France and i worship thé Most High not the writing of HW. She was wrong about the coming of Christ " Christ Saïd only God knows " Why do we believe her to guide us now God words are alive have a nice day Howard nice sharing with you on the net
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Hi Soph Fieta and Sonia Bambé, You are very much welcome to ask any questions you have. Please email us at info@Hopelives365.com. Regarding the need for Ellen White, we do have a lot of materials that we can share. I'd highly encourage you to watch this video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lb51lKaBxM_FonU.html The Bible authors predicted that the gift of prophecy will extend till the end of time. Ephesians 4:11-14, Revelation 12:17, Joel 2:28, and Matthew 24:5,11,24 for example. So if you truly believe the Bible, then you truly must believe that God would raise up a prophet before the end of time.
@jeanleroux6915
@jeanleroux6915 Жыл бұрын
My problem with E.G.White is that she claims that Moses was resurrected to "immortal life". This is not found in Scripture. In fact it contradicts the word of God.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
Why is Moses being resurrected to immortal life not biblical? He appears to Jesus along with Elijah, so something happened.
@jeanleroux6915
@jeanleroux6915 Жыл бұрын
@@justamessenger4577 Thank you for your question. The Holy Bible claims that only God is immortal. Jesus stated that no man has gone to heaven. The account of Moses on the mount of transfiguration was a VISION. There is not a single verse in all the Scriptures that Moses was raised from the dead to immortal life. In Hebrews 11 it is clear that nobody has yet received the promise. Not a single person has gone to heaven. On this the Bible is clear.
@justamessenger4577
@justamessenger4577 Жыл бұрын
@@jeanleroux6915 Then what is going on in Jude 1:9? Why would the archangel contend with Satan over the body of Moses if he wasn’t going to be resurrected? There would not be a discussion about it. But Jude shows that there was a contention. And where is Enoch and Elijah? Enoch was taken by God (genesis 5) and Elijah was taken into heaven (2 kings 2:11). I understand what Jesus said in John 3:13 but Elijah and Enoch contradict what you believe Jesus meant. And since the Bible doesn’t contradict itself, Jesus may have meant something else. Perhaps when He said “no man has ascended to heaven” that He meant no man on earth has gone into heaven on their own. Cuz it is obvious that Elijah and Enoch are there but they did not fly up there on their own, they were taken. This shows that there is no issue with Moses being in heaven as long as God is the one who got him there.
@jeanleroux6915
@jeanleroux6915 Жыл бұрын
@@justamessenger4577 Thank you. There is no place for "Jesus MAY have meant something else", or "PERHAPS when He said “no man has ascended to heaven” that He meant no man on earth has gone into heaven on their own" The Bible is clear. Here is what the Bible has to say. Thus sayeth the Lord Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. Jude 1.9 makes no mention of the resurrection of Moses Jude 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee. Luke 9. 28-36 is revealed as a VISION Mat 17:9 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the VISION to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. (The word vision, (Horama, in Greek, is found 12 times in the New Testament, and in each case it represents a supernatural vision) The account of Elijah in 2 Kings 2 does not state that Elijah was taken to the abode of God. He was lifted by a whirlwind into the sky, and we read that people went to look for him on earth. 2Ki 2:16 And they said unto him, Behold now, there be with thy servants fifty strong men; let them go, we pray thee, and seek thy master: lest peradventure the Spirit of the LORD hath taken him up, and cast him upon some mountain, or into some valley. And he said, Ye shall not send. 2Ki 2:17 And when they urged him till he was ashamed, he said, Send. They sent therefore fifty men; and they sought three days, but found him not. Further to this we have confirmation that Elijah was still alive on earth. Here we read that some six to eight years after this account that Elijah sent a letter to king Jehoram 2Ch 21:12 And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah, Matthew 27. 45-56 makes no mention of those raised being in heaven. Genesis 5. 22-24 says that Enoch died (ALL his days was 365 years, and he was TAKEN.) Gen 5:24 And Enoch walked with God: and he was not;H369 for God took him. Here is the dictionary definition for “was not” (H369) H369 אין 'ayin ay'-yin As if from a primitive root meaning to be nothing or not exist; a non-entity; generally used as a negative particle: - else, except, fail [father-] less, be gone, in [-curable], neither, never, no (where), none, nor (any, thing), not, nothing, to nought, past, un [-searchable], well-nigh, without, Compare H370. Hebrews 11 Please read Heb 11:13 These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. Jesus clearly stated that no man has ascended to heaven. I believe Him. The Scriptural evidence given is clear. I am interested to know for what reason Enoch was taken to heaven. Please let me know if Jesus was in error on this subject , or did He not know that Enoch, Elijah and Moses were in heaven? I look forward to hearing from you on this. Thank you
@messenger1
@messenger1 Жыл бұрын
@@jeanleroux6915 Hello Jean, I just want to tell you that I see that you have done an in-depth study on this subject. Your reading of the Scriptures is correct and spot on. Obviously you cannot be fooled by the false teachings based on E.G White writings, being dished up by the SDA Church. Well done! Here is a note that I sent to @JustA Messenger who seems to be unable to refute or even reply to your post. I sincerely do not think you will get a truthful reply from the church on this matter. Messenger 1 1 second ago @JustA Messenger "Our beliefs are based on th Bible and not what Ellen white wrote". I am astounded that you can make this comment. I have read the thread between Jean le Roux and yourself regarding the "resurrection of Moses" with Elijah, and Enoch being in heaven Jean le Roux gave you the correct Biblical readings and proves without any doubt that the SDA church has set aside the Holy Bible to accept the White Gospels as truth on this matter. Jean le Roux has given texts to prove that your belief rejects the clear Word of God, in favour of White and attempts to massage the Bible to fit White's writings. For example, amongst other points raised, how can Moses be raised to immortal life when the Bible states that only God has immortality? I will be waiting and watching to see your reply to Jean le Roux. You will be able to give an answer, will you? I doubt you can, somehow, but I hope I am wrong.
@valeriejohnson4204
@valeriejohnson4204 Жыл бұрын
One thing I know about prophecy if it's really from God there are no mistakes..Never
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
That is not true. Prophets when they have visions do experience certain supernatural phenomenon. You can read about it in Daniel 10. If you have further questions, please email us at info@hopelives365.com
@malcolmnoel9044
@malcolmnoel9044 Жыл бұрын
QUOTE FROM E.G.WHITE. Since the law of the Lord IS PERFECT...every variation of it MUST be evil. Desire of Ages page 267 (See Psalms 19:7) One day Jesus met some folks tampering with one of God's ten commandment and he told them THEIR WORSHIP WAS IN VAIN! Mathew 15:9 Many Sunday worshippers are waiting on judgement morning to be told by Jesus that their worship WAS IN VAIN! ...... HOW SAD.
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Жыл бұрын
@@MaryMartinez-lm5tv the Bible says that the Just SHALL live by faith and the law is NOT of faith!!!!
@Over-for-now
@Over-for-now Жыл бұрын
Also, if the law justified us then Jesus died in vain
@frankpeppel1289
@frankpeppel1289 11 ай бұрын
They were not errors, they were as God wanted them
@HL365
@HL365 11 ай бұрын
What are you talking about?
@glendaduncan7089
@glendaduncan7089 Жыл бұрын
We are the Sanctuary that Christ is preparing, We are the Place that Christ is gone to Prepare, so that where he is, we will be Also. Where is Christ? Christ is at the Right hand of His Father, Where is the Right of the Father? Is God's Word, the POWER to Speak the Word of God with Boldness, With Authority, with Courage, Without Fear and Trembling. That's How Christ was fill with the Holy Ghost, and that's Where he want us to be with him. Heaven is not a Place you go to, The Kingdom of Heaven is Within Us. Christ is the Church, And the Church is Within Us. That's the Truth. Christ is the RESSURRECTION Christ is the Life. Christ is the Beginning Christ is the End Christ Gospel is the End. When we hear the Gospel that's when the End Come, because the The Gospel of Christ is the End.
@charlesmargolin6832
@charlesmargolin6832 Жыл бұрын
I think that you are trying to speak the truth..but you may have confused your words..but not on purpose..the kingdom of God is within you..that is when you are saved..the kingdom of Heaven Imis the 1000 yr. reign of Christ upon this earth following the 7 yrs of tribulation upon this earth..which follows the rapture of the church from the earth..the church is the bride of Christ..the church is the body of Christ..Christ is at the right hand of God..in heaven..sitting upon His throne there..but He is also sitting forever upon the throne in the heart of each Christian..as His eternal Saviour & Lord.
@charlesmargolin6832
@charlesmargolin6832 Жыл бұрын
There are saved churches are there are lost churches..there are churches that are mixed with both saved & lost people..the church is just a gathering of people..the church of Laodicea was lost..Christ was knocking upon the door. Wanting to come in..to prepare them for the rapture & the marriage supper of the Lamb..but they would not let Him in..so that church will go into the tribulation..some may be saved by the preaching of Moses & Elijah..but many.. if not all..with receive the strong delusion of the antichrist..because they will believe his lies..the church of Philadelphia is raptured to the safety of heaven..that church will go the marriage supper of the Lamb & judgement seat of Christ to receive rewards..some Christians at the marriage supper of the Lamb will be seated at the end of the table in outer darkness.. weeping & gnashing their teeth for 1007 yrs..but with the new heaven & new earth...when this old earth & universe is restored..their tears & bad memories will be wiped away..they backslid into heaven by the skin of their teeth..& they were saved so as by fire..like Aninias and Sapphira.
@howardloewen1834
@howardloewen1834 Жыл бұрын
Her writings are the lesser light to lead us to the greater Light - JESUS
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
Yes.
@HL365
@HL365 Жыл бұрын
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