'you are the friend to whom my soul is attached as to its better half! you are the most amiable, the most perfect of women! and you are dearer to me than language has the power of telling!'

Naturally the one her sweet breath. It's not only a compliment for her, it's also for her mother and her teeth...

Oh for sure the one where he lies his great fortune at her feet like a proud puppy bringing his master's slippers.

“My lady you make my breeches drop faster than the leaves in autumn.”

oh DANG!

Hahaha ha, love those lines. Needed a laugh today and you gave it to me. Thank you, thank you.

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Mr Collins could have had a prolific writing career!

But he delivers them so naturally, no one would suspect!

Oh believe me no one would suspect his lines to be rehearsed

Mr Collins is so Mr Cringe he is hilarious

@@irondiver2034 it's because he gives as unstudied an air as possible.

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😂 Right? It's would be so uncomfortable!!! How did they survive? 🧐

If the kissing thing happend to me, you whould find me 300 years from now on a True Crime podcast... The nerve of some ppl...

😂 It’s so true!

Shocked me, actually. I know there were rules as to how a woman turned down a man. Always acknowledge the compliment: "I am flattered, but..." or "You pay me a great honor, but...". I've taught my teens to always start a rejection like that--straight forward & kind. So, I was shocked to learn that the same courtesy wasn't extended to the woman who refused. Most period romances, the lady receives at least three proposals. I don't remember other suitors insulting the lady like Mr. Collins, though.

It is basically the equivalent of your standard "nice guy" response to rejection today.

The same guys who act like this today do often claim to be "real gentlemen" too. They aren't entirely wrong it seems.

This has actually happened more recently in the pickup artist "community." According to guys that were involved in that world for many years, a lot of the techniques worked well at first, but once they got spread throughout the "community," they stopped working because too many girls had already heard it all before.

I'm very old, my husband has alzheimers, he recently told me how beautiful I am. BTW I've never been more than passable. ❤😂

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One of the most romantic lines ever!

Funny, but sooo convoluted :-) Imagine if you tend to stutter when nervous and then trying to get it out in one breath XD

It’s all about passion back then! Even if it’s not real... 😂

You've made me think about Mr Collins' claims that he practices those little flatteries women like and how much they reflect Sensibility rather than Sense. I think JA is clear she's not a fan of Sensibility through Marianne's early behaviour and of course Mr Collins.

@@SusanLH JA obviously had a very analytical persona. Most great authors do. They understand the what & how of human interactions.

Mr. Collins, such a romantic that he surely recycled his proposal to Lizzie for dear Charlotte

Aw, that would be cute. And I would be super impressed too on getting permission first too.

And threaten her, if her answer sounds even a bit like a "No"

They're in free ebook format! The links are in the description below the video! It's really cool because the British Library has teamed up with Google Books to digitize part of their collection of old books and make then available online.

@@EllieDashwood Thank you for telling me! I saw the titles in the description. I didn't click on them, though. I've learned a valuable lesson today. I can't wait to check them out.

Yes, definitely don't! All those poor Georgian Era girls getting kissed way more than they ever wanted. 🙁

Yeah, that part is creepy. The rejection lines are creepy too.

😂 So true.

@@EllieDashwood Pretty much the same as today. Lol

Well, most women indeed had to marry, so...

😂 So true. I’d love to see it attempted though, and to see how modern women would react to them.

I think even Georgian women thought these lines were BS.

You'd have to dress the part in order to pull it off, I think.

😂 He definitely needs flirting help!

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Good one! One up for you :D

With the addition of "The Nice Guy's Way To Handle Rejection"

😂😂😂😂😂 That is so funny. That guy definitely needs these tips... 😂

@@EllieDashwood Oh where is my Darcy? 😂

Yay! I'm so glad you're enjoying the videos! 😃

Ellie has a captivating, passionate and humorous approach to everything about Regency upper middle class England.

Most men were incels back then. Unless they consorted with harlots.

Yay! I’m so glad it helped!

😂 Maybe they tallied them in their journal. Like, "Today I got two more "your breath is like roses" and another "you make me witty"..." 😂

They are! As soon as I found these guides and started reading them, I knew I needed to share their greatness! 😂

I am so glad you did🥰

😂 Well, Mr Darcy ends up getting the girl in the end anyway!

Women are people, it might be easier to talk keeping this idea in mind 😉 hope the situation is improving even without my late advise.

Yeah. They're very familiar. Never use them again.

Clearly you were meant to be a 18th century gentleman!

@@EllieDashwood I'm more of a 19th century gentleman, but I do appreciate 18th century art music and literature.

@@melissamybubbles6139 LOL

I once read a quote from Cassanova (1910s) about how he was so successful at wooing women: "I tell a beautiful woman that she is intelligent. I tell an intelligent woman that she is beautiful." I noticed that none of the quotes that Ellie read referred to intellect. But, it is true that women want to be admired for it all. We want to be looked upon as both lovely & intelligent & a "good person". So, if one feature is dominant to all, compliment the other.

Ah! Yay! 😃

yes am curious too! I think ladies back then used their hand fans as a way to discreetly flirt.

Aw! Thank you!!!

Aw, thank you so much! And welcome to the channel! Also, the part about me maturing as a presenter makes me laugh. Whenever I watch the first video I published on this channel I just facepalm and ask, "WHY?!?!" 😂 Also, that's a super interesting topic idea! Thank you.

😂 The also loved fainting. A lot of ending up on the floor, I suppose. 😂

@@EllieDashwood Maybe all the fainting was just a ruse to get a better look at feet.

They also liked dom/sub stuff apparently lol

You’re welcome! Thanks for watching!

Aw, thank you! Welcome to the channel!

Those are all great questions! 1. I think that they're definitely for the romantics like Marianne and those of Sensibility. They're all about feeling, passion and sensitivity. 2. I actually talk about the breach of promise thing a little bit in next week's video! I think mostly the men only start mentioning marriage in the proposals (which they had time to think through ahead of time), but the danger really presents it self in how the women responds. Otherwise, the men are pretty vague. I mean, his life might depend on her smiles, but they don't have to be married to do that. lol. 3. It's overall the feel of the some of Darcy's lines that remind me of the underlying sentiment and world view. Such as when Elizabeth and him are dancing and she wants to sketch his character. And he says, "“I would by no means suspend any pleasure of yours." 😂 Also, the links to read all of the books I mention in this video are in the description below the video! The British Library plus Google Books have digitized them into free ebooks for us.

@@EllieDashwood It's always great listening to your videos and exploring them further. So glad you explore breach of promise further. It's always interested me that it's looked at as something women do when I understand more men pursued breach of contract than women. All those male written Victorian novels I suppose. I will look up the books. It would have been part of everybody's education to know what to say, when to say it and who to say it to (witness Mr Collins' faux pas) and I will look for how these crop up in JA novels. I look forward to next week.

😂 Imagine if a guy from back then got transported to today, how many people he could creep out.

That would be like that movie Kate and Leopold. Except he was not creepy lol

I was just thinking, so many of these would be worthless today.

It would be like a scene from _Les Visiteurs._

Heheh yeah, the Georgian Era: Home of the NipSlip!! 🤭

Yes! It’s set to come out next Friday!

@@EllieDashwood I should have watched the video before commenting because you said right at the beginning that you're doing a follow up next week.

Try "Hello, I'm incredibly rich."

😂 It’s my natural gothic coloring coming out. Seriously, as a kid the no. 1 thing everyone said to me was either “You look like Wednesday from the Addams Family” or “You look like the girl from Casper.” (Both played by Christina Ricci at the time. Who of course later went on to star in Sleepy Hollow too 😂) Anyway, Mina Harker is new!

@@EllieDashwood well I was thinking Winona's Red Mina dress in the 91 film. The really Victorian sexy one with her hair on either side of her face at times. You're wearing a red shirt with your warmish hair giving the same low key effect. I dunno if I'd have thought about the others!! 😂

I dare you to try it and find out! 🤣 For science!

That’s interesting!

What on earth ?

First of all, that should be Spanish Coin. Secondly those lines were pretty over the top.

Colins does love to memorize lines. 😂