The BEST shelves for media - Blu-rays, DVDs, Video Games, Funko Pops, etc.

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These are the absolute BEST shelves for storing Blu-rays, DVDs, Video Games, Funko Pops, and other media. If you're looking for a new solution for storing your own collection of lovely things, take a look at the links below to purchase these shelves.
BUY these shelves in the US - Wood - amzn.to/3j1sJlt
BUY these shelves in the US - Espresso Brown - amzn.to/32VNtp4
BUY these shelves in the UK - White - amzn.to/3641XFl
BUY these shelves in the UK - Black - amzn.to/3hUycsQ
BUY these shelves in the UK - Espresso Brown - amzn.to/3632kjx
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00:00 Introduction
00:36 Links to buy these shelves online
01:02 Height of shelves
01:50 Sturdiness of shelves
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03:41 Adjustability of shelves
05:10 Depth of each shelf
06:43 Safety of these shelves
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@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching this video :) If you'd like to buy these shelves, the links are here -> BUY these shelves in the US - Wood - amzn.to/3j1sJlt BUY these shelves in the US - Espresso Brown - amzn.to/32VNtp4 BUY these shelves in the UK - White - amzn.to/3641XFl BUY these shelves in the UK - Black - amzn.to/3hUycsQ BUY these shelves in the UK - Espresso Brown - amzn.to/3632kjx

@liquidpaper128 3 жыл бұрын

The US and UK shelves are NOT interchangeable. The linked US shelf has Blu-rays sticking out past the inner shelf.

@timehorse 2 жыл бұрын

The link is for 5’ cases, not 6’4”

@angelaandradeus6290 2 жыл бұрын

One only problem about it like books on display is dust etc will give that old book smell and light getting in will age the DVD. They would be best if they had wooden doors to closed.

@Progger11 Жыл бұрын

The US shelf isn't fitted for blu-ray cases on every shelf. I own one, and it's fugly and non-uniform when I try it.

@philipbahr 3 жыл бұрын

I finally splurged on this shelving unit for my disk collection. Bought the Oskar Atlantic. Thank you Elliot for pointing me in the right direction. It is so great to give the disks come breathing room.

@theStranger666 3 жыл бұрын

My mate bought some cheap shelves and it collapsed. I said that you've only got YOUR-SHELF to blame. 😂

@MultiPsycopat 3 жыл бұрын

Don't give up the day job

@kozmicflush980 2 жыл бұрын

how in the world did this receive 24 thumbs up

@theStranger666 2 жыл бұрын

@@kozmicflush980 I dunno! It was such a fucking awful joke, I was expecting at least that amount thumbs DOWN!

@DarkMasamune87 4 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂 this is fucking great

@glaswegiandoesfilm7395 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Elliot just wanted to say thank you for this video! I have just bought a new house and needed shelves for my blu ray collection! These will be getting ordered very soon! Thank you again! :)

@snakebite69 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Elliot, I have these shelves too, and looked long and hard at various shelves before purchasing these. I use them for cds, dvds and blurays. As you say they are excellent from a sizing perspective and build quality. Wants not to like. Just started watching your channel in the last couple of weeks and i'm very impressed. Peace Andy H

@mike_ely 3 жыл бұрын

Your shelving display is sublime! My eyes are always drawn to it when watching your videos. I’m happy with my criterion closet but the rest of my collection is on 3 mismatched bookshelves. I am so very jealous of your wonderful setup!

@tammcmillan9823 3 жыл бұрын

Bought these shelves using your link. Really happy with them so Thank you for the recommendation.

@ScorpoBeard Жыл бұрын

The shelving unit arrived with supersonic speed and I have just finished assembling it. I’m not a DIY expert and it was a bit fiddly but didn’t take me long. It seems pretty robust and looks good. I got the black one that can hold 528 DVD’s so I will be mixing DVD and Blu-ray’s in. Now for the best part where I get to scoop the stacks of discs up off the floor and curate them on the shelves. Thanks for making the video Elliot.

@bmg5015 3 жыл бұрын

Those are fantastic shelves! I never knew they existed so thanks for the info. Great collection by the way.

@dylanrogers7419 3 жыл бұрын

I also love these shelves! I have 3 of the smaller ones with only 2 columns of sections and they have been great

@amjPeace Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for making this video! It has been a tremendous help. I have been searching for just the right storage solution and this is it!!!!!

@cineXplorers 3 жыл бұрын

Have 3 of these shelves, 2 for Blu-rays and 1 for CDs, and they're definitely recommended. If I could change one thing, it would be to make the pegs flat on one side so they were flush with the shelf. They get in the way with those boxsets that are slightly taller than regular cases. Apart from that, perfect 👌

@tdrabik77 3 жыл бұрын

Wow! You have an amazing collection!! Thanks for sharing this. I'm going to get them for my room :)

@blu-rayswithnathanjones 3 жыл бұрын

Great breakdown of your setup Elliot! If I hadn't built my own shelves, this is absolutely what I'd buy. Especially for someone who has maybe a little too much in their collection 😅 Great stuff my friend.

@carl3035 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely brilliant video, thank you so much, I have been watching your videos for a while now so envious of your shelving. You sir are an absolute legend. I just have to rearrange some picture frames to get the height. 👍👊

@Plaidx2Productions 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Very helpful, especially as I am trying to figure out some storage issues with my movie collection. Thank you so much.

@georgecrossley5199 3 жыл бұрын

Just what i needed gonna get one for my own collection. Thanks!!

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Thanks for watching :)

@arthouseinteriors 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Elliot! These shelves look very nice! I currently have Ikea Billy shelves currently and I agree the overhang is a bit extreme. But I will say for my current living situation it works out well because I can stack blu-rays two deep so that I don't have to buy more shelves until I move!!

@marke89 9 ай бұрын

Definitely agree with you. I just purchased one for my cd/dvd/blue ray collection and as you said they are perfect. I will buy a second one.

@MarioIArguello Жыл бұрын

Great video. 👍 10 years ago, I came across some 5/8" thick, 8" deep, 2ft and 4ft white melanine laminated boards at a local Lowes hardware store. I bought a bunch of these boards to make (4) 24"x48" shelf units which I stacked as 2 stacks floor to ceiling for all our DVDs. Recently, I decided to remodel our family room and redo these shelves into a single 15ft, 2Ft high wall unit direct under a wall that holds my projector screen, finished off with a 15ftx12"x2" thick mantle from left over Pergo laminated floor over 2" high density foam base. The result is outstanding, and my DVDs look flush with a bit of front shelf gap, but similar to your video, except mine looks like a custom cabinet and I have my sound bar right on top of the mantle. USA

@just_A_Hack 3 жыл бұрын

I am 100% going to buy these. Thank you so much!

@ReelClassicFilmReviews 3 жыл бұрын

Grey video mate. Thanks for sharing! I’m currently renovating my cinema room after getting my projector set up, and I’ve had to figure out a whole new shelving system. I’ve ended up choosing to make my own, but I do love your set up 👍🏻👍🏻 take care buddy 💿💿

@djsoulfilter 3 жыл бұрын

I have these same shelves and they are perfect for my collection!

@dyloak6450 2 жыл бұрын

Wow this is the absolute best shelves for blue ray. I am astonished!

@robertmccoy9901 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to come across this. Good to get a recommendation. Thanks for the tips.

@rayhoudtzagers570 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate this, as I had been using the thin Benno/Gnedby units from IKEA, and they don’t make them anymore, so I will be getting this obviously better alternative. Thank you and I’m in!

@myfasmarine 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! You really went in depth and there’s nothing about this video that felt padded. I’m definitely gonna pick these up some day when I move and have more space.

@iskandarthegreat6657 3 жыл бұрын

I’m very happy with my BR/DVD shelves, but yours are my target from now on as they are the best in the KZfaq game. it's like a classic books library showing how cultured you are ;). I just wished they go until the ceiling to be absolutely perfect !

@fp9623 3 жыл бұрын

I custom build my own media shelves. I still think that's the best solution, at least for me, because by doing that there's no compromise involved. When looking for shelves I would always find a couple of things I didn't like or design features that were not ideal for my purpose, so I decided to go the DIY route. I added all the things I wanted to the design and I made the shelves floor-to-ceiling, so there's room for so many movies. There's some woodworking and painting involved, but if you are crafty enough you can get some good results (and save some money, too)

@lawlorie24 3 жыл бұрын

Finally I asked about this many times.

@sfinthecity Ай бұрын

I prefer cabinets that lock: 1) Extreme protection from sunlight, dust 2) Can hide titles for privacy 3) Can lock, if desired, for security. Check it: Atlin Designs 64" H Modern Wood Large Style Deluxe Media Cabinet with 2 Doors & Key Lock

@grahamwright7363 3 жыл бұрын

Great video Elliot, thank you. Shelves now on the shopping list. Need to declutter the attic next! OT, hoping that certain Kubrick film comes out on 4k at some point (if only to please you). You can certainly spend my money, recently upgraded to an Oppo 203 so I can get my Criterion A's.

@DriveupLife22 3 жыл бұрын

Just a note US buyers, the Oskar Atlantic and Lilyvale are different shelves. Lillyvale seems to be better. Oskar atlantic has the blurays stick out over the edge a bit.

@JohnSmith-zl8rz 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly! TOTALLY DIFFERENT

@ianbeach23 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, so thanks for telling me this, I just wish I read it sooner. Already bought it and found that out the hard way. What should I do now? I can’t seem to buy the uk one and I doubt I could return this anyway.

@xxxWolFangxxx 3 жыл бұрын

How far do they stuck out? It won’t bother me too much aesthetically but obviously I can’t have shit falling off

@JohnSmith-zl8rz 3 жыл бұрын

@@xxxWolFangxxx I prefer DEEP shelves, like Ikea Billy's, I don't like have everything on the edge.

@DriveupLife22 3 жыл бұрын

@@xxxWolFangxxx very little. Maybe 10 percent of the bluray is off the shelf

@Wildmutationblu 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Elliot. These have been out of stock on Amazon for while they are back in stock today. I ordered one and will buy another in a couple of months if they are back in stock. Thank you so much for making this fantastic video.

@MrSpencer3123 3 жыл бұрын

Great storage units got two of them in black for my collection 😎👍

@paulanderson4677 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Elliot, I had wondered where you got them from, thanks for letting us know

@jaceholloway1819 3 жыл бұрын

This was not the video I deserved but the one that I desperately needed.

@LennyNero2019 2 жыл бұрын

These are the perfect depth, indeed! I'm looking at precisely the Billy shelves as well, because I can't have those you linked shipped to me. Other than about 10cm of extra depth, it satisfies other requirements, like similarly adjustable height of shelves throughout, and iKea sells extra shelves separately. Plus it can have glass doors, which seems necessary in my environment 'cause of excessive dust. I thought I'd just place some editions, and boxsets, in front of the rows for display.

@thomaswilke6312 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative! I think I will get the one for CDs

@homemediacave 3 жыл бұрын

I actually really like these. For people who collect and dont do wood work these are totally amazing for. I am making my own shelves though that circle my room perfect with built in tv spot as well. And my shelves can be resized lol

@derrickmcleod9549 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Elliot ... I have been looking for a storage solution for awhile ... they are available in Canada too ... I ordered maple which is my favourite finish ... excited to finally have all my CDs/Blu Ray/4K discs in one place :)

@johndavidson8703 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid, Elliot! Thanks for the info...

@rgmsound 3 жыл бұрын

Ahh you answered my question with a full video. Thanks man appreciate that!

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, Craig. I hope all is well with you :)

@rgmsound 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElliotCoen are you on Letterboxd mate?

@geoffliveshere1425 3 жыл бұрын

Currently using Ikea Billy - the extra depth is annoying, but they have one massive plus point for me - timber and glass doors on the front. I live in a Queenslander (timber house, designed to basically leave all the doors and windows open for about 8 months a year), so the doors make managing the dust so much easier. Would love a version of your shelves that could have doors...

@HeroesReforged 3 жыл бұрын

How’d you get the rectangles so snug together? I have gaps above my cases, and it’s kind of annoying. Wish it was more snug.

@jim1174 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I was looking for some shelves.

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much, Jim. I hope this helped.

@biim85 Жыл бұрын

I came across your video and was curious as to what you consider to be the perfect shelves. I was surprised and delighted to find out that we both have the same favorite shelving unit! These are THE BEST for all types of films. I have four of these units with mostly blu-rays and 4k films as well, but they even hold the occasional rare VHS incredibly well also.

@skylor3772 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Just bought the single option because I've just started my collection and the three would be overkill for now, but also because I live in a small apartment in nyc so it should be great.

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad to hear I could help. I hope you're doing well in NYC, my friend!

@darrenblizzard3851 3 жыл бұрын

These are perfect, thanks! Not sure how much shipping to Australia will be but I need these! I have to ask though how do you find them re dust ? They seem quite compact and not a lot of spare space so hoping you don't find yourself attracting too much dust into your collection and the maintenance is minimal? Cheers!

@hollywoodnova 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect. Now all I need is a spare room to put them in...

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

I feel ya. I'm constantly wishing for more room.

@ghostwarrior3878 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Id get one or 2 of these, but i have no room for them

@thefarsidefanthefarsidefan7374 3 жыл бұрын

Elliot, you have an excellent youtube channel. I'm glad I found your channel!

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

@zacknichols2790 3 жыл бұрын

i bought the 2 section wide shelf - thanks Elliot!

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, Zack!

@slvewaksvik6767 3 жыл бұрын

That shelves looks great. One thing i noticed as a norwegian was Edvard Munch movie so cool :)

@YanZ_Edits 2 жыл бұрын

Hey I really like these book shelves, but I have some retro cartridges and DS boxes that may be half the size of a regular shelf. Do you know where I can buy extra loose shelves to perfectly fit these games?

@drunkenp0t 2 жыл бұрын

I agree these shelves are amazing 👍🏽🔥

@atoz6552 3 жыл бұрын

They look great!!

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@miralomasf7x7 Жыл бұрын

I have a mix of Blu Ray discs (shorter case) and DVD discs (taller case). I am keeping my legacy DVDs without plans to replace. I know the shelves can be adjusted to accomodote DVD's. I'm wondering if you have an idea of how many shelves I will lose, if I mix my DVD's and Blu Rays together (which will require planning for taller shelving cubbies)?

@harrisonmetcalf3184 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this In depth review of these shelves. Can you get them in black as well and also what is the exact width and height please?

@leonardolottimarques9737 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Elliot, hope all is well with you. Love your channel + the work you do. I have been wanting to purchase one of these shelves for quite sometime now, but they seem to be out of stock for ages now. I will wait a couple more weeks, and if they don`t resurface, I will have to opt for an alternate brand. In light of this, would there be any other you'd recommend? I am trying to match the very same specifications of the one you suggested, but deep down all I really wanted was the ones from lillyvale. Any other advice you could give us? Thanks! Keep up with the excellent work my friend.

@djneoda1535 2 жыл бұрын

GREAT suggestion Been looking for something for my gaming collection. Peace ✌

@RicardoRodriguez-zr7ir 3 жыл бұрын

Excelente. Muchas gracias por el video. Saludos desde Costa Rica 🇨🇷

@burninator1983 3 жыл бұрын

I have been using a couple of Billy bookcases with extra shelves for years. The extra depth space is annoying, but I do use them for a few other items on the top and bottom shelves which make up for it. These look like a great replacement though for in the future when my current ones fall apart as long as I can get them in Australia for a decent price.

@LFiers Жыл бұрын

They're like $109-135 at the moment in Australia. I know this is 2 years old haha. Just thought I'd mention it.

@Alex-pm6je Жыл бұрын

Hello elliot, I'm looking for some shelves for my movie media and I've seen alot of good ones but my concern is what kind of shelves should I get when it comes to little kids wanting to grab my movies? If there's a certain type of shelves that you recommend that would be great. Thanks

@JesterEric 3 жыл бұрын

Did you use wood glue when assembling ? I noticed that they recommended this on Amazon

@mikekutz5776 3 жыл бұрын

Thank You for this post. This is very helpful for me in trying to figure out what storage system to use. M K

@yanayana5408 Ай бұрын

This is beautiful.

@richardgregory3684 Жыл бұрын

How were they to assemble. They've had "mixed" reviews on Amazon,. though the newer reveiws are much more positive so maybe the QC has now been sorted

@mrsbaylocksvideoemporium9621 3 жыл бұрын

Funniest video title ever! And the thumbnail to go with it. Verging on Alan Partridge!! Loving it!

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

Jurassic Park!!

@mrsbaylocksvideoemporium9621 3 жыл бұрын

@@ElliotCoen Quality!!! Come on, Lynn, I'll drop you off at a cab rank!! This video could only be bettered if it was sponsored by Hamilton's Water Breaks 🤪🤣🤣🤣

@mattserafini984 Жыл бұрын

Did you customize the shelf holes, or was that a standard configuration? I just bought this off Amazon US, but I can only get eight rows of shelves, not ten.

@Celestialrob 3 жыл бұрын

I have the Billy and put pieces of 2x4 behind the discs. This looks far better!

@zig3346 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Elliot, how do you organize your collection? I noticed they are not alphabetical nor numerically organized. From a very curious fan 😊

@VanessaButtino 3 жыл бұрын

Not gonna lie, when I first found your channel, the first thing I noticed about your videos were the shelves lol Does that sound as shallow as I think it does? Edited to add: "Totally random film I just pulled out there" Suuuuuuuuure, Elliot :P Barry Lyndon strikes again!

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

Not shallow at all. My shelves in the background is 95% of why people probably watch my videos. It can't be because I'm saying much of worth, that's for sure 😁

@fcdy0410 3 жыл бұрын

These shelves are actually the best I've ever seen in terms of its sturdiness and looks. Hoping to get one or two of these shelves like the one you have but unfortunately Amazon doesn't ship internationally to the Philippines which I'm from.

@Catrionaannegray 6 ай бұрын

My parents and I are thinking about moving house and I will need to buy a shelf for my dvd I think that I got 439 dvd do you know what dvd storage will fit all my dvd.

@danboy77 3 жыл бұрын

I bought the Billy bookcase and it’s way too much for what I need, and you right about how DVD’s fit in them, wish I would have done my homework before hand.

@bernardocisneros 3 жыл бұрын

I have a ikea billy bookcase and it has served me well. I still have more space to go. But as a collector life I have a separate shelf dedicated to my criterion collection which is almost full! But I’ll deal with it and find a way. Anyways have a good one! -Bernardo Cisneros

@JohnSmith-zl8rz 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I like the "waste space" of the Billy's, I don't like the movies almost in the edge, a little earthwave can send all to the floor!!!

@bernardocisneros 3 жыл бұрын

@@JohnSmith-zl8rz 100 percent agree with you I like my movies to be flush on the back like an actual library book shelves.

@user-qjvqfjv 7 ай бұрын

How did you find all four House movies on Blu-Ray? I've only ever found the first one, and occasionally the second.

@peterjoyfilms 3 жыл бұрын

These aren't currently available, what should I buy instead that's similar?

@lilsouffle 3 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what I needed lmao

@BOBBY1976100 3 жыл бұрын

Those shelves look great. Though you could do with a bit of a clear-out.🤣

@thomaswilke6312 3 жыл бұрын

How come the “totally random” blu-ray that you pulled out was Barry Lyndon?

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

I know, what are the odds eh??

@ajas90 Жыл бұрын

Does anybody know if these will be back in stock on Amazon sometime? :)

@bri1474 3 жыл бұрын

For the US links, you did the Oskar 1080 for the maple and the Oskar 756 for the Espresso, and those aren't the same sizes. Which one is closer to the one you have?

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

Oh sorry! The 1080 one is roughly the size I have!

@THX1178 7 ай бұрын

Late Mizoguchi still in the shrink wrap? Have you cracked it open yet?

@jimthar17 5 ай бұрын

These look really nice. It's exactly what I'm looking for. I hate when shelves are too deep and push the book or bluray or whatever too far back and it looks stupid. These seem to fit the bluray perfectly.

@RemnantsOfBeauty 3 жыл бұрын

These don't seem to be available on Amazon anymore, any ideas?

@hollywoodnova 3 жыл бұрын

Do you get given a specific amount of actual shelves? If you were storing, say, CDs, would you run out of shelves as they are smaller to store? Or if you were storing DVDs, would that mean you could have un-used shelves left over as they require less room?

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

I believe you get 30 shelves. My setup as in this video currently uses 24, so you'll have some spare if you ever wish to change the shelf height.

@ScorpoBeard Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this media storage solution. On your recommendation I’ve just ordered a unit. If it’s rubbish it’s down to you 😊

@Yowzoe Жыл бұрын

How was it? Rubbish or genius?

@ScorpoBeard 11 ай бұрын

@@YowzoeNot rubbish, not quite genius but certainly a very good quality, sturdy and good looking unit. I have a mixture of VHS, DVD and Blu-Ray stored in it and there is no evidence of any splintering or bowing and it’s almost full. Only problem now of course is I have space in it for about 40 more discs/tapes so I will defo have get another one or stop buying films on physical media but that is NOT going to happen!

@blueboxinspace 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the Video! How many Blu-Rays fit in each shelf?

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

You can fit 20 blu-rays in each rectangular section, and there are 30 sections, therefore they fit about 600 blu-rays.

@dravenlee4473 Жыл бұрын

I know this video is old but I'm looking for new options. Can you go from top to bottom and have every row occupied with Blu-rays? One issue I've always had with adjustable shelves is the spacing ends up being uneven where one row ends up being too short to fit everything.

@ElliotCoen Жыл бұрын

Hi. Yes the spacing is completely even for shelf height perfect for a blu ray case. There’s no wasted space when doing it at this height.

@kevinhawkins940 3 жыл бұрын

I've got that rivette box as well

@reviewreview3452 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Elliot, Just a quick question. I noticed you litterally collect all releases by ..as an example..Criterion. Do you just collect them because of the art of you litterally like every film theve released? I only buy the titles i actually like.

@ElliotCoen 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, good question! Yes, of the labels I enjoy and want to support, I will buy anything released by them. The majority of my film discoveries come through Blu-ray collecting, so each new release from Criterion, for example, could be one of my new favourite films. And I just want to financially support these great companies. Taking a gamble on an obscure Criterion disc could lead to more interesting and experimental release from Criterion down the line. I hope that helps!

@paulcarter7445 2 жыл бұрын

I have the same set of shelves only difference is that mine are black - they're excellent.

@misterkidd2679 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone know where to get white blu ray shelves in the States?

@takeshi6by9 Жыл бұрын

whats the diff between these and media tower elite?

@johnnysopals 3 жыл бұрын

the slow pan of the box sets made me weak in the knees.

@ilovefreakygirls2023 11 ай бұрын

Where can I buy shelf for my Blu-ray and dvd

@Hyperspud 3 жыл бұрын

They aren't available in any colour any longer in the UK. I'm devastated!

@AnonYmous-pl2id Жыл бұрын

Can you measure the depth of your shelves? I think the company redesigned the shelf slightly, but kept the same Amazon item.

@kacygellins 2 жыл бұрын

Did the design for these change at all? The ones in the video, the shelf is flush with the front. The one I looked at on Amazon, the shelf is not as deep.