Guy : what's better sciencitist or engineers? Elon: Engineers Every engineering student : smiles(:

engineer invents ,scientist discovers . let's leave it to that :)

Without science you can't have engineers. Without engineers scientists can't conduct experiments. No one group is better then the other. As an engineer I can't create things without a knowledge of science and math. We are equal groups trying better human life as we understand it.

Sheldon Cooper wants to know ur location

Me: Laughs in engineering physics

The notable difference is that "Physics is pure science and Engineering is applied science"..

Scientific discoveries are the fundamentals that makes engineering appliable

My greatest inspiration to go into engineering was my physics teacher. She saw my talent, and she always insisted that Engineering was the driving force and limiting factor behind physics and the progress of human capability. Just consider that: my physics teacher, with a PHD and a lifelong love of her subject, was adamant that engineering was of greater importance and potential. She taught me to see the wonder of her subject, but to find a home in my own.

I suppose the engineers design the hardware for scientists to make discoveries so that those discoveries can than be returned to the engineer and aiding in new creations, which can be given to scientists to make further discoveries.. so on and so forth. Its a nice Yin and Yang cycle, where neither are better just different.

"Sometimes people fear starting a company too much. Really, what’s the worst that could go wrong? You’re not gonna starve to death, you’re not gonna die of exposure-what’s the worst that could go wrong?" --Elon Mosque 2012

Isn't a engineer just a person who takes a scientist's work, and puts it into practical production?

Albert Einstein wants to know your location as a ghost.

Howard wolowitz: "yeah thats right" Sheldon,leonard: "We're not friends anymore"

It's the Scientists whose theories are used in Engineering to make an Engineer.

Scientists plant a seed of opportunities in the form of concepts, methods and possibilities. Engineers take that science and make something truly marvelous in a field no one thought could be done there, and in a way unimaginable to the ordinary. And someone who is both a scientist and an engineer, is a monster.

I have to disagree. Scientists do the fundamental research that engineers then later apply. The driving factor is the scientist's curiosity.

Engineering is the practical application of physics. One hand washes the other.

I am a Japanese student of a physics college.I was VERY surprised to hear the name of Faraday and Maxwell from elon musk's speaking.But, the speed of his speaking is so fast that it is difficult to understand what he say everytime.For native speakers, is it easy?

Really great questions, good interview

Physics degree is a lot harder then any Engineering degree IMO. That's the truth weather you like it or not... But Engineering is more practical and deals with the real world applications. Remember Physics gave us Quantum Mechanics which help give us almost all the technologies we use today.

Engineering is a particular application of science. You are still using scientific methods in any engineering process, but engineering has practical constraints (resources needed/available to complete the project). Science is not just a method, but also a body of knowledge that is continuously expanding. I'd argue that advances in science are what can make projects that are infeasible today trivial in the future.

Both are needed for each other :)

An engineer is a scientist. Or to put it more accurately, an engineer is a type of scientist.

There are experimental and theoretical physics. Elon Musk is where he is now, because a physic degree = being able to solve more or less every kind of problem

Surprisingly simplistic answer. To ask who is better a scientist vs an engineer is like asking who is better, a lawyer or a doctor. While there’s a lot of similarities or even crossovers between science and Engineering, the two are attempting to solve different problems.

I think a lot of the times these terms (not the ppl in these majors) are one and the same. The main difference is what drives the individual. There are scientists who are driven by curiosity, they build experiments. And then invent/build machines to test that experiment. And then there are engineers who want to make a product that can be sold/used by the public. But to invent something, they first have to understand the science behind how something works (hence why engineering research exists, applying scientific method) and then they can invent or build something.

The first question I got asked when I entered the engineering college at uni was "are engineers scientists?" and honestly no one answered and I wasn't sure. The truth is we both use the scientific method, which makes us scientists. It's what we're trying to figure out that makes us different. Engineers focus on the "real" world problems and finding solutions while pure scientists focus on increasing the toolsets and knowledge that can be used. If Madam Curie only discovered the radiocative elements but no one figured out how to build machines to concentrate them from raw ore and built reactors (and bombs, radiology medical equipment, ect.) what purpose would they have served mankind other than raw knowledge? But, oddly enough, we discovered more radioactive nuclides due to nuclear reactors that couldn't have been easily created in a pure lab setting. A prime example is that I'm a chemical engineer. The chemicals most chemical plants make by chemists standards are often extremely simple chemically. But, to make them in useful and profitable and pure enough amounts are actually extremely hard. But as chemists can determine new chemical makeups we can change and improve our processes to make their discoveries in quantities they'd never be able to in a lab.

Both are complementary to each other

Engineers make money. Scientists don't

From meeting Physics majors it seems a Physics student with a BA at a liberal arts college will claim that he is smarter than a Engineering major at MIT or Stanford.

At the base of engineering, there are science and mathematics. In the early days of the history of modern science, scientists used to build their own instruments. Engineering wasn't there as a professional trade. Engineering evolved as a professional trade to meet the demand of society to bring scientific discoveries and inventions to the benefit of the masses. Science is an art that generates prototypical solutions to existing problems. Engineering is the trade of manufacturing those solutions on an industrial scale. Honestly, there is no comparison between these two.

I think Elon is wrong about engineers driving the advancements in science. Whats happened is that physicists have gotten so far ahead they are waiting for the engineers to catch up. By catch up I mean that it is now up to the engineers to create the machines to actually test the physicist's theories. Both fields have their role to play and the physicists have there end done. Now it's up to the engineers.

Bro its so amazing to see where he is now

Why was he cracking up so much when he corrected the interviewer who said Elon was trained as an engineer? I like his laugh :)

Elon said it right. Various types of sub-atomic particles & energies have been discovered, but there isn't much engineering solutions to harness that. Similarly, various chemical & biological molecules have been discovered that can change the course of humanity, but they are hard to engineer or produce them in an efficient manner. THE CONCLUSION IS: Scientists create potential through discoveries. While, Engineers put that idea into motion.

engineering is applied science

but he studied physics lol

I think both engineers and scientists are needed to the advancement of our knowledge and experience, because scientists have the time to think critically about the principles and descriptions of reality which are used creatively by engineers to design products that would transform our experience in a better way ( from learning to relaxing ) , and I think the advantages that engineers have are to try new things which may or may not work out which may helps us discover a refreshing approach to our scientific principles.

Why is there such dispute between engineers and hard scientists? They're both extremely important, just have different roles. Let's just agree they're both vital, and divert our hatred at the arts (especially the pseudo sciences and liberal arts)?

back in the day , the divisions where vague people did a lot of work on many topics, its just times have changed and we need people with fine tuned skills! But he is right about the development in terms of technology, engineers have taken science to new heights and people can truly enjoy science today because of all these new creations !

the title is poorly worded, seen as this video is comparing an engineer vs a physicist, not scientists. i know a physicist is a scientist, but so is a chemist.

Physics majors usually have to do a more advance science and math courses, which not anyone can do, it requires certain amount of intellect. Engineering math and science courses usually is less intense, but has a lot more hands on work, which everyone can do if he/she put in the effort. (At least this is what happen in my university). However job-wise engineering is far better than physics

Saadi Carnot, the pioneer of Thermodynamics (a huge branch of science), was a mechanical engineer.

I would say engineers are more important because science is quite useless unless you can apply it to something useful. The whole reason why companies will even hire scientists nowadays to do research, is is to take that science, engineer something out of it and make MONEY.

If you love chemistry : Scientist Else Physics : Engineer

very good interview

SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING IS A FRIEND OF KNOWLEDGE

isn't physics to mathematics what engineering is to physics?

both are amazing (I'm a structural engineer myself).

The irony of the video tho Elon him self is a physicist and says that engineering is best and it make us engineering students way more happy

You know, I respect SCIENCE and Technology . But also I give a piece of really and very respect in Engineering and innovation

...along with the LHC, the Hubble and upcoming James Webb Telescopes are examples of how engineering drives science.

I’m from the U.K. and in year 9 I’m struggling with my options and what to take I’m going to take history and buissness but can’t decide between design technology and engineering and is computer science worth it ?!

The motives are different. I believe a good engineer and scientist share a lot in common. The difference lies in what leads an engineer to scientific research and what leads a scientist to engineering application. An engineer's application of knowledge often leads to the need for scientific research [trying to improve a process or technology]. A scientist's research often requires test to prove out the research, some times new/novel, this will require engineering skills in order to generate a test plan and test set to conduct the test. Personally as an engineering, I feel I glide in between what you would call a scientist or engineer and I would never disparage either discipline.

I’m an engineer, but scientists are very important as well.

Thank you so much god blessing

Guys, this man was on meme review!!!

0:33 Look how he nods after he mentions Galileo. It's like a queue to the listener to agree. There's something going on there

easy option whole video done in 30 seconds friend: wait...

No one can be judged. Elon said Maxwell are u serious? He was purely mathematical physicist and u r saying him engineer that's surprising. I think he is appreciating more to engineers bcoz they work in his company otherwise there is no obvious reason for comparison.

people study physics because of passion , hobby or curiosity to find the mysteries of the universe not because of some mediocare job .its the meaning of finding out how the nature works not obsessed with money . physicist invent diode , mosfet , transistor , laser etc etc by a applying the laws of physics . its sole purpose is to find the truth not money ..here are some thought ::::about engineering vs physicist Engineers have contributed immensely to d society .everything from jet engine , rocket , satellite , software application , supercars ,trains, motor microprocessor, computer , supercomputer ,petrochemicals ,smartphones and many more and have transformed the economy n society and created many jobs , opened many big big IT companies but however 1. the nuclear fusion reactors like JET , EAST ,ITER and many more are located in physics department or are associated with plasma physicist or physics institutes ? 2. engineer build supercomputer or basically classical computer which are slow or can be outperformed by QUANTUM COMPUTER which are build by EXPERIMENTAL PHYSICIST and why 95% of quantum computer research are done in physics department laboratory like in JCI ,IQC ,CQC,YALE quantum physics department CALTECH physics dept . NUS quantum photonics department . IBM quantum computation. University of Bristol quantum computation dept and many more.some electrical engineers and computer scientist are following the trend 3. the world largest experiment are done in particle physics in LHC (27 km long )which search for higgs boson or LIGO experiment where engineers are just technicians and physicst designed and conduct the experiment and lastly electrical engineering was introduced under physics department in MIT n and many founders were physicist .

As an experienced renewable energy engineer, science and scientific discovery has helped engineering to create technology and visa versa. However, engineering will always solve the 'can we do it? problem...prototype, prototype, prototype...test. Then test again...solution

You take that back Sheldon

Engineering is to Physics as Physics is to math, and that's being generous. Also: Almost all words can be encoded in mathematical formalism. You could say that life is then really just shoddy theoretical physics as we attempt to solve excruciatingly complex systems.

The word "science" is Latin for knowledge so there's your answer there. Science is the art of knowledge. Science is not just used by engineers, it is used by doctors, pharamists, nutritionists, psychologists, politicians ect.... It's just our was as humans of understanding the world. Engineering uses the understanding of the science (knowledge) to create product.

As a physics and computer science major, I’m fine either way.

“ Sitting around for a bloody collider” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂

I'd say both , both feed off of each other ,(they have this back and forth , pull push relationship, at this point i'd even say without scientists , there wouldn't be engineering and without engineering there wouldn't be science as we know it today) , an advancement in either one of these fields improves the other.

physics is a science and engineering is an approach to apply it they're complement to each other

this is the motivation i need every single day.

Do computer scientists fall in the middle? I feel like we do a little of both.

that also is an orthodox point of view as you are not considering the possibility of discovery with application or the need to discover during application, also the possibility that an engineer will learn physics exponentially beyond what is necessary as engineers are by curious to find out how things work not just from a device point of point but as from physics, but a from a theoretical point your are right

Okay but u all know the ultimate counter argument from physicist to engineer: WE ARE DOING HARD MATH, BITCH! (Just messing around, don't take it too serious:) I am a physicist and my brother is an engineer. It really does seem that physicist do a bit of harder stuff at university but engineering is such a visionary major)

Oh, how far we've fallen haven't we, Elon?

How is working 'making callings'. Is difference of model cellphone? Or its sattelite

Renaissance development of technical knowledge that drive 20th-century physics advancement.

What does Todd say at 0:21 ? In phisis ?

I like both Scientists and ENGINEERS

the gesture at 0:13 he does is like "yes that is my name and yes you may speak to me"

his main evidence being the atomic colliders is kinda stupid when you think about how the people who engineered it arent just everyday engineers, but some of the best physicists in the field to understand how to build it. its a big difference between the everyday engineer and the people who make those

Applied physics may just the best way foreward

I m still confused what should I do engineering or comology and astrophysics 😓😓😖

Both are the best.

what should I be in future engineer or sincerest

Is it because he met harword wolowitz at the charity ? Sheldom would be angry af

Which is better to create water, oxygen or hydrogen? the two must be complemented, neither is better than the other. As an engineer, I cannot do what I do without what the scientists have left us.

I work in engineering, I can't hold a candle to some of these scientists and theoreticians.

Engineers aren't the only ones responsible for designing better colliders and accelerators. Accelerator Physicists play a big role, and given that most particles reach relativistic speeds and are controlled using electric and magnetic fields, understanding of Physics become very important. One of the latest advancements in particle accelerators come from the use of plasma, which is studied mostly by physicists (and some electrical engineers).

Plastics Engineers are considered to be the athletes and the eye candy of the engineering profession.

good points but i think he was talking about the development of products not discovering quantum mechanics. and i agree but i guess I'm the only one that feels engineers should expand there grasp on physics which i intend to do and yes I'm going to school for engineering and i was thinking about Tesla and his work with theoretical physics

I think his point was more that when engineers are carrying out their projects they use physics/science to make their systems work. So what Elon was saying was true. Yes engineering wouldn’t of happened because of science but engineering helps speed up the discovery of how different machines work as people much prefer to learn things practically rather than doing theory the whole time as doing practical things to prove the theories is much more effective than trying to prove it on paper.

Try to figure out for yourself what job would give YOU the most job satisfication and how likely it is that you will get that particular job when you have the necessary degree.

The forgot mathematicians...the way I would reconcile this age-old debate is, a scientist studies the natural phenomena, a mathematician develops the language of nature with which to "speak", and the clever engineer finds practical and real-world applications for such natural phenomena using the mathematical language to change the lives of countless people!

engineer are practical scientist point to the line, its a mutual enrichment situation science power engineering , engineering allow science to move step further and the cycle goes on and on

My opinion as an Engineer, both the physicist/scientist and engineers play an important role in the world. Engineers apply the knowledge and physics to create new technologies and to solve problems. Without engineers we wouldn't have our smart phones or machines to dig out hug amount earth to create tunnels.

The fact is that Scientists > Engineers

This question is like an entanglement they are both the same with different spectrums. . An engineer is a scientist albeit a practical scientist with less theory whilst the other is a theoretical scientist with less practical . It's stupid trying to categorize which is greater . They are the same but in differing spectrums.

Everyone ignoring Elon mentioning "The Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy"

Titanic CEO was great engineer

Mathematics is including in both sunject