Elon Reveals Starship Version 3; We Have Questions!

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2 ай бұрын

The latest revelations from Elon Musk's internal SpaceX presentation, covering Starship Versions 2 and 3, including enhanced performance figures and design evolutions. Includes the upcoming booster catch simulations planned for Flight 4 and potential actual catches in Flight 5.
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@tmcb_
@tmcb_ 2 ай бұрын
"What's for lunch?" LOL
@clayel1
@clayel1 2 ай бұрын
asking the real questions here
@Vytirix_RBX
@Vytirix_RBX 2 ай бұрын
Daily dose of FTS and methalox soda, anyone?
@sapiotone
@sapiotone 2 ай бұрын
Bacon?
@thatyoudliketoknow1628
@thatyoudliketoknow1628 2 ай бұрын
Protein drinks for maximum godlike physique
@michaeldeierhoi4096
@michaeldeierhoi4096 2 ай бұрын
Your presentation was interesting however it also reflects Elon's tendency to jump way ahead of reality at the present. When it came to the questions at the end I thought 'we'll see it when we see it'.
@Rogue_Leader
@Rogue_Leader Ай бұрын
We won’t see it. Musk is a hype man who’s fooling his investors.
@ANTIStraussian
@ANTIStraussian Ай бұрын
None of the Mars city stuff is close to reality. Majority of the presentation was all lies and a copy of his last 2 speeches.
@Imagine_Beyond
@Imagine_Beyond 2 ай бұрын
20:53 What’s for lunch? That’s the most important question out of all :)
@MidnightCustoms111
@MidnightCustoms111 2 ай бұрын
Tacos
@Vytirix_RBX
@Vytirix_RBX 2 ай бұрын
Bacon bacon bacon!!
@peterford5408
@peterford5408 2 ай бұрын
Whoever put that line in has plausible deniability. It was just a typo! Q: What's for LAUNCH? A: Definitely not TEA-TEB.
@TheBonsaiZone
@TheBonsaiZone 2 ай бұрын
Version 5 will be so tall, Starship will be in orbit without even firing the booster.
@genelomas332
@genelomas332 2 ай бұрын
Space elevator!? 😉
@MickRonald
@MickRonald 2 ай бұрын
Lots of questions raised. Looking forward to future videos updating us with the answers as they become available. Thank you NSF.
@jwoak0913
@jwoak0913 2 ай бұрын
Good job Adrian and thx for the update.
@kamikazeuk2434
@kamikazeuk2434 2 ай бұрын
Awesome.... Thanks Team NSF for the content
@muleskinnerfilms6719
@muleskinnerfilms6719 2 ай бұрын
Well done guys!
@TheScientificPotato
@TheScientificPotato 2 ай бұрын
Great video answered a lot of questions I had. Thank you NSF!
@oldmanstumpie1061
@oldmanstumpie1061 2 ай бұрын
Fascinating. Not sure how I felt like that 20 minute video only went for 5 minutes. So much good stuff in there. Live long and prosper NSF.
@JGS123WRPTP
@JGS123WRPTP 2 ай бұрын
Brilliant detail!
@RyanSmith-dy7fk
@RyanSmith-dy7fk 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the great breakdown, Adrian.
@willneal-boyd7161
@willneal-boyd7161 2 ай бұрын
Amazing video! Would also love to see a video on the other parts of the presentation like Moon Base Alpha, different industries coming together for Mars development, etc. But love this technical side of Starship!
@MrKellymcilrath
@MrKellymcilrath 2 ай бұрын
Great video NSF, & Adrian, Thank you, You answered many questions, but left many more to be answered!
@thomvinson
@thomvinson 2 ай бұрын
Nicely done!
@davidelang
@davidelang 2 ай бұрын
more pressure in the chamber can be due to more pressure in the pumps, or due to less pressure loss between the pumps and the chamber. simplifying the plumbing is one good way to reduce the pressure loss between the pumps and the chamber.
@daveevans2527
@daveevans2527 2 ай бұрын
Good point. NASA did the that with the Shuttle's engine.
@richardknapp570
@richardknapp570 2 ай бұрын
Excited...and can't wait to see them start testing V2s!
@dredlock3000
@dredlock3000 2 ай бұрын
Cheers NSF!!!
@danswan1047
@danswan1047 2 ай бұрын
What an outstanding overview of this prototype vehicle. You folks are amazing. Great job.
@pewterhacker
@pewterhacker 2 ай бұрын
@20:25 "A lot of this is very notional". That's a very nice way of putting it.
@joansparky4439
@joansparky4439 2 ай бұрын
nice work, thanks
@corrinastanley125
@corrinastanley125 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Adrian and NSF team, great update and explanations. I think they might be babying the engines to ensure they complete the mission. They can learn how much more they can push once they inspect the returned engines.
@cyteen02
@cyteen02 2 ай бұрын
Love the level of detail you guys go into in this vid - thanks NSF
@MichaelSmith-kn4cl
@MichaelSmith-kn4cl 2 ай бұрын
Excellent assessment of the numbers, thank you!
@user-jp8wb8th2r
@user-jp8wb8th2r 2 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you for the commentary.
@davidbritton-ohl1672
@davidbritton-ohl1672 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@Spacenoodlesisgreat
@Spacenoodlesisgreat 2 ай бұрын
Oh cool member’s only!
@iamaduckquack
@iamaduckquack 2 ай бұрын
For a few hours.
@bobthegreat297
@bobthegreat297 2 ай бұрын
thanks nsf!
@59seank
@59seank 2 ай бұрын
Great job Adrian!
@zachreyhelmberger894
@zachreyhelmberger894 Ай бұрын
Fantastic presentation!! Well done!
@ThexBorg
@ThexBorg 2 ай бұрын
Such a tall Ship landing vertically on the Moon and Mars, seems odd now?
@corycrandell2682
@corycrandell2682 2 ай бұрын
What an exciting time! I remember watching hopper doing its thing and thinking how cool it would be when they actually build a starship. And here we are.
@larryscarr3897
@larryscarr3897 Ай бұрын
Musk is a con its time to stop the idiot from killing more people.
@SebastianWellsTL
@SebastianWellsTL 2 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@Ellie-pc4rc
@Ellie-pc4rc Ай бұрын
Congrats on 1million subscribers !
@sadequrrahman1910
@sadequrrahman1910 2 ай бұрын
Congratulations
@michaelkeane6518
@michaelkeane6518 2 ай бұрын
WOW Lot of information!
@chrismoule7242
@chrismoule7242 2 ай бұрын
This is excellent stuff - thank you. Several questions that await answers - brilliant. Looking forward to seeing & hearing about them!
@photogeNK
@photogeNK 2 ай бұрын
That long Starship just won't stop haunting my dreams man..
@thatyoudliketoknow1628
@thatyoudliketoknow1628 2 ай бұрын
Lucky u
@trystanbarnett2477
@trystanbarnett2477 2 ай бұрын
Real im traumatised
@kennethc2466
@kennethc2466 Ай бұрын
Suction of the Elon member, will be a nightmare of normal humans. SIMPs, on the other hand, will revel in the 'long starship dreams', as they clean their sheets of Elon ecto 'plasum'.
@dmrr7739
@dmrr7739 Ай бұрын
I think the long design is meant to chase some marginal improvement in capability, as the spacecraft are currently underperforming.
@trystanbarnett2477
@trystanbarnett2477 Ай бұрын
@@dmrr7739 oh yes absolutely agree it’s definitely a performance optimisation i just dont like how it looks haha
@TheWadetube
@TheWadetube Ай бұрын
good job
@iandennis1
@iandennis1 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this excellent update!
@Tiki71
@Tiki71 2 ай бұрын
I hope you guys keep a separate tracking camera on the booster for this next flight.
@cratecruncher4974
@cratecruncher4974 Ай бұрын
Nice deep dive on that Elon presentation. That new hot staging configuration reminds me of '60s Soviet design.
@KestutisJanuskevicius
@KestutisJanuskevicius 2 ай бұрын
very good recap
@lesumsi
@lesumsi 2 ай бұрын
I would expect a lot of the major changes to come with the next iteration of Mechazilla.
@notsomadscientist9602
@notsomadscientist9602 2 ай бұрын
Mind blown!
@laurenmp7486
@laurenmp7486 Ай бұрын
A Saturn V had half the thrust of a Starship and could put over 100 tons into space. So the fact Elon is saying it could only do 40 to 50 tons means there's something really not right.
@Awaken2067833758
@Awaken2067833758 Ай бұрын
If Musk is a conman everything makes sense
@kennethferland5579
@kennethferland5579 Ай бұрын
Yep, this is a huge glaring warning that this development effort is on the rocks. Trying to stretch your rocke and pull forward thrust incresses which should be the impovements of several years of refinement just to get to the original performance mark is a sign of extreme desperation.
@laurenmp7486
@laurenmp7486 Ай бұрын
@@kennethferland5579 also when Falcon Heavy, with a third of the thrust of Starship can put 40 to 50 tons into low earth orbit, the idea that at present Starship can't do any better, like something has to really be up.
@f1o18iwi9
@f1o18iwi9 Ай бұрын
he´s sanke oil salesman
@Awaken2067833758
@Awaken2067833758 Ай бұрын
@@laurenmp7486 by how the first and the latest lauch went, I think starship can barely put itself in leo with no cargo
@IiIytIi
@IiIytIi 2 ай бұрын
Great video NSF! Exciting times ahead!
@miamisasquatch
@miamisasquatch 2 ай бұрын
Keep smoking that hopium
@IiIytIi
@IiIytIi Ай бұрын
​@@miamisasquatch I would take this reply seriously since it's coming from a SmarterEveryDay clone
@proesterchen
@proesterchen 2 ай бұрын
Of course, it's Adrian talking about the Long Stick 3.
@mattfarrar5472
@mattfarrar5472 2 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this! To be honest though I'd completely forget about V3 it will change a heap by the time they get to it!
@TheMarcusGomez
@TheMarcusGomez 2 ай бұрын
Going to need bigger Mega bays ....Giga bays!😮
@rchilton
@rchilton 2 ай бұрын
Oooooh I'm all special!
@douglaspeale9727
@douglaspeale9727 2 ай бұрын
In the ring section factory clip (14:18), that fourth ring on the far right seems to have a dome on top like the top of booster 2 or booster 3 in the comparison picture (9:25)
@daviddeflyer8671
@daviddeflyer8671 2 ай бұрын
Regarding thrust differences between advertised and stated (for IFT3), I'd suspect they are using older engines since the booster and ship were made quite a while ago.
@terryp.luvsjenifer.winklem1314
@terryp.luvsjenifer.winklem1314 2 ай бұрын
So true
@clytle374
@clytle374 2 ай бұрын
Note that the flight 3 thrust numbers were at liftoff and initial. I assume without payload you throttle down to keep the velocities the same as if you had a payload.
@Naultarous
@Naultarous 2 ай бұрын
More questions than answers .. marketing 102. Always leave them wanting more.
@iamaduckquack
@iamaduckquack 2 ай бұрын
Yep, thats how I treat my Mrs.
@rtqii
@rtqii 2 ай бұрын
After all, it is just marketing. Blowing up rockets is not really rocket science.
@SVanDykTX
@SVanDykTX 2 ай бұрын
Great video. I hope we get some of these answers soon. It would be amazing if Elon would do a subscriber space and address some of these questions with us.
@spacemanmat
@spacemanmat 2 ай бұрын
The hotstage changes are all about reclaiming the space lost when they retrofitted the original hotstage. Pretty sure what they have done is to bring the tank dome together with the hostage diverter. As a result the grid fin actuators need to be moved down so are recessed into the tank.
@timw6596
@timw6596 2 ай бұрын
Maybe the reason that the OLM and tower is slowed is that they are designing it for version 3 super tall Starships !
@aq_ua
@aq_ua 2 ай бұрын
Removing the heat shield on super heavy is wild
@MrBlackhiller
@MrBlackhiller 2 ай бұрын
I think they will build the second OLIT for the new v2+3 Booster specs. So they can go on with testing v1 boosters und v2 ships. When OLIT 2 is functional they will change to booster v2 and make OLIT 1 changes. That would privide constand testing.
@Paulobrrs
@Paulobrrs 2 ай бұрын
Maybe we will see a new version of the booster after the new stage zero.
@officialwildcardadventures
@officialwildcardadventures Ай бұрын
Will there be a deluge system for the catch? In order to preserve the OLM, or is it unnecessary? Great video @nasaspaceflight
@BenjySparky
@BenjySparky 2 ай бұрын
NSF and Adrian, y'all rock! Peace 🤘
@matthewkaiser7803
@matthewkaiser7803 2 ай бұрын
20:55 Bacon is the answer
@Midcon77
@Midcon77 2 ай бұрын
A safe and valid answer. Bacon always is an answer for any question that can conceivably be asked. Well played. :)
@djw7141
@djw7141 2 ай бұрын
42
@tbjtbj7930
@tbjtbj7930 2 ай бұрын
Bacon, Discovery, and more cowbell.
@Midcon77
@Midcon77 2 ай бұрын
@@tbjtbj7930 Also a satisfactory answer.
@Eddy525_violin
@Eddy525_violin 2 ай бұрын
Im a simple guy. I see a NSF Starship video, I click. Wow so original I know right
@Bluswede
@Bluswede 2 ай бұрын
Simple is good...less to go sideways! Kinda' puts Mama's, Simple is as simple does." statement in a whole new light, dunnit?
@RussW_Comments
@RussW_Comments 2 ай бұрын
Seems more efficient to have an OLM dedicated to landing (no plumbing for launching) ... still think a mobile transporter for catching is better (the "legs" would be on the transporter not the booster/starship). This approach would increase the ability of the "ground" to adjust its location ...
@ReinReads
@ReinReads 2 ай бұрын
What is the maximum height of a booster that can be built in the megabays ? Could they tear down high bay for an extra tall megabay for taller boosters? Leaving the existing megabays for taller starships at higher production volumes?
@jasonmcgee7457
@jasonmcgee7457 2 ай бұрын
6:33 I noticed on the X stream for the launch attempt that at the time of lift off, the boosters fuel tank was not completely full. Check it out yourselves. It does line with these numbers. I still don't know why they did it though.
@Spherical_Cow
@Spherical_Cow 2 ай бұрын
They had no payload mass on the Ship, and they didn't want to repeat the excess propellant dumping exercise that doomed the second flight. So, I believe both Ship and Booster were loaded to only ~85% of full capacity (as can be observed also on the SpaceX 'telemetry' graphics around 10 min prior to launch.)
@arnoldsmith5754
@arnoldsmith5754 2 ай бұрын
i will just watch as usual
@thethirdeve5089
@thethirdeve5089 2 ай бұрын
2 videos one day? epic
@The_Devil_Riser
@The_Devil_Riser 2 ай бұрын
The booster will cook the landing zone if it’s anything like the render
@ChrisUK27
@ChrisUK27 Ай бұрын
So the V1 of New Glenn will take a similar payload mass to LEO as Starship V1?
@genelomas332
@genelomas332 2 ай бұрын
With IFT4 planning a soft water landing of the booster some 25ks down range, will NSF be putting a starlink-enabled tracking camera on a barge 15ks offshore, and just north of the exclusion zone? Seems like a premo opportunity for a one-of-a-kind bit of footage.
@johnhanson6039
@johnhanson6039 2 ай бұрын
I think you already went too deep with those renders, none of this should be expected to be exact, they most likely dont know themselves
@Av8or7
@Av8or7 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully 4 on May the Fourth be with you.
@not2busy
@not2busy 2 ай бұрын
Those positioning thrusters may have to fight hard against a good stiff sea-breeze, unless captures will only be attempted in ideal conditions.
@markhuebner7580
@markhuebner7580 2 ай бұрын
Whoohoo! "...Changes many...", I want to see thrust augmentation rings, Starship & booster, turning all those long flametails into propulsion!
@pipersall6761
@pipersall6761 2 ай бұрын
Its just amazing to me how the stack could take the pressure of all those raptors pushing upward with the mass of Starship and 100 tons of payload pressing down at the same time. Wow.
@philipaubin4679
@philipaubin4679 Ай бұрын
It hasn't.
@fredpryde8555
@fredpryde8555 2 ай бұрын
thank you for keeping us informed the future is coming fast
@james-reid
@james-reid 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Team NSF! I'm wondering... being conscious that Starship 3 is significantly taller than 1 and 2, is there anything to indicate that the launch towers are being built to accommodate this (ie taller from the beginning / could be stretched in the future (would particularly mean that the lower parts of the towers would need to be designed to take more weight than what they would initially need to carry) Thanks!
@imconsequetau5275
@imconsequetau5275 2 ай бұрын
It might be that the chopsticks must be made shorter to assure they handle greater mass (at the shorter tips), and the ship QD definately must be raised. There is reason to believe that the remainder of the OLM and Mechazilla are adequate. The lifting hardpoints can be kept at the current heights/altitude of the stacked pair.
@MarcosRodrigues-zg6nz
@MarcosRodrigues-zg6nz 2 ай бұрын
nice
@JohnSmith-yp2nt
@JohnSmith-yp2nt 2 ай бұрын
Raptor is fuckin sick. That's all i got to say.
@AdamJ03
@AdamJ03 2 ай бұрын
But seriously, what's for lunch!? ❤
@AdrieKooijman
@AdrieKooijman Ай бұрын
By now most people have discovered that if Elon says 'next year' he actually means 'in my dreams'. And just like with normal human beings dreams only very occasionally come true. 😊
@ThinkingNow
@ThinkingNow Ай бұрын
I had never fully understood imaginary numbers until I heard Elon make a prediction.
@LLachs283
@LLachs283 Ай бұрын
but dont you understand? he works 80 hours a week and sleeps on the factories floor! XD
@FlorianXXV
@FlorianXXV Ай бұрын
@@LLachs283 *his workers. no I mean he totally does, he knows more than them too. A true elon certified genius he is.
@LLachs283
@LLachs283 Ай бұрын
@FlorianXXV absolutely. A true genious, working so hard selling unfinished products
@jurisauzins9266
@jurisauzins9266 2 ай бұрын
Did You notice the differences also for gridfins? and how would they integrate in the LOX tanks, instead of being on top of them.. ?
@thomasbedford1258
@thomasbedford1258 2 ай бұрын
there going to have to increase the size of the launch tower for upgrade version 3 possibly 2 as well as how would they get astronauts in there
@TheGalacticIndian
@TheGalacticIndian 2 ай бұрын
Honestly - how stage zero looked after OFT-1 is peanuts compared to OFT-5 aftermath with supersonic booster smashing into the tower or one of the high bays👀
@hamzahkhan8952
@hamzahkhan8952 2 ай бұрын
im pretty sure the booster reaches subsonic speeds before the landing burn starts. the booster would be aiming for outside the launch site when its manuvering with its grid fins (incase engines fails or it loses control) so it would prob not hit anything important. its possible that it could crash into the pad after the landing burn starts. but if it did, it would be at considerably lower speeds than that of it during free fall. also, if the booster ever diverted from its intented path towards the launch or build site, im sure AFTS would destroy the booster before impact.
@shaung949
@shaung949 2 ай бұрын
That would be why it comes in at such an angle to the tower, it makes the initial decent over water. Only if things are going well would it turn to land on the tower.
@mypinkbunny
@mypinkbunny 2 ай бұрын
lunch must be fun a starbase
@nightsky1979
@nightsky1979 2 ай бұрын
For me the big question is why SpaceX focus on the version with pez doors only. It seems to be death end, as they can apply that only for deploy starlinks and nothing else, but there was already a lot of efforts given to stanghten structure around pez doors, try pez doors performance etc. If that version take so much effort how long it take to prepare "fuel tank" , different / bigger satellite deploy version or cargo for ISS and of course HLS versions. In my opinion they should focus on more universal version, what do you think?
@MrBuyerman
@MrBuyerman Ай бұрын
They are focused on Starlink because there is no interest in Starship as a payload launch vehicle by anyone other than Starlink yet. There is still much debate as to whether this ship can get anything to orbit, let alone a commercial 100 tonne payload, so designing payload mechanisms seems premature. In addition, NASA is paying for human rated to support Artemis. Do you see anything like life support apparatus yet? This is just another Elon con.
@_MaxHeadroom_
@_MaxHeadroom_ 2 ай бұрын
On the infographic detailing the future Starships v2 and v3 look skinnier than the current gen. I wonder if that was intentional or not?
@ThexBorg
@ThexBorg 2 ай бұрын
That's a bloody tall rocket!
@alexlabs4858
@alexlabs4858 2 ай бұрын
I wonder if the current pad setup could even handle the power of a starship V3 launch
@stirlingfromla
@stirlingfromla 2 ай бұрын
Version FREE? Wow!
@JBark82
@JBark82 2 ай бұрын
What a great breakdown of the announcement. NSF Team is top-notch and Chris B should be very proud.
@johntheux9238
@johntheux9238 2 ай бұрын
Probably a raptor 3-boost with a bigger combustion chamber and less specific impulse. 20x 330 tons and 13x 280 tons is around 10'000 tons.
@Duckariffic
@Duckariffic 2 ай бұрын
3 booster grid fins!!!!
@potloodthedutch
@potloodthedutch 2 ай бұрын
Please tell me im not the only one hearing Starship version "Free" :)
@maurice_walker
@maurice_walker 2 ай бұрын
th is hard to pronounce for many native German speakers since such a sound doesn't exist in German. Similar to many native English speakers struggling with pronouncing the German ch.
@ViperPilot16
@ViperPilot16 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for buying Winrar
@Merku808
@Merku808 2 ай бұрын
13:50 Hot staging like on a Soyuz rockets
@carrie4696
@carrie4696 2 ай бұрын
Congrats on 1M fam (I know you’re not making a thing of it)
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