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I wish those prices were current, they're all about 500$ more now

If you are spending a lot of time in front of a PC, get yourself a good chair. What most people are missing is that beside a good chair you need a strong body core. Take care of your body, workout with weights and you won't have any issues with your back. I have used Herman Miller Aeron and now I switched to Steelcase Gesture. If you are a bit taller like myself, 6.3 ft, you will love Gesture.

I have the gesture, leap V2, Embody and the Aeron remastered! I felt the gesture gave a weird pressure on my tail bone after sitting on it for a long time and I didn’t like it’s lock in angle adjustments. it feels nice on the lower back but if you lean back in it be prepared to suffer neck pain if no headrest on chair. The Aeron, Either you hate it or love it lol. I have this chair with the atlas headrest. I find this chair good for tasking and really keeps your posture straight while working. If you try to slouch in this chair it will punish you, you have to sit in it the way it wants you to sit in it so be sure to select the right size A,B or C. The recline is amazing on it but if you lean back in this chair too much while working on a computer you will feel neck and upper trapezius pain, nonetheless it’s a great chair for tasking. It’s Quite nice to relax in with the headrest and Also it’s on the firm side. The lumbar pretty good! The steelcase leap V2 - amazing chair and highly adjustable. I love the way the seat pan moves with the back rest which really eases pressure on your lower back while keeping your upper back and neck supported. Arms are great and I love the wide back on this chair. I prefer this chair over the aeron and gesture for working, I find it more comfortable and bang for your buck. The Emody - I just bought this chair for 2k and I would have to say it’s the most comfortable out of all these chairs. I don’t feel any pressure on my lower back when sitting and if I wanna cross my legs on this chair and relax back it’s the best of them all. The recline motion is so nice with the high back. The only down side I would say for this chair is that it’s so hard to dial in to fit you, you have to sit there and fiddle around with it for days or weeks before you get it right. The back adjustment goes from lower back all the way to upper back but when fully dialed up it almost creates a hollow space in the mid back and rounds your shoulders but if you dial it down you start to feel the support mid to lower back and kind opens up the top of back if that makes sense, becomes not so rounded. I think the embody is better for gaming than it is for tasking. The atlas headrest should be good for this . If you’re on a budget I would take the safe bet and buy the leap v2 as I find it the most adjustable and it’s very comfortable. you really can’t go wrong with the leap v2. Anyways, hope that helps! Peace 🇦🇺

bought a gesture last year... i thought i probably made a mistake buying it but this video helps reassure i made a good choice and remove the buyers remorse. its such a customizable chair and i love how you can control everything from one spot on the chair. the arms are very very good also. my only complaint is the actual seat, takes some getting used to as its not a deep chair that fully supports the thigh and this is why i thought i made a huge mistake buying the chair. but ive actually learned how to sit in the chair to achieve the most support and comfortableness. its a great chair. btw im 5'11 in height and 150-155 lbs. the uncomfortableness comes from having the chair set too high off the ground and the small seat combined with the firm cussion would be applying too much pressure to the bottom of my thighs eventually causing problems with the legs blood circulation which would cause the discomfort. once i learned to sit more on the edge of the seat along with lowering the overall height the chair became way more comfortable to sit in for hours. im used to sitting in chairs that support the full thigh but the way this chair is, it supports your butt along with part of the thigh along with the lumbar area all together like a glove. once i learned how to sit in it it became alot better. Good luck

First you say that Steelcase Gesture is a C tier chair maybe B at the top, because of the uncomfortable seat on the tail bone and now you give this seat 80 score over the Embody?

I think it would be fantastic if you showed a graph of Al the reviews of each category, where each review is plotted with the users height and weight. That way we can get a few for whether certain aspects of each chair cater to different body types/sizes. Great review, thanks! (Huge fan of the Fern)

Finally someone that talks about the padding on the armrests. So many just completely ignore it like it's not a big deal.

High-class review. Thanks for taking the time!

this was crazy helpful, THANK YOU! This was sooo thorough, instant sub.

Have you guys considered re-reviewing the FERN now that you can have the lumbar system removed? It seems like that's what polarizes people the most and it's not mandatory. Also, it appears your FERN has the plastic body armwrests. You can also get them in aluminium which probably reduces the wiggle/lower quality impression.

Like many, I've gone through a lot of chairs beginning with the budget chairs from Staples and Office Max. None of them lasted more than a year for me. I finally invested in a Gesture. I've had it for five years now. It still feels brand new and it's probably the last desk chair I'll ever buy.

Wow. What a thorough review. This greatly helped me choose between the fern and gesture. I appreciate the effort put in here and the host is spot on with his information and explanations. Great job. Thanks much.

Great review and very helpful

Love my Gesture. I got the Era - Saffron fabric. Color isn't as vibrant as the website; it's a tad brown and sun bleached looking in comparison. Still looks good, just not what they show on the site. It's still soft, not scratchy like other people say. The Cogent 3d knit looks like it will be hard to clean with pets and crumbs. I've had it for almost 2 weeks now. Headrest is a must if you recline often. You don't notice it when sitting upright at all. The seat padding is very comfortable. Could be wider, but it works. I opted out of the Lumbar since I didn't want to deal with adjusting it when I want to recline. I've heard other reviewers say it hurt when they leaned back as it's a hard plastic lumbar. I'm surprised you guys glossed over it completely. I've had a bad back my entire life, and this is the only chair I can sit in all day long. I've been using a $280 Noble Epic gaming chair for the past 4 years. It's comfortable to lean back in and chill, but the seat is way too firm for upright use for more than an hour. Quality is great; it still looks brand new. But the Gesture blows it out of the water, as it should for the price. The only real complaints on the Gesture is that the seat doesn't slide out far enough for me. I'm 240lbs 5'11" with 32" inseam. I really wish the arm rests locked and had a wider adjustment. Luckily, the max width is barely where I need it to be, so it's usable. The armpad swivel keeps moving inward on me, and I'm constantly adjusting it. I could deal with the freemoving armrest, but the swivel on the pads needs a locking mechanism. I may try to glue it or maybe wedge something to keep it from pivoting. Even with those complaints, it's absolutely worth the money. I don't regret it one bit. I would probably get the Cobalt Blue if I had to do it again though. I'm afraid of my blue jeans staining the light red fabric over time. I could send it back and purchase it again, but they're on backorder for like 9 weeks. I'm getting a $50 discount for the color inaccuracies ontop of a $100 discount for a shipping delay 🤷🏼‍♂️

Simply amazing, very helpful, thank you!

please do a list of the best ergo chairs for the office vs lounging. thanks!

Is there anywhere to purchase a fern with headrest online in US? Wasn't able to find one beside the executive fern option which not authorized to buy as an individual

Very nice in-depth review and comparison. I first got the Embody, but the sounds it makes when moving in the chair are so annoying that I will actually send it back. (even the armrests) For a chair with this extreme price tag, I'm expecting not a single down-side at all. I will get the Gesture now, because not only does it cost 600€ less where I am living, but the more aggressive lumbar support and the optional headrest are both plus points for me. (besides you also said that the chair is great for static sitting, and is more silent than the Embody)

Hi! How can I find the date of manufacture of the Herman Miller chairs?

great vid. Is the fern's lumbar removable?

Going into this my mind was set on the gesture, but I love the mobility that the embody gives you. And the fact that you can sit straight up damn know I’m confused

What a fantastic video. I tried the Embody this weekend and loved it, but didn't want to buy without comparing my options. This video did all that for me. Thank you!

Thank you for your video. Do these chairs make any noises as you lean back or reposition yourself, or lean your elbow on the armrest?

I ended up going with a Leap V2; however, I have long femurs and my butt is pinching at the back of the seat (due to it overhanging) making it numb. Would any of these have a longer seat depth to account for that and make for a more comfortable seating experience?

Hope they get 4D-arms, or at least some good armrest depth adjustment. I like being able to get the armest right under my arms on height with the table, while getting very close to the table.

So which is the best for lower back pain?

Is this over the new embody where they added in a small layer of foam like they have for the gaming variant?

I’m petite female, slightly below 5ft. I also have scoliosis so I’m looking for good back support. Is embody or gesture suitable for my case?

Really love the fern chair color but couldn’t find anywhere online. Any suggestion?

This is a good review overall, but I did want to get into something that isn't really addressed. That tension control for the back of the Embody isn't really about the tilt. When it is tensioned fully, it actually makes the back flatter, and when turned the other way is more S shaped. So usually what you would do is start with it fully tensioned and sit. If the middle of your back feels unsupported and is making your line of sight go downward, you need to loosen it up. And then if your shoulders are coming away from the top and you feel like you're looking up, you went too far in the other direction. The intention is for it to evenly and gently support the actual curve of your own back. Do keep in mind that your curve can change over time (especially if you aren't used to an ergonomic chair), so it may need to be adjusted over time or even day by day depending on how your back is feeling that day. And if you're tall or short, that is going to affect how its curve interacts with your own curve. Like I think taller people tend to have that issue of the top of the back pushing their shoulders forward. I don't want to argue that it is the chair for you, since everyone is different. But if you do want to give it a shot, keep in mind the intention they are going for and actually give it a couple of weeks to try it out. And some people like the extra padding of the Logitech version (in the spine area) and some like the original version better (some find the original feels more natural). They did add some extra scrim foam to the normal Embody's seat pan in Feb of this year, so also keep that in mind if you try a floor model of the original and it feels too hard for you (or you feel the "pixels" pressing into you). Most people also find the regular Embody runs slightly cooler than the Logitech one due to the kinds of foam in each.

Are there any large people in the office that test with you? I’d like to see some opinions from some folks that are over 6’ and 260-270 plus if you have anyone that fits that bill.

Great video. Mostly leaning towards Gesture, but that recline and upright section made me think Embody. Tough call.

Hey bro, you're an expert, I need some advice, I want to try out the Hag Capisco chair, before considering dropping $1,000 on it, but I can't find a retailer that carries it. I live in Connecticut, but am willing to drive to a bordering state if necessary, do you know of any places that carry it? thanks.

Just want to say something about the Haworth Fern. My chair at work is the Haworth Very, It shares the same arm design. The difference is my chair has the metal arms, but, The Fern can be purchased with the metal arms too. I'm 220 lbs and tend to lean, I found my haworth work chair arms to beat my HM Embody chair arms in comfort. Also something ill say that's important is if your a long term sitter or someone who gets up often during the work day SHOULD be an important deciding factor. The Embody chair is awesome for someone who is stuck at the desk for 3+hours at a time (I use mine for gaming). While at work im in and out of my chair all day. I do find that after about an hour im leaning from one side or the other (putting those comfortable arms to work!) but for short sits at the desk 30mins-2hours the haworth is great. I also got my fully loaded Embody brand new (open boxed) for $1000, and the Fern can be found for about $599 if you search. so, If you can afford $1000 id say Embody but if you can only afford $599 i'd buy the Fern. OR for $400 look at a 2nd hand Haworth Very. I give my Haworth tons of abuse at work for over 5 years and it's still solid.

Seems like embody is better all around vs gesture.. wonder why it scored higher from the office staff?

after watching this video I decided to buy the gesture chair by Steelcase and I'm so glad I watch this video thanks you

Do you guys sell headrest for Fern?

I've heard that the nodes on the Embody backrest can be felt pressing on your back and that it can be uncomfortable for some; what's your take?

with the fern chair, can you feed on the backrest the plastic at all, or does the fabric stop that

When giving your rating for specific aspects of the chairs, how tall is the tallest person who is involved in testing these chairs? And for that person, which chair did they find the most comfortable? I ask since I am a 6'6" and only ever find reviews from individuals that are average height.

I think there's a spider crawling between the Embody back at 6:11 o.o

which one is better for a 6'4 175 pound guy?

I have the chance of buying an Embody second hand or a Haworth Fern new (on a bid). Both probably gonna be on the same price. Very confused of which to go for as I got back problems (upper and lower). I sit in front of computer arround 8 hours/day for work and gaming. My curent chair its a "gaming" cheap chair (did its job for few years) but not confy. If some of the users that are active on this channel can give me some advice/oppinion about which to go for (probably 90% of you guys sit or own one or two of them) I will appreciate alot. Also, I'm 6.1 and 158 pounds. Thanks

i want a chair that i can adjust the back and be comfortable in for hours idk which one to get

Between the fern and embody which provides the most back support for sitting upright for tasking?

8+ years Embody user! But in the past few years, I keep getting neck & shoulder pain, perhaps this chair isn't for me after all. I am in a market of getting another high end chair.

I am torn between the gesture, leap and Amia. I did test all 3 and I kinda loved the Amia but it seems to be underrated from reviewers.. I just tested them for 5mins.. what's your take on the 3 especially when it comes to sitting for long hours at a stretch..?

There is no headrest on that Gesture, so it's not fully loaded? The headrest is one of the most important features of the Gesture chair, since it's one of the best headrests in the industry.

the audio is crisp and clear but I feel that lapel mic leaves something do be desired.

Now that this video is a year old, my question is- How are the seats after extended use? I've had chairs with great seats out of the box, but after a year, my rear is meeting plywood. I'm currently looking at the Haworth Fern Halo, but before I drop $1600+ on a chair, I really want to know if the seat is going to be usable after an extended length of time.

I've bought a Haworth Fern last month and tested it during 3 weeks. First, the chairs arrived broken at home ( the button to up/down was broken ) , I contacted the support and they sent me a new chair ( in 4-5 days ). Then I tested the chair , all options are really good ( carpet , 5 positions for the recline etc ) we can feel the quality. But as you said the seat is good if you like a ferm one. For me after 8h on it , it was a little too much But the biggest problem for me was the confort of the backrest. The feeling is not so bad, but the kind of "grid" they inserted , often it gave me some pain after few minutes. So finally I asked for a refund and think I will try the gesture. The only thing I am hesitated is the "only" 3 positions for the recline ... Do you think it can be a problem ?

Awesome review - Currently battling with Herman Miller on my EMbody Logitech Edition - They simply referred me out to 2 locations that never picked up my phone calls, and now I have been waiting on a Herman Miller rep to email me back for about a week. At this point, I am pretty lost. For context - the chair will no longer elevate and sounded like it lost all of its air.

Make sure it has adjustable lumbar and adjustable arm rests

Good vid

The Fern without the lumbar support is great. I am trialing it right now and it is my favorite out of the 3. I wasn't a fan of the back on the Embody. The back on the gesture is the best of the three. However, the Gesture's seat was way too uncomfortable for me. The depth on the Gesture is a problem - I felt like I was falling off the chair even extended to maximum depth...I'm 6'5.

I'm looking at the embody or the gesture, I see the embody is getting a headrest in the next 8 months as well (gesture already has the option for one). I'm 5'7-5'8, 160-165 pounds and I'm not sure which one I should get. The gesture is actually cheaper in Canada by like 200 or 300 bucks. Currently using a shitty gaming chair but I'm not sure which one I'd like more.

Nice vid, but everywhere I look, the max weight for the Herman Miller is 300 pounds, not 350.

Love my leather gesture, although i havent sat in the fern or embody

A month ago I wouldn't have thought I'd end up paying $1500+ to replace an old ikea office chair. Because honestly, the cost is higher than what I'm used to spending on furniture. After some internal fighting that lasted about a couple of weeks, I decided I would spend a pretty penny on a new chair if it meant quality and my choice was narrowed down between the Haworth Fern or the HM Embody. Both chairs have features that I'm looking for in a chair. This video and some others definitely helped. It ultimately boiled down to who would have a sale first - Haworth or Herman Miller - as both chairs had similar enough pricing. Well, Herman Miller has a sale going on right NOW, and so I caved and ended up purchasing an Embody about 10 minutes ago. I'll find out if it was worth it...

Tried the HM Embody yesterday; I'm over 6ft and over 200lbs and that back felt amazing! The arm rests felt SO WEIRD, not a fan at all. The Aeron arms feel 10x better. I really wish I could sit in the chairs like you guys to make a decision of which to buy. Unless the recommendation is to just order all three and return the two that aren't as good?

I have a choice between keeping my leap v2, a used Haworth fern or a used Herman Miller Embody. The leap felt amazing but after a few days I felt that the cushions were too thin (I'm only 50KG/100 pounds) and the lumbar support was too aggressive. I tried stuff like removing the lumbar but it didn't work too well. Would the fern or the embody be a better fit for me?

Purchased the Gesture. Ordered it with the upgrade Leather and Headrest. Arrived today at door. First impression, this chair absolutely beautiful! And sitting experience and the hype is right up there as per this video and the other review on this chair.....BUT!.....i'm not sure that i've received a bad chair or just a lack Quality Control in the factory assembly. But Seat of the chair loose and rattles. i can feel it wobbly when lean side to side. So I at it looked closer. when you grabbed the seat and kinda shake it, theres about 1/4" of play, it's like...it's not screwed in tight to the frame. Will contact SC and we'll see what they'll do about it.

Hi gesture with headrest IS good ? Thanks you

how tall is ryan?

After trying the Logitech Embody, Mirra 2, Steelcase Think V2, Hon Nucleus, and Haworth Fern I like the Fern the most. It is by far the most comfortable chair I’ve sat on next to the Hon Nucleus.

Bought a Gesture after watching this based upon the reviewer's comments that it placed near the top of the field in terms of seat comfort. However, as someone with pretty severe hamstring/sciatica pain, I'm finding it just as uncomfortable as the Posture-Fit Aeron at my office or the 2020 SecretLab I was hoping to replace at home. While firm seats may be great for people without such injuries, I'm finding it virtually impossible to sit in any of these chairs for more than about 15 minutes or so. What I really need is something that I can sink into like my La-Z-Boy recliner and glider (in which I experience no pain whatsoever), but yet still sit up at a desk to be productive. I've tried a number of seat pads, including the 2" thick Purple, but the extra height ends up defeating the lumbar support and cutting off the circulation behind my knees. Do you have any recommendations on a well-designed office chair that will treat my back as well as a Herman Miller or Steelcase without making my legs feel like they are on fire? i.e. Something with a truly deep and soft seat cushion? Preferably one that I can lower the armrests out-of-the-way (like the Gesture) so I can sit nice and close? EDIT: If it matters in terms of chair size, I'm 6'1" and 185 lbs.

What if you live in the UK...?

I can't actually find any of these in Canada or from an online Canadian retailer..

I would like to see ratings by experienced women who are 5'4 or thereabouts. Thanks

How did you do an entire recline section without mentioning if ANY of the chairs could lock while they were in the reclined position? It was clear that a couple could lock upright, but recline lock is pretty important to someone who has to sleep in a chair or even someone who just wants to be reclined for long durations. Would you remedy this please, BTOD. I do appreciate your reviews!

Got an embody to replace a racy gaming chair, I bought into the hype and while the chair is objectively better in many ways, I find that it does not really give you the freedom to sit how you like and still be comfortable and have the chair support you. For this reason I'm now waiting on a gesture as it does seem to be marketed more towards sit how you like and the chair will compensate well. I'm also fairly disappointed with how much noise the embody makes, my backrest is fine actually but the front seat depth adjustment which i have in the middle setting makes a ton of creaking noises when shuffling in the chair, just gives a cheap impression.

I returned my new Gaming Embody and ended up buying the Fern, and loving it. I'm tempted to try the Gesture, but if the Fern has more pronounced lumbar support than the Gesture, then I'll stick with the Fern. Thanks for the video

Embody vs fern vs lamia

with the leaf had more solid arms and came in all black.

nice gesture infomercial

u guys should note that the embody is super loud

Quite a few reviews of the Embody mention that it is a little more noisy, but I have yet to see a reviewer yet will demo the noise for you...

Would be great if you can do a comparison between embody and Logitech embody. :)

the gesture is the worst. The curves just like on the leap v2 is whats killing it. shittiest design. lumbar too extreme that in the lowest part it even curves away from you even if you try to sit as close as possible. And then theres the other curve in the top that curve too much away form your shoulders.. look at him sitting in it even.. the top part with his shoulders have no contact. And combined with never really being able to fully sit up straight (gesture and leap v2) because the backreast in the top always has too much of a recline angle.. not comfortable. The embody made it really felt effortless to sit really up straight without noticing it. Only problem was the hard un padded lumbar on it. sadly. Wish the companies would combine real comfort with more cushion around all these ergo features etc. and really bring in both better together.

Looking at my still like new Aeron I purchased in 2004 looking back at me watching this video judging me, "for shame shaaaame!!!" Don't be mad wait Aeron don't roll away from me angry I was just looking honestly!

My biggest gripe and deal breaker with Steelcase is that the cushions are about as good as the $99 Amazon chair my GF has if not worse. You can have all the great engineering and quality parts, but if one of the most important if not the most important makes it feel like I'm sitting on a wood plank then it's an instant avoid imo The most comfortable office chair I have sat in was easily the embody for comfort, but I opted for a UPLift desk over getting the embody a couple years back and honestly regret that because I all but quit using the standing feature within a few months lol.

I hate that my embody never feels like it sits up completely straight. I always feel like I'm leaning backwards too much even on the most upright settings. I absolutely love the embody seat though, and the arms are nice too

have had all 3 of these, as well as a few of the mid-range ones like autonomous and the storm mk2. nothing even comes close to the embody. the pixelated seat alleviated all back pain and fatigue while sitting. i honestly don't understand why every company has caught onto flexible backs that move with you, but still pair it with a solid plastic bowl/pan with some foam on it for a seat. do your body a favor and just get the only chair worth anything, the embody. you can thank me later.

So hear me out… embody back with gesture seat pad and levers. The body gesture? 🧐

One thing that would be nice to touch on is how tall people differ. How tall is this guy? I'm guessing 5'11''. I'm 6'5" and I think my choice is obvious. The one with the highest back + headrest

I had a Embody for about three days, as a tall person 6-6" it was terribly uncomfortable, the back and the seat..... returned it without a second thought.

no mention that the fern has a headrest while the other 2 dont even have an option for one

Steelcase only has a 5 year warranty in Europe.

How tall is Ryan?

I think I heard the words "high end" 100 times

Gesture looks like it would bottom out for bigger people.

Those Fen ratings are way too low for a chair at that price point.

One thing I just never see in these reviews is the height of the chair seat off the ground. It's an issue that's important to me, I am not a 6' giant, I am merely 5-11, but I also have really bad knees, and if the chair seat is too low, then after an hour or two my knees no longer want to straighten, as well they feel like they have a swarm of hornets or a dentist's drill inside them. I have a draftman's stool at the breakfast bar, where I don't have that problem, but all the other chairs in my house are too short. 55cm absolute minimum, 60cm is better ... but no review mentions this.

Why do you always make reviews of the chairs without taking a couple of minutes to adjust their height properly to yours?

I want the pronounced Lumbar. So fern has already won for me.

I don't recommend the Fern, seat cushion comfort is too firm and hurts legs.

I never see you talk about Steelcase Please, why is that? Perhaps it is not commonly sold in the US?

What bothers me most is paying those high end costs for unattractive chairs. There seem to be fewer and fewer decent looking chairs.

Damn most of these chairs are double the price now.