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@GrantDolanMusic
@GrantDolanMusic Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately bad writing discourages students who think they are just bad and can’t play the parts. It also eats up rehearsal time. You end up working on technical passages that don’t add any value to the music and teach bad technique.
@georgeguest397
@georgeguest397 Жыл бұрын
Yep...and unfortunately so many high schools don't even have a drum instructor in place to make any adjustments at all.
@drummersnare6276
@drummersnare6276 Жыл бұрын
Yeah many high schools have their band director write the drum parts or use stock parts. Thankfully I had Mike Jackson from the Bluecoats and Pete Sapadin from blue devils as my instructors in high school, they wrote great books
@lucscott3631
@lucscott3631 Жыл бұрын
@@drummersnare6276 casually name drops some of the biggest names in drum corps as their percussion instructor. Good for you man. That’s awesome
@lmaoitsmee1812
@lmaoitsmee1812 Жыл бұрын
@@drummersnare6276 🍪?
@drummersnare6276
@drummersnare6276 Жыл бұрын
@@lucscott3631 I know we were really lucky. Some schools aren’t so lucky
@musescore
@musescore Жыл бұрын
Great stuff!
@BudderBoyz
@BudderBoyz Жыл бұрын
Hi musescore
@calebdupree8728
@calebdupree8728 Жыл бұрын
how do you only have 4 likes and 1 reply lmao
@tomkaufman3914
@tomkaufman3914 Жыл бұрын
This guy won a gold medal in quad tenors,listen to him.
@SALEENS7GTR5
@SALEENS7GTR5 Жыл бұрын
More so than that, he's like one of the best drummers in the world. You dont just make a military band without being the top of the top
@Iplayquad
@Iplayquad Жыл бұрын
"Quad tenors" lmao pick one theyre the same thing 😂
@Dyingwood.
@Dyingwood. Жыл бұрын
@@SALEENS7GTR5 have you watched him play that Sungazer drum corps part? i had no doubts after that (and the only doubt i had before that was that he didn’t know about Sungazer)
@drummersnare6276
@drummersnare6276 Жыл бұрын
Quad tenors? Lol
@oscargill423
@oscargill423 Жыл бұрын
@@drummersnare6276 Hmm yes the floor is made out of floor
@BobbyJCFHvLichtenstein
@BobbyJCFHvLichtenstein Жыл бұрын
These videos where you fix writing are genuinely so helpful! I'm trying to get into writing, so it's awesome to learn things I may not get from the classroom!
@TheCardOpeningHub.
@TheCardOpeningHub. Жыл бұрын
Good for you! Hope you enjoy what you do🎉
@graceburton3016
@graceburton3016 Жыл бұрын
Eric needs a series where he makes good percussion writing terrible and almost near impossible to play. 😂
@ZRogers91
@ZRogers91 Жыл бұрын
Either they didn’t have a practice pad or… it was a damn snare player. We had a guy that only played snare write a couple cadences for us… It was riddled with impossible moves. That’s the benefit of playing tenors. We can actually write 😉
@drummersnare6276
@drummersnare6276 Жыл бұрын
Or it was a shitty tenor player
@pissed_misanthropist
@pissed_misanthropist Жыл бұрын
that last tenor part was a crime against humanity
@pzazz.
@pzazz. Жыл бұрын
I wrote it several years ago. I apologize greatly 😂
@connorericksonmusic
@connorericksonmusic 3 ай бұрын
@@pzazz. You wrote it?
@pzazz.
@pzazz. 3 ай бұрын
@@connorericksonmusic yep
@izukumidoria6004
@izukumidoria6004 Жыл бұрын
I am an 8th grade percussionist (I play mainly bass) I also right music in my free time. I like to watch these types of videos fixing music to help me get better at writing and what to look out for.
@idfk9578
@idfk9578 2 ай бұрын
That's cool
@Quantumstar65
@Quantumstar65 Ай бұрын
Very cool
@Dailysnaretricks101
@Dailysnaretricks101 Жыл бұрын
Hey! The first one was the music my band director gave to me
@RedDogMamaHD
@RedDogMamaHD Жыл бұрын
congratulations on being featured! Do you think your band director will implement Eric's suggestions?
@Dailysnaretricks101
@Dailysnaretricks101 Жыл бұрын
@@RedDogMamaHD I don't know, I'm to ask if we can just play the better version
@RedDogMamaHD
@RedDogMamaHD Жыл бұрын
@@Dailysnaretricks101 Do it! Then let us know what he says!
@theevil_Dem0n
@theevil_Dem0n Жыл бұрын
Always a good morning when EMC uploads
@splash8739
@splash8739 Жыл бұрын
True
@z98133
@z98133 Жыл бұрын
Having grown up in the NYC school system, I feel I was robbed. I was never offered music. I have tried to learn bass guitar as an adult and it is not easy or natural for me. I admire your knowledge of music, imagination, and your video production skills. Bravo Zulu!
@Leonlion0305
@Leonlion0305 Жыл бұрын
The tenor parts got me good lol I am starting to write tenor music as well and I always make sure they aren't awkward. I definitely need to change the un-symmetrical double stop though
@pzazz.
@pzazz. Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite series! I wrote that last part haha... not my finest moment
@splash8739
@splash8739 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@TylerDunphy
@TylerDunphy Жыл бұрын
It's all good! Tenor writing is some of the hardest stuff to do. Just make sure to play your tenor rounds out to see if they work!
@pzazz.
@pzazz. Жыл бұрын
@@TylerDunphy oh yeah, I'm a college tenor player now haha, I wrote that a few years back 😅
@TylerDunphy
@TylerDunphy Жыл бұрын
@@pzazz. ah. I respect that, I hate looking at my old crap haha. I’m also a college tenor player now! My stuff from years back probably looks similar
@pzazz.
@pzazz. Жыл бұрын
@@TylerDunphy that's sweet!! I played snare every year until now but I've been getting more into tenors and writing correctly for them for a little while
@Goalie29
@Goalie29 Жыл бұрын
Good morning! This is video number 11 of me asking Eric to make a set of tenors out of differently sized snare drums.
@matthewsaxman1028
@matthewsaxman1028 Жыл бұрын
Even 4 identical snares tuned higher and lower would be an interesting effect. Neat idea!
@Fathed1
@Fathed1 9 ай бұрын
boy do i have a video to show you
@user-xm5dd5ju4q
@user-xm5dd5ju4q 3 ай бұрын
He has in fact made snenors.
@jackbrauer5516
@jackbrauer5516 Жыл бұрын
That last one… your fixes are always so satisfying, I’m always going “thaaaaank yoooou!!!”
@pycnodus3577
@pycnodus3577 Жыл бұрын
Getting right to the point
@elliusagi
@elliusagi Жыл бұрын
Eric your editing is so good! As well as correcting and explaining the notes. And I'm smearing the chapstick on the screen again, so dry lips you have!
@michailschlagzeuger8056
@michailschlagzeuger8056 Жыл бұрын
Hello from Russia! I am a beginner drummer. I tried to play at a concert with slipknot songs, and the drum teacher told me that the songs use rolls on the snare drum (from Jay Weinberg). I ordered sticks with a "keg"-tip (I was looking for a round one). But they were ProMark TXDC50W and they are big... I decided to find out what "system blue" means... found Scott Johnson. Next, I just searched KZfaq for "drum rudiments"...and found your video. Thank you, you opened the big world of percussion for me!
@unoriginalclips9923
@unoriginalclips9923 Жыл бұрын
EMC is the best channel on KZfaq, change my mind
@johnburns2545
@johnburns2545 10 ай бұрын
That 2nd re-write is a great free tutorial for any young band director who finds that they need to write a cadence, and/or be the battery instructor. I hope the composer gets to see this video and doesn't mind the constructive feedback.
@justsomeguywholikesdrums1481
@justsomeguywholikesdrums1481 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much. Ive watched almost all of your videos. One of my favorites is the 12 Drumline cadences. I watch at least 2 EMCproductions videos every day, and I don’t watch videos very often. I never miss new video Thanks you for all the tips, beats, rythms, everything. its always so entertaining to watch. My high school’s battery was always hard to get into but they need a whole new bassline next year, so Im practicing snare and the bass players are helping me with their music. I may not understand everything in your videos but it actually still really helps. For now im stuck in front enemble, but that comes with its own perks. One of the vibe(raphone)s was supposed to be a tenor/quads this year but stayed in pit instead. They gave me their snare basics packet and now I practice every day. I REALLY need to work on my traditional grip, I dont think I’m doing it right but it kind of works. got any tips? Thank you so much! ❤️
@TheMokeleMbembe
@TheMokeleMbembe Жыл бұрын
I am not Eric but I am (was) a snare drummer (as you can see on my channel). A couple things that helped me improve my traditional grip were: (1) think of the motion of your wrist as the same type of motion as turning a doorknob, (2) don't curl your fingers in TOO much, let it be gentle, (3) the contact point between your thumb and the first knuckle of your pointer finger should make a capital T, (4) the stick should rest on the most distal segment of your ring finger, (5) make sure to stretch and work on things like slow legatos (infinity on a hand, playing on a drum pad along to music you like) because the grip and motion is not intuitive at all and takes time to become comfortable with.
@justsomeguywholikesdrums1481
@justsomeguywholikesdrums1481 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMokeleMbembe tysm!! ill definitely try it out. The way I was doing it looked a little right but It was hard to accent with the left and it hurt my bottom 2 fingers after a small amount of time so there’s no way it was. Thank you ❤️
@TheMokeleMbembe
@TheMokeleMbembe Жыл бұрын
@@justsomeguywholikesdrums1481 Absolutely, and good luck with trying to get onto snare! Also, don't take this as me saying 'no pain no gain' bc generally pain in drumming indicates something is wrong, but even so - I *still* get major calluses & occasionally blisters on my left ring finger where the stick rests/contacts, when I start drumming again after a long time off. The 'hard to accent w/ left' part sounds like, it was difficult to get enough wrist rotation to get the stick up high - right? Which, it's something that takes time for your body to build up the familiarity and muscle to do. Those forearm muscles aren't ones we typically use for a lot of exertion, so the demand that drumming places on them takes time for them to get used to. Once I tried to teach myself traditional grip on my right hand, to get a taste of what younger players were going through, and even knowing good technique and correcting myself constantly, it was very difficult to do and didn't reach the capability of my left hand. One other thing to keep in mind w it - a lot of people extend their left arm a bit too far, putting the stick at like 9 o clock (if you're holding the drum and looking at it like a clock). I feel like the left stick at set position should cross the rim at about 7:30 or 8 o clock, mirroring what kind of naturally happens with the right hand. This might seem picky or weird, but it actually helps get the right wrist motion.
@justsomeguywholikesdrums1481
@justsomeguywholikesdrums1481 Жыл бұрын
@@TheMokeleMbembe hey i know its been a little while but do yu have any tips on evening out my left hand with my right hand? Not just traditional, for matched grip it’s the same thing. Ive been getting a lot of power from my right hand and doing a lot of single stroke 8ths, triplets, 16ths, etc, on my right but my left is kinda weak and can’t go as far as the right. If you have anything it would be appreciated! also any advice on being on drumline overall in general? thanks so much!
@opticalmarz3329
@opticalmarz3329 Жыл бұрын
Great series wrote the second one, first time writing, and I feel extrememly bad for EMC rewriting it sorry for all the pain... I'm happy to say I now know how to actually write and made a better cadence that makes sense
@philliphulsey2079
@philliphulsey2079 Жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO IDEA😀 you should definitely write drumline parts to the song "can can". i think people would really enjoy that and it would be amazing.
@alexhochstein7568
@alexhochstein7568 Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is gold
@Jasi._._
@Jasi._._ 9 ай бұрын
The way I got a ad of you playing air drums before this vid.😭💀
@Officer_Browning
@Officer_Browning Жыл бұрын
Nice job EMC
@Arcadifie
@Arcadifie Жыл бұрын
I'm a volunteer percussion instructor for the high school I graduated from, and I grew up learning memorized parts and the drumline still operates that way. This year I'm trying to get everything written so we don't have to depend just on my memory on what they should be playing. What software does EMC use? Every single comment he says on how to fix things I completely agree on and would do the same thing and am currently teaching the drumline to do, but I need a way to write everything down and this software looks PERFECT. Any direction would be amazing so I can begin solidifying our line. They're doing absolutely AMAZING this year now that we've built momentum the last couple of years, and I want to keep that going.
@EMCproductions
@EMCproductions Жыл бұрын
Musescore
@Arcadifie
@Arcadifie Жыл бұрын
@@EMCproductions Awesome, thank you!! It's really nice seeing certain ways to write parts like the slashes for all 4 basses in unison. I'm definitely looking forward to more of these videos so I can take notes.
@landengunn2099
@landengunn2099 Жыл бұрын
love these videos!!
@Nareimooncatt
@Nareimooncatt Жыл бұрын
It's about time for an update video to see how many bands/players put these fixes in place.
@aa-fu2jd
@aa-fu2jd Жыл бұрын
mornin' emc!
@keeganherron8022
@keeganherron8022 Жыл бұрын
Straight into it I see
@cerealssbu7545
@cerealssbu7545 Жыл бұрын
at 9:46 your interpretation is objectively better as it shows the player where beat 3 is. it's usually fine to blur the lines between 1&2 and 3&4, but it really messes with people when you cross beats 2&3 without a tie in the non percussion world as well.
@SeanLaMontagne
@SeanLaMontagne Жыл бұрын
Facts. The bass parts I write look silly sometimes when a whole big uniso figure is accented everywhere except on the rim clicks. And I mean it. You better give that rim a little love tap then beat that head like it owes you money. Those mallets are expensive
@edanrussell5656
@edanrussell5656 Жыл бұрын
first! emc is the #1 channel on youtube!
@khatjia_1
@khatjia_1 11 ай бұрын
This is why I'm so happy that my band director did percussion.
@davidfinley248
@davidfinley248 Жыл бұрын
So informative- Thankyou
@OliviaSNava
@OliviaSNava Жыл бұрын
I would be curious for, the next time you do this, for someone to submit a professional drumline part that is written badly for EMC to critique.
@mr.bugsybug1610
@mr.bugsybug1610 Жыл бұрын
idk why but for me the melody played in 12:13 was fire
@theendtonewbeginnings5858
@theendtonewbeginnings5858 Жыл бұрын
love this
@isiahrowser
@isiahrowser Жыл бұрын
This was great. 👍🏾👍🏾
@OdaKa
@OdaKa Жыл бұрын
That poison beat was dope
@austintolley4066
@austintolley4066 Жыл бұрын
Laughed so hard at the very awkward tenor arounds on the third video.
@freemartha08
@freemartha08 Жыл бұрын
The black socks in this video really make it for me. ;)
@Thomas-ch8pz
@Thomas-ch8pz Жыл бұрын
Great video
@ZTMonster
@ZTMonster Жыл бұрын
5:30 We have a part in our bass cadence where we do some ff rim clicks and my buddy cracked one of his mallets
@theresa.y5221
@theresa.y5221 Жыл бұрын
no he played ffffffff
@adrianwilliams7764
@adrianwilliams7764 Жыл бұрын
I'm accidently learning things this is amazing also he looks way better with a beard
@CrowT
@CrowT Жыл бұрын
12:12 First measure of snare part: Poison by Bel Biv Devoe lol
@akaiyui9300
@akaiyui9300 Жыл бұрын
Video 3 of commenting for a collab between Steven Sassafrass VI and Clarence Boudreaux. I got so worried that Eric would feature the cadence that I submitted. I definitely wouldn't be able to sleep tonight.
@raidensama1511
@raidensama1511 Жыл бұрын
Is there a guide anywhere that may help us non-percussionist with writing out parts that at least come within the ballpark of reasonableness?
@kainpwnsu
@kainpwnsu Жыл бұрын
The entire piece at 8:00 has an odd feel to it. Can't say I would select that one for my drum line.
@famitory
@famitory Жыл бұрын
there ought to be a different notation for the type of "both notes are equal volume and pretty far apart in time" flam that people write when they want you to sound like the intro to my hero by the foo fighters, which is a pretty different flavour to the "very close, controlled quiet grace note with a loud main note" flam traditionally meant by the notation. i get the impression that the first kind is what people want when they put a flam at the end of a roll.
@ciansmith4286
@ciansmith4286 Жыл бұрын
Hi love the vids
@TheDeertay
@TheDeertay 4 ай бұрын
Where can I find a good list of the do's and don'ts ?
@SparksMC
@SparksMC 10 ай бұрын
6:22 That’s exactly what my band director says.
@OdaKa
@OdaKa Жыл бұрын
fortississimo
@carzan9586
@carzan9586 Жыл бұрын
3:55 a drag would be good there
@bread.and.cheese7334
@bread.and.cheese7334 Жыл бұрын
What music writer are you using, love your vids btw!
@ovahkill1284
@ovahkill1284 Жыл бұрын
can you tell me where i can find this tenor pad set?
@flummy1692
@flummy1692 Жыл бұрын
If you haven’t can you make a video where you go over every type of hit and string of hits or technique
@TLB_Swift
@TLB_Swift Жыл бұрын
What is that second to last cadence bro I love the way that sounds at 12:19
@BudderBoyz
@BudderBoyz Жыл бұрын
9:23 I do that tap off cause the people before me did it but I can’t find where it’s from? If it’s called the “poisoned” tap off I can’t find that either
@BudderBoyz
@BudderBoyz Жыл бұрын
nevermind it’s from bell biv devoe - poison I knew I’ve heard it before
@galaxyplayz7828
@galaxyplayz7828 Жыл бұрын
What is the name of the tenor pad you used in the video
@raizedbynerdz8718
@raizedbynerdz8718 Жыл бұрын
What software are you working in, and did the drum sounds come with it?
@k.jdrums
@k.jdrums Жыл бұрын
Did you get a new tenor pad?
@sam7not867
@sam7not867 Жыл бұрын
How do you submit sheet music to him to fix??
@ultra9349
@ultra9349 11 ай бұрын
I once had a timpani part and i showed it to the lead timpanist of the local philharmonic orchestra at the end of a master class for advice on pitches and my teacher came over and explained how bad the writing was for every part and they had to rewrite the trombone parts(it was kinda a trombone feature)
@user-zi2yg4yl5y
@user-zi2yg4yl5y Жыл бұрын
Just a quick question, have you ever auditioned for the Top Secret Drum Corps
@ash1theprincess
@ash1theprincess Жыл бұрын
Who do I submit my writing for the next video? I'm new to percussion writing and would love feedback!
@bobert7257
@bobert7257 Жыл бұрын
What music editing software do you use?
@sghg
@sghg Жыл бұрын
How do I submit a piece for you to review?
@Wizardking420
@Wizardking420 Жыл бұрын
Wish I had my drums tracked so I could send him some and get his opinions
@georgeswca
@georgeswca Жыл бұрын
HI - Which score writing program are you using?
@chair547
@chair547 Жыл бұрын
I think a cool video in the same vein as this would be a stock drumline tutorial. Unfortunately sometimes composers with no drumline experience end up writing parts. Say I'm a composer wth little drumline experience. How do| I write a stock drumline part that gives drum instructors something to play with and doesn't suck too bad in case a school doesn't have a drum instructor? That's the video I'd like to see.
@REF1084
@REF1084 Жыл бұрын
Which sticks are you using?
@DonovanGreen4
@DonovanGreen4 Жыл бұрын
Triple forte😢😢😢😂
@unknowngamer-jt9ki
@unknowngamer-jt9ki 9 ай бұрын
What do you use to make music?
@joshsalmons1867
@joshsalmons1867 Жыл бұрын
Do you write music for marching bands?
@jacobminges790
@jacobminges790 Жыл бұрын
This straight made my morning ideky but watching this was super entertaining hilarious and even helpful for learning things aboht writing music for drumline stuff 👌🏻🤌🏻
@leonardrayner4126
@leonardrayner4126 Жыл бұрын
What program are you using to do your drum music
@splash8739
@splash8739 Жыл бұрын
Imagine the writers of these pieces seeing this 😂
@BossAydan
@BossAydan Жыл бұрын
They sent them tho
@joselinadavila9406
@joselinadavila9406 Жыл бұрын
Can someone put the website he is useing for this video
@Sabino147
@Sabino147 6 ай бұрын
How him write for tenor on musescore, q search a lor but a don't, i'm brazillian, maybe the name is diferent ?
@ultra9349
@ultra9349 13 күн бұрын
Recently on my last year in my high school line i looked at the tenor part after our tenor player begged me to help em and rewrite it after the drum tech refused I saw some weird writing It was a cut time parade tune that we play for memorial day and 4th of july and there was a point where every drum instrument enters a roll at a different time and they all end with a shot It was 1 2 1 shot The tenors came in on 2 and had their shot on the next beat so it sounded like 1 2 shot shot Then the forbidden tenor part with sixteenth note triplets up from drum 1 to drum 4 where i rewrote it as each sextuplet was on 1 drum so drum 2 then 1 It was accented as sextuplets
@avramengland3386
@avramengland3386 Жыл бұрын
Did you ever receive your XymoX rims yet?
@joeyvela936
@joeyvela936 Жыл бұрын
anyone know how to write double stops in musescore???????
@MrWizarddog
@MrWizarddog 11 ай бұрын
What notation software is this?
@ultra9349
@ultra9349 11 ай бұрын
6:54 FINALLY SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS MY VIEWPOINT CRESCENDOS SHOULD BE BROUGHT OUT ESPECIALLY FP’S AND PIANO TO FORTE
@namelessisayt
@namelessisayt 2 ай бұрын
11:21 omg that gave me a mini heart attack
@c猫t
@c猫t 9 ай бұрын
Rim shot crossover
@allove9591
@allove9591 Жыл бұрын
How can I send my cadence to you
@georgeprice4212
@georgeprice4212 Жыл бұрын
At least none of these are the In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida solos!
@IronSnakeAce
@IronSnakeAce Жыл бұрын
He spoke drum
@the_moist
@the_moist Жыл бұрын
Quality
@yusufhermawan8685
@yusufhermawan8685 Жыл бұрын
0:55 aaaahh.. So thats how.. 🙂
@drum107
@drum107 Жыл бұрын
Hi, you use logiciel ?
@beyond69dzn
@beyond69dzn Жыл бұрын
What software is he using
@conlan_drumsyt2784
@conlan_drumsyt2784 Жыл бұрын
I have a question. How do you write the sticking out like you did? Did you have to repeatedly add staff text or is there a key bind I can find to do that?
@OMGitsEricE
@OMGitsEricE Жыл бұрын
The same place you go to for staff text, all the way down there’s a “sticking” option and it lets you write it faster
@conlan_drumsyt2784
@conlan_drumsyt2784 Жыл бұрын
@@OMGitsEricE gracias mí amigo
@evandanielson3619
@evandanielson3619 Жыл бұрын
control + L works best it’s the lyrics options it’s faster and better in my opinion than the Sticking option
@anthonybranson8973
@anthonybranson8973 Жыл бұрын
@EMCProductions. I have a handwritten copy of my high schools cadence from 20 years ago. I'd love to hear you play it on your channel. How can I get this to you. It be so amazing to hear it once again. Thanks
@fngf3501
@fngf3501 Жыл бұрын
You misspelled EMCProductions, I'm afraid he probably couldn't reach you
@anthonybranson8973
@anthonybranson8973 Жыл бұрын
@@fngf3501 youtube won't let you @ mention someone
@twistedwildfire1770
@twistedwildfire1770 Жыл бұрын
I keep getting confused about why you have headphones on. Then I realized that you have the tempo going in them.
@DocRoblox
@DocRoblox Жыл бұрын
Day 2 of asking to combine all your drums and cymbals into 1 set?
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