*UPDATE* We tried the quadruple pedals with 2 Duallists, and it worked surprisingly well! You can watch that video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/it2djdSA3ajWen0.html

If this comment gets 1,000 likes I'll force Eric to also buy a triple pedal so we can play sextuple pedal.

Played "Hot for Teacher" in High School back in the day and had to use the dualist pedal to do the beginning. everyone was blown away, i just didn't have the heart to tell 'em 🤣

If you add the duallist mechanism to both the toe and heel of the drum-tec you can get quad hits on one pedal, then with 2 pedals you can get an octo-beat. What do you think?

I think you're overlooking something here. They came out with a TRIPLE single pedal. That means it's now possible to get a sextuple double pedal going.

The gock idea was actually pretty cool... maybe not with the gocks specifically, but the idea of having a different sound source that you can easily bring in fast bursts of with the left foot during fills and such. Probably not worth a few hundred dollars for the average drummer, but still really neat.

Imagine how easy it would be to play messhugah- bleed with this beast set up

12:30 ah yes, my favorite genre: Crab Metal

Terry Bozzio has been doing this for years with a bunch of pedals playing heel on one and toe on another with both feet playing all sorts of complex claves and polyrhythms. This setup, I imagine with practice could deliver some very unique rythems though!

I actually have the drum-tec pedal. I got it after seeing a video for the dualist pedal. I never got used to it. I put it away and bought the conventional double pedal that is now on my kit

I can’t believe companies that make this stuff haven’t gone out of business yet

I've been looking at these pedals for some time, and I'm glad you decided to do a video on them. I knew I can count on you (a mainly millitary quad drummer) to NOT use triggers and actually show off the pedals fully and honestly. Thank you

Im not a drummer but seeing him try to figure it out was relatable as hell.

Day 1 of asking for a collab between EMCProductions and EMCDump

So the spring on the right side of the Duelist is the return spring for the main hammer, BUT the spring on the left side adjusts the striking force for the second hammer so to make the hit louder you need to put more tension on the spring.

yeah, Henker's drummer is insanely good with those pedals, tho he is using the discontinuated Giant Steps, they are like the dualist. it looks easy but that level of control needs a ton of practice to not sound like popcorn.

The heel toe method. This is how we learned to play fast on the bass pedal. There was no other way back in the day. You got it down really quickly. It took me weeks back when I was like 12

I personally like the Axis double pedal because its driven by a bar instead of a chain and you can just barely push down on the pedal and you get almost the equiv. of a full on kick. Makes swivel-footing so much easier. You should def. look into it if you want to brush up on your double-kick moves!

12:49 As a drummer, I love this! But the recording engineer in me hears insane amounts of click bleed and I just can't unhear that

Quad-bass pedal is key for Machinegun Psytyle (and other genre switches)

Maybe the legitimate hot for teacher intro is now possible?

*The colab we've all been waiting for*

Perfect for those gigs where you need to play death metal but very quietly and with no stage room 14:35 - sounds like the beginning of Hot For Teacher

How many bass pedals do you use?

*Video 22* of Loopy Grandma asking Lil' Peanut to play Wipe Out by the Ventures!!! ... Great for another video using the kit!!! And I know you are very creative, so I expect something EPIC! Maybe use your Marimba for all the Guitar parts! 🥁🐔🥁🐔🥁🐔🥁🐔🥁

Introducing the Lars Ulrich double bass cheat pedal.

It is so refreshing seeing you guys struggling like the rest of us would. Thank you

"Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should. " - Dr. Ian Malcolm

I have never had the chance to try a Drum Tech double pedal but after see this...no thanks! Kevin the creator of Duallist has some cool products.The triple pedal is a little overkill IMHO but the single/double is actually pretty awesome. I find it humorous when people think it's cheating. Using that pedal still requires mechanical control and timing. This has inspired me to crack out the Sidewinder pedal again and create a fun video. (Duallist cajon pedal). To my knowledge those never got released. Thanks again for the side by side comparison of these pedals.

So anyway, I started blasting

This is rare seeing rdavidr's studio use TWO bass drums

For me the breakthrough came on the heel toe technique when I realized that my ankle naturally made that motion throughout its path when I was riding a bicycle and cranking the pedals. I don't know why but it did help me realize that you just kind of let your heel fall down and then spring up onto your toe. I still kind of suck at it, can't sustain it for long bursts but Def can hit it as a quick one-two when I need to

Video 21 of commenting until EMC makes a front ensemble out of spocks

My tibialis anterior muscle has encountered a fatal exception at e031854FFF. Sticking with the "bass-ics". Thank you for making this!!!

+ 1 for the second Duelist

That double pedal sounded like placing wood on minecraft

11:16 is basically how Will Calhoun uses the Dualist pedal, only he has it on a smaller, jazzy bass drum on the left side. So it doesn't sound very metal but it's a really cool effect kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gMB9aZyf1N-olmg.html

12:50 that actually sounded kinda cool.

Fun fact Morgan Sansous was my drum teacher so it's really nice to honnor him since he's the only one to have gone this fast

I have two double bass pedals, one is on right kick 22”, one on the 18” kick, as a lefty. I also experimented with the original sonor dual twin pedals (the drum tec just copied that in a cheap version) and two of them is just melting the brain. One is just like learning to walk again but with one leg only. I can only describe like that.

17:13: How I thought I was sounding when I first got double pedals 2:06: How I was sounding

I’ve got pretty decent at the heel toe method. I’d love to try that single double

John Longstreth for the rescue?? Seriously, i would LOVE to see him playing with that setup

I’ve dreamed about making a heel and toe double kick for years. I didn’t know a commercial model existed. I want it????

There was a band that played the East Coast circuit in the late 80s called Cody and that drummer had four kick drums that he played and then when they came back through Augusta the following year he reduced it to just three kick drums but holy crap I have no idea what they're doing now

Should have tried odd time signatures with the triple bass pedal, might be Verry interesting

You'll notice the drummer you keep mentioning in the video uses two Sonor Giant Step Twin Effect pedals. Those pedals predate the Dualist and the Drum-Tec model by several years and are way better engineered than either. They're also extremely rare due to how expensive they were back then, similar to Sonor's Giant Step Middle.

I just kept watching them play the blocks and all I could think was "MOAR COWBELL"

I'm not a drum guy and maybe it's because I'm stoned. I found this video to be funny as shit. 03:15 when he puts both feet on the pedal lmao! 03:37 the bass sounds so soft it's hilarious! Make more videos like this.

video 3 until EMC learns a show style drum feature stillllll goin

Morgan was drummer of a french Metal band called « Heinker » and the video near the end was filmed 12 years ago

The first pedal you played is the same as the Sonor Giant Step Pedal. I saw Thomas Lang play one back in 2003, he was amazing with it. The patterns he played were truly insane and he was using it as his left pedal. So if you want to see a heal toe pedal played at expert levels, watch Thomas Lang. But then Thomas plays EVERYTHING at expert level.... Cheers

This is gonna sound random but I really appreciate seeing you guys hanging out with big over-ear protection. I don’t know how anyone is able to be anywhere near drums without any hearing protection, there’s kind of a stigma too. It just really made me happy seeing you both be so safe.

For the heel Kick Drum it's actually eaiser to use without your shoe on. I know it's weird but it actually helps

He's invented the very polite blast beat.

NOTHING BETTER THAN A GOOD MACHINE GUN TO GIVE YOU GOOD MOOD IN THE MORNING. XD

Fun fact: Quad pedals were first used in the 80s for power ballads.

When I saw two grown men connected a Dualist pedal to PAIR OF JAM BLOCKS, I thought “hey , there’s two guys who need girlfriends…“ But, upon more thought, my conclusion is “there’s two guys who married their girlfriends are now trying to ‘escape their wives’ for an afternoon“… Yeah that tracks. Good job on the video… And escaping your wives for an afternoon. D

holy shit an actual use for the dualist pedal lol bravo

After watching this video, I never want to hear another kick drum ... ever.

I did notice that when concentrating really hard on the weird techniques needed to operate the double pedals - both of you had your left foot sitting there doing nothing… I can kind of see an advantage of a double single pedal if it leaves your left foot free for something else - but I think the limiting factor is that we all have only one brain (except maybe Thomas Lang or Mike Mangini, who seem to have one for each limb). Seems to me that there isn’t much advantage if it needs too much technique to master. May as well leave out the hi-hat and use both feet?

I feel like if you’re going to be automating the double kick, you might as well just trigger it. At least with the DW you are in full control. Having said that, more than double(to me) is just flexing for the point of flexing and doesn’t make the song any better.

Black metal bands are drooling watching this

I play drums, and love the channel. I actually play normal drums with my Heels and Toes, alternating back and forth to get faster without moving my legs too much. But that's because I have limited mobility in my legs, the key is to put the Pedals on low action so you don't push down as hard to make contact, all I focused on is getting that loudness by applying more force to that alternating pattern. It's more in the Ankles than the legs.

...add a box o'rocks to a ninja blender powered to a mic with a Peavy bass amp and you now have limitless aggression in which to stone everyone in your path of incongruity! No? Think again.

The quad would sound great with a 6 string bass and dual 8 string guitars.

8:07 i can ear chuck schuldiner singin in my mind ''A condeming, fear strikes down. Things they cannot understand. An excuse, to cover up, weaknesses that lie within...''

“get a running start” 🤣🤣 You has me back in my chair coughing 🤣 “Yeah Jimmy.. HIT IT!” - “Just wait for me to get a running start” 🤣🤣🤣

this is something i need to try. i never used my heel as much as i should and ive been playing for over 15 years. this will be some great practice.

Finally something useful to do with my constantly bouncing leg!

That is so goofy! It's like your heel is your left hand!!🤣🤣🤣

Heel toe drummers rise up

The beards/general hairiness frighten me. The drumming is awesome. Wish I could do what y'all do! Cool post.

Innovation and expansion of the art! Nandi Bushell and Caleb drummer will scorching the earth with these before long!

The first pedal the heal looks like is always going to take inherently more work, since the heal leaver is has is around half the length of the normal pedal, and gives you less mechanical advantage on the main pedal. Around 2:55 you can even see that with the mallet heads move dramatically different lengths the difference in power available. My first impression is it might be best fit to doing accent beats in coordination with the main pedal, or giving a dampening option. Though even with just a little playing around it allow for faster beat, granted the more common duel pedal seems to have wider versatility and easier to achieve that.

18 minutes of ASMR "a evening making pop-corn " roleplaying.

"BROODLE BROODLE BROODLE, BRADDLE BRADDLE BRADDLE...Oh MAN, do I ever need a quadruple bass pedal!!" - Strong Bad

Aaron Kitcher's gonna get some competition

On the duelist pedal I think you are supposed to play a triplet feel. That's how you offset the third beater

One foot one mallet and one pedal is all that you need

Woh! That’s the fricken kick drum from the movie Vice Versa!

Tell me you're no longer in the USMC without telling me... EMC: BEEEEEEEEEARD.

Next we need the pedal hi-hat quad bass pedal

Haven't watched an EMC video in a while-GREAT BEARD OF ODIN!!!

One thing to make the quads "easier" is triggering your kick so you don't need much force. So rocking your foot back and forth quickly just taps the drum and isn't super loud... The triggers allow to give the kick more volume and any kick sound imaginable. When you show the guy in the studio ripping crazy 64th note blasts you can see his feet are barely moving and you can hear the telltale basketball hitting concrete sound of a triggered bass drum. Trying to do acoustic only quad blasts will require CrossFit/stair master/squats/and steroids lol. Awesome video and breakdown of the different kinds of double singles.

The drummer from Henker is playing heel heel toe toe. That makes it a lot easier to get it smooth

DUDE.... You and David absolutely cracked me up 😅😆🤣.... KUDOS!!! I Have several different makes of "dbl" drum pedals, including the "Dualist," and their very early model to boot!! While it basically works the same as a later model, such as the one you guys were using, I still have mad respect for those who with what looks to be "easy grace" and ridiculous control on their feet while playing, oh say.... "HOT FOR TEACHER, drummers there are!!" There are several "mini" Alex VH's out there knocking it out of the park and quite seamlessly at that!! Like Avery "drummer" Molek, or Sina, or Meytal Cohen, or Yoyoka "drummer" Soma... even an all around musician, playing every instrument, and great at "goof" parodies, Leo Moracchioli!! (There are another couple hundred that I am aware of, please forgive me for not including them, just trying to save space here!!!!) OR............... .... Maybe because I am damn near sixty years old and have been playing for over fifty four years, I have lost my edge some... well, maybe more then some... !!! However, I find it ridiculously easy (now) to do flams, more "kick" influenced paradiddles and etc. with my early Dualist pedal, then with any other dbl, single or any combination there of, foot pedals!! I would love to get a DW 9000 Double pedal, just to see if that would help as well, they are supposed to be smoother than a babies... BUM, especially the newer "long" footboard models!! I just find it very difficult to raise $800.00 for one of them... perhaps in my next drumming life!??! ANYWAY, KEEP ON KEEPING ON BROTHER DRUMMER!!!!! PEACE !!!!!🤘🏼

Came for the review….stayed for the instant death metal song

Drumtech should put a central pivot in the form of a bar or something for your foot to sit on to make the heel toe action easier

I can say, I only subscribe to a “drummer” because of the USMC thing. It’s fun to watch the evolution of hair growth once an EAS and DD-214 has been achieved. You have opened my eyes to how hard it is to be a decent drummer Vice Excellent. I’ve been in bands where we had a drummer that was a rookie and most listeners don’t hear the flaws. I was in a band with a Sgt, Motor-T kid who was really good, and once played at the Sturgis Bike rally at the Knuckle Saloon with an amazing drummer who was in a Jazz band, and a 70’s rock band. The band I was in at the time played 70’s style rock. Huge differences and very noticeably brings the quality of the band much higher. I absolutely love the content you bring to the table. I’m all “band” geeked out, and now just play for my personal pleasure. I retired from the Corps back in 2006, and still brag on you as a Professional Drummer and Marine. You are the extent of my knowledge of drumming. I have no plans to ever attempt it, and of course Pre-band practices have tried sitting behind a kit, and just have no aptitude or desire to drum. Keep up the great content Warrior!

Spent so much time figuring out if they could while not bothering to ask if they should.

Quad pedal: making every song sound like the intro to Hot For Teacher

That moment you wake up and realize you just spent 600 bucks on something you'll never actually use.

Give it to the guy who plays everything with one hand

Dave Lombardo is laughing with contempt

HENKER IS SUCH AN UNDERRATED BAND.

Dual triple dualists, hexblasting

The Duallist double beater pedal should have a lever on each side of the heel area, one turns on the double beater action and the other turns it off so you play it like a normal single beater pedal. Didn’t see or hear that discussed if you knew, but viewers should be aware.

Isn't this how that Slayer guy got his dubble bass sound!!!! 😆😂🤣

Beard makes the vid 10x more awesome