How to pull start your snowmobile when there is no manual start/recoil. 2016 Ski-Doo Renegade Backcountry 800 etec Clutch pull start
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@ALEXANDER-fl9wv2 жыл бұрын
When the snow sounds like Styrofoam you know it's cold.
@nolanhull3122 жыл бұрын
Never thought of it like that but that's so true🤣
@alandavis88922 жыл бұрын
Man no pull start is nuts.
@shortyhoward12 жыл бұрын
this when you bust your cord though lol
@darrenmilliken16772 жыл бұрын
Fuk no. Fuk EStart.
@barefootbob12697 ай бұрын
You don't have a pull start on your car you just have to be smart enough to keep a good battery in whatever has electric start only! Not rocket science just common sense. I admit an occasional emergency can happen but that is rare. There is usually signs leading up to final failure you just need to pay attention.
@Trump9855 ай бұрын
Mine has a pull start but no electric start. They came with one or the other you couldn’t get both. Honestly I don’t see why anyone would get the electric start, these things start on the first or second pull and while it can be a bitch to pull it over cold (the plastic pawls in the recoil like to strip out) you can always use this method to get it going if it breaks. Shame on Skidoo for making a plastic recoil! It might be fine on a 600, but it isn’t on an 800 especially in cold weather. My buddy has a 600 and we swapped sleds so he could try mine one day and when I went to start his I almost went over backwards because it’s so easy to pull🤣
@elihautamaki5472 жыл бұрын
putting a tarp over your sled when its that cold helps a lot more than you think. we had a cold blooded '86 D6 completely analog, we would cover it a big 100ft tarp after a couple hours the sun would have it 30 degrees in there even in negative temps. a machine is only as good as its operator nice to see you know your machine pretty well
@AdrenalineRushMX2 жыл бұрын
lol
@scor4402 жыл бұрын
Ya that tarp would charge the battery real quick?
@caseyyeeto85582 жыл бұрын
surprised no one in the comments said to pull that battery and bring it inside with you and then reconnect it when you go to start it. It takes a couple minutes but is better for the battery and fairly reliable
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
I remove the battery once a year to change the chaincase oil, and no, I will not be doing that at -34. I wish it was easier. If I had an aftermarket can in there, I might be able to wiggle the battery out. But otherwise the muffler has to removed as well.
@gingie52462 жыл бұрын
@@atikameg73 damn on the 18+ they put the battery behind the seat on a cover. A couple screws and it’s out.
@ButcherBird-FW190D Жыл бұрын
Buddy of mine lived in Crested Butte, CO back in the late-90's. He bought a new "Sled" as he called it, some massive monster, might have been 1,000 cc. I don't recall. It was colder than cold out, and the new sled was delivered. Hand start. Being the only non-Stoner and a wrestler for AZ State University..... Guess who had the pleasure of getting that puppy fired up. Almost killed me, but after 10 minutes or so, that puppy fired up. Ran fantastically, and was materially easier to start after that. Gotta tell ya, those bench pulls with the 100 pound dumb-bells paid off in that scenario. Virtually impossible to start in the cold.
@Kevin-ix4qz2 жыл бұрын
Pull start should be standard on every sled
@ryanbenbow-zx2sd10 ай бұрын
Four strokes don't Need pull starts. Mine don't need it
@benr80713 жыл бұрын
My summit everest has electric start and the pull cord, no idea why they would have gotten rid of it on the new models, but this video makes me want to fix the pull start now lol
@2511jeremy2 жыл бұрын
Its an option i think
@123devinzz12 жыл бұрын
@@2511jeremy yup. they make you pay extra for it.
@2511jeremy2 жыл бұрын
@@123devinzz1 what a joke they make a product for snow but when its cold the starter doesn't work.... pathetic company
@123devinzz12 жыл бұрын
@@2511jeremy to be fair the starter itself works. its the battery which skidoo themselves doesnt even make. any sled can have this issue
@2511jeremy2 жыл бұрын
@@123devinzz1 you know what i ment. they put it in the sled they said yup this is the quality we want for our customers and charge an arm and a leg for it when its trash
@Aspired3292 жыл бұрын
I had added a recoil to my 800 when new and still couldn't pull enough to get going, thankfully truck was close to jump it. I also had to heat the trailer up once to get it going. 850 seems easier to start in colder stuff and new 600r pretty good but yeah used the spare rope on the primary a few times over the years!
@davessparetime832 жыл бұрын
Every sled in cold weather should have a small booster pack for emergency starts.
@n2snow2 жыл бұрын
That’s the way to do it! Had to do that many times.
@gavinw41652 жыл бұрын
That’s why I got the shot start system because the first time that you fire it up you pull start it but every other time throughout the day you just press the button and it fires right up I really do like having that
@laydann48892 жыл бұрын
ya shot is nice but having it would do nothing in this situation
@zacklundgren Жыл бұрын
@@laydann4889 he would have a pull rope
@jasonbrushett2005 Жыл бұрын
@@laydann4889 shot system has a pull cord
@BigxL722 жыл бұрын
You know it’s cold when the snow sounds like that lol
@isaacsoderlund96772 жыл бұрын
I added the BRP pull start to my Renegade. Easy peace of mind.
@SuperGunny982 жыл бұрын
what year?
@isaacsoderlund96772 жыл бұрын
@@SuperGunny98 I have a 2015 Renegade. XS chassis.
@colinhamm6332 жыл бұрын
I had a pull start installed on my 2020 summit with e start. Hidden behind the side panel but there for emergency
@highcee02422 жыл бұрын
As somebody that lives in northern Michigan you know it's cold when the snow you're walking on sounds like Styrofoam
@burk3552 Жыл бұрын
Our Winters at times get down to -65c,down at our camp we build a small hut out of snow and tarp it over,we run extension cord from generator and plug into small heater for about 30 mins or so and sometimes we light small fire if we have to,very impressed with 850 etec in cold temps but not the 800 so much lol
@atikameg73 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Do you have experience with 4 strokes in those temps as well?
@burk3552 Жыл бұрын
@@atikameg73 we did a test one night when it was -60,the Skandic we parked into the wind wouldn't start,the Skandic in our little hut fired up,both machines the same,same year etc
@shperax3 жыл бұрын
You can get coolant warmers or battery blankets that really help with this. But who the hell wants to ride in those temps anyway lol.
@atikameg733 жыл бұрын
True enough. This battery has been weak since the day I brought it home from the dealership. One of these days I'll buy a new battery. Until then, I actually do start off on mornings this cold, so this method has saved me many times!
@briancrowell77183 жыл бұрын
I went for a 60 mile ride at -36. Just gotta dress warm and don’t stop
@atikameg733 жыл бұрын
@@briancrowell7718 Right on man!
@canadaeast83583 жыл бұрын
I did in Alberta a few times my fingers got cold at first but after that I was fine. If you ride hard like this guy you will say warm
@96Duelfuel2 жыл бұрын
Snow's pretty crunchy, that's for sure
@Shadowmythx1173 жыл бұрын
Also helps to tap on top of the starter if it wont engage cause it's frozen
@guskelman30582 жыл бұрын
I find it ridiculous that they make sleds with no pull start
@Hockeyfan98842 жыл бұрын
and yup, was taught this one about 36 years ago even when my 72 Elan 250 was giving me trouble . Diaphram carbs in cold temps is not fun.
@stefanp76032 жыл бұрын
You don’t need to hold down the start button. Ittle start without it.
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
Yes, of course. This way makes it super easy.
@tackdriverCA3 жыл бұрын
Nice
@qapsukalek2 жыл бұрын
Gooloo battery jumper
@NickRanger2 жыл бұрын
I seen this thing on Amazon its a heating pad that runs 12v. If you have the comforts of home and this is a regular thing.. i would run one on your battery and then run its wire so that you can plug in to say a 110v to 12v adapter.
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
That would be nice! Bought a brand new battery a couple days ago and hoping it performs well.
@NickRanger2 жыл бұрын
@@atikameg73 i have good luck with motobatt they have a ln agm battery that i have used in my ktm enduro for around 5 years now with little maintenance.
@unosteinwall92383 жыл бұрын
Nice vid
@atikameg733 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@John-pc3cx2 жыл бұрын
Glad this works but seriously BRP this is the solution?
@upnorthyooper11967 ай бұрын
Do you have to hold the start button?
@atikameg737 ай бұрын
No, but if there is any juice in the battery, it helps a lot.
@FishermanClay81082 жыл бұрын
My ear just fell off. I thought you were showing us something every rider wouldn't know. Not the opposite
@jake21022 жыл бұрын
i dont have to press start to pull mine over but then agian its a 600
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
The colder it gets, the harder it is to turn! And re-stringing the cord after each pull gets annoying. This way, you just pull once and done!
@rob2044321 Жыл бұрын
What’s the part number for your kit?
@chasf10663 жыл бұрын
Or you can get the aftermarket pull start pully for like 50/60 bucks. Seeing the BRP is BIG bucks
@JasonFrankenstein2 жыл бұрын
It was about $120 for mine. So about double...
@Woodwhore2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious why you mentioned the wind chill temp?
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
Just for human interest. I know it doesn't make a difference to the temperature of a machine.
@junkhondas4812 жыл бұрын
I seen a poor guy on the trail while I was driving by and he was doing this but he was trying to pull it on the secondary. Let’s say it wasn’t going to well
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
oh no...
@billkenyonbk3 жыл бұрын
Why would you want a sled without a pull start? Crazy
@atikameg733 жыл бұрын
I was shocked and disgusted the morning after I brought it home from the dealership and discovered there was no cord! Every machine I had ever owned had a pull start.
@billkenyonbk3 жыл бұрын
Yea that’s upsetting lol.
@2511jeremy2 жыл бұрын
@@atikameg73 yet say nothing negative in the video huh
@valkrath2 жыл бұрын
sadly it is not standard on sleds anymore :( they charge you extra for a pull start.
@nsa67903 жыл бұрын
If you’re gonna ride in those temps just grab the wife’s hairdryer and let it run on full hot for 10 minutes. Gets everything nice and toasty!
@atikameg733 жыл бұрын
Nice to know I could need a hairdryer for something!
@clarknawrocki38512 жыл бұрын
Why is there no pull cord on that snowmobile
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
I know, eh? It's optional now, I guess. A fact I didn't learn until the morning after I brought it home.
@Trump9855 ай бұрын
They come with either electric start or pull start, you can’t get both.
@sucapizda2 жыл бұрын
You have to light a large fire under it. It will take a while, but it will warm it up. Enough time to call your Polaris dealer and order a new 850.
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
LOL🤣
@pilluritari2 жыл бұрын
I ordered mine a year ago. That was a mistake. That thing never wants to cooperate when cold starting. Always end up with dead plug or some other shit. Works fine only when the engine is hot. Let it cool 20 mins and it stalls 3-5 times in a row when starting. That stupid fker can't figure out that it is running too lean.
@elihautamaki5472 жыл бұрын
do you still have the stock battery?
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
Yes, it is still the original battery.
@Mark_Tschetter2 жыл бұрын
@@atikameg73 I still have the stock battery on my 2016 summit sp as well. But it won't start the sled when the motor is cold, even if it's just -5°c. Its been that way for the last couple years. I've always wondered if the starter on these things is weak or if the battery they come with is the problem. But once the motor has been running and is warm then the starter will start it.
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
@@Mark_Tschetter I suspect the batteries are weak and the starters are okay. One of these days I'll buy a new battery and see!
@CraigArndt2 жыл бұрын
I’d be bringing a battery tender instead of monkeying with that bad design.
@hugodavidsson26522 жыл бұрын
imagine making a vehicle that is supposed to be used in northern climate that doesnt even work in northern climate.......
@1962mrmongoman2 жыл бұрын
take the battery out. put it in a sink full of hot water for 20 minutes
@kakrew47642 жыл бұрын
The easy way is for cheap ass Ski-Doo to have a pull start installed on the sled, My electric start Polaris has both, why can't Ski-Doo?
@sadlert2 жыл бұрын
That start attempt just cost you $150 for a new battery. ATV batteries are damaged almost instantly when you draw them down that far.
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
Pretty much all wet cell automotive batteries are useless once they've been drawn down too far. But this is not the same thing. A frozen battery is not a drawn-down battery. I've used this pull-start method numerous times per winter for 4 years - and the battery works reliably at temperatures warmer than this.
@davidbrennan52 жыл бұрын
my 1968 skidoo has electric start and a pull start lol.
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
trade? 😄
@davidbrennan52 жыл бұрын
@@atikameg73 Too Heavy. They made them a lot lighter in the old days lol.
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
@@davidbrennan5 Can you imagine if BRP resurrected the Elan? If they just dusted off the blueprints from '96, it would be bonkers.
@davidbrennan52 жыл бұрын
They might have to ditch the leaf springs and make it like a tundra. It would sell pretty well I think, trappers would want them and it would be a perfect beginner sled for younger kids.
@nathanwhitcomb78162 жыл бұрын
Why in the world would they not put a pull start on a snowmobile? Seems kinda dumb to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@3RulonchikOboev2 жыл бұрын
Ни когда не привязывайте железо вместо ручки. По еблищу ( лицу ) отлететь так может что щи не соберете. Вам бы посмотреть запуск трактора с пускача, вот там все поймете.
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
Well, thanks to you, I am now familiar with Russian method of starting tractors! LOL You have a good point about the handle. I've seen it done with a plastic handle, which would be safer. Or another possibility would be to wrap the handle loosely so it can spin off. I've got lots of experience with this method, though, and BRP has designed these clips to fly off the smooth clutch really fast. (The older style clutches would be far more prone to snag the rope) I've learned to stand over my seat so that my body is not in the way when the clip flies up - usually straight up.
@3RulonchikOboev2 жыл бұрын
Дружище, запуск трактора с ручного стартера это очень старый метод. Нет возможности прикрепить картинку что лучше всего привязать вместо железяки. В наших книжках есть рисунки с привязанной веткой. Не надо обижаться. Почему это опасно? Двигатель может дёрнуть в обратную сторону и ты лол не удержишь.
@3RulonchikOboev2 жыл бұрын
@@atikameg73 В инструкции для Polaris используется широкий ремень, без всяких ручек!
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
@@3RulonchikOboev No offense taken! That is all good advice. This reminds me when I was young, we had a 1939 or 1940 tractor that was started by hand crank only. I remember the kickback being a little too much for my little arms back then. It was our only tractor, so we kept it in the garage in the winter, otherwise it was too stiff to crank on those -30 days.
@3RulonchikOboev2 жыл бұрын
Your equipment was made for people, comfort. In Russia in order to survive, and it's sad. In my childhood, my first outboard motor hit me with a rope with a candle wrench on the end. After that, I began to tie only dry sticks to the rope to start the motor on the boat. I apologize for my English.
@johnplasse27812 жыл бұрын
Soo stupid..these sleds are meant to be used in the winter..winter gets cold and they leave you to do this to start it.. Way to go brp
@MikeMFnJones12 жыл бұрын
"there's a tool kit brp includes with the machine" how about just including a damn pull start smdh
@nhun68042 жыл бұрын
Man they make junk now in days, made for winter but won’t start in the winter
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 70s and 80s. Starting stuff at -34 is tricky in every decade!
@billmarty85262 жыл бұрын
Try a 1200 4tec! Yikes
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
A few mornings ago (-35), my 800 was so stiff that I actually broke the plastic clip on my emergency pull cord. So I'm thinking a 4 stroke would be pretty much impossible no matter how strong someone is!
@billkenyonbk3 жыл бұрын
Def not the easy way brother
@jasoncrocker42892 жыл бұрын
What’s the “easy” way?
@mikeversluis13472 жыл бұрын
$ 14000 dollar skidoo and no pull cord junk
@rack94582 жыл бұрын
34 below and I cant see your breath. I call BS!
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
Try in 720p or 1080p
@atikameg732 жыл бұрын
Here is the weather data for January 2021 in my location. climate.weather.gc.ca/climate_data/daily_data_e.html?StationID=43983&timeframe=2&StartYear=1840&EndYear=2021&Day=25&Year=2021&Month=1#