Never thought of it like that but that's so true🤣

this when you bust your cord though lol

Fuk no. Fuk EStart.

You don't have a pull start on your car you just have to be smart enough to keep a good battery in whatever has electric start only! Not rocket science just common sense. I admit an occasional emergency can happen but that is rare. There is usually signs leading up to final failure you just need to pay attention.

Mine has a pull start but no electric start. They came with one or the other you couldn’t get both. Honestly I don’t see why anyone would get the electric start, these things start on the first or second pull and while it can be a bitch to pull it over cold (the plastic pawls in the recoil like to strip out) you can always use this method to get it going if it breaks. Shame on Skidoo for making a plastic recoil! It might be fine on a 600, but it isn’t on an 800 especially in cold weather. My buddy has a 600 and we swapped sleds so he could try mine one day and when I went to start his I almost went over backwards because it’s so easy to pull🤣

lol

Ya that tarp would charge the battery real quick?

I remove the battery once a year to change the chaincase oil, and no, I will not be doing that at -34. I wish it was easier. If I had an aftermarket can in there, I might be able to wiggle the battery out. But otherwise the muffler has to removed as well.

@@atikameg73 damn on the 18+ they put the battery behind the seat on a cover. A couple screws and it’s out.

Four strokes don't Need pull starts. Mine don't need it

Its an option i think

@@2511jeremy yup. they make you pay extra for it.

@@123devinzz1 what a joke they make a product for snow but when its cold the starter doesn't work.... pathetic company

@@2511jeremy to be fair the starter itself works. its the battery which skidoo themselves doesnt even make. any sled can have this issue

@@123devinzz1 you know what i ment. they put it in the sled they said yup this is the quality we want for our customers and charge an arm and a leg for it when its trash

ya shot is nice but having it would do nothing in this situation

@@laydann4889 he would have a pull rope

​@@laydann4889 shot system has a pull cord

what year?

@@SuperGunny98 I have a 2015 Renegade. XS chassis.

I had a pull start installed on my 2020 summit with e start. Hidden behind the side panel but there for emergency

Interesting! Do you have experience with 4 strokes in those temps as well?

@@atikameg73 we did a test one night when it was -60,the Skandic we parked into the wind wouldn't start,the Skandic in our little hut fired up,both machines the same,same year etc

True enough. This battery has been weak since the day I brought it home from the dealership. One of these days I'll buy a new battery. Until then, I actually do start off on mornings this cold, so this method has saved me many times!

I went for a 60 mile ride at -36. Just gotta dress warm and don’t stop

@@briancrowell7718 Right on man!

I did in Alberta a few times my fingers got cold at first but after that I was fine. If you ride hard like this guy you will say warm

Yes, of course. This way makes it super easy.

That would be nice! Bought a brand new battery a couple days ago and hoping it performs well.

@@atikameg73 i have good luck with motobatt they have a ln agm battery that i have used in my ktm enduro for around 5 years now with little maintenance.

Thank you!

No, but if there is any juice in the battery, it helps a lot.

The colder it gets, the harder it is to turn! And re-stringing the cord after each pull gets annoying. This way, you just pull once and done!

It was about $120 for mine. So about double...

Just for human interest. I know it doesn't make a difference to the temperature of a machine.

oh no...

I was shocked and disgusted the morning after I brought it home from the dealership and discovered there was no cord! Every machine I had ever owned had a pull start.

Yea that’s upsetting lol.

@@atikameg73 yet say nothing negative in the video huh

sadly it is not standard on sleds anymore :( they charge you extra for a pull start.

Nice to know I could need a hairdryer for something!

I know, eh? It's optional now, I guess. A fact I didn't learn until the morning after I brought it home.

They come with either electric start or pull start, you can’t get both.

LOL🤣

I ordered mine a year ago. That was a mistake. That thing never wants to cooperate when cold starting. Always end up with dead plug or some other shit. Works fine only when the engine is hot. Let it cool 20 mins and it stalls 3-5 times in a row when starting. That stupid fker can't figure out that it is running too lean.

Yes, it is still the original battery.

@@atikameg73 I still have the stock battery on my 2016 summit sp as well. But it won't start the sled when the motor is cold, even if it's just -5°c. Its been that way for the last couple years. I've always wondered if the starter on these things is weak or if the battery they come with is the problem. But once the motor has been running and is warm then the starter will start it.

@@Mark_Tschetter I suspect the batteries are weak and the starters are okay. One of these days I'll buy a new battery and see!

Pretty much all wet cell automotive batteries are useless once they've been drawn down too far. But this is not the same thing. A frozen battery is not a drawn-down battery. I've used this pull-start method numerous times per winter for 4 years - and the battery works reliably at temperatures warmer than this.

trade? 😄

@@atikameg73 Too Heavy. They made them a lot lighter in the old days lol.

@@davidbrennan5 Can you imagine if BRP resurrected the Elan? If they just dusted off the blueprints from '96, it would be bonkers.

They might have to ditch the leaf springs and make it like a tundra. It would sell pretty well I think, trappers would want them and it would be a perfect beginner sled for younger kids.

Well, thanks to you, I am now familiar with Russian method of starting tractors! LOL You have a good point about the handle. I've seen it done with a plastic handle, which would be safer. Or another possibility would be to wrap the handle loosely so it can spin off. I've got lots of experience with this method, though, and BRP has designed these clips to fly off the smooth clutch really fast. (The older style clutches would be far more prone to snag the rope) I've learned to stand over my seat so that my body is not in the way when the clip flies up - usually straight up.

Дружище, запуск трактора с ручного стартера это очень старый метод. Нет возможности прикрепить картинку что лучше всего привязать вместо железяки. В наших книжках есть рисунки с привязанной веткой. Не надо обижаться. Почему это опасно? Двигатель может дёрнуть в обратную сторону и ты лол не удержишь.

@@atikameg73 В инструкции для Polaris используется широкий ремень, без всяких ручек!

​@@3RulonchikOboev No offense taken! That is all good advice. This reminds me when I was young, we had a 1939 or 1940 tractor that was started by hand crank only. I remember the kickback being a little too much for my little arms back then. It was our only tractor, so we kept it in the garage in the winter, otherwise it was too stiff to crank on those -30 days.

Your equipment was made for people, comfort. In Russia in order to survive, and it's sad. In my childhood, my first outboard motor hit me with a rope with a candle wrench on the end. After that, I began to tie only dry sticks to the rope to start the motor on the boat. I apologize for my English.

I grew up in the 70s and 80s. Starting stuff at -34 is tricky in every decade!

A few mornings ago (-35), my 800 was so stiff that I actually broke the plastic clip on my emergency pull cord. So I'm thinking a 4 stroke would be pretty much impossible no matter how strong someone is!

What’s the “easy” way?

Try in 720p or 1080p

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