Yess. And people mistake simplicity with easy.. IT IS NOT, cant noone do it like wayne forsure.

The schemes are crazy

Smart 🧠 Man

You have to listen the song 10 times and you see some magic

@Mark the remind me my first time listening to Eminem until I understand what is hip hop , don’t make my words mistakes, Wayne is a goat too.

Very good take on it

man became poetic, damn

I'm huge Eminem fan but Wayne won this one but Eminem won in their other songs also Eminem won when collaped with Jay z. for me all three of them are goats new gen is good but its all about money and making hits. Compared to these 3 who where creating rap we have today is joke

Kanye had that one good album which is top 3 for sure but other that he is not Even close to these 3

@@nuge_0275 em rapped circles round wayne on this

Best comment gang. No cap explained perfectly

no one could've said it better

correct

Perfectly explained

I agree fully to all what you said

Thats amazing brother, hope you’re doing well now , I love this song so much man the lyrics hit everytime I listen to it - Nice version of Osama

Hell yeah bro, glad to have come across this. God bless you, hope all is well 🙏🏼🙏🏼

Hope you’re still riding strong

Same!

Same

FACTS

12 years later, this song still 🔥 always feel like I'm hearing it for the first time

Carter 2 is Wayne’s best album 🔥

Exactly. There was no "who won".

Scriptwork runs it back all the time.

Www

@@markmac2206 Yeah, but they pretty much out the reaction game now. Their channel fell off hard.

Knox Hill brings it back all the time.

fax

Years later and you just brought this to my attention, I thank you. Catching new bars every day 😂

How/why is this a nod to Eminem ? genuine question :)

@@victorgrandpre5869 Em spits fire so Lil Wayne needs to have brought his A-game for this collab. Em's verse also has a lot of associations to fire, heat, etc. The top comment goes more in depth about this. - My unprofessional opinion

@@Twiztedpenguin Thank you bro

@@Twiztedpenguin I don't know if you're right about that. You might be, but I'm just guessing. I thought, because Em is the "fire marshall". If im wrong, it still is good tho!

That semicarter matic bar still blows my mind to this day

Honestly overrated it’s a literal dad joke but it’s y’all favorite bar?

@@djneptune1306can you explain that bar?

​@@Stinkfly300real gs move in silence move in silence like lasagna.

Best way to explain it

came to the comments to say this myself.. one of ems best verses imo, just gotta keep up

But thats the job of a artist to deliver his bars so as many people can apprieciate them as much as possible

@@blakan1478 true but em don’t like doing that all the time he said himself in an interview he likes to change it up depending on what he’s in the mood for .. sometimes he makes them easy sometimes he likes to do the corny shit on purpose and other times he likes to just go over peoples Heads

@@blakan1478 you can’t speak for every artist. Every artist is different, some like having Easter eggs that only their core fans can catch and some like being abstract to where it takes several listens to understand the overall message/meaning. Some like being simple and easy to understand. There’s no right way to do it. If that were the case then in art abstract artists would be “wrong” because they do their art form in a way that’s extremely complex and left up for interpretation for the viewer.

u shld have a listen to fast line by em and royce its insane

@@7ryanx it's amazing bud

Same😎⚔️

Me today... Em on this was a beast

So true, it's been 14 years since the release and every time I listen to this song i get chills

10th grade 🥲

I'm right there with you

Agreed, people just appreciate more the features, if we keep comparing the artist then some people may feel intimidated and we could miss another masterpiece like this one or drop the world.

Yep. They both became pillars in Hip-Hop

Guess what? They just did that

@@MotionBlurMyself They understood more whenever they went back a second time so “guess what?” That was the guys exact point….

He could be the biggest selling artist but could still get outrapped by Weezy the goat

@@zeemar13 yes he can but he didn’t lol and weezy is in my top 5

@@zeemar13 cant recall a time Em was ever outrapped by a artists including this i dont think wayne got outrapped either tho at least in this song

Factsssss

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Exactly 💯

Facts 100. I caught more bars in ‘Em song then those guys did because you have to also listen to the way he triple and double entendre into a bar or bars follow up by a bar.

You definitely need to listen to more Wayne. This was nothing… Also, Em’s bars weren’t that complex, he just had larger rhyme schemes. Wayne’s punchlines were more unique. Best bar, in my opinion, was: “All about my dough, but I don’t even check the peephole / So you can keep knocking but won’t knock me down” Dough = money, but sounds like “do’,” which is slang for “door,” and is a homophone. “Peephole” sounds like “people,” which is another homophone. Then he ties that in with the “so you can keep knocking, but won’t knock me down.” By the way, Eminem started using homophones heavily since 2015, and it’s Em’s most used literary device and has been since. Listen to Em’s last 3 albums, and you’ll find them literally EVERYWHERE. Edit: Oh, and I forgot. Little Richard has a song called “Keep-a-Knockin’,” a song about a a lover who he won’t let back in because of bad behavior. So the bar is a metaphor for how Hip-Hop has treated him. And “peephole,” which sounds like “people,” may be Wayne saying he’s all about the Benjamin’s and doesn’t care who he does business with.

“ cuz Marshall’s not mellow” the double entendre kills

​@@victoraguinaga7222💯 And they don't even know! 😒

@@srowe1528crazy they didn’t catch it. That’s what’s hard about Em you gotta listen and actually listen to catch some of it.

Kind of corny. I said it, bro made a dad joke and it’s y’all favorite bar. Wayne had way better punchlines cmon

Wrong choice on this one and wrong choice on Forever reaction. 2/2

It’s not a wrong choice it’s their opinion lol I see what ur saying but still they prefer Wayne nothing wrong with that it’s a close match up, at least they appreciate both verses

opinions cant be wrong. Wayne gets points because he's the only dude Em didnt lap on a track.

@@markmac2206 Well, no lap lap but he lap but no lap lap for sure. Wayne’s a beast

Not a wrong choice. Especially when it's this close

Drop the world from Wayne and Em is fire 🔥 too

Lil Wayne did his thing here, some of his best punchlines, his best metaphors and hardest verses are present. After that he takes a step back and supports Em with adlibs, Marshal simply does what you expect him to do and eat the whole fuccin rest of the song. What do you expect, Wheezy does his best around the best.

Nice writing bro it includes every thing good job

Anyone else’s favorite line “standing on my monopoly board…that means I’m on top of my game”.

Wayne's bars were far from simple. Did you not catch the wordplay?

eye respect that....been sayin em is just too complex on interlect

It's obvious you don't know rap... Wayne verse is far from simple... Wayne say things in a thousand years you won't ever think about...em can rap fast but few metaphors

Sources?

@@gotredboxes Wtf Im Stan from Begining I remember this time , . Sources ? xd. He took drugs and he collapse in the bathroom. Eminem Did interview about this

I don't think he wrote this song exactly after almost dieing. He wrote this after his relapse album so it been about 2 or 3 years after his overdose

@@michaelsaylor4903 Tell me when i told Eminem did this exactly after this happend ? . He just was again himself

No he didn’t lmao

This right here is why Em is one of the best. He has layers and layers...everytime you listen you catch something new. Most rappers have surface level bars maybe doubles, but Em has triple and quads

@@nairkeith I won't lie, I'm a stan, and I'll give my respect to Wayne, I listen to Eminem playlists every day, and to this day, I still hear bars in songs I've heard hundreds of times that I've never heard in that song before. And then I'm like 🤯 that bar hits even deeper than I thought it did

Nah it’s cause bro be rapping to fast , wayne better imo no hate tho

Lol every bar Wayne spot was a double/triple entendre. You can be the smartest in the room and listen to it 10 times over and still wouldn’t catch everything. AND he rapped slow so casuals could catch up.

@@Inwhyseeb No hate. But if you stop comparing them, you'll see the beauty of both their lyrics n flow. If Wayne didn't rate Ems verse you think he would let Em feature. Think about it. Peace.

faaaaaaaactsssss

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Yup just like that song he just did with snoop it brought out the best in snoop because he knows he has to maintain his reputation instead of getting smoked by em in the same song meanwhile em brought it yet again. You hit the nail on the head

@@kylemonsterdrywallfistbump5948 perfect example!

Trying to compare these two artists is a fool's errand, though... It's like handing someone a copy of a universally acclaimed novel that is seen as a work of literary genius...then sending them a hilarious meme with two lines of text that almost everyone can relate to...and then telling them to decide which is the better author and/or piece of writing. Lol

Yups i totally agree Wayne said this too by the way

That was a diss to Kanye. Wayne's verse is simple punch after punch after punch and only he can do that

He dissed Kanye for having to rewrite his verse on Forever

nah that was a shot at Kanye

Weezy F Baby don't write foo so the F is for Fuck you. If this Ems best verse against Lean sipping Weezys 8/10 But not his best verse, then I guess Wayne the Goat by your own logic lmao

I was just thinking that just now listening to that part of the song!!!

Although what you said might be true, but it's incorrect, in this particular instance, he is referring to Kanye snatching the mic from Taylor Swift at the VMAs: "snatch the mic from them, get these cocksuckers off stage, where the fuck is Kanye when you need him?"

On the forever lil Wayne and Kanye redid there Verses after they heard Eminem They all had good verses if they would’ve been in any song, everybody would appreciated their verses, but nobody talks Eminems shit he talked shit about all of them on the song And they went back and redid their verses, and didn’t even try to clap back they just try to make their first versus better than they were

wayne rewrote his verse too

@@vladig2835 Wayne doesn’t write

@@vladig2835 Kanye*

Ok instead of saying Wayne rewrote let’s say he re recorded which is what he does sometimes so people can stop saying Wayne don’t write it’s like ok you know what we mean re wrote/ re record, we trying to say the same thing lol

@@revertedrf978 everyone writes my guy, they just don't show up with pad and pen to the studio, if you dont write and memorize, then every retake verse would be different

Totally agree I think the three goats in rap are Eminem Lil Wayne Tech N9ne Actually I really shouldn't say think because think implies opinion and these are straight up facts😁😉

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There can only be one GOAT silly kids. It’s tough to pick but there is but one and it’s Obviously Eminem.

Tho.. there's a difference between a GOD and GOAT...Em is the Rap God.

Plz name.. someone that can..on a record, album or whatever can even. Match EM.... Busta..lil Wayne.. Jay-Z.. Nas......no One....i would love to see Em and @snowdaproduct.

and standing on his monopoly, bored. That ties back in to the later bars when it aint even cool to sound cocky anymore and all the way back to the first line about peoples rats perking up when he begins to smash with the pen. It is like if you play Madden and never take it off rookie. You are wining 86-0 every game and it get's boring and it isn't even cool to talk shit or brag about anymore because you don't have any challenge or competition

Imo Wayne brought more emotion and Em brought more wordplay and had fun with his verse

To each their own I guess@@tbtnr9851

@@tbtnr9851imo em had more filler bars while for me each Wayne line hit. Em was more for schemes and complexity as well as fast flow, Wayne was about creativity, simple yet deep and punchlines

🤘🏼Exactly!

Damn

He's so calculated

Lol

Unappreciated greatness.

🥶🥶🥶😱😱😱 Fuck fr? now i gotta go back damn he's nice

Wayne and Eminem are such a good combination. Great fit to eachother on a track. Drop the world is just as dope as this one.

@@flapdrol75 didn’t they already do that? Or am I thinking of Stevie Knights?

@@DJreeik Not sure, wasnt asking for a reaction btw. Was just telling that drop the world is also a classic and em and wayne should make more songs together. They fit so well on a track together.

Em's hardest verse When I'm not even in my harshest You can still get roasted, 'cause Marsh is not mellow 'Til I'm topplin' from the top, I'm not gonna stop I'm standin' on my Monopoly board (uh) That means I'm on top of my game And it don't stop 'til my hip don't hop anymore (shit

@@flapdrol75 oh nice

It takes more than 1 listen to catch all the bars. Especially all the double and triple entendres. He is simply a genius himself. The Goat!

Everytime I listen to Em I'm still catching his bars iits never ending

Bro shut up. Why you need to hate another mans opinion. Some of you stans

I caught every bar!!! This is Wayne’s w! More substance in his bars on this joint

Actually Wayne has more bars than Em by far

So true. Even Wayne said in an interview you have to bring your game because Em is a monster. But Wayne brought his game no doubt

Wayne don't write

@@noneofyourbiz39 wayne also said em was never gone to murder him on beat basically telling em you will never murder me on a song and i agree em would never murder wayne a song without dissing wayne

@tryme9390 who cares they both delivered. It wouldn't be a GOAT track if they both didn't deliver!!!!

@tryme9390Eminem had more and way better punchlines lol

@@Scorpion-lj2zbhell nah. Wayne punchlines hit way harder because of the metaphors and how deep they were. No disrespect to em because he had fire schemes but he wasn’t saying anything to clever or deep. Just because it’s complicated doesn’t mean his bars were hitting as hard

@@Stinkfly300 ems punchlines Hit way harder bro what😭😭

@@Scorpion-lj2zb name some. Bro y’all hype em so much man really said marsh won’t be mellow. Like nice wordplay but that shit was wack. Name Ems best punchline and in going to name Wayne. Also em literally had like a few actual bars while every Wayne line hit. Bro wasted like half his verse describing how peoples ears perk when they hear him rap

First thing that comes to mind is Evil Twin. Not fast at all. But every bar has true meaning

You have to exercise some interlect to understand em....man is just too deep for basic minds

People arguing in these comments who's better when the truth is this song is amazing, both guys are amazing, and the world is better for this song existing

100% agree

Facts 🙈👏❤️🐐🔥

@@MaximDL1410 it goes way over their heads. after a few listens you start to catch them

no you don’t… shit is elementary.

Watch knoxhill, he catches almost every bars em's spits

@@rencenaval8556 but, he's also a rapper/lyricist🤣 of course he's going to catch most of Em's bars, dude does what EM does for a living, just at a lower level. So he understands what EM is saying, because that's also his job too.

no

@@Jamestucker1024 yeah he did take this one

@@brandonmorales4131 no

@@Jamestucker1024 he did

No he didn’t. Wayne had this one for sure, big time.

I would argue the closest is with Royce da 5’9 on Fastlane

Imma say Joyner did very well and kept up on Lucky You

You gotta check out Calm Down by Busta Rhymes. He took that battle from Em... shit is Nasty! Both fire on but Busta... holy shit

@@Rellj16 fuck yea

@@brandoonf6962 Nah, Joyner was great but Em was on that Kamikaze smoke on that song/ whole album, he went crazy at the end. The whole “I sound like a broken record everytime I break a record”.

Not even close bro I can tell you don’t really listen to Wayne much lol, Wayne’s verses with Em are not that impressive he’s gone way harder

Go listen to Knuck If You buck from Wayne or Last of a dying breed with Ludacris those verses are fucking unmatched, and there’s way more where those came from 💯

I feel you need to go listen to "John" by lilwayne ft. Rick Ross.

GLAD SOMEONE SAID IT!! Fucking mind blowing ❤

Well said

Em wasn't trying to fit.....he fit numerous syllables in btw beats, no hate to you but there wasn't really anything fluid about lil Wayne's obvious punchline to punchline bars. Punchlines are impact bars there's supposed to be a stop, putting them back to back takes fluidity out of the question

I’ve listen to both since their start as well. Also an old head. I disagree completely. Eminem took this. Wayne went hard, but Em’s verse had it all.

I'm with you, Eminem is overall better than Wayne but Wayne rocked this way harder, the fan boys can't take it

@@Matty80822 doesn't that make you a Wayne fan boy that can't take it that Em took this feature? I don't think any of them is better here, both are equally dope af

@@4rl0ngit’s all subjective. I personally think Wayne part more fire to me and for me is close to a 60-40 then a 50-50