Emotiva PA-1 & SP-1 _(Z Reviews)_ mini monoblocks @( * O * )@
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5 жыл бұрынEmotiva PA-1 -------------------------------- [emotiva.com/collections/amps/...]
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@emotivaaudio6503 5 жыл бұрын
Hope I'm not speaking out of turn but just for clarify: The SP-1 was originally designed to be used with our DC-1 DAC. We have a lot of users that use the DC-1 as a dedicated preamp which is limited to only having 1 Analog input. We got a lot of customer feedback that they wished it had more analog inputs so we created the SP-1 for those that would like to add more analog options including a Phono Pre to their DC-1. The SP-1 remote allows users to cycle through the inputs and control the volume of the DC-1 without having to use the DC-1 remote. In return, the DC-1 remote can cycle through the inputs of the SP-1. The SP-1 can be used to add additional analog inputs to other brands preamps where the user might have run out of available analog inputs as well.
@ZReviews 5 жыл бұрын
Hey guys thanks for clarifying. I will pin to the top.
@charleskatz2606 5 жыл бұрын
@@ZReviews Yeah but they have discoed the DC-1 all that was available recently was refurbed units.ASR (Amir) dumped all over build quality said the crappy caps wouldn't go distance and the thing was dangerous in terms of bad ground.Sucks too because in addition to what the world needs now is not only love sweet love but half size component stacks. You could use a Schiit Sys $50 volume I suppose.Guess the Sprout 100 is better deal.Also they had a good XLR out CD player that was right price and now is $600 with add on inputs.Why is it that folks like Emotiva have the right goods at right price then screw with it.
@charleskatz2606 5 жыл бұрын
Good call on the mini DSP!!!When you gonna get a MiniDsp SHD to review?Streamer,Pre,Dirac,and 2 in 4 out?Only thing missing is MQA and Roon other wise it's soup to nuts!!(Can I say "Nuts" hear?)
@charleskatz2606 5 жыл бұрын
Paid $5 to show fund as pennance for hooking on to Emotiva's reply.Let that be a lesson to my brethren and sisterhen that you have to put something in tip jar for infractions
@ebarbie5016 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you please clarify the exact Icepower module used in the PA-1. Emotiva online spec says ACS300, but ICEpower website says that the 300ASC was replaced with the newer 300AS1. So which one is used in the PA-1? Also, is the PA-1 module better than the ICEpower 250ASX2 (assuming BTL mono operation)? Howcome the ASX2 series have a heartsink but the AS series doesn't? You cant tell which series is superior from the data available on the Icepower website... Thanks
@karl5043 5 жыл бұрын
The SP-1 was designed to work with the Stealth DC-1 DAC which has a volume control and analog input. Its essentially a twist on the usual preamp-dac setup. Usually the signal boost, volume control and analog input switcher are in the same unit and that is a traditional preamp. Emotiva put the signal boost and volume control on the DC-1 dac and put a passive switcher in the SP-1 with a phono stage. Its the same thing just with the features shuffled between the devices. Zeos they maybe thought you'd do this review with the DC-1 dac because you have reviewed it before.
@DaveEiler 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me a little of my desk setup. 2 Dayton APA150 class AB, miniDSP2x4HD as DAC and EQ, USB volume control, Dayton 15" sub, Elac UB5.
@crashtfa 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha nice control freak link, thanks for the laugh I needed that
@Puffy-pu4ci 5 жыл бұрын
THEEZE... are what i have been looking for!!! been pondering the Dayton apa150's.. just got the micca rb42's and i need more POWAH!
@juliangst 5 жыл бұрын
Zeos, you have to test the new schiit speakers stuff like their aegir class a amp or their new solid state preamps
@ranelime 5 жыл бұрын
Finally! Thanks!
@sudd3660 5 жыл бұрын
i really should make a comment about this review, been waiting for a long time for zeos to get around to it. first i want to comment on some misconceptions: THD is not high on those icepower modules, its just that emotiva wanted to say its 140 watt by using higher THD, it is perfectly capable to get 120 watt at 0.1% THD. i also want to mention that the clicking noise is not acceptable, and one fix that might be possible, is to disable the auto standby feature since that is what causing it. i got a icepower poweramp myself and that also have that auto standby feature and even tho it dont make any noise it is still a broken feature. if you get the proper manual with blueprint i found that you can disable it by bridging 2 pins. it is now always on. some of the more experienced reviewers that had this emotive pa-1 amp said it was the best sounding amp they make. but as zeos said, you need a good preamp, preferably with balanced out. its basically high end amp and should be reviewed like it. there is not excuse for emotiva sending a control unit without volume control...... but then emotiva don't have a stereo preamp with balanced output. so next step is surround processor with balanced out. they should at least sent zeos that instead.
@fredmcgovern302 5 жыл бұрын
I still have my vintage Adcom 565 monoblocks. Had to get the input boards updated a few years ago but they still work and sound great. I use them to power a pair of Polk SDA 2Bs
@younggunz4081 5 жыл бұрын
That opening had me at full candy corn 🌾 🌽
@thedownunderverse 4 жыл бұрын
Notice the XDA-2 remote there. How do you feel it stacks up today against more modern DAC’s? I still run an XDA2 but considering an upgrade...
@horhey4063 5 жыл бұрын
If you want the Emotiva pre but cheaper and WITH a volume control the Technolink TC-754 preamp/switcher/phono pre exists...
@Acoustic_Theory 5 жыл бұрын
The SP-1 are just an ICEPower 300ASC in a housing. That would be where the story ends, but the SP-1 is about the cheapest way you can, as a consumer, get your hands on a 300ASC amplifier module. And sometimes what you need is a basic, very basic, amplifier module to expand your system and you don't want to shell out for a whole XPA chassis, or you know you like the sound of the ICEPower modules and want to put them into a system with a stereo pre-amp like the XSP-1 or BasX PT-100, or a home theater processor like the XMC-1. I hear you about the Control Freak knobs. That and the DC-1 dropped off the face of the earth before their time was finished. The Emotiva products that are worth having (to me) are the DC-1, Control Freak unbalanced version, TA-100, and XPA gen 3 series. (And I happen to have all of those listed.) I'd also take the new BasX A-100 for driving headphones. The Stealth SP-1 was designed to hang off the analog input of a DC-1 and expand it to a full "Stealth Stack", but the DC-1 was canned in anticipation of a DC-2 DAC that didn't materialize.
@12346798Mann 5 жыл бұрын
nice cables, do the amps sound way worse without them? Or are they a must have?
@horhey4063 5 жыл бұрын
Speaking of Behringer, they discontinued the A500 and replaced it with the A800 which happens to be class D. Be interesting to hear your thoughts on that amp Z.
@brydon10 5 жыл бұрын
The A500 was actually pretty crap. Check out it's measurements. Hopefully the A800 is better.
@jsatorres8300 5 жыл бұрын
Hey zeoz why didnt you review the amps with your emotiva dac pre amp sitting right behind them? It would have worked great
@davelemieux2470 5 жыл бұрын
I’m running the PA-1s with a SMSL SU-8 and SVS Ultras in my family room. I needed something small, powerful, inexpensive and out of sight from my wife. Happy so far but nowhere near as good as my Rega/Paradigm setup in my office.
@Sh4rkeBotxD 5 жыл бұрын
Got two WAudio cables, red one for my AVR and the step up that one black for my amplifier, great cables, never believe it made a difference but in my case it did.
@MrTeaTimeGaming 5 жыл бұрын
That control freak link was cruel z -.- Im still trying my damned hardest to track one down
@adaboy4z Жыл бұрын
These would be perfect for Kef speakers as the treble is very laid back.
@invisiblekid99 5 жыл бұрын
Do the Jamo also come upside down from Amazon?! They should have a special "z" editon.
@nickmimi3631 5 жыл бұрын
I have these amps and like them much. Go to Bellari audio and buy a passive pre-amp and there you go, nice volume control for everything. Or pick one of their other reasonably priced products.. US made and some of them come in the most awesome shade of fire engine red. Good solid budget priced products!
@Crkelly91 5 жыл бұрын
I might get these. Any good pre-amp recommendations?
@Zephyrus88PL 4 жыл бұрын
I see what You did there, Zeos. Your Jamo are now Ower.
@duvels86 5 жыл бұрын
As a fellow simracer, do a review of your simrig!
@JEG6919 5 жыл бұрын
These, or the crown amps in mono?
@barchetype6430 5 жыл бұрын
0:10 Zeos, you aren't even monetized. You give us "Free" samples.
@pyrobunny_mdpl 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Zeos (or anyone in the comment section), what music player are you using on your computer? I usually stick to foobar2000, but I want to see what else is out there.
@dontpanic15 3 жыл бұрын
winamp classic with milk drop visualization
@dilbyjones 3 жыл бұрын
Woah!
@hayesjohnny 5 жыл бұрын
What is a good service to use to listen to high quality audio files?
@josephthefirst1 5 жыл бұрын
Should i return my HD660s ($500 after taxes) and get HD6XX for $220 and a good amp instead?
@MrBonger88 5 жыл бұрын
There are many 4 ohm speakers that drop down around 2 ohms in certain regions. Don’t just look at a speakers nominal impedance.
@V1ralB1ack 5 жыл бұрын
Aren't most high end speakers actually 4 ohm speakers. I know my kef speakers are actually 4 ohms and power hungry despite what they say.
@philipwrobel5497 4 жыл бұрын
Could you run the monoblocks directly off the vmv D1 dac to speakers?
@jon4715 3 жыл бұрын
If it had volume control, and a nice remote, this would be a killer setup.
@TexasCorgiGun 4 жыл бұрын
Does The" tick " still going on when you play music ?
@Slinky511nx7 5 жыл бұрын
LOL How are people saying the power cables sound good in the amazon reviews????? Like seriously
@dafrenzy 4 жыл бұрын
Slinky511nx7 oddly....they do. My wife and I pulled all the power cables out of my marantz home theatre and plugged them in for fun and we were both pleasantly surprised how much better the AV7705 and 2 MA7055’s sounded. We had ZERO expectations
@iuanyanglin3585 5 жыл бұрын
I hit like just because it is monoblock
@herrtrigger7220 4 жыл бұрын
A balanced signal is about twice the volts of RCA/line level
@quikspecv4d 5 жыл бұрын
I guess you could run it through a Schiit SYS and gain another input.
@danielbarrera4908 5 жыл бұрын
I think I got budah trolled on that emotiva freak link
@Gary_M 5 жыл бұрын
Try the A-300. $400 and I wouldn't trade it for two of those.
@ShadowWhippler 5 жыл бұрын
Stealth is good!!!!
@dougg1075 5 жыл бұрын
Some distortion is pleasant to the ear. Tubes
@V1ralB1ack 5 жыл бұрын
I wish more people would understand that. Those asshole analysts who depend on measurements can't seem to understand that there is such a thing as an amp sounding sterile or lifeless or overly digital sounding.
@dougg1075 5 жыл бұрын
V1ralB1ack yep! Class D
@Karmic_Chaos 5 жыл бұрын
I have one of those balling WAudio power cables running my Denon AVR.
@GnuMovies 5 жыл бұрын
XTZ Edge a2-300 you should check em out
@CoolMusicToMyEars 4 жыл бұрын
Ticking is comming from Switch Mode Power supply !, humm, I got to be honest I do like quiet units.....sometimes you NEED to load switch mode power supplies to work properley, its the Ferrite switch core that NEEDS to be encapsulated, you could measure that area with a oscilloscope on the power rails,
@deadpeoplejuice 5 жыл бұрын
Those red power cables can't really be 10AWG conductors like the Amazon listing says. 10AWG wire is 6mm in diameter, and they have a photo that measures overall diameter of the cable to be 17mm. 3 x 6 > 17!...And that doesn't add in the extra girth for insulators and shielding! I'm guessing the conductors are only ~14AWG each. Zeos, or other owners, want to take one apart and give us the proof.
@skatar01887 5 жыл бұрын
Then buy one & take it apart
@einarbk885 5 жыл бұрын
funny how you dont realize its icepower from denmark. and its freq response is as flat as it gets. your volume control though is not, it will mess with the impedance relationship
@stephenoverton8352 5 жыл бұрын
Looks as though both Emotiva and PS Audio have both gone with sterile, lifeless and harsh sounding ICE modules. These companies must be getting a great deal on them since there is no other reason to use them. I purchased the new version of the Sprout integrated several months ago. After listening to it connected to my Tekton Pendragons, I was immediately ready to send it back after only a few minutes of listening. I don't think any amount of "break in" would improve the sound of that thing. When it comes to Class D, I haven't heard anything that sounds better to my ears than the Hypex modules...not just the Ncores, but also their OEM modules.
@V1ralB1ack 5 жыл бұрын
You gotta cut class d's some slack. Yes hypex ncore are the best class d's but the icepower are a solid #2. Class d amps have come a long way. Of course a class a or class ab with a high class a bias is best but for the convenience and price they do have a place. Maybe for home theater use or if an integrated amp is needed in a small space? With that being said I have a Nad D 3045 and it uses hypex class d's.
@alexanderjellison3063 5 жыл бұрын
ICEpower modules can sound very good if properly implemented and fine tuned. I run the PS Audio mono blocks with the ICE 700ASC modules and they are a long ways from being sterile, lifeless, and harsh. They're completely neutral and ridiculously powerful running my 4 ohm speakers. They do some stuff on the analog input side to change the sound to get rid of the typical Class D traits. I totally agree with you about the sonic tuning of their other products though. I had their gain cell dac/preamp, and it sounded very harsh and sibilant with boosted highs. Was not impressed at all and sent it back. These emotivas though are basically a DIY setup with an ICEpower module in a box, and no fine tuning on the input. Might sound very stereotypical Class D. I was checking these out last week for my other setup and I decided to look into a pair of Apollon amps with the Ncore modules for a little more money.
@magneticcinema 5 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderjellison3063 so, I am very curious what preamp you are using with the PS Audio M700 monoblocks and with what speakers? I now own the PSA SGCD (after my Theta preamp and trying Parasound) and am feeding the little Emotiva PA-1 monoblocks via balanced XLR into my 4ohm Vienna Acoustics Mozart Grands and prefer the sound to my Adcom 555 mkII monoblocks and my Anthem A5 amp. I think the PA1's are a sonic bargain and after my research, I felt they would be very similar to the PA Audio class D amps.
@napalmhardcore 5 жыл бұрын
Will you please replace the belt on that turntable! Seeing you push it to stop it slipping every time is starting to get to me. PS: My Tin P1s were dispatched from Linsoul yesterday.
@jeremygunkel 5 жыл бұрын
napalmhardcore I got my P1s from Linsoul last Friday. Much enjoy.
@napalmhardcore 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeremygunkel Good to hear you're enjoying them. Really looking forward to hearing them. Never heard a planar before.
@herrtrigger7220 4 жыл бұрын
1. Can you hear the ticking with music, as in a silent part of a track or in between tracks? Can you hear it from about 8 feet away? 2. Nobody is going put 300W monoblock power amps on a desk setup. 3. This is the same amp module with same specs as used in the $2,500 Bel Canto monoblocks and the same as PS Audio uses in the Stellar amp, $800 mono or $1600 or stereo. 4. Power amps do not have volume control, that is an integrated amp. The Bel Canto mono's (same ASC300 Class D amp modules!) are currently Class A on Stereophile's list of Recommended Components. 5. What the hell is Rocky Mountain? Is that like Fitz Pass? Gotta secret? 6. Check THD on a $10K Mark Levinson, it's .1%. Emotiva rates THD at full power like Crown and QSC, not at 1 watt like Sony or JVC. You should have used XLR that is what it's made for. Good review otherwise?
@dontpanic15 3 жыл бұрын
are you sure. I thought integrated meant it has a dac of some sort.
@Edward135i 5 жыл бұрын
My Miller Tig welder has a thinner ground cable than the power cable for that speaker amp, at full power my welder 210 amps at 240v will pull 50,000 watts 😂
@mickeyparker 5 жыл бұрын
Buddah laughs at my face. WTF Zeos? 😁
@mwaldhauer 5 жыл бұрын
2.66 ohm is 3x 8 ohm speakers in parallel
@xianduvallx 5 жыл бұрын
Available replacement for that volume knob: www.amazon.com/TC-Electronic-Resolution-Computer-Independent-Control/dp/B001PGMNRG
@MadMaxx1977 5 жыл бұрын
I tried those Emotiva monoblocks for my desktop LS50. Pretty good, but I opted for a pair of Outlaw 2200 monoblocks, instead.
@V1ralB1ack 5 жыл бұрын
LS50s are deceptively power hungry. They really love that class ab or a power.
@MadMaxx1977 5 жыл бұрын
V1ralB1ack True dat! The Outlaws pump out 200 watts each.
@amazoidal 5 жыл бұрын
Or use a Parasound 2350 with a stereo i700as2. 350 watts at 8 ohm, 600 watts at 4 ohm.
@slowmopoke 5 жыл бұрын
You need to aged your cables in a french wine cellar for at least four months!
@quikspecv4d 5 жыл бұрын
slowmopoke : make sure to lay them on their side.
@ryanadriano1295 5 жыл бұрын
The IK Multimedia iLoud MTM's are finally out! You definitely need to review them cause they're definitely the best mobile monitors ever. If you thought the iLoud Micro Monitors were good, you'll definitely be blown away by the iLoud MTM's. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/iLoudMTM--ik-multimedia-iloud-mtm-powered-studio-monitor
@chrisvinicombe9947 5 жыл бұрын
So they brought a load of ice modules from b&o , stuck them in a box and are calling them emotiva amps , ok.
@mra.cortez3553 5 жыл бұрын
What's the point? Several manufacturers use these modules in their amps. www.audioholics.com/audio-amplifier/clone-amplifiers
@sunriseshell 3 жыл бұрын
I AM GOING TO BE SICK! The head-mount camera work just does not work for me. WAY too much shaking, I really wanted to to watch this too.
@dougg1075 5 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the desert of the real.
@arigatomr.robato 5 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: “NIPPON” means “Japan” in Japanese. ;)
@robertnorthcraft4674 2 жыл бұрын
Why didn't you let us hear the amp
@jeremygunkel 5 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the early 2000s when class D came to car audio. At that time it was just limited to sub amps due to the high THD.
@sudd3660 5 жыл бұрын
you misunderstand THD, the distortion is only at that wattage, if you lower the wattage by 10%, THD usually drop by 90%, so i would say this emotive 140 watt amp is really a 120 watt at 0.1 THD.
@carlosbauza1139 4 жыл бұрын
Verbose. It is a display of the author.
@hifitommy 5 жыл бұрын
Z....what you need is a line stage which will give you switching and a gain control such as an emotiva PT100 emotiva.com/products/pt-100 this gives phono mm/mc, dac, and tuner with gain control. no need for any more than the PT100 and the monoblocks. why did they send that separate phono section. ...hifitommy
@skatar01887 5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm why not just go with two crown XLS 1002 for $289 bucks, bridge them & call it a day?
@juliangst 4 жыл бұрын
The amp module in those monoblocks might be better and more suited for HiFi use.
@jirya957 5 жыл бұрын
ha ha ha (the will to not purchase INTENSIFIES)
@wizardwebs 5 жыл бұрын
You are meant to use it with the DC-1 dac with it between the Sp1 and the amps
@jstutman 5 жыл бұрын
Tick Tick Tick Tick
@Monkeyseemonkey79 5 жыл бұрын
The SP-1 is a bizarre product. Why the hell did they build it without volume control?
@mmmadog 5 жыл бұрын
Lost me at class D. When is the big Schiit stack to your right going to be reviewed??
@meing4577 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make your video more stable??
@herrtrigger7220 4 жыл бұрын
We're going to evaluate this with 1/4 inch adapters from RCA and a jack-leg mickey mouse front end instead of balanced cables and a decent balanced source like it's designed for, then we are going to hang all that baggage around the neck of the amp... Seriously?
@testtest-ol3yi 5 жыл бұрын
MC-700 NOW
@trulyjared 5 жыл бұрын
THD has to be lower. These are the same modules from the PS audio s300 that measures at .02. Hopefully audio science will review the PA1. Two of those and a Freya might be good. No brainer for an LRS or .7.
@V1ralB1ack 5 жыл бұрын
Dude audio science is stupid. The distortion of icepower class d's is super low to a point then like zeos says and like all class d's are they will distort like a motherfucker at high power. They're still the 2nd best class d's you can get next to hypex ncore class d's.
@robertorodriguez2609 5 жыл бұрын
why the hell don't smsl, topping and the like build mono blocks? i think they can make some cute motherf.
@LannnR 5 жыл бұрын
can anyone help me out. what's the best amp or dac for 600ohm headpones under $250. Currently I'm looking at FiiO EO9K
@adambrown8867 5 жыл бұрын
I had a 4 head stereo "HiFi' VCR. Yes I know. I don't think your audience are millennials Z.
@salchiflas 5 жыл бұрын
No everybody knows that if you gonna do a monoblock setup, you gonna need a preamp ¿? wasn't that like common knowledge??=?=?=?= o.o
@ianaintsaying1625 5 жыл бұрын
Power specs at x% THD at 1kHz (a single frequency) is meaningless.
@shoryu4341 5 жыл бұрын
Please, review the sony mdr1am2.
@dougg1075 5 жыл бұрын
Panel speakers
@adambrown8867 5 жыл бұрын
A review of a phono stage with 5 seconds of vinyl played on the phono stage? Weird.
@masterxyr 5 жыл бұрын
_dip switch_ sounds like a pejorative slur
@dilbyjones 5 жыл бұрын
Why aren’t we just ending up at PRO GEAR?
@st0rm4g3dd0n 5 жыл бұрын
Not a great play by any means
@scoraber 4 жыл бұрын
For the love of god, stop poking at and touching the drive belt on your TT.
@AnalogCave 5 жыл бұрын
If you planing to do vinyl's please get yourself better turntable :) And no picture disks as they sound awful :) Cheers from vinyl addict :)
@allankvist6741 5 жыл бұрын
So long. So much useless info. Get to the point!
@btmiller14 5 жыл бұрын
for about a grand for that setup and no volume control absolute crap end of story.
@blunderingknifereviews1028 5 жыл бұрын
Quite simply they sent you the wrong thing. They make preamps and should have sent you one of those.
@sudd3660 5 жыл бұрын
i would say that they don't make a preamp suited for that class d amp. they don't have a balanced stereo preamplifier.
@endofword2012 5 жыл бұрын
Roller Coster effect make me sick ...tumb down fix it and get tumb up
@kentxx12 5 жыл бұрын
This is not good.
@gzubeck3 5 жыл бұрын
These amps are a fail. The a-300 I have for $200 less will run circles around these. I think emotiva rushed these out to have a class d product to fill a void in their product line.
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