Empire at War 2 feels unnecessary

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Zade

Zade

Жыл бұрын

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Thrawn's Revenge is quite possibly the best Empire at War mod ever made. Or, at least, the most well known. While there hasn't been a new version out for a year or so, version 3.3 likely isn't far away. So let's see where the project is at now before that happens, shall we?
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@Typo350
@Typo350 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the venerable imperial imperial star destroyer
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
I knew someone would say it 😂 ATM machine Agm meeting Etcetc
@mmcb2910
@mmcb2910 Жыл бұрын
"The engine does to what feels like 25% speed" FAF players: "25% IS normal speed"
@martindejonge695
@martindejonge695 Жыл бұрын
After a couple of hours in a multiplayer game, you would start questioning whether it is the game slowing down or if are you hallucinating
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@ethanforster
@ethanforster Жыл бұрын
My list of must play Empire at War mods in no particular order: -The Age of Legends -Awakening of the Rebellion -Empire at War Remake -Fall of the Republic -Republic at War -Thrawns Revenge
@ManoraManYT
@ManoraManYT Жыл бұрын
Fully agree Age of legends probably adds the most in ships to me so many factions and ships
@danielduffield7327
@danielduffield7327 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget FOC Alliance Rebellion.
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer 9 ай бұрын
Rise of Palpatine and Stargate Pegasus Chronicles are also mods you just need
@vaniellys
@vaniellys Жыл бұрын
I'm not a Star Wars fan and I never played Empire at War before, but I bought it to play the Stargate mod, which is really good.
@spectralassassin6030
@spectralassassin6030 Жыл бұрын
There's a what mod? What?! WHAT!?
@BalckWDragon
@BalckWDragon Жыл бұрын
@@spectralassassin6030 Yes. It's called Pegasus Chronicles.
@stormtrooper2466
@stormtrooper2466 Жыл бұрын
I’ve played the Stargate mod, it’s great. I did start off with Star Wars, give it a watch!
@alexanerose4820
@alexanerose4820 11 ай бұрын
@@spectralassassin6030 Yep. Been following it priror to 2012 and I can say it did more for the universe then it's holders have done in a decade. Ground combat could be a bit larger in scale though but their biggest innovation is the ability to freely place buildings on the map. Personal tip: if you play as the Wraith use aship called the Iratus and use both it's shield drain and drone kamikaze. It's super cheesy and effective against all ships in the game
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer 9 ай бұрын
Amazing mod yeah
@joelmcfly5172
@joelmcfly5172 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to mention: There is a planet finder option in the game. Basegame has it, and all mods kept it. If you click on the question mark and go to the tab on the right side, you can scroll between all planets listed there, ordered alphabetically. If you click on a world, you get automatically ported there with the camera. This way players don't have to search for a planet the entire time.
@nicholashernandez7908
@nicholashernandez7908 Жыл бұрын
Dude ur a legend
@primachpepe8597
@primachpepe8597 Жыл бұрын
wait what been playing since release and havent known this 😂😂😂😂
@ryangarcia985
@ryangarcia985 Жыл бұрын
I've just like memorized what part of the map planets are in and just pause and search for like 5 min before I realize it's on the other side of the map
@angry_eck
@angry_eck Жыл бұрын
@@primachpepe8597 IT even has the production and fleets in there
@primachpepe8597
@primachpepe8597 Жыл бұрын
@@angry_eck bruh, how have i missed this?
@ManoraManYT
@ManoraManYT Жыл бұрын
One thing I missed was some of the cool features of some ships they added such as the capture shuttles to not limit yourself from other factions ships if you want to use certain ships in conjunction with each other
@eccentricartist3996
@eccentricartist3996 Жыл бұрын
a bit disappointed that you didn't mention that you can board and capture enemy ship, it my favorite thing to do in the game
@parker1093
@parker1093 Жыл бұрын
I always enjoyed the space battles more than ground wars. Auto resolve was perfect
@shadowulfhedinn8261
@shadowulfhedinn8261 Жыл бұрын
My personal favorite, the EaWX mods! Imo, each battle and campaign feels different, no one strat works every time, which is not always the case with EaW.
@chel9190
@chel9190 2 ай бұрын
Rachel, TR dev here. just watching this tonight and finding your review, I thank you humbly. Seeing things like this is why we continue to do the things we do for the community out of our spare time.
@Dinnye01
@Dinnye01 Жыл бұрын
Zade, never, EVER say the word "Deck". Ever. Also I laughed pretty hard at the 1:58 mark :D
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
Sorry I gotta
@DATskorge
@DATskorge Жыл бұрын
Well spoken and structured with timely visuals. Nice channel. Sub!
@pablopablo3834
@pablopablo3834 Жыл бұрын
I played both base games first then Fall of the Republic because its simpler than Thrawn's Revenge and made by the same team so when I got to Thrawn's Revenge everything made sense. I never look at damage of weapons or shielding stats and I play on Cruel difficulty so you can ignore that you just need a good composition to get Fighter/Bomber superiority and have smaller ships with point defence to stop any Missiles. Also defending/Capturing Planets that are chokepoints is good as it frees up other forces to defend or attack other sectors.
@BeeWaifu
@BeeWaifu Жыл бұрын
0:10 Oh no. It became bitter? What happened?
@H4is3nberg
@H4is3nberg Жыл бұрын
😂
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
NZ moment
@Jerry-tg7zx
@Jerry-tg7zx Жыл бұрын
@@Zade_95 I could almost swear that was a kraut accent lol
@callmecloby8365
@callmecloby8365 Жыл бұрын
Thrawn’s Revenge is pretty much the only mod I use whenever I play Empire at War. It’s just my favorite given it’s era system and how it changes over time.
@mitchellucchino2078
@mitchellucchino2078 Жыл бұрын
He should cover awakening of the rebellion
@nonyabisness6306
@nonyabisness6306 5 ай бұрын
EaW 2 would allow to add some really nice feature though. EaW is great, but it does have some flaws that could be fixed, like moving units between fleet during pause, engine upgrades etc. Performance tends to nosedive with some mods due to engine limitations.
@ThomasMurch
@ThomasMurch Жыл бұрын
10:04 - As someone called Tom who was playing a game on my other screen whilst watching this video, this bit nearly killed me.
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
GOTTEM
@ThomasMurch
@ThomasMurch Жыл бұрын
@@Zade_95 More like ... "Got Tom!" ...Don't worry, I'll see myself out, I'm used to it by now.
@jaywerner8415
@jaywerner8415 Жыл бұрын
Their are many mods i would Recommend for Empire At war. Thrawn's Revenge, Fall of the Republic and the up coming Ravens Revenge all from the same team. Then we have Awakening of the Rebellion (my personal fav so far), their is also the Remake Mod and as of recent REPUBLIC AT WAR got updated like last month.
@Lucass_CABJ
@Lucass_CABJ 5 ай бұрын
I need Empire at War 2 for new graphips and more.
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer
@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer 9 ай бұрын
Empire at War 2 ideally would be a mix between EAW and Rebellion, With a large galactic map where you need to collect resources and allies and wisely use your characters while engaging in diplomacy and creating secret bases in the unkown regions and outer rim. While also keep the fast paced and epic space battles of Empire at War and maybe even the ground battles
@galenamicks9007
@galenamicks9007 7 ай бұрын
A more modern EAW would solve ALOT of the game and engine limitations.
@JPOGers
@JPOGers 6 ай бұрын
2:34 Can’t believe there are people who DON’T like the land battles
@AntonSlavik111
@AntonSlavik111 Жыл бұрын
I found Thrawns Revenge to have the best performance of all the mods but then again no two systems will ever run the same so another mod may run better for other people. I will say without Thrawns Revenge we would never have gotten new updates to the game from Petroglyph Games which i am still shocked EA singed off on and even before that the TR team found a few things out about the game and its engine that they passed on to other modders.
@rmartinson19
@rmartinson19 7 ай бұрын
There are a couple of things that a modern sequel could do a bit better. One of the major ones is compatibility with multi-core processing. EaW only uses a single processor core, and that is hard-coded into the game and can't be modded. This is why even ultra-high performance modern gaming rigs can still struggle on larger maps or with the highest graphics settings, even though the game itself is literally old enough to vote by now. Altering the code to utilize the features of more modern processors would be a godsend, and would drastically improve gameplay experience and late-game lag. Another frustrating issue (which is also hard-coded in and un-moddable) is the inability of the player to issue movement orders while the game is paused. While the AI is pretty stupid (which is, itself, another thing that needs more fixing than mods are really capable of), this gives it a huge advantage, because in the time it takes the player to issue a single move order, the AI can re-deploy its entire fleet simultaneously. Giving the player the ability to set up movement orders while paused would level this playing field, and reduce the instances of your plans failing due to timing screw-ups. Basically, what I want is Thrawn's Revenge, but with better graphics, smarter AI, Better ground battles, and the above issues fixed. That would take a sequel to accomplish. The problem is that in all likelihood, any studio that develops a sequel is not going to be content with such minimal changes. They are likely going to want to completely rework the game, and I have exactly zero trust in the quality of any official Star Wars project since the Disney buyout.
@newatlantisrepublic6844
@newatlantisrepublic6844 Жыл бұрын
I'd say new players play through Vanilla and if you want more after that then give it a go
@nonyabisness6306
@nonyabisness6306 5 ай бұрын
i think you underestimate what a modern UI and some code updates could do for the game. EaW2 would absolutly be fantastic.
@HinokasArabfan1
@HinokasArabfan1 Жыл бұрын
Heyyyy. My recommendations are taken into consideration.
@princeimrahil6557
@princeimrahil6557 Жыл бұрын
It's brilliant, but dang, if I cant play it smoothly with 64 gigs of RAM and an RTX 3080, who can?
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
no one :P engine limitations!
@gerryw173ify
@gerryw173ify 7 ай бұрын
My major gripe was the new resource management systems which made me disinterested. Wish they had a version with the vanilla economy.
@crispymattastic
@crispymattastic Жыл бұрын
Want to play EAW again but I cant get it to run properly.
@trazyntheinfinite9895
@trazyntheinfinite9895 7 ай бұрын
Sllence, new engine for modders to work with might be a boon
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 6 ай бұрын
I hope so!
@martindejonge695
@martindejonge695 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy conquest modes and Empire At War for me did it better than Kane's Wrath. Universe At War though was the top dog in this category for me
@martaduran6257
@martaduran6257 Жыл бұрын
So anyone can tell me where i can get v.3.2 for GOG, because i can only find it in Steam and nowhere else.
@williamhornabrook8081
@williamhornabrook8081 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the best Empire at War mod.
@Sunnysideanyway
@Sunnysideanyway Жыл бұрын
Thrawn's Revenge is really good but I prefer Awakening of The Rebellion. It is a significantly harder mod to get into, but it expands upon many features that Thrawn's Revenge seems to scrap. TR feels like a different game where AoTR feels like a remake of the same game. Not only that, but the land battles are actually really fun and as fun as the space battles are. Edit: Jeez AOTR fans really like to crap on Thrawn's Revenge lol
@kadenstimpson3167
@kadenstimpson3167 Жыл бұрын
I really love AOTR, but the EAWX ecosystem (Thrawns revenge, fall of the republic, future mods like revan's revenge) has a lot more variety and lacks some of the jank that Awakening tends to have. also, long live the black sun
@Sunnysideanyway
@Sunnysideanyway Жыл бұрын
@@kadenstimpson3167 Nothing in AOTR is as janky as the movement. Oh my God it is so frustrating sometimes to have a unit move where you want it to move, especially in space.
@CEOofAutism
@CEOofAutism Жыл бұрын
@@Sunnysideanyway cnc based
@ZyklonBeast12
@ZyklonBeast12 8 ай бұрын
Should I mod it for my first playthough? Not sure if the mods change vanilla game a lot or add to it to make it more playable in 2023
@Sunnysideanyway
@Sunnysideanyway 8 ай бұрын
@@ZyklonBeast12 The mods change the game quite a lot. Especially AOTR. It wouldn't hurt to play the base game first to just know the fundamentals of the game mechanics but you really don't need to to play mods like TR or AOTR.
@anthonycernik6548
@anthonycernik6548 Жыл бұрын
You need to do one for awakening of the rebellion and empire at war remake there all so good
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
both done already! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nqucnrdzms-RdIU.html&t kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pJ9jktinr5mrZoU.html&t
@ummidontknowjustsomerandom7405
@ummidontknowjustsomerandom7405 Жыл бұрын
For some reason when I buy ships my credits at the top of my screen dont go down
@ryanpercival9823
@ryanpercival9823 8 ай бұрын
... I was watching this on my second screen while I played and feel personally attacked.
@CollectorFreak1
@CollectorFreak1 Жыл бұрын
Is this better than the remake? Remake doesnt have ground battles still
@GOLANX
@GOLANX Жыл бұрын
Hey you should pick up the New game Silica and give it a review. While it is very much early access its really fun and throws an extra curveball with the FPS players. The AI are particularly bad right now, even though I very much usually hate multi-player I was able to jump in and have a blast.
@harriskorbin9470
@harriskorbin9470 Жыл бұрын
wish somone would make a clone wars mod other than fall of the repblic
@LordParcyval
@LordParcyval 8 ай бұрын
I am working on it anyway :)
@thatgamingtitan
@thatgamingtitan Жыл бұрын
"Spicy triangles"
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
🔺🔥
@stevehamilton5658
@stevehamilton5658 Жыл бұрын
Hapes like grapes
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
excellent thank you
@harveybirdman2674
@harveybirdman2674 Жыл бұрын
Revinge sounds much biter
@jimnicholas7334
@jimnicholas7334 Жыл бұрын
And mods you'd recommend for a sorta newbie who has a lot of trouble adapting to the jank of the base game? xD
@MrFearlesskiller
@MrFearlesskiller Күн бұрын
The game is almost 20 years old. It is necessary.
@ImprovedCameraman
@ImprovedCameraman Жыл бұрын
Well the map will take while to be finished (literally)
@TheOnlyMonroni
@TheOnlyMonroni 10 ай бұрын
Do you have any idea how much duct tape and prayers hold together the Petroglyph engine? Just updating the engine would be a fraction of what was pissed away for either of the most recent Battlefronts. But hey, a trillion dollar industry should rely on free labor to make a good Star Wars game.
@user-fu3uk7vm9c
@user-fu3uk7vm9c 9 ай бұрын
Anything multiplayer is extremely unstable especially when mods come into the question.
@stormtrooper2466
@stormtrooper2466 Жыл бұрын
My version of instant action works fine, I have no idea why yours is breaking. I also have no idea how it works.
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
hmm, yeah unsure either. hopefully next patch fixes!
@noblevi3623
@noblevi3623 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if its just me, but I've tried a lot of EaW mods and found all them to just be too damn hard. I always get overwhelmed by the AI and never have enough resources to fight them off. What am I doing wrong?
@ethanforster
@ethanforster Жыл бұрын
Try watching a playthrough of the mod by some like TheXPGamers, you just need to learn more about how to play and what decisions to make early on
@Typo350
@Typo350 Жыл бұрын
For skirmish, need to be more aggressive early game and get out into the map to secure mining stations, try not to float a bunch of credits (always be training units or upgrading something, the AI will be). Galactic conquest is a lot more in depth and dependent on faction, soI recommend a guide for that.
@williamhornabrook8081
@williamhornabrook8081 Жыл бұрын
The campaigns or the skirmishes? In the campaign, the key I've found is to get a corner of the galaxy controlled so you can only be attached from a few directions.
@Sunnysideanyway
@Sunnysideanyway Жыл бұрын
Play more offensively rather than defensively and always look for opportunities for easy wins, especially against enemy space stations that might be poorly defended.
@StartingTimer
@StartingTimer 7 ай бұрын
I only play multiplayer and the constant unrecoverable desyncs are too much
@frankieperson1275
@frankieperson1275 Жыл бұрын
Is there an empire at war mod that doesnt completely rework the game? Like standard empire at war but with more maps and ships etc?
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
empire at war remake might be your best bet, though even then it's quite significant
@frankieperson1275
@frankieperson1275 Жыл бұрын
@@Zade_95 Ah kk i was already playing that and vanilla so ill guess ill stay to that.
@mhiv466
@mhiv466 Жыл бұрын
Haven't played thawn but am playing fall of the republic which I'm addicted to bec I perfer the prequel era but the ai is cheap af. It invaded one of my planets with at least 20x cis gunships and another time with 15x artillery cannons. Wish it would chill ans let me win. Space wise it just spams lucahulks so it's slow going atm
@scrapinator8910
@scrapinator8910 Жыл бұрын
This game, barring land battles, is still fantastic.
@isaiahwilliams9413
@isaiahwilliams9413 Жыл бұрын
so when the triple a devs make empire at war 2, will it be better than these EAW mods?
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
i hope we will see oneday!
@tkrice4789
@tkrice4789 Жыл бұрын
I like the variety of this mod I just wish they would do their battles like AOTR does. This just feels too meh for me
@SiggiGumma
@SiggiGumma Жыл бұрын
how did you know my name is Tom!!
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
i know these things!
@blackburn1489
@blackburn1489 Жыл бұрын
I love Galactic map gameplay of this mod, but battles gameplay is to arcady for me: there is no strategy and tacticks - just bring more units then your opponent - and u win. Battles just suck. I prefer battles in other mod - AotR - because every unit you bring on the battlefield - matters
@swoop2kills596
@swoop2kills596 11 ай бұрын
I keep trying to play this mod and instantly get fuked and most my planets get taken within 20mins 💀
@iycephoenixx4249
@iycephoenixx4249 9 ай бұрын
I always read Hapes as vapes
@Erikness123
@Erikness123 6 ай бұрын
every call of duty is unnecessary, a empire at war 2 ist very very much necessary
@badrhetoric5637
@badrhetoric5637 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry, it's typically not an engine problem, modders aren't great at optimization and tend to leave redundant elements like hidden textures in.
@wojtek561
@wojtek561 Жыл бұрын
It is engine problem, Alamo engine that was used to create Empire at War use only one core. We are condemned to a cool game for which cool mods are created, which, unfortunately, due to the technological limitations of the times when it was created, works only on one core. That's why people who have well overclocked CPU have more FPS and those who have many cores but low clocks complain about the lack of FPS.
@nathanskeen5865
@nathanskeen5865 Жыл бұрын
Awakening of the Rebellion is an insanely good mod, you should play it if you haven’t already. Probably the easiest but fully fleshed out modded Empire at War to get into
@angry_eck
@angry_eck Жыл бұрын
its so fuckign bad what do people see in it its got a decent ground battle but production and space battles are so fucking shit
@MrANTICRAZY
@MrANTICRAZY Жыл бұрын
H-apes, not herpes.
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
not herpes roger that
@LuiDeca
@LuiDeca 7 ай бұрын
a LOT of games where you see people online asking for sequels, remakes, remasters etc etc etc, really don't need them. if the base games are already good and have a thriving modding community, you really don't need disney ruining them. typical consoomers desperately wanting a new thing when "new" doesn't mean better.
@clifford27
@clifford27 Жыл бұрын
first
@Zade_95
@Zade_95 Жыл бұрын
1
@mkaterr
@mkaterr 7 ай бұрын
Nah, it needs a new release. The engine is way too old and even the remake thst is amazing can't make the game feel like stellaris or some modern space strategy games. It needs more difficulty and more complexity to the overall mechanics, and it needs to fix the space battles and SPECIALLY the shitty unfixable ground battles. The mods are amazing, but its time to have a new SWEW.
@Ic3q4
@Ic3q4 6 ай бұрын
ngl i hate the era system
@alexanerose4820
@alexanerose4820 11 ай бұрын
Thrawns revenge the most well known? I thought that title went to Republic At War Still, to answer the title: *DESPERATELY YES* . At the very least, we need a new engine and if a remaster was nothing more then just porting the game into a modern modable engine without changing a single thing then that would still be enough for a re-buy
@bananacabana2817
@bananacabana2817 Жыл бұрын
nah i think AOTR is better
@commanderwookiecopc806
@commanderwookiecopc806 Жыл бұрын
AOTR is better
@mitchellpalacio5069
@mitchellpalacio5069 Жыл бұрын
Cool story man, wish I could hear more
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