A journey through China and India, an exploration into the last remaining strongholds of operational steam trains anywhere in the world.
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@ZAV19446 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to lie, I almost wept near the end of this documentary. The Steam Locomotive is by far one of the most beautiful and majestic pieces of machinery and to see them be butchered in such a way is saddening.
@Mr.RailYard-LJLRailYard4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best steam locomotive documentaries ever
@scruffyzejanitor3 жыл бұрын
You seen And then there was one?
@gordonilaoa12752 жыл бұрын
@@scruffyzejanitor the best steam locomotive documentary ever.
@eddie1007 жыл бұрын
My fascination with steam power, ancient architecture, and even older peoples; made this one of the best documentary's I've seen, for a long while. There isn't any cutting to and fro, from someone who want's to be on camera. Thanks to the movie maker, and thanks to the up loader. Video quality is great, and I don't mind the English sub-titles. I'm a getting old too.
@cyruslovesindia8 жыл бұрын
The last Broad Gauge Steam Mainline service in India stopped in 1995 and Metre Gauge in 2000. There are however a very few narrow and heritage metre gauge steam loco trains still in service. A few broad gauge locos which survived the scrapping are made to run on certain days of the year. The Fairy Queen loco is a famous loco in India which is supposed to be one of the oldest locos in the world still in operational condition!
@andrewboyd80738 жыл бұрын
The end made my on the verge of tears. It was that beautiful.
@eddie1007 жыл бұрын
I did cry, a little. Slow rolling tears down and over my face, cheeks and into my lap. Give thanks to the past and bring on a new day.
@davemahoney7317 жыл бұрын
magnificent record of not only the engines but those whom they serve , and unusually, a very knowledgable narrator
@LNERA310 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this. Amazing footage!
@kyankoh29916 жыл бұрын
It's always nice to see old steam locomotives back at work instead of just sitting in mueseums don't you think?
@williamou4175 жыл бұрын
Depends
@stosh643 жыл бұрын
@@williamou417 Agreed! Great to see for an occasional nostalgic run, but to use these polluters in every day industrial use is criminal in this day and age.
@djlayland7 жыл бұрын
this is the documentary that sold me on going to China in 2004!
@stosh643 жыл бұрын
Enjoy the smog, it's epic in the CCP
@tomrogers94673 жыл бұрын
@@stosh64 And a free dose of ‘Kung Flu” too!
@paulhoare918410 жыл бұрын
Good to see some steam operations from other country's. Thankyou!
@wmden13 жыл бұрын
Very interesting documentary and great camera work. The beautiful scenery and cinematography create a really artful production that is a great pleasure to watch, and shows great subject matter.
@fritzrue9 жыл бұрын
What a great documentary!
@DarqeDestroyer6 жыл бұрын
Most of our energy still comes from steam. Whether it's coal, oil, gas, or nuclear, in all involves using heat to boil water and make the pressure of expanding steam do the work. Even some solar power installations, those using the solar-thermal method, still involves boiling water and making the steam drive the generators. About the only energy sources that don't involve steam are hydro, wind, and photovoltaic solar, and those make up a minority of the total production, for now at least.
@tom76016 жыл бұрын
A pundit once said "The sun never sets on the British Empire." Another pundit retorted, "That's because God doesn't trust them in the dark."
@tom76016 жыл бұрын
Most interesting; thank you.
@alexandrecosta80248 жыл бұрын
very nice documentary
@lytken9 жыл бұрын
really good film thanks for sharing it
@qingylu9 жыл бұрын
Just an update here, the Jining-Tongliao railway in Northeast China mentioned in this video decommissioned its last steam locomotive in 2005.
@srfurley8 жыл бұрын
He said that steam cranes were very rare, but I saw one working in New York City several years after this film was made.
@1958plymouth440V88 жыл бұрын
Doesn't mean they aren't rare, especially considering the one in China was still in regular operational use rather than being preserved.
@dansshop9 жыл бұрын
Yay! that was awesome.
@matthewpowell242911 ай бұрын
Seeing a steam locomotive scrapped is one of the saddest sights I've ever seen. China and India were lucky to have held on to steam for as long as they did. I wish we in the United States saw their full worth too.
@mtb41610 жыл бұрын
Very cool.
@kenreeve65492 жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable thank you
@timothy__tt7 жыл бұрын
Do you have an unsubtitled version of the video file?
@alokbhandari22432 жыл бұрын
I am nostalgic about these trains
@mickcarson850410 жыл бұрын
Interesting to know that China still operates steam trains. I always liked steam more than diesel trains. As I kid I had the opportunity to touch one, until it hissed and gave me the fright of my life. But I have always liked them. We have a restored tourist steam train here.
@gstarny10 жыл бұрын
sorry to let you know that this documentary was more than 20 yrs old, there is no more steam locomotive in china
@yankumar52809 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing Tedrick Leong
@johnsamu9 жыл бұрын
Interesting but very old movie 10-20 years old. I never see steam trains anymore when in China. I only see lots of new cars and (high speed) trains
@raymondj87688 жыл бұрын
+johnsamu someone said this was made in 99 dude.
@rolandofarrington77956 жыл бұрын
I used to say you could go to China or India and buy a brand new steam locomotive, but sadly, I guess I can't anymore, the fire breathing dragons have all finally gone extinct.
@leeknivek9 жыл бұрын
"loaded with 15 tons of coal ... goes 200 miles" they say that like it's bad. you can buy a ton of coal in the states for $100, I can't imagine how cheap it is in China. $1500 to move, like, 100+ tons, minimum, of freight 200 miles is amazing. how much would that cost in diesel to truck it? or even a diesel locomotive?
@mmi169 жыл бұрын
+Kevin Keel - CSX advertisements are claiming 498 ton miles/gallon of diesel.
@raymondj87688 жыл бұрын
+mmi16 thats cause the engins dont pull they just run low rpm to make electricity for wheel motors hence deisel electric
@itsjustnopinionok7 жыл бұрын
@29:23... 50 deaths a day in India? im sure from the videos i've seen. a good number of them are of thrill seekers/train surfers. That has to be a world high death rate. i think the rate in the USA is 3 deaths by rail a day.
@wyndhamcoffman89618 жыл бұрын
Really it's a double edged sword; loosing the the steam engine is a big blow to our heritage everywhere, but if we keep them the prospects could be disastrous in the face of growth. Well not many people think about it, an electric locomotive is a miracle on rails; little or no emissions, long intervals between maintenance stops, virtually unlimited range, and around 85-99% thermal efficiency, compared to 30% for steam, and 45% for diesels. However even with modern day technology it would be good to run a few slower passenger excursions behind a steam engine to remind everyone where we came from, and hopefully show why we don't do this anymore. But don't get me wrong these machines were great for what they could do, and they absolutely deserve better then to get cut up for scrap; even static displays are low bar. But the absolute truth is that we need to encourage more industries to move fright by rail then by long distance truck.
@tedehrhard92288 жыл бұрын
*losing. As for electric locomotives, "little or no emissions", except from the coal-fired generating plants that make them go; "virtually unlimited range", unless there's no overhead power line. "Thermal efficiency?" In an electric locomotive? The quoted figure is the efficiency of electric motors' converting electricity into mechanical energy; thermal efficiency in coal-fired power stations is 35% at the most. Thermal efficiency for internal-combustion engines is in the 20% range; for steam it's about 8%. I agree with the rest of the sentiments, but please, let's be accurate about the technical details!
@MrCWH58 жыл бұрын
Glad I read your comment before replying almost the exact same thing.
@wyndhamcoffman89618 жыл бұрын
I generally only quote the efficiency of the motors themselves, because It's incredibly shortsighted to assume we will be always use coal fired pants to generate electricity. In fact the original push for general purpose electric locomotives actually came from Sweden; where power generated from hydro electricity was so cheap that some companies just retrofitted an electric heater to the steam engines, until they could afford new locomotives. Then of course there is this world wide push for renewable power generation, which would make electric everything (Locomotives included) seem more practical. And even countries that use fossil fuel power would see benefits from the economies of large scale production. Not every locomotive on every line would operate under load (An electric motor only draws power according to what it uses, where as an idling diesel locomotive uses 30 liters of fuel every minute.); so effectively you could scale energy production for the few that are taking off; and a train going downhill could send power back into the lines. And really I’ve heard these arguments about efficiency so many times; they don’t ever take into account the sheer scale of operations, and the hundreds of engines that are effectively idling, or even the fact that every countries’ diesel locomotives (Germany excluded) have there engines set up to run a generator to power motors in the wheels. But if you must know your figure is correct under fully loaded, ideal conditions; but conditions are rarely ideal. Also the internal combustion engine's thermal efficiency is closer to 15% for an Otto engine, and 45% for a big diesel. (But remember with hundreds of engines running independently that leads to only 15-30% utilized energy, compounding that 45% thermal efficiency.)
@Tom-Lahaye8 жыл бұрын
The use of electricity to heat the water on a steam locomotive was no common practice, and it wasn't in Sweden where this was done. It was done in Switzerland, where the railways had been electrified very early, also because of having plenty possibilities for hydro-electric power schemes. Most mainline operations were electric by 1925, but a lot of the shunting was done by small 0-6-0 tank engines. Switzerland stayed neutral during the second world war, but they couldn't import coal during the conflict. As Switzerland has no fosil fuels at all, they decided to put a pantograph and electrical heaters on these loco's. The heaters were powered trough a transformer reducing the 15Kv form the overhead wires to a mere 7 volts, that made it possible to run the heater coils without insulation, as the conductivity of pure mountain water is low enough to prevent shorts at that voltage (and even when it does it adds to the heating proces) It was applied to a small number of locomotives and after the war ended the equipment was removed (the boilers themselves were unaltered and kept their coal firing possibility) More common were diesel/electric hybrids, which could run fed of overhead wires or third rail with electricity, and the diesel engine kicking in when leaving the electrified part of the network. Currently there are even new builds for the UK, the class 88.
@wyndhamcoffman89618 жыл бұрын
You’re right I keep mixing up those two countries for some reason. However it proves my point about electricity. They had only a little reserve of coal, but they could still generate electric power locally and cheap enough to get through the war. (This was a challenge for any country even if they did have coal mines.) Also the Swiss Modernization Program started electrification in 1888, but wasn’t finished until the 1960’s. It makes perfect sense to have a steam locomotives shunting cars into the non-electrified branches. And it’s the same logic for Dual Mode Locomotives; the Class 88’s power output is 4000Kw for electric traction and 700Kw for diesel traction respectively, the diesel engine is mostly used for shunting in this case. And that 700Kw figure is a far cry from American Diesel Road Switchers which are usually in the 3300Kw range.
@Benry29 жыл бұрын
This is kind of sad to say the least.
@seba813767 жыл бұрын
India still has steam locos working
@alexpowers36978 жыл бұрын
Poland still runs steam commuters and freight because they have a lot of coal.
@ericlakota65124 жыл бұрын
Those qjs are gorgious like he sead Marcellus car given to a living machean
@thomaswang11189 жыл бұрын
what about big boy or challenger??
@jimjardine47058 жыл бұрын
+Walter Wang Yes, I thought of that! Maybe a benefactor from the U.S. would loan them one!
@raymondj87688 жыл бұрын
+Thomas Wang what about thomas ding ding lol
@achmadsyifapapahnyareyhan86744 жыл бұрын
I wish i was born at the steam era....
@dylanruppert45479 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't mind working around a steam engine in 40 below weather lol
@jsmoove5927 жыл бұрын
Dylan Ruppert well i would drive a steam loco if it was always cold
@longlat398 жыл бұрын
What's the point of having English subtitles if the narration is in English?
@1958plymouth440V88 жыл бұрын
+longlat39 Because some people might not hear properly? Duh.
@cracked_walnut8 жыл бұрын
Because people who love trains might go deaf being near them all the time...
@jusb10668 жыл бұрын
the guy sounded like hed had a stroke, all that slow talking...ugh
@oscillation98148 жыл бұрын
If you can't quite understand him, ;)
@itsjustnopinionok7 жыл бұрын
for the people who cant hear.
@shawnburnham16 жыл бұрын
35-40
@ericlakota65124 жыл бұрын
They burn coal but have no cars so i sopose its probly cleaner air still
@girishbasarkar27252 жыл бұрын
29:22
@redtheman3028 жыл бұрын
i LOVE STEAM LOCOMOTIVES!!!!! There is no reason as to why they cannot be used. I would personally pay extra money on sales and services tax to have my goods shipped by steam engine. I think there wonderful and beautiful things. They should not be discarded and melted down. Allow them to work and be awesome. There is nothing like the chuff an puff coming off a steam loco as it thunders by you bellowing out steam and smoke, shaking the ground, shaking you, the rails groan and strain but they hold There is nothing like a steam loco.
@markgouthro73758 жыл бұрын
+Red Theman There's a HUGE number of reasons not to use steam engines. Very energy inefficient, require 10x more maintenance than diesel, and HORRIBLE for the environment.
@carbonfiber19958 жыл бұрын
+Mark Gouthro you know that diesel locomotives produce far more emissions than steam engines.
@markgouthro73758 жыл бұрын
Audiking cadillac you know that your comment is completely wrong. Diesel engines extract 25% of the energy from burning fuel, steam engines only extract 5%. www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2013/05/11/history/post-perspective/locomotive-diesel-engine.html
@jimjardine47058 жыл бұрын
+Red Theman My wife and I agree!
@raymondj87688 жыл бұрын
+Jim Jardine did she tell you to say that hahaha just kidding bro couldent help it dude
@ethanhunt22635 жыл бұрын
Thomas the tank engine
@craigpayne55006 жыл бұрын
How can we turn the subtitles off? They are too distracting
@thebeaniestbeanboys57355 жыл бұрын
Why did you post this when I know by yo profile pic you a fellow weeb
@kanelimburg916710 жыл бұрын
hiro in Thomas and friends
@NWR199110 жыл бұрын
Hiro's Japanese this documentary is about steam locomotives in China and India and Japan and those two countries are VERY different towards each other.
@keithtanner28062 жыл бұрын
This would be far better without the "music" or the florid commentary.
@dedasdude9 жыл бұрын
they make it sound like the indian railways is so poor. even back then indian railways is one of the most profitable and efficient. we have 6600bhp electric traction locos being used for most things. and here they say we cannot afford diesel technicians, bollocks.
@silver7609 жыл бұрын
India's railways may well make a profit,but they certainly don't seem too willing to spend it on locomotives,rolling stock or the infrastructure! A considerable amount of their loco's and rolling stock are what the British left behind and the rest are mainly UK throwaways exported to India post independence.Mind you a new loco and a rake of brand new,well appointed carriages,would be wrecked within a week running on Indian lines.Their interiors trashed (mainly by the passengers goats) and the paint job ruined by people scrambling to get on the roof!Speed would have to be restricted from 125mph to 20 so those riding on top don't blow off and so that the driver will be able to stop for cows,people,carts etc on the line and for broken track!Therefore it would be rather pointless to invest in modern equipment. I should imagine somewhere in india there must be a massive loco yard where those loco's too far gone to ever be repaired are stored to be picked clean for their parts as required.
@connarcomstock1619 жыл бұрын
silver760 Wut. Just...Wut. INR builds most of their own Diesels domestically, has done for years, they're based on old Alco gear iirc. Their modern stuff runs EMD 710 engines, which the US has been using ( and still does btw ) for YEARS. To be blunt, you're basically incorrect about literally everything you just said. Go get educated, learn about how INR works and some of it's engineering feats ( Monsoon Railway for one ), and just how modern it is. You don't run a profitable rail network in a country with 1.2 Billion people by accident, you fuckstick. The groundwork was laid by the Britts, yes, but the Indians took their idea of rail transport and ran with it, moreover, there's a LOT we here in N.America can learn from them. Goddamnit...I swear to god, youtube comments get more and more retarded by the fucking day.
@silver7609 жыл бұрын
Connar Comstock I take it you haven't actually seen Indian railways then? Sure they have a handful of less that 20 year old locos and a couple of half decent carriages for long haul and some intercity trips.Aside from those the rest of the system is just like the rest of India,atrocious! They are still using allot of Metropolitan Vickers equipment that was supplied before WW2 and in the 50's Do you have ANY idea what suburban and rural Imdia is like? I don't know what you have read on paper but india is a third word country.Sure there are the odd bits here and there where you could be mistaken for it being "modern" but the VAST majority of India is slums and poverty.I suggest you type "Indian Railways" into google and just look at the photo's,nuff said!
@howdafkshdino89029 жыл бұрын
sayan das Filmography has been both a blessing and of course the greatest propagandizing weapon ever thought of.Some ppl are more dangerous than others, a terrible fact that I`m working on by being the opposite
@raymondj87688 жыл бұрын
+Brad Johnson so there just little backup bitches hahaha
@miriammuba9 жыл бұрын
El yuyuyyyúut
@theskip17 жыл бұрын
again no mention of britain who gave the world the locomotive
@SpencerHHO7 жыл бұрын
theskip1 did you even watch it? Britain was mentioned multiple times as the one who originally built many of the railways shown. Idiot.
@chadsimmons63476 жыл бұрын
Briton has no place in the modern future..its a welfare state full of fat lazy people , with bad teeth..going broke!
@markmessa58886 жыл бұрын
200t locomotive carrying only 10 wagons. What a *waste* !!!!!
@dennisleslie89622 жыл бұрын
The narrator keeps on calling locomotives "trains". That kind of ignorance/stupidity devalues the video.
@rothsuede6 жыл бұрын
Mega polluters .
@briansmith58953 жыл бұрын
who wrote this? when it's poet time, let me know,,,,, that was terrible