they really dug up bubble titan just to spit on it one last time

thank you for the insight, here a quick summary of the video: well is completely dead aegis now suggest to always run dawnblade when running solar warlock

Ah yes my speedrunner opinion has arrived

Stroking my hog to this one‼️ Keep up the good work‼️

Bubble should have kept the weapons of light so it could at least be viable compared to well. Its so incredibly bad to force an exotic for weapons just for it to still be a significantly worse well

13:43 I believe the Renewal Grasps change is 100% a buff. You are able to take the resist outside of the range of the duskfield now, and it lasts for a long time. You just have to use it as more of a prep tool instead of a panic tool. Stasis hunters got the JUICE with this update.

I really appreciate these long in-depth videos, it’s content I feel like I’ve always not had enough of, so thanks for the great vid

This was the best summary of the changes and why each matters. Thank you for not just reading the blog word for word. Love your insights.

With the new article, Ballidorse Wrathweavers giving 36% dr on rift makes it lowkey a contender with stag. Maybe having a wellock switch to be a stasis lock to give everyone dr in the well basically just like it was pre-patch isn't entirely a throw.

Great understandable analysis on the buffs and nerfs.👍

I never run well. I don’t like running solar. But, Mmm The mech in Zero Hour Master will kill you just with the overhead bombardment. You could definitely die in a well in Master+, you couldn’t just tank anything. Esp when there’s a laundry list of negative modifiers And your power lvl is limited. It wasn’t the fault of Well, it was the fault of how you designed the boss encounter. The same way, “Must have Gjallarhorn” was not the fault of Gjallarhorn, it was the design of the Skolas encounter that created the phenomenon. Hardly anybody could beat the encounter until Solar Burn week, with Gjallarhorn. Runs were going 5, 7, 10 hours and people just gave up. I remember it vividly…. Instead of fixing the design issues around bosses - they sunset the gun entirely from the franchise. Until it was time to sell it back. Yeah. They blamed Gjallarhorn too. But As long as you design raid or dungeon encounters to be the way they are… well is not the problem. Esp if you’re going to surround me with infinitely spawning snipers, while doing a DPS check with an exposed crit spot on a stationary boss that will insta-wipe the team. See: RHULK and Wrath of the Machine >>> ACTION based raid design with Movement is the solution. You cannot afford to sit still. But like 85% of encounters it’s designed to create the so-called problem. Nerfing well doesn’t change the logical solution for how you designed the activities

Thanks for the numbers. Crying in my bubble. 😭

Thanks my man, you did all I wanted in a video explaining the changes.

I prefer bungie telling us all the nerfs and changes weeks before TFS drops, it allows for all the upsetness to dissipate by the time the expansion drops. I still remember all the rage when the day before lightfall dropped, an article was released with all the nerfs and people were MAD.

Excellent review and a level headed analysis of the last update. Love it!

Just to dash any hopes of a buff for Howl of the Storm. Stasis crystals have a base shatter damage of 150, and Bungie explicitly said that those weren't getting an adjustment. As far as I've been able to test it's not possible to get enemy shatters (previously base 200 damage, now base 400) to inherit the buffs from the source of the Freeze status effect, and the only way to buff enemy shatter damage outside of Whisper of Fissures that I've found is to use the Warlock super. So Howl of the Storm, while creating stasis crystals that count as melee damage because crystals do inherit the properties of their source, won't be seeing any direct buffs. What will be nice for Howl of the Storm, however, is that the crystals will now automatically detonate themselves when a player shatters a frozen enemy near them. It previously required two enemies shattering near a crystal for the crystal to break, but with the base damage of enemy shatters now being doubled it should be possible to use a single frozen enemy to shatter everything at once. I'm also kind of banking on the improved shatter damage helping out Lance Cap builds a bunch as well. With the Lance Cap being able to make three crystals on champions and bosses I'm expecting the exotic's added damage to be much more accessible since shattering the affected champion or boss should break all of the crystals without any additional attention needed. After all, 400 base damage from the enemy and 3x150 base damage from all of the crystals will match an Ignition in terms of damage, and this can be improved with fragments. I doubt it'll make a Lance Cap build especially good at boss dps or anything, but it will be pretty nice for general neutral game potency in GMs and such.

Thank you for clarifying the grapple point nerf; I had misunderstood it and thought Bungie had murdered Strand Hunters in their eagerness to nerf the grapple 1-2 melee combo

Thank God my opinion dropped

I’m so glad stasis Hunter is going to feel better to use with these stasis buffs

Yay new vid Hope for one talks about armor mods and their potency

it amazes me that people like you spend all this time on theory crafting and mathematical predeterminations pre-patches. you deserve a subscribe bro. you're mentally insane.

hope you’re having a good day aegis

Clarification: gaining Frost Armor after picking up Stasis shards is an effect of each classes' Harvest aspect. The only other ways to gain Frost Armor are from the reworked Whisper of Fractures or from Exotic Armor.

one more thing regarding the grapple point lingering cooldown: after the 35 something seconds you can guarantee a contingency plan by just spawning another grapple point with the navigator again, which by that time has the cooldown for creating a grapple point run out. or if you're keen on using a hunter for the grapple point creation i am certain you can have a full grapple back by that time too.

Small take away from the St.14 Helm is maybe you'll be able to get WoL from Edge of Action bubble. Which is cool. I guess. Definitely shooting for a Stag + Star Eater scale class item on warlock with the well changes. Run a dps super and still be able to support with healing rift and DR.

Love the stasis changes. Wicked Implement is a lot more enticing now that it grants DR

Sleeper build imo is running reworked helm of saint with edge of action. If mini bubble benefits from any of the changes made to ward then youd get all of the defensive benefits without having to swap out a damage super or heavy weapon and with helm you'd get WoL virtually on command

Aegis coming back with consistent SAUCE

Tempest strike and Lighting surge also avaliable in new class. So that could be some potential build in future.

4:53 you hit the nail exactly on the head. Well can't be replaced. The closest you can get is stacking multiple different things. The biggest factor in convincing me how bad Well was for the game was realizing that, for a while there, the Titan exotic glaive had a better Bubble than actually running the super, and most raid bosses you're better off running Tractor Cannon than Tether, but it's impossible to come up with an idea for an exotic weapon that singlehandedly does Well's job better without being clearly overpowered. Something like that would be a worse "must have or throwing" exotic than Divinity, Gjallarhorn, and Anarchy in all their strongest iterations combined.

I'm split between thinking these changes are good or bad. On one hand, bubble is now completely useless in every encounter in the game without helm but on the other hand, the stasis changes sounds like stasis will -cook- freeze real hard.

For something more difficult where you’d wanna use a well still, you could have a renewal grasp hunter throw a disk field in the well to get more resistance going

Nothing like watching a new aegis on my break

with bubble giving overshield while standing next to it, I could see some day one teams use both if they’re having trouble surviving in a well during damage. maybe with the ursa change of unbreakable giving super and then a swap to s14 before damage but why run that when banner of war’s healing remains basically untouched, woven mail gives the same dr for the same price of a tangle, and things like heal clip or the new support auto rifle can give healing on any subclass

Balidorse wrath weavers might be really good for boss phases, as you get 1. allies full stacks of frost armor 2. damage buff to super 3. yours + allies damage buff to stasis weapons

it should be noted that the shatter damage increase only applies to frozen targets and not crystals (the way you explained sounds like its both and the examples of how it might effect builds also gives off this idea).

that wisper or reversal is interesting, if it works w hunter melee and is 60+ stacks in pve, it will freeze in a single shuriken, and to have it freeze enemies in pve without the need to use both charges is something ive been wanting for a pretty long time

My bro thank you for the consistency 😮 Hope you are having a fantastic day!

Frost Armor can be placed on your team....that is why it is 36% max cause you can give 13 sec to the team and then they just need to touch your DFall and get it back

What’s an important thing to mention is I think that double shatter bug is only one the automatic shatter. I’ll need to double check I’m pretty sure against bosses you are actively damaging this is a buff as your doing enough damage that’s activating shatter early.

I feel like the stasis changes won’t end up moving the needle much, probably will just end up with you being mildly more survivable than before. Maybe new supers/abilities would breathe more life into stasis if they ever revisit the subclass after this.

Thanks for the vid. The only thing I have to add is the comment about the double shatters on frozen bosses. It doesn't seem to always happen; I'm assuming that means damage can sometimes breaks bosses out before they automatically break out. So the removal of the double shatter and doubling of shatter damage should just make shatter damage vs bosses more consistent. Not that this matters that much, I just find it interesting.

In the new armor thing today they said it is maximum stacks from Ballidorse's which is pretty nice.

I wonder if renewal grasps will sort of replace the DR well lost , since it’s the only way to give easily accessible frost armor to everyone. Lucky pants also didn’t catch a nerf, so revenant might actually be in a pretty good place. Still wish it could have gotten more but that’s just me. Maybe they’ll drop a busted revenant exotic one day.

Can't get enough of your level-headed and intelligent opinions on these changes. You're rapidly becoming my go-to channel for everything Destiny.

HOIL is still one of my favourite things to use on Arc Titan, Thruster and Thunderclap work great with it because of the short activation times so I'm glad to see the buffs to TClap and Knockout. Speaking of which, very much looking forward to KO/Consecration/Frenzied Blade on Prismatic Titan. Come on and slam and welcome to the jam. Lightweight Knife buff is great but it's a shame it doesn't work with Ophidia Spathe. I'm glad they acknowledged it instead of letting people find out the hard way, but I'm too set in my ways with Knife Trick and might find it hard to switch. I hope it does end up getting synergy in the end, three knives would be *very* attractive. _(Psst it should work with Withering Blade too.)_

I think for the lightning surge part, it mostly aims for prismatic subclass I feel. Prismatic can get insane uptime with melee charge with the help of fragment giving them melee energy with rapid light kills and using arcane needle. This gives them flexibility of diving into group of adds and killing them or being ranged using arcane needle. And they can have the sustain and durability when pairing with devour aspects and using repulser brace or fragment that gives them woven mail/void shield. Arclock should just be relegated to rift and electrostatic mind spam. Whereas Lightning surge in PvE can be better utilize with Prismatic subclass.

i crank my hog to aegis’ sandbox breakdowns every morning on the way to work. Steering wheel in one hand and in the other, i’m edging my transit til i cascade point

the shatter damage might actually still be relevant on bosses, as it onlystates taht was a thing with auto shattering which as far as im aware only happends after 2 seconds of doing no extra damage. which doesnt happend that often, so we should see an addtitional increase in shatter damage to bosses most of the time

I feel like stasis is just gonna be really good on some prismatic builds if you have the right fragments that is

15:00 with winters guile they are changing it where it will automatically shatter when you hit something with it. So it works here.

It wasn't mentioned that Renewal would be losing the -50% damage for enemies in the bubble; with the Frost Armor changes and Prismatic being able to use Widow's Silk for double charges, there's some potential for a very long -50% from boss, -36% incoming (with Rime, obviously less without)...before accounting for Sever -40% outgoing damage/other DR like Well of Radiance/Stag. We could potentially approach the point where Master Raid bosses are tickling us in the snowflake dome. Especially cause we are supposed to get ALL subclass Aspects through the campaign, so Touch of Winter/Widow's Silk will be the premier Duskfield spam build.

21:00 I'm just going to point out that frozen targets just take extra base melee damage. Since both the new fragments focus on that base melee instead of projectile melees, I'm assuming thats where the design came from.

Instead of weapons of light being taken away and put onto Helm of Saint-14, I think that perhaps Helm of Saint-14 should improve weapons of light.

i hope this doesn’t make renewal grasps good enough to get nerfed because i’ve been enjoying my secret meta for a while now and don’t want it ruined

I didnt know what about Nova Bomb, buff seems alot better than i thought now

It's good seeing positivity in this tuning preview after hanging around in the subreddit for way too long 💀

As a mainly Pvp player I am glad to see bubble titan get nerfed in some way. On the pve side though I do think they need to find a new niche/role for bubble

How is the vortex duration buff a 1:1 total damage buff? Does it have no impact damage?

Hoping we don’t reach a state where we need to stack bubble and well again

Cranking them videos out Love to see it

Honestly it feels like back in D1 where you kinda needed The Glasshouse helmet to actually have a worthwhile buff for dps. Maybe that’s what they were going for. Anyways time to bust out Lumina.

15:00 freeze rifting feinds of the crucible

45:50 strand titan without grapple melee still insaley good. Thats why ppl thought banner was so op when it came out oringally before ppl did the grapple combo

Couldn't wait for the aegis drop on this

Finally, my second opinion man has uploaded

Will the freeze changes to Revenant Hunter super affect using whisper of rending on lucky pants dps at all?

Can't wait to see bonk titan mains migrate to knife hunter.

Honestly happy to see well nerf, we’ve played the same game since forsaken. People actually can’t just place well and not fear death

Well time for hunters to bully titans into running bubble behind the well for the damage reduction for wile in the well

Ngl, I’m glad Well is getting nerfed. It became the modern “gjally or kick.” I’ve seen too many endgame lfgs specifically requesting well

How do you think the grapple refresh will interact with multiple people and do you think it will go above 17.5s if you grapple immediately (as in plus 5 no matter the internal duration or only add 5 when 5 have passed)?

Will the thread of warding nerf make weavewalk the better aspect option for warlock? With weavewalk's one slot, you can only fit generation, evolution, and ascent; maybe ditching occasional woven mail uptime is worthwhile then?

My new opinion just drooped

Btw aegis is the squall 40% buff dmg and tick rate or just tick rate which results in more dmg? They kinda worded ut weird

Cyrtarachne and renewal grasp stacking on the class item is gonna be nasty

I cant speak for the other Stasis Subclasses but as far as Behemoth went they just took things you were already doing and combined them into easier to maintain more convenient options since you no longer have to micro manage all the Stasis Crystals you could spawn and where they are positioned which makes it less punishing the mess up. The Stasis Shard ICD is definitely going to hurt Behemoth but its a small price to pay compared to the alternative and it really was a problem in PvP considering it was just free Overshields on round start without any interaction from your opponent AND you could run it along with Collective Action for a damage buff as well to meet certain break points and could also fuel the Elemental Charge mod quite easily. as far as the Grapple Tangle change is concerned im curious if this will apply to regular tangles since Bungie goes through the effort to differentiate them in visual appearance and name.

There’s something that I didn’t understand, it will be better for melee dmg on Strand Titan to use Synthos or not? I didn’t get the diminishing returns, is still using synthos a buff o better use another thing?

If they're going to reduce it this much they ought to make double triple quadruple Wells stack that way you could get back up to that level if you wanted to

4 videos in 1 week is crazy. Bro got put to work in the coal mines

Do you think the increased slow rate on SnS will provide a meaningful buff to warden's edge or malfeasance edge rotations? More slow = more freeze = more kinetic damage, right? I know you aren't able to test these changes yet but you do have a better understanding of how these rotations work and all

Saint 14 makes edge of action's mini bubble provide a blinding effect and previously granted overshields aswell (now that the mini bubble provides an overshield, it isnt necessary) if this weapons of light change grants it to every instance of the mini bubble youd be able to used weapons of light with literally any titan subclass. How is no one talking about this??

Vortex nova buff isn't a 43% overall damage increase. That's implying the actual detonation does zero damage. It will be 43% * whatever the damage of the current vortex is.

well is gone. just wait until final shape drops and you’ll feel it

yoooo my round robin with enhanced subsistence and hatchling can generate even MORE threadlings with thread of rebirth and now weaver's call :)

Hey aegis could you do a video over prismatic build speculation?

I know we normally do dps around here but following these notes I've been delving into mitigation options like Sever, Overload and Renewals and I'm like, how much of a difference do these actually make? Does reducing a bosses damage apply to well/bubble or just players? How do these stack? Are there diminishing returns? Would love a deep dive cause uh, this seems to be an aspect of Destiny I can't seem to dig up any info on.

imagine if they only reduce the orb power WHILE having ses equipped so like, pop swap and shoot to bypass the nerf (maybe its already this way and we dont know cus who perceives the super energy change when the hunter on the team does this?)

Is it just shinies going away in TFS or all brave weapons, I noticed that it said brave weapons but I thought they were staying?

I dont think they are filling in the hole of the touch of winter glacier grenade as they say added additional crystal to the ring formation, keyword being ring. But its not an overly important detail anyway.

Next is exotic armor 🫣

If youre on horse impetus edge is pressing super going to be a dps loss post change or nah

Well + banner might be the way to go now ? ( didn’t watch the full video yet don’t cook me to hard)

Bungie reports that sales of the Final Shape among Warlock mains have dropped dramatically

The drawback of using Well is not having a damage super. Why does everyone, including Bungie, overlook that? You're trading burst damage for survivability. The changes they are implementing don't address this but instead shift the paradigm (like Starfire got changed from boss DPS to ad clear at best).

Ah yes, let's just make stasis hunters even better than they already are

All that Well nerf tells me is that I won't be trolling if I run Boots of the Assembler now

Warlocks are still on well duty, it's just worse now. Kind of bummed it wasn't enough to warrant running strand over well.

Wonder if I should expect to be kicked from all raids just for being a titan...

Will whisper be the meta for Crota now that we’ll can’t really protect as well as it could. Will berserker become more of niche pick with sever on Crota?