Good to know! Thanks.

I see you are a bot for the town manager

Do you mean me? If so, what does that even mean?

@@fleabittenadventuresdon’t worry about him. That doesn’t make any sense. Probably a bot himself. I’m friends with both building inspectors and Fire Marshall’s and in addition to what R32R3 said it also indicates the building is condemned.

Thanks. I didn't know that.

Fun times! 🍆

I nearly had the same experience. Some guy was smiling and staring at me when I walked into the bathroom once. Luckily nothing else happened. I'll bet a lot of people meet up there...

Was it a heavy set guy wearing grey sweatpants and a grey t-shirt? Because I go to that mall often and I always see a guy dressed like that in there with a shopping cart. He seems very strange.

@@jasonwebb5964 Nope, thin, maybe 50-something aged guy with glasses.

Do you remember the “meet ups” in the men’s room at the old G. Fox in West Farms back in the mid-80s? I was a college sophomore who worked in the store at the time, and there were some older men who really creeped me out. I only worked there for about a month around Christmastime, and the story was on the news shortly after. I certainly then understood why I was so uncomfortable around some of those “customers”.

Nice. I'll have to check out the theater next.

@@fleabittenadventures Don't use the restroom !! 😂😂

Blame your Planning Commission.

I had no idea. That's crazy.

It says a lot for how tight security is.

Yup. It's on its final legs I think.

​@@fleabittenadventuresthe Denny's is abandoned now I'm.pretty sure . Just like the one in Vernon.

@@platypinetworkYeah it’s closed and abandoned now

I agree. Nothing will get done.

Yes. It's still open, barely. I'll do an update on it in the next month or so.

It started going downhill in the late 2000s then really hit hard times around 2017 or so.

You could, once the holes in the roof, etc, are fixed.

Everyone always suggests this when the see a dead mall. But the problem is malls are not easily converted into usable living space, the HVAC system is no way suitable, the sewer system is not anywhere near the task of supporting people living there and the electrical is completely unsuitable as well. You could add windows to the exterior to give people some natural light, but the middle of the building would be either a wasteland you have to heat in the winter or have a bunch of windowless prison cells in the middle. Also, the upkeep on such a massive roof would bury any non profit organization in short order. This building is crumbling, trying to save it to convert it to something it's never been designed to do would be a massive waste of money and resources. It's not an old, well built house that's fallen on hard times, it's a cheaply made empty box that's falling down. It makes more sense to knock it down and build some brand new affordable housing on site.

No. You can still access the mall itself. It's just the old anchor stores that are closed off. I'll have an updated video on the interior sometime later this year.

I'll check it out this weekend, but I'll bet it will be unchanged.

Target is doing fine. That's literally the only reason 95% of people come to the mall.

@@fleabittenadventures thanks,,,that is what i thot also

I never even thought of that. That shows how good security is if someone can build a concrete ramp and not get caught.

Yeah I don't think they are going to do anything to fix it up.

They own a lot of the theaters in this area. I think they bought Showcase Cinemas maybe??? I'd have to google it

@@fleabittenadventures weird. Cinemark didn't even exist until 1984.

@@fleabittenadventures and it's equally bizarre that anyone would buy out Showcase Cinemas - I mean, that's just what cinemas were - like, all of them were Showcase. When the hell did that happen? Also weird.

Check out my previous videos on this mall. There are some open stores, but I would say maybe 75% are closed.

@@fleabittenadventures it's an observation about this phenomenon generally. When one goes to the mall one goes to the mall, not one store. It's one entity as far as everyone is concerned, except the owner apparently. Bizarre. You'd think that either the owner would kick everyone else out, or more likely that anyone with a store still open would close once at least half of the stores had left. Who on earth would want a store in a building that's falling apart is almost entirely abandoned? Stupid.

Only the former Macy's Men's has the red "X" due to the roof damage. The rest the mall, including Target and all the in-line tenants are open.

The mall is still open. It's the old anchor store buildings that are falling apart.

@@fleabittenadventures but I am thinking what you were saying they really are not trying to fix any problems here right

The mall itself never closed. However, all of the anchors and the majority of the stores are closed. I'll take another look around Christmas and see what's up.

Could be, but you could also argue that the stucco is a part of the building.

@@fleabittenadventures it's superficial, not structural. It's more of a scrape than a cavity. In other words, it's not that big of a deal. Yes, over time it will become one, but at the moment it's still not really a "hole in the building".

@@fleabittenadventures I mean, it's not "load bearing stucco".

@@fleabittenadventures in other words, calling it a "hole in the building" is hyperbolic, that's all.

Well, legally they have to fix it, but they won't because I don't think the owner cares.

It has 4 anchors 2x former Macys and 1x former Sears and a occupied Target, movies and a decent number of in-line tenants, some of which are new. As they are all connected, they are required to fix it as a fire in that section, with the missing tiles would get up into the void between the drop ceiling and roof and spread before sprinklers could activate. The tiles keep the heat and smoke down to allow sprinklers or smoke detectors to properly activate.

Little bit.