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[ENG] AfreecaTV StarLeague(ASL) S10 Ro.8 Day2
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@lipslidemyrail
@lipslidemyrail 3 жыл бұрын
Shout out to Tasteless and his improvement as a caster. I think over the last year he's been either massing games or studying the meta because his level of detail and insight is much better vs one year ago. I was thinking he might be getting burned out and his comments seemed to be just reiterating what Artosis would say but in this game in particular he still shows his ability to read the game and cast a great series.
@GrandBenja
@GrandBenja 3 жыл бұрын
That is true. He is getting better.
@duhnickduh2321
@duhnickduh2321 3 жыл бұрын
I agree but also remember his hand was out of commission for awhile and I’m sure he was pretty bummed about that and obviously couldn’t play any SC.
@iusgaming
@iusgaming 3 жыл бұрын
Tasteless' Brood War insight was never lacking, but his understanding is more intuitive than analytical. So as a duo they started out with fixed roles. Tasteless in control of the casting flow and Artosis being the critical commentator. Over time they have been switching up the roles fluidly as their synergy grew. To me these contemporary praises are of an analytical-minded community being appeased. Well good job to Tasteless for that.
@mmachine101
@mmachine101 3 жыл бұрын
he started playing Brood War again about a year or so after so many years he's low A / high B rank protoss
@endyage
@endyage 3 жыл бұрын
Tastosis screaming NOOOO NOOO in game 3 pretty much sums it up
@sinepatre
@sinepatre 3 жыл бұрын
“Not like this” straight up Matrix reference.
@endyage
@endyage 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexfriedman2047 it just goes through a new evolution stage. Right now it is the zerg era but it doesn't mean that protoss players won't come up with something new.
@DarkLeviathan8
@DarkLeviathan8 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexfriedman2047 -Sincerely, Alex, an E-rank player. Thank you for your insight, Alex.
@alexfriedman2047
@alexfriedman2047 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkLeviathan8 lol a D rank player talks shit and calls an A rank player bad loool 😂🤣🤣 and then if you actually are good then you are just an asshole, but i doubt that you know anything about the game.
@alexfriedman2047
@alexfriedman2047 3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkLeviathan8 If you want to 1v1 let mw know. Ill fukin crush you, foo.
@chefkoch4540
@chefkoch4540 3 жыл бұрын
10:43 Tasteless & Artosis 24:38 Game 1 59:20 Game 2 1:15:42 Game 3 1:25:57 Game 4 1:47:32 Game 5
@Sekir80
@Sekir80 3 жыл бұрын
Very hoping :D
@YayaBunWa
@YayaBunWa 3 жыл бұрын
Spoiler free time stamps are the best. Doing God’s work, ma man~
@markwhat619
@markwhat619 3 жыл бұрын
The return of double stargate reaver is upon us
@snowflakepillow8697
@snowflakepillow8697 3 жыл бұрын
"It's funny too Artosis, it's funny, don't forget, the plague reveals the Observer. How sad is that. Hydras can inadvertently just shoot them down when they don't even have any HP anymore." As a Protoss degenerate I love when Tasteless makes a good point against Artosis! hehehehe
@GrandBenja
@GrandBenja 3 жыл бұрын
After watching this, especially the first game, I feel like Protoss players will have to shift the PvZ meta. The old school gateway style doesn't seem to cut it when Zerg gets to the macro stage and has Lurker contain. New players like Soma start expanding more aggressively and quickly get an endless lurker contain. With a good spread, even storms cannot break through; Protoss cannot trade efficiently into this. Zerg is free to develop, and at max supply for each side, it's just a matter of time until Zerg wins. I'm expecting Protoss players to have a more technical approach next season. We'll probably see more Corsair/Reaver play, avoiding "fair" fights altogether. Technical play usually is the best answer to aggressive expanding. With that said, let's not talk like Best is already eliminated. I'm sure he isn't intending to roll over and die. He'll come prepared. :)
@paradigmlost7582
@paradigmlost7582 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Zerg are expanding like true parasites. Maybe recall, maybe more Dark Archons is the answer. Also, Soma is just too good.
@2GGop
@2GGop 3 жыл бұрын
Best is much better PvZ than Snow, he has a better chance
@njsification
@njsification 3 жыл бұрын
He was up 40 supply after the first few trades. I think the real problem is losing the Templars to just randomly running them into lurkers. If they would shift click or put them in a shuttle or something it might allow them to snowball with like 7 templars gaining continuous value.
@cytokine6084
@cytokine6084 3 жыл бұрын
Nope! Snow himself mentioned in his personal channel that this match up is extremely unfavorable for him, for that Soma’s amateur background and unorthodox style find him weak against those with strong optimization & multitasking, traits that Snow doesn’t have. Also, Zeus criticized Snow for not going double robo reavers in game 1, and not seeing the “obvious ling all in” on 3rd - Zeus says the moment Snow gas rushed Soma and killed two drones, Soma was given no choice but to go ling all in (he said it before lings popped out of eggs) because Soma originally went for 2 hatch play. Too late for tech (gas rush) and too behind to go econ (2 hatch start with 2 drones killed). And since he started mining gas already and is taking the lead by 2:0, he might as well just go all in. And Soma did.
@abstractdaddy1384
@abstractdaddy1384 3 жыл бұрын
Best is the only Protoss I've seen who frequently uses dark archons. His openness to new strategy is exactly what Protoss needs right now against Zergs who look like they broke PvZ. I'm looking forward to what he brings against Queen.
@KuraiChanZ
@KuraiChanZ 3 жыл бұрын
The thirst in chat whenever that lady shows up lol
@yeon723
@yeon723 3 жыл бұрын
you mean grandma lol
@livelyascanbe
@livelyascanbe 3 жыл бұрын
Thirst chat is reallllll! :O
@DarkLeviathan8
@DarkLeviathan8 3 жыл бұрын
Do you guys know how old she is lmao
@YayaBunWa
@YayaBunWa 3 жыл бұрын
@@yeon723 >”grandma” >for a game dating back to the early 90s That young thing be repping that tight leather dress-skirt daaaammmn fiiiine. ... ‘Course we-be-thirsting! Damn-admirable what she does la~
@usmh
@usmh 2 жыл бұрын
She is thirst-inducing tbf.
@a5f348h2Qz
@a5f348h2Qz 3 жыл бұрын
always depressing when there's less than an hour left in the program and the games haven't even started yet xd
@sethiddings7293
@sethiddings7293 3 жыл бұрын
haha the old short video spoiler alert
@abstractdaddy1384
@abstractdaddy1384 3 жыл бұрын
You can get a chrome extension called "anticipation". It hides the time on youtube videos.
@a5f348h2Qz
@a5f348h2Qz 3 жыл бұрын
@@abstractdaddy1384 mvp suggestion, thanks
@myMikeable
@myMikeable 3 жыл бұрын
First thing I thought when I saw the length was "shit its a 3-0"
@steinarmathisen3015
@steinarmathisen3015 3 жыл бұрын
@@abstractdaddy1384 thanks so much, this will change my life
@ImDunton
@ImDunton 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you AfreecaTV.
@DevinDTV
@DevinDTV 3 жыл бұрын
Am I crazy or would dweb have not been an amazing upgrade to have in game 1 (around 40:00) when snow was trying to take the highground? He already had like 12 corsairs and was trying to go across 2 bridges and up high ground against a bunch of lurkers. Just throw down some dwebs and he has to pull back or lose everything to storm/goons. Seems like the perfect use-case.
@vava85
@vava85 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best tournaments so far
@AwonDanag
@AwonDanag 3 жыл бұрын
'Look at this YOLO game over here...' (seconds later) 'NOOOOOOOO!'
@snowflakepillow8697
@snowflakepillow8697 3 жыл бұрын
As a Protoss can I just say: Soma is my new (non-July and of course non-Jaedong but also non-GGPlay) favorite Zerg... because if a Zerg is gonna 3-0 a Protoss... MAY IT BE (cue Enya song from Fellowship of the Ring which I already had going for completely unrelated reasons) LIKE THIS!
@iusgaming
@iusgaming 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, today we witnessed the Zerg again.
@7thquark309
@7thquark309 3 жыл бұрын
Protosses, it's about time you find a counterplay to the Zerg siege. *Recall, D-web, mass drops, carriers*, I don't care, please no more hitting the wall with your head until you're KO. On another note, Stargirl was so classy!
@paradigmlost7582
@paradigmlost7582 3 жыл бұрын
Recall is a good idea IMO.
@sir0herrbatka
@sir0herrbatka 3 жыл бұрын
You gonna need dark archons as well. Feedback defilers, or even better: mind control some and then plague.
@jonathan4055
@jonathan4055 3 жыл бұрын
Well Snow the best Shuttle reaver player in the world and he plays gateway vs lurkers again and again...
@youuuuuuuuuuutube
@youuuuuuuuuuutube 3 жыл бұрын
This game has not been solved yet, give it another 10 years maybe.
@Th3Sh1n1gam1
@Th3Sh1n1gam1 3 жыл бұрын
Carriers and arbiters are far too slow vs scourge and protoss doesn't have real ways to protect them other than corsair. Not to mention, the cost of resource and time to make either t3 stargate units is very difficult to overcome in pvz. Templar tech barely comes out in time; t3 stargate would be at least 2-3 minutes later.
@paradigmlost7582
@paradigmlost7582 3 жыл бұрын
Soma vs Flash is going to be interesting.
@detrockcity3
@detrockcity3 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe. If the Random Gods will it.
@vindico8231
@vindico8231 3 жыл бұрын
Flash will win.
@GSE1916
@GSE1916 3 жыл бұрын
Hopefully Soma improved because he got rolled over last time they met in ASL
@igorkamerzan
@igorkamerzan 3 жыл бұрын
@@GSE1916 He got rolled by light, not Flash, but still his tvz skills are worse than his pvz, so random is actually an advantage for Soma
@GSE1916
@GSE1916 3 жыл бұрын
@@igorkamerzan he did get rolled by Flash in the 3rd place match if you watched it
@dal1371
@dal1371 3 жыл бұрын
Soma's come a long way. I remember him as ChosimZerg and losing in earlier rounds and damn he's refined his game, his micro/macro is looking near flawless, and his strats and little mind games were insane too. He's my pick to win it all
@premo2k781
@premo2k781 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Flash may not be ready to contend with soma using random if he doesn't at least get terrain once.
@KenNywithrice
@KenNywithrice 3 жыл бұрын
Thought Snow's BGM sounded familiar. It's from ASL 5! Makes sense since that was his best season.
@iamLI3
@iamLI3 3 жыл бұрын
so nostalgic :D ...
@AlmightyDreadlock
@AlmightyDreadlock 3 жыл бұрын
Time to bring back the good ol' days of corsair + reaver
@yuripantyhose4973
@yuripantyhose4973 3 жыл бұрын
excellent games this season but damn I miss the round of season 9, they were so entertaining and back and forth, so many games, this... this is a MASSACRE!
@snowflakepillow8697
@snowflakepillow8697 3 жыл бұрын
daed gaem jokes when Flash going Random is the most exciting thing in years Kappa I'm hooked again and even watching this series...
@user-wk4np7fh2v
@user-wk4np7fh2v 3 жыл бұрын
Damn flash might get rolled
@YayaBunWa
@YayaBunWa 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna be a fricking good series, man
@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709
@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709 3 жыл бұрын
As a zerg player I would like to see protoss use disruptive web vs lurkers. Especially the lurkers in the back on the highground. Not the ones in the front.
@detrockcity3
@detrockcity3 3 жыл бұрын
Smart. That would've been worth a try for sure.
@AlmightyDreadlock
@AlmightyDreadlock 3 жыл бұрын
That always seemed like a good idea, to me. But, after a patch drastically reduced the amount of time a disruption web persists, nobody thinks it's worthwhile.
@gregorylu
@gregorylu 3 жыл бұрын
too expensive and lurkers are too spread out. plus corsairs become quite brittle mid-late game to hydras so if they fly a little too close to use web, hydras will eat them alive
@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709
@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlmightyDreadlock the short time is a buff for protoss, otherwise toss would disrupt itself when advancing. It's long enough
@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709
@gfdgdfgdfgdfggfdgdfgdfgdfg9709 3 жыл бұрын
@Daniel Garcia that's missing the point. I said to cast it behind the first lurker row. That means toss can freely advance over the bridge and up the hill. zerg wouldn't be able to defend the first line of lurkers and then toss would be able to fight on high ground. Reaver helps too, but he already had a bunch of corsairs that barely did anything at that point. Also reavers need a lot of attention.
@sozigen
@sozigen 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, someone know the name of the sing in the end, when larva won?
@JackyVSO
@JackyVSO Жыл бұрын
Soma's immortal game
@twinesper
@twinesper 7 күн бұрын
Good 1st & 3rd games.
@DhaosBelmont
@DhaosBelmont 3 жыл бұрын
Name of the song prior to the games?
@ipecacrc9883
@ipecacrc9883 3 жыл бұрын
Great job casting Tastosis! Island/Semi-Island maps are awesome. Stop the hate! Embrace the chaos!!! Hoping for ZVZ final SOMAvsLARVA!
@taylortetra1781
@taylortetra1781 2 жыл бұрын
Broooo protest the hero and in flames is it 2010 or am I bumpin
@Legion1893
@Legion1893 3 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what the name of the song that starts at 52:21?
@premo2k781
@premo2k781 3 жыл бұрын
I think soma will win it all this year. He's on point
@kaydens6964
@kaydens6964 3 жыл бұрын
You forgetting Flash's random?
@premo2k781
@premo2k781 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaydens6964 I can't deny that. He is amazing. But it's his first year using it and if he doesn't at least get terrain once he might lose.
@kaydens6964
@kaydens6964 3 жыл бұрын
@@premo2k781 judging by this zvp series, he might need more than one game of Terran, we haven’t seen much of flash Zerg, but I believe pro Zergs should have the advantage in zvz. Other Players might need some time to adapt vs a random in order to optimise their openings. That being said I still can’t believe the goat is doing a random run lol
@paradigmlost7582
@paradigmlost7582 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaydens6964 Was there any game with Flash as Zerg at all? I don't remember seeing one.
@Blackfilmguild
@Blackfilmguild 3 жыл бұрын
Why did they take away scourage from SC2?
@AleksandarProkopec
@AleksandarProkopec 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't watch this... where have all the reavers gone?
@princeofexcess
@princeofexcess 3 жыл бұрын
please add padding to videos at the end
@Jastro88
@Jastro88 3 жыл бұрын
Somaversnow. I like it.
@dj_koen1265
@dj_koen1265 3 жыл бұрын
Even though it seems soma is a better player overall Snow played really well this series
@ace8099
@ace8099 3 жыл бұрын
STARCRAFT BROODWAR #1
@HonorableZealot
@HonorableZealot 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone else screaming what about disruption web???? To deal with the lurker contain. You can just literally walk right on to the high ground and position perfectly against them or force them to pick up and move back.
@BreakTheIce222
@BreakTheIce222 3 жыл бұрын
I felt like Snow was just tilted after Game 1.
@markwhat619
@markwhat619 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t blame him. That was torture. Ultra cheesy strat abusing the map design.
@erichall090909
@erichall090909 3 жыл бұрын
@@markwhat619 how was game 1 cheesy lol
@user-eq3qf6ty6u
@user-eq3qf6ty6u 3 жыл бұрын
@@erichall090909 people don't even understand what's cheesy is...
@erichall090909
@erichall090909 3 жыл бұрын
@@user-eq3qf6ty6u lol it’s like. Played completely standard.... cheesy
@MrMischelito
@MrMischelito 3 жыл бұрын
Snow was on tilt since losing to flash in pvp
@snowflakepillow8697
@snowflakepillow8697 3 жыл бұрын
Somehow I knew from the beeps this [Game 1] was gonna be one of those 2 player map PvZs that comes down to whether the map splits 50-50 or whether Zerg is able to snipe a base from the "other half" of the map. Soma baited Snow HARD with that gaseous fart fleet of scourge into playing too passive/defensive to be able to secure the 12 o'clock base "BETTER LABELED AS: THE WIN". The storm drop was too little too late. There's this dynamic on 2 player maps in PvZ where if it's too easy to split the map 50 / 50 Protoss can aim for splitting the map in half and starving the Zerg out. But Soma made a great move to expand to the "5th" before the 3rd and to set up that contain to be able to get the 12 o'clock base and therefore the win. The quintessential game I'm thinking of is the Proleague ace match between Stork and Jaedong on Match Point which is here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/f9CWabWq2LTVaX0.html Awesome game from both players... dang it I'm hooked on Brood War again...
@user-ju5ve5um4o
@user-ju5ve5um4o 3 жыл бұрын
have replay?
@du_gall
@du_gall 3 жыл бұрын
I can’t even imagine how he kept himself from putting two hatcheries with sunkens on these high grounds 39:07.
@FriedrichWeidig
@FriedrichWeidig 3 жыл бұрын
My thought
@gregorylu
@gregorylu 3 жыл бұрын
unbuildable high ground. cant build stuff up there
@samusaran13372
@samusaran13372 3 жыл бұрын
AfreecaTV, please include an hour of nothing at the end just so we aren't spoiled by the length of the video.
@gregk5917
@gregk5917 3 жыл бұрын
Agree! After first game being so long you pretty much knew it was 3-0 and after second game you definitely knew. Spoiler alert extra hour is much needed
@TheXantaur
@TheXantaur 3 жыл бұрын
Thatd be a bad idea for them if you consider the youtube algorithm
@Cody27
@Cody27 3 жыл бұрын
What kind of sick person puts jelly on first? You get PB in the jelly jar cause PB is on first.
@IYPITWL
@IYPITWL 2 жыл бұрын
1:22:01 look at the adrenaline pumping thru soma in this moment
@mattr8750
@mattr8750 3 жыл бұрын
Why don't zerg broodling high templars?
@dj_koen1265
@dj_koen1265 3 жыл бұрын
Lul that would never be worth it Queens are useless in pvz Besides Mutas can snipe templars just fine
@fenrilorf534
@fenrilorf534 3 жыл бұрын
I want to become as good as soma but I don´t have more than 6 hours a week to play. Is that enough?
@bobafett4015
@bobafett4015 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@vitorodino8760
@vitorodino8760 3 жыл бұрын
6 hours per week? Not even close. Sorry. These guys play more than 6 hours per DAY. By the time you accrue the knowledge and intuition and muscle-memory for the game, you will be too old to play it at a competitive level. That isn't to say you cant become very high level or have a lot of fun, but I highly doubt you can become a professional player with that time allotment.
@Liatin1
@Liatin1 3 жыл бұрын
That third game, damn :(
@tomleszczynski2862
@tomleszczynski2862 3 жыл бұрын
That game 1 was WITHOUT Soma bringing overlords to snipe the observers. Everything revealed, nwbtoss still had no chance.
@natenatenate10
@natenatenate10 3 жыл бұрын
bringing ovies would've just gotten him supply blocked since snow had a full group of +1 corsairs--plus, he wanted snow to keep attacking in since he was on the high ground and snow had to funnel through two narrow bridges
@TheMichaelfreeman
@TheMichaelfreeman 3 жыл бұрын
Rolled!
@LuckyStilet1
@LuckyStilet1 2 жыл бұрын
1:20:00 Super greed of protoss. You see 10 Drones zerg vs like 20 probes, see that many lings infront of your wall and your gate about to fall - and you don't even make shield battery or bring probes.
@simpltrix6523
@simpltrix6523 3 жыл бұрын
Whats the first song? at 0:00
@sethiddings7293
@sethiddings7293 3 жыл бұрын
Sandstorm - Darude
@simpltrix6523
@simpltrix6523 3 жыл бұрын
@@sethiddings7293 huhu
@Morphixx
@Morphixx 3 жыл бұрын
11:44 - Anybody got an ID on this song?
@karlhans6678
@karlhans6678 3 жыл бұрын
Game 2 and 3 were painful to watch. Game 1 was frustrating to see Snow not change his strategy, he kept trying to get break through the heavy lurker defense. I think the Finals are gonna be Soma vs Flash.
@elliskennedy9885
@elliskennedy9885 3 жыл бұрын
need to add some filler at the end so you can't tell how many games are left
@spirallove5946
@spirallove5946 3 жыл бұрын
this matchup does feel solved after seeing soma destroy the last few protosses, all of whom are amazing pvzers. feels like on any regular ground map, P will be at a heavy disadvantage versus what zergs are doing nowadays. time to bring back dire straits? it seems tricky to design a map where all the matchups will be balanced though, good challenge to the map makers
@erichall090909
@erichall090909 3 жыл бұрын
Protoss just have to innovate. Happens all the time in brood war. Snow isn’t the best person to watch for this he really isn’t that good or innovative in pvz
@karlhans6678
@karlhans6678 3 жыл бұрын
Soma is on another level, Flash level. And protoss played bad.
@ltsmx
@ltsmx 3 жыл бұрын
*** SPOILER ALERT*** until the protoss start using more of their tech (DAs and DWeb), they won't win tournaments.
@Nagassh
@Nagassh 3 жыл бұрын
Man even Tasteless knows you need a separate knife for everything and he doesn't even know what pants are for.
@Zevonthethompsongun
@Zevonthethompsongun 3 жыл бұрын
Artosis: these lings arent going to do anything Soma: lul k
@henryh.448
@henryh.448 3 жыл бұрын
Spoiler... Looks like Snow, once again, out-thought himself and *didn't* go reaver. I guess he doesn't wanna be predictable, but there's just one teensy-weensy problem. Snow without a reaver loses, hard. Look at all those contains he tried to break, each time *without* a reaver. Snow's brain gets smaller every time he meets Flash.
@alexcocco4413
@alexcocco4413 3 жыл бұрын
TFW you see the video is 100mins and you know someone got 3-0'd
@brettj544
@brettj544 3 жыл бұрын
I thought snow was supposed to still be really good. He got completely destroyed in this series! Game 2 and 3 I just felt bad for him :( that lurker run by!
@dj_koen1265
@dj_koen1265 3 жыл бұрын
Snow is good but soma is a better player now
@princeofexcess
@princeofexcess 3 жыл бұрын
practicing vrs random is easy. Just get 3 of the best Z P T players you can find and then whichever race get drawn you have the person that mains that race to sit down. I don't think its easy to master playing versus random but practicing is pretty straightforward granted you can find good players that want to help you.
@grumblesaurus
@grumblesaurus 3 жыл бұрын
Why do they wear two headphones?
@ghtjdrla
@ghtjdrla 3 жыл бұрын
that is actually about to prevent cheating. over-ear headphone for noise-cancelling makes players impossible to hear crowds and commentator. in-ear one is for hear in-game sounds
@davidcombs8914
@davidcombs8914 3 жыл бұрын
Flash in trouble :(
@jacobkallenberger8903
@jacobkallenberger8903 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone please tell Artosis that the word important is pronounced "im-por-tant", not "im-por-int"?
@fernandomartinezaranguren8222
@fernandomartinezaranguren8222 3 жыл бұрын
Name song at 1:22:57?
@kimkejangmania3708
@kimkejangmania3708 3 жыл бұрын
The unguided - Crown Prince Syndrome
@antonioangeloviii4748
@antonioangeloviii4748 3 жыл бұрын
snow should of used d web and broke the contain that way.
@henryh.448
@henryh.448 3 жыл бұрын
Lol what is this d-web crazy nonsense. Try reaver. All those attempts to breakout lacked a reaver...
@snowflakepillow8697
@snowflakepillow8697 3 жыл бұрын
@47:30 running upgraded speedlots through a bunch of shit is something even crappy player me can always appreciate
@kwanghwancho5530
@kwanghwancho5530 3 жыл бұрын
얘넨 스타 볼 줄 알고 보는건가 ㅋㅋ 신기하네
@anupew3276
@anupew3276 3 жыл бұрын
Well, that second and third games were just disgusting and painful to watch... First was nice. Looking forward to soma vs flash, should be fun :)
@silvercrystalct
@silvercrystalct 3 жыл бұрын
Game 1, a dark archon, disruption web, a single reaver, or arbiter for recall any of those would have made a difference. Game 2, I got nothing. Game 3, that cannon was late. Game 4, What? Game 5 Lol. GG
@sethiddings7293
@sethiddings7293 3 жыл бұрын
Dweb on lurkers is interesting, i mean you got all the corsair anyways
@alsrl8505
@alsrl8505 3 жыл бұрын
Ang ki mo jji
@GK-gc9cv
@GK-gc9cv 3 жыл бұрын
Toss needs a more balanced strategy between reavers and gateway units. Gateway units just can't outscale zerg late game, zerg is too mobile and sends wave after wave. Pure reaver corsair is good for harass but can't win. A gateway army with some reavers is so much stronger than just gateway units alone
@noblecyborg-savage
@noblecyborg-savage 3 жыл бұрын
1:08:20 Scumbag lurker run by 🤣🤣
@alexfriedman2047
@alexfriedman2047 3 жыл бұрын
저 그냥 궁금하지만 장윤철 선수는 사실 동성애자예요? 무작위의 사람한테 이걸 들었어요. 제가 단지 궁금합니다. 알려 주세요. 또한, 그 문장이 맞았어요? 저에게 한국 문법이 정말 헷갈려요.
@ghtjdrla
@ghtjdrla 3 жыл бұрын
i dont know why there are rumors that he is gay. he has a girlfriend who is planning to get married. maybe you even think he pretend straight cause he isnt strong enough to stand up to homophobic people and structures but as far as i know, i strongly believe he is not gay your korean skill is great. still if you want try to refine it a bit, it would be more natural if you say 궁금한 건데 instead of 궁금하지만, 사실 -> 정말, 무작위의 사람 -> 불특정 다수, 단지 -> 그냥
@alexfriedman2047
@alexfriedman2047 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghtjdrla 아 감사합니다! 한동안 한국어를 배웠지만 요즘 한국어 공부를 많이 하지 않아요. 그래서 작은 실수를 가끔 해요. May I ask What is the "건데" in 궁금한 건데 ??? Does it come from 것? As In a curious thing? Or what's the grammar? Yeah I heard that he's gay from some random people. Someone was leaving comments about how gay he is lol. I was like WTF?!?!? because I have never heard that and he doesn't seem gay, he seems completley normal and straight. Actually, you are most likely right, he is probably straight. Thanks again for your help bro!! I really appriciate when people are willing to help 외국인. I have met some REALLY good, nice Korean people who have helped me. I have also met a bunch of ass holes lmao. That's how any country or large group of people will be though, there will always be some good people and some bad people. It's been really great meeting the good Korean people though so far. Such good people almost always. Koreans are really talented people.
@ghtjdrla
@ghtjdrla 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexfriedman2047 www.italki.com/question/345552?hl=ko i think this could be the answer to your question about 건데 its regrettable that you had bad memories with some koreans but i hope dont mind rude ones much and leave only pleasant memories and hope there will be only good things in the future. and of course okay to ask more anything
@prison9865
@prison9865 Жыл бұрын
I always though Protoss was OP. The more i play this game, the more i understand that Zerg is OP. Its just hideous and I play zerg!
@du_gall
@du_gall 3 жыл бұрын
Catching a Dragon instead of attacking the nexus is a God-like move
@snowflakepillow8697
@snowflakepillow8697 3 жыл бұрын
Still loling at Tastosis trying to tell us soma is on the way to becoming the best player in the world while Flash is loling undefeated into the round of 4 like someone that found a way to wallhack in pro CS legally or how to be a millionaire as a crack addict because his dad has been in the senate for 40 years buuuuuuuuuut.... @41:15 when Soma targets the advancing Archon with Lurker spines... much respect. Not as much respect as he already earned earlier in the match (first Soma vid I've seen I think, definitely seen Snow a lot though if he played on TV before SC2 came out I don't remember it), and not as much respect as he already earned with his name, whether it be a reference to the Rigveda, Brave New World, or something else entirely, but still.... respect. :)
@kabuteshiitake7071
@kabuteshiitake7071 3 жыл бұрын
Was Jaedong better than Soma in Jaedongs heyday?
@majormononoke8958
@majormononoke8958 3 жыл бұрын
lol, what the fuck, soma is good but he hasnt won anything yet and if you actually look at the preinterview, you will notice that snow already looked like a beaten man. Keep the church in the town before praising him high. Also snow didnt know what he was up against and didnt react perfectly nor did he used different units to try to bust it. Plus he suffered economical damage from early mutaslisk... Soma looks good, but we will see how good he is after he won the ASL, if he wins it...
@spirallove5946
@spirallove5946 3 жыл бұрын
its not really fair to do that kind of comparison because the game has evolved so much, one could argue that any 2200+ ladder player nowadays is miles ahead of most of the best pros back in the day in terms of overall strategy and game approach
@CanariasCanariass
@CanariasCanariass 3 жыл бұрын
Different metagame back then.
@kabuteshiitake7071
@kabuteshiitake7071 3 жыл бұрын
@@majormononoke8958 what's happened to jaedong anyway? flash and bisu are still playing
@mentalforceru
@mentalforceru 3 жыл бұрын
@@kabuteshiitake7071 Military service
@du_gall
@du_gall 3 жыл бұрын
Snow lost because he lost first zealot so stupidly.
@flappy7373
@flappy7373 3 жыл бұрын
1:18:11 - "he doesn't wanna play against this 2hatch muta b... stuff." keepin' it G rated and safe for TV, eh?
@spacejaga
@spacejaga 3 жыл бұрын
I wish my GF looked at me like cameraman next to Snow looked at cameraman next to Soma after game one.... 51:40 :))
@RipTheJackR
@RipTheJackR 3 жыл бұрын
Im so fucking confused and angry now... WHAT?!?! :O
@emanoelpetrov1673
@emanoelpetrov1673 3 жыл бұрын
No comments
@alichinogaming6089
@alichinogaming6089 3 жыл бұрын
To think that the first game only needed 2 reavers to clean up those lurkers, with HTs and goons behind.
@filoflin5345
@filoflin5345 3 жыл бұрын
dont think its that simple at that level it never is he would ve killed them you can be sure
@abstractdaddy1384
@abstractdaddy1384 3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Maybe not only 2, but yes use of reavers in general would have helped. Scarabs do full damage under dark swarm and outrange lurkers 8 to 6.
@naczelnypsycholog6296
@naczelnypsycholog6296 3 жыл бұрын
Soma vs Queen in final, zerg OP
@Wow4ik4ik
@Wow4ik4ik 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done! My hopes and cryings were listened! Casters talk about builds and strategies ! Leveling up, Bois!
@du_gall
@du_gall 3 жыл бұрын
According to time stamps, it was a one-way match.
@VitorHugo8D
@VitorHugo8D 3 жыл бұрын
Where are the timestamps :|
@du_gall
@du_gall 3 жыл бұрын
@@VitorHugo8D commercials are between games and a time length in general
@sirpsycosexy88
@sirpsycosexy88 3 жыл бұрын
This round of 8 has been disappointing so far. Two 3-0's and now we get those dreadful ZvZ matchups. That's a snoozefest.
@TheRealCalPerr
@TheRealCalPerr 3 жыл бұрын
that map suuuuucks
@michaelsi6770
@michaelsi6770 3 жыл бұрын
noob Swon, you cant win ultra late game with Zerg without Arbiters and Rivers, I learned it in 2003 but Snow is still learning, what a mop
@nimblesheepvenomous3811
@nimblesheepvenomous3811 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno about arbiters because scourge exist, but absolutely snow should have gotten reavers. If snow had a reaver in the back punishing when zerg tries to run forward, who knows
@michaelsi6770
@michaelsi6770 3 жыл бұрын
@@nimblesheepvenomous3811 he had 10 Corsairs with +1 attack
@kmjxpyzbizhat3393
@kmjxpyzbizhat3393 3 жыл бұрын
1:20:14 nononononono
@alexfriedman2047
@alexfriedman2047 3 жыл бұрын
PvZ is actually just a joke. Like it's so unfair and imba. At lower levels it's balanced enough that mechanics and good play can overcome but at high levels it's totally imba. It's by far the most imba matchups. PvT at least is balanced and TvZ is balanced.
@Staint12
@Staint12 3 жыл бұрын
3-0 lmao
@andersonsampaio5133
@andersonsampaio5133 3 жыл бұрын
Zerg Op on starcraft 1 and 2 by far
@ethansaltmere
@ethansaltmere 3 жыл бұрын
Soma best player on the planet right now? (as flash is random) Just so dominant
@inf0tr8r
@inf0tr8r 3 жыл бұрын
and then flash rolls terran 3 times and does backflips over him
@GrandBenja
@GrandBenja 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still not sold on Soma's ZvT. He often struggles to transition from Mutalisk to late-game tech. We'll see how he performs against Flash when he does get Terran. :)
@filoflin5345
@filoflin5345 3 жыл бұрын
​@@GrandBenja soma s zvt is his worst for sure .but still very good .last seasons semis against light specifically the 4th game describes perfectly what you ve said where soma had a massive advantage and couldnt transition and eventually lost the semis instead of going to a fifth game.Also his record vs t against flash is bad but everybodys record against him is bad.I think if he keeps his cool he can win the semis(which is like 25 % chance lol )
@obstinatejack
@obstinatejack 3 жыл бұрын
3:0 =/
@tomleszczynski2862
@tomleszczynski2862 3 жыл бұрын
That was the most one-sided roflcopterstomp I can remember. Total mismatch.
@michaelsloanedog
@michaelsloanedog 3 жыл бұрын
so why dont toss get D web. He had a ton of corsiars with max energy, he could have D webd the lurkers and broken through the middle with them. Why do people never get this upgrade? its like queens and dark archons, they just never use them
@snowflakepillow8697
@snowflakepillow8697 3 жыл бұрын
"a couple good plagues" From our holy text, Liquipedia I proclaim forth, doo de de doo in full Monty Python forMALity! : "In addition, Archons serve an important role against Defilers; their splash damage remains effective under Dark Swarm. The primary target takes 25% damage; units positioned directly between the Archon and the primary target take full damage. Target the second row of enemies in a Dark Swarm to deal full damage to the first row. Friendly fire can achieve a similar effect with robust micro.[1]. Further, Plague is effectively useless against Archons by virtue of their low health."
@daytimestudios3678
@daytimestudios3678 3 жыл бұрын
Gg
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