[ENG CC] N/A vs. Turbo - the ultimate Civic EK battle Tsukuba HV34

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Tuned EK Civic's ultimate battle. N/A All motor vs. Turbo in a race at Tsukuba.
Starting grid:
1. Phase Civic EK (Takeshi Tsuchiya) N/A
2. Spoon Civic EK (Keiichi Tsuchiya) N/A
3. SS Works CRX (Kawasaki Shuhei) N/A
4. Esprit Civic EK (Akira Ida)
5. Top Fuel Civic EK (Orido Manabu)

Пікірлер: 203

@miroshi 6 жыл бұрын

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@OneDaymien 4 жыл бұрын

Unless you have a chipped ecu then it wont work realy silly actualy

@cvgbcs 9 жыл бұрын

that vtec sound on the spoon.. Hnnnnnng

@charleywaynehinkle6358 7 жыл бұрын

looks like crx would have won if it didnt start breaking down

@moali2531 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, them breaks were fucking scary

@3clubforever 4 жыл бұрын

I love how the carbed 2.0 liter took off on the others. It takes a lot of skill to tune carbs that well

@akumaz78 7 жыл бұрын

This is merely toys for them and god level of controlling that lost control Spoon EK is freaking insane!....bow down to the Drift King!

@mittiusschmittius1327 5 жыл бұрын

"Tire wear is bad" "is this the weakness of turbo powered cars??" Nah I think its that -6 degrees camber lmao

@bones6978 3 жыл бұрын

Camber doesn't kill tyres, toe does.

@MiikeyLawless 3 жыл бұрын

@@bones6978 excessive camber will wear tires faster.

@AdmiralStickney 3 жыл бұрын

@@bones6978 Camber will kill tires if its excessive, it'll reduce the grip and make the inside take the brunt of the wear even through corners which is not what you want.

@halolime117 2 жыл бұрын

@@bones6978 camber kills a lot of tires lol I work at a tire center 😂

@SpaceMissile 5 жыл бұрын

the shifting on those foot cams. amazing.

@manfromnantucket9544 7 жыл бұрын

Pushed the CRX too hard, driver was faster than the car

@gustavedorantejr4372 6 жыл бұрын

Best channel to watch some good old Honda's race

@mechanicandi1064 8 жыл бұрын

Top fuel always on point with there tuning

@angelohaka5322 8 жыл бұрын

N/A all day every day!

@mushy18100 7 жыл бұрын

angelo haka maximizing the full potential of an engine 👍🏼🏁

@chadw4638 7 жыл бұрын

How is naturally aspirated maximizing the engine when a turbo can add power and be more efficient?

@krocialblack 7 жыл бұрын

Chad W it's universally known that an N/A motor has access to it's rpm all the time, while turbos have to spool up to a certain rpm and boost sweet spot. On top of that,N/A motors are less likely to fail than a turbocharged motor, you can run all motor cars all day without a problem. Sure the turbo gets more power, but in the long run N/A is the more efficient and reliable circuit racing choice.

@chadw4638 7 жыл бұрын

Na is more reliable at times cause they produce less power. And a turbo engine when tuned the same is more efficient

@tanker9987 7 жыл бұрын

How are they more efficient? They usually lave a lower compression ratio, added weight, long intake piping if they use an inter-cooler and a big exhaust restriction. The only way cars can become more efficient with a turbo is by downsizing the engine or it's diesel.

@Cobourn003 9 жыл бұрын

its looks like the top fuel civic had a massive amount of negative camber in the front, i wonder if that was contributing to the tire wear , or even if that was causing the car to lose grip instead of the tires wearing out.. it looked like the espirit civic also had a high amount of negative camber but not as much as the top fuel. the n/a cars didnt have near as much camber up front. btw thankyou very much for all these videos miroshi!!! very glad i found your channel!

@derekpokphan8518 5 жыл бұрын

3 honda civics with spoon engines lol

@josearteaga9667 4 жыл бұрын

Dont forget the motech exhaust and sumi tires lol

@akihiko4036 4 жыл бұрын

and the T66 turbos

@rickym.9648 3 жыл бұрын

All that before it was cool!

@Pharaoh_The_Great 3 жыл бұрын

And NOS

@macnchillidogs1601 3 жыл бұрын

Lol

@merits89 9 жыл бұрын

Greatly appreciate it miroshi!!! Cant wait for the next video!! Thanks!

@kenpachizaraki8015 6 жыл бұрын

The funny thing about this race is the SS Work CRX only use a FCR Carburetor and still can compete with Turbo and ITB Civic lol..Hail to the Carby!

@fabrb26 9 жыл бұрын

2:27 spot the drift king... lol

@Gordon4Games 7 жыл бұрын

it's actaully a powerslide but whatever

@Flowermouth 7 жыл бұрын

Clippy He's saying that because the driver is Keiichi Tsuchiya. Also you can't powerslide an FF car lmao

@wombatonsteroids 7 жыл бұрын

Yes you can, he just did. Hell, a select few number of people have even managed to drift FWD cars. By no means are they good for, or designed for either of those two things, but if you have enough forward movement and drive and manage to throw the weight transfer and inertia, it's inevitable that the car will go sideways.

@SpaceMissile 5 жыл бұрын

"Scandinavian Flick!"

@MFUnicornBey 5 жыл бұрын

Why are people so fed up with the specifics, powerslide or not who cares, he tapped the brake to move weight forward, the rear went off and the car went into oversteer. Everything else is useless chat.

@Ютубовец Ай бұрын

Как же хорош этот Сивик! Великолепен хоть в стоке, хоть в любом тюнинге!

@ridinggravity703 9 жыл бұрын

always wanted to see a comparison like this

@MrWil7pr 9 жыл бұрын

Thanks miroshi awesome video keep doing a great job

@behopp 9 жыл бұрын

SS works FTW

@JohanSalvattore 8 жыл бұрын

That -camber on the top fuel civic though! Who says crazy -camber is only for silly stance lol

@fukkinkana 8 жыл бұрын

I'm not seeing any car here with ridiculous camber like how most Honda drivers have now days.

@JohanSalvattore 8 жыл бұрын

***** I was being sarcastic

@ancientapparition1638 5 жыл бұрын

whenever I see insane camber on a car I immediately die inside

@pavlolowry5441 5 жыл бұрын

Anyway its a Track car so if its efective i may let it pass, you see on driftcars but on a daily car ..

@thefuzzypickle8277 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he was complaining about tire wear lol

@21band 8 жыл бұрын

I love this auto... Miroshi... Is my dream auto

@sbfhawk4343 5 жыл бұрын

CRX had them all the way until the brakes begin to fade away. If his brakes were bigger those turbos would had no chance

@Saugusari11 7 жыл бұрын

aahhahahaha aaaa-aaaaa chappy at the end xD these are so good, they are just so natural and into it!

@TheMatsushitaMan 7 жыл бұрын

#1 is crazy fast. I'd be hardcore racing this everywhere. #2 is LOUD and nice!!! #3 sounds crazy. I love #3!!! #4 is a bit quieter. I would be having this as a daily car if I could.

@Pythonassum 5 жыл бұрын

now this is way more interesting than nascar

@power_of_r6033 8 жыл бұрын

ah the infamous n1 crank pulley on the 1.8l spoon civic spotted @0:28 nice

@duanebailey6253 6 жыл бұрын

For a Honda made products nothing is shittty on there n1 parts. What n1 pump are you reffering to I didnt think Honda made a n1 pump for the b-series. The n1 crank pulley is lighter helping the crank spin freely while still providing dampening.

@shaunkellister6597 9 жыл бұрын

Lovin these vidz

@MEECH247 5 жыл бұрын

That was amazing. Intense.

@abdullahamad7545 9 жыл бұрын

Great video

@traderryan713 Жыл бұрын

Tsukuba looks perfect for these cars. Just did a bunch of laps in GT6 w/ ek9. Same wheels i think. lol.

@louieanderson2847 7 жыл бұрын

They use 330 mm steering wheels?

@oscarzt1652 6 жыл бұрын

5:49 it sounded like the VTEC went back to the small cam lobe for a second.

@bobbobertson8410 3 жыл бұрын

My mates EP3 used to flick off vtec occasionally on hard cornering no idea why as I have never seen another EP3 do this... Then again never seen anyone who has the balls to drive ther EP3 like my mate did. Scary a hell 😰😰

@miralemnermina142 3 жыл бұрын

@@bobbobertson8410 oil starvation ;)

@asapbrazyssjblood1110 5 жыл бұрын

The Civic DoriDori was driving is sick doing 3 wheelies turns

@guigao28 6 жыл бұрын

Spoon for me... the coolest

@thappruchyarammabut9777 4 жыл бұрын

ปี2019 ผมก็ยังดูอยู่ครับ

@bernardovti 9 жыл бұрын

Good video

@jehdbrbjeirodofjdjebeebbsnaka Жыл бұрын

I love how the carbureted CRX dusts them all at the beginning lol

@EJ2BSeries 5 жыл бұрын

Why did they put a thick cylinder plate between the headgasket? This is oldschool and 90' ...today stock b16 and b18 with stock headgasket + can handle over 400whp. Are they not up to date in japan?

@ExciteLetsPlay 4 жыл бұрын

This is a 90s video lol

@tommy2059 7 жыл бұрын

the naturally aspirated didn't have his brake bled probably because he kept locking up the left front wheel even when turning right.

@nahrafe 6 жыл бұрын

Blue crx, love it!

@duncan7610 Жыл бұрын

What shows is this ??

@billypoe3703 5 жыл бұрын

My dream car is: a Civic EK with 1.8 Turbo, stripped interior, with Spoon everything.

@danialroxx 5 жыл бұрын

Wow what a race

@DreamsOfGaruda 9 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you!

@tr6864 5 жыл бұрын

Why they change it to carburetor system ? Any advantages ?

@illewmenadeh722 5 жыл бұрын

Same question here

@michaelgrandmaison1923 4 жыл бұрын

EF? vs EK? Where's the EG? Even video games forget the eg hatch and how legendary the car is... 😪

@mikeswanson7029 4 жыл бұрын

In Japan they didnt have the eg hatch. Only the coupe and they 4 dr

@quirble 4 жыл бұрын

? the japanese had the EG6. you can find videos of tuned EG6 on this channel, spoon has covered them before.

@jeanlessage7560 4 жыл бұрын

Mike Swanson eg6 is jdm Civic sir II hatchback

@michaeldavidmontalvo2402 4 жыл бұрын

@@mikeswanson7029 you got it way wrong friend

@oliviersavard8676 4 жыл бұрын

EG is older and I believe a bit lighter but not as rigid as the EK

@napalmman8292 5 жыл бұрын

That gear ratio on the spoon civic

@macnchillidogs1601 3 жыл бұрын

This pleases my VTEC

@k24hybrid 4 жыл бұрын

This HV seems more exciting than normal heheh do you think the footage is slightly accelerated (Fast Forward)?

@ej22_gc86 4 жыл бұрын

k24hybrid clearly not, it would shake a whole lot more and it would be obvious

@k24hybrid 4 жыл бұрын

@@ej22_gc86 nice! 😉

@inaamaltaf9471 5 жыл бұрын

to all the amaricans out there who say "fwd dont need rear wing" look at the crx, the only car with a wing also the only car that doesn't swing its ass like a happy dog.

@0371998 6 жыл бұрын

Someone know why the new type of Honda " 2017 " are made with Turbo and not with Turbo + vtec ? An Ingenior problem ?

@gurjindersingh199 6 жыл бұрын

Mithra Charon only the new type r is a good Honda the 1.5T is rubbish

@skippy2987 5 жыл бұрын

It's only vtec in the exhaust side anyway. Might as well have a D16 :p

@illewmenadeh722 5 жыл бұрын

They are made with VTEC but they use reverse VTEC to help the turbo with spooling up

@skippy2987 5 жыл бұрын

But really it's just for cost reasons. If you can get the required emissions and performance without vtec there's no point having it.

@reycuerdos 4 жыл бұрын

Sounds better than F1 today.

@godzilla12325 Жыл бұрын

3:04 holy shit look at the camber on the front wheel 😂 i thought it was broken for a second lol mental

@spikespiegel4835 7 жыл бұрын

on 7:08 was he double shifting??

@HS-zm4ow 6 жыл бұрын

He was having trouble getting into gears

@motol1993 8 жыл бұрын

can't you just apply full throttle to fling the fwd car back in a straight line when its oversteering?

@yaushaas 8 жыл бұрын

i'm guessing you never tried lol. i've done it yes, it will correct you but being that far sideways and full throttle it will fling you so hard idk if human hands/arms are even fast enough to straighten the wheel back. When I tried, I was like a loose skateboard going crazy down hill.

@Igor56322 7 жыл бұрын

yes, the motor makes the car go straight back

@Bethhh420 7 жыл бұрын

yeah if you have a 140 HP car, if you floor it while losing control when you have a turbo you'll lose traction

@kevysrandomstuff5835 Жыл бұрын

yeah but to much and if wheel spin, this will make the car still go in the direction of its current inertia

@eludethis Жыл бұрын

That was entertaining!😂

@iainchan 7 жыл бұрын

3:33 dori dori on 3 wheels hahaha

@oliviersavard8676 4 жыл бұрын

Noticed that too, the swaybar seems pretty stiff

@iainchan 4 жыл бұрын

@@oliviersavard8676 I might be wrong but these stiffer setups work quite well on track

@Sub___Zero 8 жыл бұрын

Turbo 4ever. In this or after life !

@Datboi-qq4de 3 жыл бұрын

These guys are just having fun lol

@fresh0678 2 жыл бұрын

Homeboy saved it fucking amazingly.

@terryloweh 9 жыл бұрын

what on earth is an FCR carb?

@power_of_r6033 9 жыл бұрын

+Terry Low individual throttle body (itb) made by FCR is what i believe they are referring to @1:12

@lutherblissett9070 8 жыл бұрын

+Terry Low Keihin bike carbs

@ricardovilla7676 4 жыл бұрын

SPOON!!!!!!!!!!

@godemperormeow8591 4 жыл бұрын

Aerodynamics for the win.

@SHIBATANTYUSU 7 ай бұрын

VTECは上まで回すときの音がたまんないよな〜☺

@Nobody7720 3 жыл бұрын

8:36 Me every time with a girl. Can never get the stick in gear before the motor blows.

@francescorovegno4529 Жыл бұрын

Fucking amazing race!!!!

@gabelopez5774 9 жыл бұрын

What's n/a?

@cherokn2523 8 жыл бұрын

+Gabriel Lopez Naturally Aspirated. No turbo.

@mushy18100 7 жыл бұрын

Shimmering Death NA means Naturally Aspirated or All Motor (Non Turbo) all bolt ons just fine tuned

@St1m0rroL 7 жыл бұрын

N/A = atmo?

@laclede1355 4 жыл бұрын

means for Naturally Aspirated yes Ca sent le français XD

@cincysilvia8807 2 жыл бұрын

not surprised with the turbo complaining of tires. with the fronts doing all the work it makes sense loads going to be worse

@guillaumechauvet 8 жыл бұрын

are they saying the crx has a b16b bored or stroked to 2000cc or are they saying it has 2000cc injectors?

@hondahillracing 8 жыл бұрын

+redshift_QCrx7 bored or stroked to 2000cc

@mohdshukor9642 8 жыл бұрын

use fcr carburetor..

@vitalioz 9 жыл бұрын

CRX!

@Mr.Takahash1 4 жыл бұрын

That CR-X would have won if it had some racing stripes on.

@equill5697 3 жыл бұрын

6:25 Vtec:hello da Vtec Turbo:nani?! Vtec:bye :D

@shombiedixon7017 9 жыл бұрын

Time attack crx don't f off. Type R civic came for em tho. Raw azz race.

@dkvperformance 2 жыл бұрын

@equill5697 4 жыл бұрын

Like:civic type r Comment:civic cr-x :) Edit: 6:22 NANI!?

@majjegaming5927 Жыл бұрын

Crx is a weapon

@Tombrosapien 4 жыл бұрын

EK’s are so cute looking

@TheShamiester 2 жыл бұрын

Turbo cars when they see a straight “I am speed” xD

@christopherlopez6668 4 жыл бұрын

No entiendo nada lo q dice pero q buenas naves

@timothyrinaldi6609 6 жыл бұрын

Crx definitely need better short shifter

@jasonswanson8885 5 жыл бұрын

True Japanese videos...reminds me of the old karate movies...lol

@Pro60modman 2 жыл бұрын

I now understand why that chinese turbo company called themselves SSworks in the beginning.

@twincammike8329 5 жыл бұрын

If the race was any longer the the turbo would start to over heat and lose power...then the NA would of taken them....

@chrisperrish9535 3 жыл бұрын

N/A.... all day.... 👍

@bertrerbear 6 жыл бұрын

Dam that sucks, he went from 1st to 4th at the last minute

@ericdrisgula3879 4 жыл бұрын

Looks like the crx woulda won if he didn't have a failing left rear brake line in the car.

@AugmentedGravity 4 жыл бұрын

NA for life

@WipeoutXXXX 9 жыл бұрын

+Gabriel Lopez N/A stands for naturally aspirated, which means the car isnt booted by a turbo, turbos generate more tire wear, more potential failures and with that a huge loss of power, this means N/A engines are mostly more reliable and economic/cheaper aswell. If you put in a turbo you need to adjust many things or the turbo is worthless under the hood, its more pricier aswell. The Power a N/A Engine creates is constantly and more balanced at lower, mid and High rpms, the turbo gives the most Power in the higher segment of rpms and is lass balanced, hope that helped.

@Cricis11700 7 жыл бұрын

twin sequential turbos is the answer to your argument.

@Dany2001bro 4 жыл бұрын

Who said front wheel can't drift 🚗💨 2:30

@TURE1215 4 жыл бұрын

That was snap oversteer, a drift is when power is sent to the rear wheels, this was a slide

@denis_vr6 8 жыл бұрын

turbo

@nikolayvorobyev1697 9 жыл бұрын

ах какой звук

@octavioavellaneda4105 Жыл бұрын

La mayor ofensa que le podes hacer a un Honda es ponerle un turbo

@kevysrandomstuff5835 Жыл бұрын

Awaits silly comment that v8s would win in this

@khairilrosmi4981 4 жыл бұрын

+1 shingo points

@imcnblu 4 жыл бұрын

"Tire wear is severe." Maybe if more than 1/8 of it was in contact with the road, you'd get more than two miles out of them. _THAT_ much camber is _NOT_ beneficial in any way. No car with a half decent suspension is going to transfer that much weight to the point that the contact patch is level. Under no circumstances does even a track prepped road car need to run more than 2.5-to-3° of negative camber. _ESPECIALLY_ up front in a FRONT WHEEL DRIVE car!