보통 첫째들이 그러더라고요 금쪽같은 내새끼에도 첫째가 그러는 거 많이 나와ㅛ음 ㅠ

첫째들.. 슬픔과 속상함을 말로 표현하지 못하고 자기 나름의 다른 방법으로 표현하나 방법이 틀려서 혼나고 더 숨기게 되는..ㅠ

마자 내였으면 집으로 복귀하거나 조팻다ㅋㅋ

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아직 어린 나이이긴 맞지만 커서 갑자기 한순간에 되는건 없어요 잘 안돼도 수십 수백번 반복해서 가르쳐야 하더라구요 그 과정이 부모로써 힘든거 같습니다 ㅠㅠ

엄격한 부모 아래 애들 훨씬 잘 큼 예의 바르게

​@@user-hy2os7db8s 아닌 경우도 많이 보긴 했습니다.. 오히려 삐딱해지는 경우도 정말 많이 봤어요 결국은 부모가 그냥 엄하냐 생각은 있으면서 엄하냐의 차이인듯

@@user-hy2os7db8s 시대가 바뀌면서 그게쫌 위험함 사회에서 다른이들을 보며 자기는 불행하다고 느끼는경우가 요즘엔 많음 예의 이런걸 떠나서 자식이 성인이되고 마음속에 병이 있는건 너무 마음이 아플듯..

@@user-hy2os7db8s겉으로는 그래보이지만 속은 상처받고 문드러진 애들 많다 그래서 그런 아이들은 남들한테는 싹싹하게 잘해도 부모님이랑은 서먹하고 서로 간 벽이 있지

그렇겠어요 정말..

아니 근데 하하 나만 이해 안 가나요.. 드림이가 엄청 심하게 한 것도 아닌 것 같은데 너무 오바하는 것 같기도 하구요

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ+뭐가 죄송한데

훈계질하네 ㅋㅋㅋ

Haha is not a great dad. He doesn't try to understand his son and gets mad whenever his son tries to speak about how he feels. Haha scolds his son constantly even when he really hasn't done anything egregiously wrong. This outing is not "cute" either. This comment sections is just full of people who want to believe that the celebrity that they're seeing is a good person, but what people are really seeing is someone who wants to control his son to the point that the son develops a personality disorder. Haha should seek help.

@@user-os5sq7jj3j well atleast Haha has 3 kids and based on what I observed, they listened very well. Every dad has their own way to teach their children. Being scolded doesn't mean they're wrong. If it's his way to discipline them then let it be. The millennials like me experienced the worst kind of discipline and even heard the most painful words from parents. Kids nowadays are way different. So being scolded is just normal.

@@user-bx2dy5jq9n The number of children a parent has DOES NOT justify how a parent should treat their children. Furthermore, the children may only listen to their father "very well" here, because 1. This is a TV Show, and there's only a limited amount of information to suggest that the children listen well (although I'm skeptical of this, because the son CLEARLY doesn't listen well); 2. The TV show can select which scenes are most appealing to viewers. 3. The children are fearful that their father would reprimand them after the TV show is done. SOOOOOO, your first argument is invalid. To your point that "every dad has their own way to teach their children", hmmm would you mind elaborating on this? Do you think that scolding children for absolutely nothing and embarrassing in front of the camera is actually good parenting? I don't think so. I also sympathize that you are a millennial that experienced bad parenting. This is even more reason to tell yourself that this is NOT normal. You should not normalize people who cause pain to their children and make them develop personality disorders. Haha should seek help.

@@user-os5sq7jj3j brou i just watch the whole clip and trying to see where is the "haha is trying to control their child to the point that the son develops a personality disorder" and I still couldn't find it. in this clips its obvious that both haha and dream are agitated and tired, they kept missing the point that's why they're not communicating properly, with haha kept pushing for answer and dream who couldn't answer properly. but both are in the wrong. "hasnt done anything egregiously wrong" is still a wrong, every parents has their own moral compass on how to discipline/educate their child (obv not talking about abusive parenting). and you couldn't just deem a person unfit to become a parent just from how they perceive themself in a tv show............

@@sabrinabree28 Hi Sabrina, thanks for your kind reply. Perhaps I should have been clearer about my statements. I think that there is a LEGITIMATE POSSIBILITY THAT DREAM WILL DEVELOP A PERSONALITY DISORDER if he is subject to this kind of parenting on a daily basis. As you have mentioned, not everything that we see on a TV show may be representative of their actual daily behavior, but I would imagine that people are typically on their best behavior when they're being broadcasted publicly. I would also argue that Haha forcibly grabbing Dream by the jaw and insisting that he must listen can be perceived as a sign of oppression and subjugation by Dream; these are definitely factors that could contribute to the development of personality disorders (so perhaps your observations and their interpretations are different from mine). Your statement that "Dream hasn't done anything wrong is still a wrong" makes me think that you're advocating for children being punished even when there is no practical reason that they should be punished. This can be confusing for the child given that punishment can be associated with things that should not be punishable. I also think that moral values are relative. However, there are certain moral standards that should be applied in all circumstances (e.g., not punishing a child when that child hasn't done anything bad). I still think Haha is unfit to be a parent. I hope my reasoning is clear. If not, let me know what points I can clarify or feel free to reject any of my claims and show your reasoning behind your argument.

이제시작😅

동감 ㅋㅋㅋ 아니 초4면 이제 11살된건데 만으로는 10살 아니면 9살임. 근데 무슨 사춘기야 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그리고 드림이 하는거 보면 뭐 딱히 대단히 불량하거나 반항적이지 않는데 자꾸 그렇게 몰아가려는 경향이 있음. 저 정도가 사춘기면 중2병이란 말이 없겠죠. 어린이한테 자꾸 사춘기 어쩌구 하지말고 4-5년 더 기다려보길.

​@@user-wy8wj1wl2n 보통 저때쯤부터 슬슬 사춘기가 심해져서 중2때 절정을 찍는 거임

@@user-gw7ts9yw9s 뭔솔 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 니가 뭔데 10살한테 사춘기래

사춘기는 3~4학년쯤 한 번 오고 그때 잘 안넘기면 중2때쯤 심각하게 옴... 저 나잇대는 부모말 어쩔수없이 들으니 어찌어찌 넘어가니 모르지.

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ맞는말이네요

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 하하도 어렷을적 꽤나 말 안들었을거같은 ㅋㅋㅋ

ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅇㅈ

어린아이라고 어른들의 배려에 당연하듯 받아들이고 무시하는듯한 행동은 다시 가르쳐줄필요도있어보입니다만 😊초등학생조카도있는데 어린이라도 다알아요

경주월드 같아요!

엄할수록 덜 삐뚤어지는거 같아요^^

​@@soo671 그건 아닙니다.....

충분히 사람대 사람으로써 저럴수있음 무슨 삐뚤어져 시불 드라마찍나