[Eng/sub] Seungkwan & Jeonghan versions on HYBE Face recognition incident

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Neither English nor Korean are my first language & exact subtitles are also not available to 2nd live. So I translated it 🔄🔤 with little knowledge I have.
Disclaimer: Subtitles in this video are not accurate 🚫
Credits to rightful owners:-
1) original video of Jeonghan & Dk live: • [210816] Jeonghan & DK...
2) SVT club original video link: • How Seventeen Behaves ...
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@msj0015 2 жыл бұрын

It's really great that HYBE building has very tight security system. Bcz all HYBE artists has huge popularity around the world. It's a must need.

@0111mango 2 жыл бұрын

but that system sucks big time.. imagine baing locked in a closed room without anyone or a phone and you have anxiety.. I'm shaking just thinking of it.

@b2st836 2 жыл бұрын

I was about to say just use a normal card scanner cause why use a not reliable face recognition, but then I reached the part where they said the card also didn’t work… so nvm 😂

@haNa_0709 2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter if they are popular or not... Artists deserve such security systems be it anybody!!!

@reylizabercasio9546 2 жыл бұрын

@@b2st836 It may be because there are too many staff and artists. Any system can break down if usage is too long without break. Imagine how many staff and artists are going in and out of the building. I think what they can do, is to have someone monitor the security system so that when incidents happen like the one mentioned, someone could come to help.

@maykabyar811 2 жыл бұрын

Yes this system can take care all artists from sasseng fans

@hey-cv8on 2 жыл бұрын

When jessi said it's hard to get in and once you get in it's hard to get out from hybe my girl wasn't kidding cause damn it's a whole military zone

@SekarNailahK 2 жыл бұрын

When did she mention it?

@hey-cv8on 2 жыл бұрын

@@SekarNailahK in her interview with txt

@hanafarhanatteyeh1601 2 жыл бұрын

Showterview with TXT

@rufydatasnur4204 Жыл бұрын

Recently on a fromis 9 video ,they were facing the same problem 😭. Jeonghan is definitely telling the truth.

@cutaebear1109 11 ай бұрын

I mean understandable, they have one of the biggest stars in their office just chillin and doing lives, shoots and what not, they'd need the security. Even their artists have a hard time getting in lmao

@Hanihae_17 Жыл бұрын

I learned 3 things today, 1. For Jeonghan details are very important, he needs to explain everything to make it funny and understandable😂 2. Jeonghan get impatient if gets stuck bcz of anything like shoes, tap or security system 😆3. DK won't stop eating no matter how interesting your story is.🤣🤣

@igotpushed5490 Жыл бұрын

Omg Idk anything about Seventeen much but from this I felt like Jeonghan is just like me lol I also talk in detail & get annoyed like this 😂 No wonder he likes Jungwon the most in Enhypen & I like Jungwon too lol 😂

@Varacle 11 ай бұрын

DK is me, food is very important 😂

@dj_naninuneno 11 ай бұрын

Very well said 😂👏🏻

@sonalisamal2009 10 ай бұрын

This made me realise how I'm like Jeonghan too, when explaining something. I also need to go into details, or I don't feel satisfied. 😂❤

@callmefars 2 жыл бұрын

Jeonghan: exposes HYBE SS unintentionally DK: listens carefully with glimpse of worry Vernon: *left the vlive for his life*

@amesora1553 2 жыл бұрын

Vernon yeets himself out of the Vlive for damage control. I think, if we combined Jeonghan & Seokjin, they got a long receipt about their complains towards the company 😂 Jokes asides, the security system was super tight, even Jeonghan handsomness can't passed it 😆

@nes3923 2 жыл бұрын

Imagine Jin and jeonghan doing a vlive together that definitely would be the vlive of the year😂😂

@amesora1553 2 жыл бұрын

@@nes3923 Bruh, I could never! 😂 Maybe that time I really invest money to watch it officially & legally 😆

@nes3923 2 жыл бұрын

@@amesora1553 same here tbh😂😂

@Loriani93 2 жыл бұрын

wait what did jin say

@iileana946 2 жыл бұрын

@@nes3923 omg I need this now 😭

@annatran9556 2 жыл бұрын

this is so funny. i’m happy that our hybe artists have the right security systems

@k.orberg6367 Жыл бұрын

Hybe security be like "I'm not gonna open until you show me some aegyo~"

@Joy-de8vc Жыл бұрын

Glad it wasn't woozi OtHErWiSe..that security system 😂

@viennehernandez4492 Жыл бұрын

The fact that Jeonghan actually locks the door of their hotel and makes Dk do aegyo makes this funnier 😭😭😭

@hobitenshi 2 жыл бұрын

damm hybe do be protecting their artists that much and then jeonghan here just exposed it and explained it all detailedly LMAO im crying-

@jayayyy2878 2 жыл бұрын

They exposing HYBE security system unintentionally is funny

@hanifaharfiatulhaq9617 2 жыл бұрын

All jokes aside, let's give a round of applause for the security system 😂 it's safe so sasaeng won't be able to get in easily

@estradacrystallyndellt.5478 Жыл бұрын

@@taetenmin4009 if jeonghan's face did not even work, I don't think the merch would.

@TAKIZAWAYAMASHITA Жыл бұрын

No merch wouldn't work. Face id systems work by using depth sensors and ir camera's so a 2d image won't work and in addition to this the ir sensors are looking for heat. This is so you can't kill the person and use their head to open the door. So tldr pictures won't work it has to see the full face and head =3d, can't get this from Merch. Plus has to see body heat indicating they are alive and not a robot or puppet/dummy. It also protects them because if someone wanted inside they can't harm them because the system won't let a dead person in you're forced to keep em alive

@bryn_zi 11 ай бұрын

@LanClanPrincess pls I’m laughing deadly omg

@cutaebear1109 11 ай бұрын

@@taetenmin4009considering the actual, real face itself didn't work neither did the card, It wouldn't work but that's not the only reason why it won't open, The face recognition system has in depth sensors that scan your face and separates each facial expression, key point of the face, facial geometric pattern. The resolution has to be the same, if it's an image, it's raw and the lighting would be different, the pattern would be different, the face would be obstructed and edited. There's lots of factors to explain why it won't work, the place I used to intern at had these and it was a war every morning trying to get that darn thing to let me in while trying to keep my eyes open.

@kdramaaddict6431 4 ай бұрын

@@victorspeachare u kidding? wheres the security there lol.

@minbeomu 2 жыл бұрын

It makes so much sense to have tight security... HYBE has the biggest kpop artists right now. The content of these artists and knowing how HYBE (I’m assuming this isnt only a Big Hit thing) plans things months before release, it makes sense that its absolutely strict.

@watashiwakirayoshikage2584 2 жыл бұрын

Dispatch: Did u break in HYBE? Dispatch staff: I kinda did, kinda didn't. Dispatch: What do u mean? Dispatch staff: I'm stuck

@se7nn1120 Жыл бұрын

You know they have facial recognition at the main entrance, right? lol They'd be stuck at the entrance 😂😂😂

@user-lq2mu1kc4r 2 жыл бұрын

Jeonghan and Jessi they both don't like the hybe system Hahaha

@jeonsprncesssuh9624 2 жыл бұрын

Lol yeaaah

@namjoonsgf9413 2 жыл бұрын

can I know where Jessi said that?

@jeonsprncesssuh9624 2 жыл бұрын

@@namjoonsgf9413 jessi showterview, when she interviewed TXT

@lizzboss3036 2 жыл бұрын

why don't they like it?

@user-lq2mu1kc4r 2 жыл бұрын

@@lizzboss3036 because of the hybe system they didn't easy to enter the building if your identity is not enought to recognize you on system🤣

@mariaarcelie3879 2 жыл бұрын

when these two going to vlive together pretty sure their live the next day will vanished😆😂 they'll spoil everything 😆 but jokes aside HYBE'S security system is very tight and good I'm glad that if someone's planning to break in they can't enter easily

@udiana2887 2 жыл бұрын

Thats why jessi said the security system in hybe is so serious, they cant joke around. She was struggling to find the practice room to film her show with txt ep at that time 😭 it took abt 30 mins to find the place bcs she got lost in the building lol

@mariaarcelie3879 2 жыл бұрын

@@udiana2887 now I remember how lee hyun got lost searching for his studio it took him 30 minutes to find it😭😂 even his manager got lost too

@udiana2887 2 жыл бұрын

@@mariaarcelie3879 ikr 😭 and then more incidents like yeonjun accidentally barged in minhyun's room during his vlive filming. I heard that gfriend often locked their room bcs accidents like these can happen. Ppl that dont have a sense of direction will definitely can get lost, like yuju 😭

@fightmebtch Жыл бұрын

Jeonghan is so relatable to me. I can have all the patience and calmness in the world, but I lose it on small things. Like when I drop my keys, or shoes won't go in, it just sets me off for some reason, it's crazy. But I can handle a pan on fire with calmness

@amalnash3730 2 жыл бұрын

HYBE building is like a royal palace you get security check the whole time. I guess even the NIS don't have such a security system 😂😂😂😂

@mimidash4080 2 жыл бұрын

ahhh i wonder if jeonghan's ears is okay after all that company nagging the next day for this vlive.hehehe..im sure many staff having headache after this security leak..saseng sure is scary.

@dellaryn 2 жыл бұрын

Even the hybe building security system is more safe than the bank lol

@rosieposie9728 Жыл бұрын

I know it’s out of the topic but Vernon living the vlive is just so funny 😂

@useruseruser588 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know this live got taken down but I was thinking that Jeonghan shouldn't talk about the security system in so much detail😂 but I'm glad to know HYBE artists are safe even if it gets annoying sometimes

@kdramaaddict6431 4 ай бұрын

Yes because exposing the security is compromsing the security itself.

@zzzonline 2 жыл бұрын

lmao I'm cracking up like vernon just quickly left the vlive cause he don't wanna be involved 😭😂

@fathiafebriani8224 2 жыл бұрын

ofc the security system is very tight because last time jtbc broke into hybe/bh old building. aside from jtbc we know that ssgs have their own ways to get closer to them. even jessi said it took her 30 minutes to get in

@copelien766 2 жыл бұрын

Someone said this. Aside from sasaeng. This is all because jtbc break in the company😂😂😂😂

@xxcalliex_ 2 жыл бұрын

That's right

@naomiemannings6499 2 жыл бұрын

You reminded me of how pissed off we are at that time. Lmao

@zaivncx 2 жыл бұрын

may I know what happen?

@maria1921 2 жыл бұрын

@@zaivncx basically jtbc broke into the old bithit building and then made a news/statement saying that BTS and their families are suing bithit and bighit has the cctv footage of them videotapeing and breaking on

@copelien766 2 жыл бұрын

@@naomiemannings6499 hahahahahaha. I'll never forget that shit 😂😂

@keitilamperouge6868 2 жыл бұрын

Jeonghan face structure is not your typical. (Saw this a lot, one reference is one whom made Jeonghan clay sculpture) He got perfect balance of western and eastern. He has no prominent specific featured but that's what makes him more attractive. His face is equally distributed to perfection. Each angle of Jeonghan face is different it's hard go capture it. So that's why carats joke that a machine can't recognise an angel.

@DailyNight1502 2 жыл бұрын

WOW....HYBE Security system so high, I think even ghost can't get in😂😂

@jomiejoanjoseph6319 2 жыл бұрын

Seunkwan n DK are the ones with the best expressions. Hope they get a chance to use this in drama or films

@movnishaca9505 2 жыл бұрын

Jeonghan was literally looking at Dokyeom the whole time even tho dk was busy eating🥺 I'll probably die single😭

@joons3707 Жыл бұрын

thanks to jtbc breaking into bighit to find 'hot' bts news, bang pd must be really mad about tht he said none of my artists will experienced tht shit again and took the security to the next level.

@icheloveyou 2 жыл бұрын

the HYBE security system is taking revenge for everything that Jeonghan did to all his members that all of the sebongs can't do to him hahahaha

@stefh7801 2 жыл бұрын

😭

@zariyahlouisse5366 2 жыл бұрын

Txt sometimes sleep there & it's good that has a tight security. Hybe artist also enter underground not in the entrance of the building. It's tight security because their preventing the accident way back 2018

@Hash9980 2 жыл бұрын

Jeonghan my man, security systems are there for a reason, and should not be talked about in detail otherwise it defeats the purpose of it being “secure” He went on a whole rant though so apparently he was very frustrated to say the least. I think now they gotta fix that bug of the system not recognizing his face, and change some of the security protocol. Good job Jeonghan 😂

@evimin5326 2 жыл бұрын

That's true, I'm now a little nervous

@bluegrays9872 10 ай бұрын

Apparently the original live where this video is from got removed because he talked about Hybe security

@kdramaaddict6431 4 ай бұрын

Jeonghan should transfer to a company with a poor security instead and realize that hybe is the best

@juliemaeapostol894 2 жыл бұрын

Ofc security system will be very tight there because even JTBC broke inside the old Big Hit building just to make a bad news about BTS and Big Hit.

@AmiF-ok1to Жыл бұрын

DK about to finish three servings and Hannie still wouldn't be done explaining all the intricacies of the event 😂

@jadavanvi1149 Жыл бұрын

Hybe security is indeed needed as they have great artists such as BTS Seventeen Txt Enhypen Also le sserafim New jeans Formis 9 too So it's needed definately

@jeonghanpetrock 2 жыл бұрын

one of the many reasons why jeonghan is my ultimate bias

@melklee.05 Жыл бұрын

when Jessi went to interview TXT she said that the security was so tight and there were so many check points...hybe's security is on another level fr

@aki9644 Жыл бұрын

I work in a place that does face recognition, maybe its different from the hybe security maybe its the same, but when i started working there, i also had a hard time to have my face recognised until older employees told me a trick, they said that it really doesnt recognise your face but your eyes alignment in their registry so you really have to stand in an angle that it will see your eyes clearly. Face recognition security has been known to give hard time to those who were rushing or has a short temper 😂 thankfully we've switched to fingerprint now, so its easier. But good job for HYBE since they protect their artist really well

@Loriani93 2 жыл бұрын

They should use eye recognition instead of face recognition, I worked at the airport and they had this eye recognition for airport staff it works quite well 95% of the time. But then again face recognition on phones works just fine too so🤔

@spadespade2393 2 жыл бұрын

i'm curious if it also works if you're wearing contacts?

@doraaaa0613 2 жыл бұрын

@@spadespade2393 mm with an iris scanner i think it would be fine with clear contacts, not quite sure about colored ones. i think it recognizes iris patterns and im not sure if colored lenses change those patterns in any way since ive never worn them. so colored lenses might be a problem if its an iris scanner. but with retinal scanners contacts don't matter edit: im not sure if retinal scanning is used outside of medical purposes though

@hyeranabi2784 2 жыл бұрын

"seungkwan story is not funny bcs he left all the main part" yes jeonghan thats why seungkwan vlive is still there meanwhile your vlive is not...🤦🏻‍♀️ +yo whattt 1.3k likes?!?! thank youuu

@inassalima4070 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@reikanadia5526 2 жыл бұрын

Really???

@hyeranabi2784 2 жыл бұрын

@@reikanadia5526 yup his vlive got deleted😂😂

@tskrtskr 2 жыл бұрын

LMAO😆

@bitingsquirrel21 2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@kayefine7070 Жыл бұрын

this is so funny. but what really caught my attention is when Seokmin said that it makes him angry at times too, with that we understand how frustrating it could be. LOL

@mwrkhyuck Жыл бұрын

he's so cute he always look dokyeoms eyes while telling the story😭

@trinity4476 Жыл бұрын

Protecting the artist so well that even they can't get in

@kdramaaddict6431 4 ай бұрын

They were just new back then, for sure its not the same now. plus maybe he put in a lot of mske up lol

@karolinavizintin9358 2 жыл бұрын

Lol thats why this live is not available anymore

@minayoon4 2 жыл бұрын

the security is having a hard time recognizing an angel's face

@zariyahlouisse5366 2 жыл бұрын

Having bts, svt, txt and en of course they are all big.

@moonchild9168 Жыл бұрын

It's great that they have a system like that, sasaengs over there r really crazy n ofcoz its the building which is the workplace for the world famous artists , they need it.

@AManOf_Culture 2 жыл бұрын

Seems like I won't need to tell anyone why he is my bias. Everything is fine here.

@komokosai 2 жыл бұрын

Strict security is bad news for sasaengs...i luv itttttt

@athulyanair5194 Жыл бұрын

Seems like hybe loves trolling jeonghan.... They are loving his reaction... It's always him😅😅... But I hope they will fix this problem sometime it might turn into a major issue as he said once u enter you can't go back and all...

@somjishu_ 7 ай бұрын

omg i remembered I came across this clip years ago, watched it and im not even an actual fan before hahaha now i saw this again as a fan

@rinindibox4906 2 жыл бұрын

when your looks are too out of this world that AI can't recognize you

@anime-ye1qs Жыл бұрын

In Knowing Bros, we know more about the situation There are more levels - in front of practice room - 1, the practice room door itself is also a checkpoint 😂 But seriously, it may seem annoying in these types of situations but they are doing their best to protect their idols

@hyeflwr-zip7799 2 жыл бұрын

iris scanners or thumbprint scanners could work better like in the case someones eyes get puffy or theyre wearing masks but naurr they HAD to use a face scanner 😭😭

@nathalykim1263 Жыл бұрын

I'm a crazy paranoid person who's a fan of several artists from hybe and I'm very glad they are tight af with security there are really some crazy people out there, it's better to have every protection possible

@bluegrays9872 10 ай бұрын

We don't thank the Hybe enough for the good things they do

@JonnieR 11 ай бұрын

Omygosh! HYBE knows that they need to protect their assets haha! But the triple security system tho? Haha! I would think a face recognition is an overkill, but if you think about it, safety is an utmost importance, especially if there are crazies out their. We cannot really tell what goes in their minds.

@MansiSinghh Жыл бұрын

Why is this so funny? Poor jeonghan 😂😂😂😂😂😂

@aki-vt3yr Жыл бұрын

I can understand where jeonghan is coming from 😂 where i work we use face recognition too, first at the entrance then at the main work room. If you cant get recognised at the entrance, there are guards that can help you as long as you got id. but in the main work room you have to do it alone, so if youre in a rush and the system cant recognise you no matter what, and people are already looking, and sometimes line can form behind you, it can get frustrating 😂😂

@sonianatashagail Жыл бұрын

The hybe building door didnt open, but my heart opened

@JUNGKOOK-rm6fu Жыл бұрын

Espero que puedan arreglar bien el sistema, deben revisarlo constantemente, si ocurriera alguna emergencia y la puerta no se abriera sería peligroso :(

@jazzylee6840 2 жыл бұрын

LOL ONLY SEUNGKWAN IS SCARED BUT STILL TELLS

@koofusedarmy4387 8 ай бұрын

Just make him and Jin the CEO of HYBE! I can imagine it 💀

@imgonnaputsomebroccoliinyo3006 Жыл бұрын

HYBE: Let's tighten the security, install face recognition to enter Staff: Ok nice how about going out? HYBE: No need, they just need to enter. Keepin things just secure 😂😂😂

@nishilee3029 Жыл бұрын

So this is the story of HYBE elevator... aayyooo

@ericalee0610 2 жыл бұрын

아이고 얼마나 답답했을지...

@Hanachulset Жыл бұрын

And got even funnier as they expose this on national TV as well on knowing Bros hahahahaha

@akio1489 2 жыл бұрын

i hope hybe make artists card. poor them

@jordanbeavers157 2 жыл бұрын

That suuuuckkks....but is also hilarious

@nursahin9746 11 ай бұрын

Dk finished the meal while jeonghan was talking hahahaha

@lynyun 10 ай бұрын

Maybe they should consider having dedicated staffs to manually take care of issues like this when it happens tho

@ms.official3 3 ай бұрын

Jeonghan sweety , even if you stayed there longer you could not have broken the door 😂😂😂

@bamtori3751 2 жыл бұрын

Hi. where can i watch the second vid, where DK telling the story behind the story of jeonghan and his shoes?

@niyor4794 2 жыл бұрын

Svt club it's on vlive

@justmesuri4311 11 ай бұрын

They didnt install camera at that area? Is there any security room there?

@adgirl2674 Жыл бұрын

#seventeen 😆💗✨

@woozihae 11 ай бұрын

Naurrr as someone who has anger issues this is me😭😭 It's so hard to control it 😭

@mikaelaswift8498 Жыл бұрын

it's good that the company has tight security but they should fix the face recog system. What if there's an emergency and they can't open the door to go out

@nicoleloss7987 Жыл бұрын

They already fixed it

@tofusius27 Жыл бұрын

Why not use finger print security system? I think it's more accurate than face recognition since some people may have similar face features especialy in Korea. *cough cough*

@satyachowdary5291 Жыл бұрын

face recognisation means it doesn't really scan the face it scans the eyes

@xoluciaxo_3721 2 жыл бұрын

Everybody praising Hybe's security system but actually this just proofs its faulty and they still haven't fixed it

@nicoleloss7987 Жыл бұрын

They have a amazing security system.

@charliemedrano3744 Жыл бұрын

It's all game, fun and frustrations. But when a trespasser got in again and took ANY artist's IP in that building 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 people will be mad about security again.

@khushiwarsi4762 11 ай бұрын

BTS, svt, TXT, enhypen, le sserafim, new jeans. I mean what else could you expect. Half of the big kpop groups are from this company so that's so obvious

@justwatchingrandomly 2 жыл бұрын

HYBE needs to fix that system though cos it seems frustrating for everyone

@arifahradzi8556 11 ай бұрын

prolly out of context but someone know what dk was eating ? it somehow looks like a delicious dish for me 😭

@matchafeverrr1982 Жыл бұрын

Jeonghan really trust carats tho ahaha

@nini2972 Жыл бұрын

i like the thought but wow it’s a bit too extra and what’s so damn annoying is that it doesn’t work sometimes???? this is a problem fr what if someone gets locked over there also 3 levels of security? how long does it take to get in😭

@satyachowdary5291 Жыл бұрын

it's because in the past a jbtc reporter barged into the old building and to protect the artists hybe has to maintain a tight security since bts and seventeen are the popular and sucessful groups right now

@jnd_jnd Жыл бұрын

We all find this a fun lighthearted here but when I got to twt it was a fandom vs fandom bloodbath and for what 😀

@urmyblue01626 2 жыл бұрын

언제봐도 웃긴데 이 썰 풀고 또 갇혀서 위버스에 글 올린 거 생각남 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

@cherrii6377 Жыл бұрын

Sub español🙏😢

@bitingsquirrel21 2 жыл бұрын

Lol lowkey also dissing Hybe 🤣

@asamikanemoto2485 Ай бұрын

It's like a bank😂

@nouhajai8944 10 ай бұрын

hhh it's really good but it's really bad if u got stuck like this and no one is around while u forgot ur phone 😂😂 that's hell

@Joy-de8vc 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's b/c jeonghan got a haircut ..long hair to short hair ..thus system got shocked and refused to recognise him🤣🤣🤣..well jeonghan in long hair and short hair looks polls apart😳..I will bee like let's do a dna test if it's the same person or not🤣🤣🤣

@tiara9730 Жыл бұрын

The system lacks because hybe artist too much handsome 🤣

@aihara_rkz 2 жыл бұрын

jeonghan cannot be friend with the system security face recognition😂save him of there is system security face recognition again😂✔️

@nurazizah-jx3si 2 жыл бұрын

ahahah😩

@toniesj11 Жыл бұрын

Poor Jeonghan!

@lemon-pop2923 2 жыл бұрын

And then it got deleted lololol

@rajanyatv4618 Жыл бұрын

And then hybe deleted seokhan vlive 😭👍🏼

@lenaxshin 2 жыл бұрын

Oli London won't b able to get in huh 😏😂

@nikiniki356 11 ай бұрын

And nobody doubted that it's may be not Jeonghan.... I mean like seventeen is always in chaos how they didn't make fun of this situation by questioning to Jeonghan... 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@anonymous_0281 11 ай бұрын

That's ok. He said he was not having phone with inside room where he was stuck. And then said as it couldn't open he messaged in group. How did he message if he didn't have phone😆 Just wondering It's funny when we tell funny stories we are all excited and tend tell all scattered😆

@off2564 11 ай бұрын

He was with their manager so they used his phone.

@msj618 4 ай бұрын

What he said was that if he didn’t had a phone at that time he would have no chance to get out ( he’s telling us to imagine if there was no phone) But lucky for him he had one at that time so he was able to message