Iv had 5 outboard and always just run em dry/empty that's it

Thanks Mark! I should actually watch my own video each year too! This year I fogged before I ran stabil into the lines... Had to redo it, lol.

David Jessee add stabil fuel along with a full tank? Thanks

@@dc5131 yes

I seen a chart that showed worse impeller damage at 1500 rpm for 5 seconds than 600 rpm for 30 seconds. Actually much, much worse.

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Hey.. Thank you for the tips. I'm from Brazil

Thanks for the comment. Glad it helped you out!

25 horse Mercury outboard winterization

Where upstate?

Sorry for your loss. 2 strokes are trash 🚮

You're welcome! Glad you found the video helpful. We also wrote an article about the process. Sometimes it helps to see it in writing as well. :) www.mortonsonthemove.com/fogging-boat-engine/

Thank you so much!

@@MortonsontheMove I have a 2019 Yamaha AR210 jet boat got it out storage and one of the motors is running 5rpm and the other is 7rpm, we can go 50 plus mph and now we can can 38-40mph anyone kno why

Thanks, It has been a reliable engine!

Thank you!

Thanks!

@@MortonsontheMove Greetings from Argentina........Is that spray that you put directly on the carburettors wd40 style? Thank you

Hmm weird, mine says 24 months... Great idea about the spark plug threads. dont want em seizing.

If you can find it , use graphite grease or carbon grease- an just a small swipe, on the plug threads. Those greases are conductive and so wont hurt the plugs ground . Normal grease is not conductive. I also spray the outside of the engine in water dispersant spray , wipe down and then use a hand sprayed silicon wax ( one for car paint) on the outside of the engine. That keeps the engine looking new by keeping the bolts and fixtures from corroding. Also the engine leg goes onto a support stand once the boat is parked - a couple of milk crates or a small stack of lumbar pieces - it helps relieve the transom of the motor weight and means you can move the motor up and down if the tilt tube grease congeals in storage. That makes it easier to break the tilt system free when the boat comes out of storage.

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Hi. Here in Brazil a lot of people usually store their gas tank empty.

TK BUILT same haha

same but when we do we'll know this shit lol

You wont need to replace the plugs, it will burn off. No the water is heavier than the oil and will settle to the bottom.

It depends on your engine and the drain instructions. A little water is ok as long as it is not filling a cavity.

@@MortonsontheMove It gets REAL cold here in Kentucky, so, I run anti-freeze throughout the block. I prefer knowing its safe.

An outboard drains pretty well entirely once you shut it off and tilt it down. Inboards are the engines that have to have various valve drains opened, or filled with RV antifreeze.

its all about changes in humidity. obviously freezing is bad because of expansion and contraction, but much worse is humidity. Ie. Florida is much worse for an engine than say Maine as its almost always humid salty air.

Yeah lemme pull my boat into my spare greenhouse 😂 kidding 😉

The engines are designed so that it will drain and leave only small amounts that wont cause damage, just leave it upright for a while to drain properly.

It depend on the engine, A larger 4 stroke with an intercooler you may have to do that if there is no proper drain. For outboards they are designed to drain in the vertical position. There may be some left but should not be filled in any cavities, so no pressure when freezing. Also turning it over a few times without starting it will run the pump dry and you should be good to go. I have never used antifreeze and never had a problem, just remember to check the lower unit for water.

cyrusdavirus007 you can just start it up. It will smoke white like you saw in the video until it's all burned off, then your good to go!

It takes alot more turning over to burn off the wax, need to make sure the carbs have clean fuel too. It should ignight just fine, but will run rough and smoke for a while otherwise.

Hello Everyone screw them back in tight..that way when you go back to start it there already tight..but as much fogger he sprayed in to the cylinders . The plugs are probably oil fouled anyways..going to have to clean the plugs upon starting back motor..

John Wish I’d seen your comment a few weeks ago. Fortunately able to fish the straw out of the cylinder with one of those telescoping finger tools....

What do you mean by dirty gas? It really depends on the problem but if its old and not running well then probably. Stabilizers can only do so much. Its best to only leave a little gas in the tank anyway.

You should always leave as much gas as possible in the tank along with the stabilizer, since there will be no air left in the container that can turn in to water, just pure gas if filled to the top. :)

Ahh, good call!

Been there done that. Great tip!

Ah, I once dropped the fuel stick into my airplane tank right before a flight, took half an hour and a mechanics flexi-grabber thing to get it out. (The fuel stick is a clear tube with gallon marks calibrated for your specific tank, more accurate than fuel gauges.)

Yes

It was fired up 2 years later and ran perfect, winterized again the same way! :)

There is two schools of though on that. Personally I never leave them dry. I would rather them be full of fuel then open to air and elements. I have never had a prob. Use ethanol free . as you always should anyways

Wrong!! That's why he put in ethanol free fuel and stabil

By turning the engine over without running it (like in the video when we spray in the cylinders directly) this will run the pump dry and pump out any water. There may be a little moisture but if the engine is down they are designed to drain without any large amounts that could freeze and cause pressure buildup so it shoulden't be a problem. Just make sure to do that last step and turn the engine over a few times without fuel to get it out of the pump.

What about a motor that’s still in the crate. Brand new 1996 Johnson never been started. Should I fog it before starting it?

@@goch907 absolutely! what HP is it?Fogging oil from the factory (they used a slightly thicker special type) will not keep cylinders lubed forever.

@@ct1762 it’s a 80 jet drive.

Leave em in once fogged.

Mortons on the Move thanks.

Your education in the subject is severely underdeveloped. The chemistry is just not that simple, a fine thread of truth is hidden in your statement but the whole of the statement is so grotesquely oversimplified and inaccurate that I must say you have no business giving any advice to anyone about fuel chemistry at any level. You can make 115octane and higher pure hydrocarbon fuels by using different blends of alkanes alkenes(both branched and linear), cycloalkenes and aromatics. In the USA fuel was much higher quality in 1970 than it is today and contained no alcohol, many regular street cars with the performance engine option had 11:1 or higher compression ratios and that was without the aid of special computer designed combustion chambers and antiknock sensors to retard timing. Specific blends of alcohol and gasoline(like 5 to 10% ethanol) can have some efficiency benefits for certain specific situations, while other blend ratios are rather undesirable for most uses. All alcohol-petroleum blends are very bad for storage. Over the years formula 1 has used many different fuels depending of the changes in racing rules that benefited one fuel or another, they were using pure methanol for several years. In drag racing they use pure methanol(not ethanol), pure nitro-methane, or gasoline depending on the category; some categories allow a choice of nitro-methane with no supercharging or gasoline with supercharging. For aviation gasoline adding a small percent alcohol (to prevent water crystals in freezing temperatures) will actually lower the anti-knock rating of 100/130 rated fuel by about 2 points while it will slightly raise the rating for 80/87. (These are aviation anti-knock performance test results, not exactly correlated with automobile octane rating but both measure anti-knock performance.)

Only when it's running.

SupaNami Michigan

You need to remove the spark plugs so you can spray the fluid directly into the cylinders but yes, just turn the key. The engine is just a big air pump and with the spark plugs out it will just move the cylinders back and forth with no compression and coat the cylinder walls.

Thank you for your reply, Tom I haven't done this before, just want to make sure I did it right. Do you need to unplug the fuel? When I fog the cylinder? Anything else that I should pay attention? (Mine is Yamaha 2 stroke, outboard engine) Thanks again

As long as your have stabilizer in the gas and engine it doesn't really matter whether you leave it connected or not. I disconnect mine as I don't store the gas in the boat. Nothing else really, just the lower unit like in the video. If there are any exposed metal parts (like throttle linkages) It is sometimes good to spray them with a light oil to prevent corrosion.

Ya know I thought of another thing that I should have mentioned. Its a really good idea to lubricate your steering cable if your engine is connected to a steering wheel. There should be a grease zerk where the engine connects to the cable.

Thank you for your reply, Tom I did fogging and change the gear oil yesterday, the boat is wrap up, ready for the winter, For lubricating the steering cable, I have to do it next year, Also,my wheel is off center already, I have to figure out how to fix it, and do it next year. Thanks again

You can fog any size outboard. Even if it is a big 4 stroke EFI engine you should still fog it before long term storage.

Mortons on the Move awesome thanks!

I'm about to winterize my 89 Merc 2 stroke 15hp. Besides what he showed, how do I check for metal and is there anything else i need to do? Never owned a boat before.

@@Dean403 if you change the lower unit oil i would check the drain plug and see if there is any metal fragments on it. You don't have to change the lower unit oil. But if you do check your plug. That video is a good video to use just follow that video and you'll be good 👍

The fogging oil will work better as it dries thick with the wax, but can be hard to start. A thin oil like wd40 would be better than nothing tho, should start easier too.

Yes.

WRONG

We dont fog unless it will sit for a few years.

What do you do for winter storage? Don't want to mess it up in Alberta winter.

@@MortonsontheMove I use mine from March till October, does not sit much

@@Dean403 Back yard on the trailer, double tarped

@@obageegee you don't winterize the motor?

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It's hard to fish year-round when the water is froze. With a boat.

@@eddiebunch5133 thats why you live in florida