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Engineering softer landings (drop testing)

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DarkAero, Inc

DarkAero, Inc

Күн бұрын

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In this video we'll be drop testing the nose gear of the DarkAero 1 prototype. The goal is to simulate a bad landing in a safe and controlled manner so that we can verify that the nose gear will perform as expected before we proceed into flight testing.
Before we drop the nose gear to see how it performs, we'll take a closer look at the gear design, the test rig, and discuss the importance of this test.
0:00 - Intro
0:40 - DarkAero 1's Mission
1:56 - Nose Gear Engineering
4:46 - Why Drop Test The Gear?
6:20 - Test Setup
8:07 - Testing Results
10:00 - Outro
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@billardman2
@billardman2 Жыл бұрын
As a consulting engineer of over 30 years , I am seeing new engineers start their careers and it worries me a little with their lack of professionalism and attention to detail. But then I watch your videos. As a pilot and lover of the engineering process, I can say that you guys have renewed my faith in the next generation of engineers. You are concise with your explanations without making it too difficult for the lay person to understand. Bravo!
@ramenhausten
@ramenhausten Жыл бұрын
Do you need a mechatronics engineer apprentice by any chance ?
@chester8420
@chester8420 Жыл бұрын
What?! Their "test rig" is made from busted up shipping crates bolted to a beam in the shop and filled with sandbags.
@JMC8415
@JMC8415 Жыл бұрын
@@chester8420 I don't see what's wrong with that. They are testing the landing gear, not the test rig.
@chester8420
@chester8420 Жыл бұрын
@@JMC8415 I was just implying that the test was silly. I can't imagine a situation where the nose gear of the aircraft would be rotating downward on a beam of wood with a flimsy box of sandbags sat on top. It made an interesting video, but an aircraft would never impact the runway in such a manner. Unless its fuselage were somehow bolted to the shop beam.
@jakubjochec
@jakubjochec Жыл бұрын
​@@JMC8415 ehm, at least read his full response first...
@Gearlube_chain_wax_solutions
@Gearlube_chain_wax_solutions Жыл бұрын
Very professional. With every video I see, I am even more impressed with the way you guys handle this. Keep it up !!
@Macrocompassion
@Macrocompassion Жыл бұрын
The mass on the nose-gear that is needed for a simulated landing impact, is much greater that the equivalent static weight being carried when standing or taxiing on a smooth surface. This is because the pitching motion of the aircraft adds inertial mass to the static mass. My work (and engineering paper in the American Journal of Aircraft) shows that this dynamic effect can increase the size of the so-called static mass by up to 3 times, so we need to design the nose gear to withstand much more force during a landing impact than only that from its static weight reactive load. We need to include the effect of both sinking speed and equivalent mass due to pitching. When taxiing over bumpy surfaces there also is an equivalent mass on the nose-gear due to the pitching motion of the whole aircraft. To better understand this, a simulation of the complete mechanical parts is needed. This is what my paper was all about. Past experience on the Airbus A200, some years ago, showed that the formal method for calculating this equivalent mass as specified in the airworthiness regulations was insufficient, and that fatigue strength and life was limited due to this incorrect resulting fatigue spectrum being originally used. My paper about it is still relevant because I wrote it so as to cover a range of parameters suitable for application to many tricycle layout aircraft landing gears.
@juliandahl1999
@juliandahl1999 12 сағат бұрын
Very nice information, and I alao think their tire spinning test is worthless as there is a dynamic braking force additionally to the linear forces especially induced by braking (cog moves forward)
@cabanford
@cabanford Жыл бұрын
Love the "into the last minute detail" engineering. Was always a dream of mine to design and build my own aircraft - like you guys are doing... Dream it shall remain, but lots of my dreaming is reality here with you. ❤
@williamwilliam728
@williamwilliam728 Жыл бұрын
Baby steps are getting you closer to that first flight. I am very impressed with your engineering and decision to make it better than FAA regulations. Waiting in anticipation for that first flight. 😃
@boydw1
@boydw1 Жыл бұрын
I'd anticipate that some of the worst possible nose gear loads would be in a nose down "wheelbarrow" contact. You could probably get closer to simulating that by raising the pivot point of your test rig. Probably also want to consider lateral loads that might be encountered in a bad crosswind landing.
@TheRangerBob
@TheRangerBob Жыл бұрын
Once again, impressively well thought-out. Looking forward to some flight tests.
@SteinAir
@SteinAir Жыл бұрын
VERY nice job guys - keep up the great work! It's extremely reassuring to see you doing actual testing (some people selling plans/kits have never drop tested their gear, or do minimal job of it). Nice to see both the theoretical engineering as well as the practical testing on all the various components and sub-components. Will make for a great plane when it's done. Keep up the good work, we can't wait to see it finished (but are glad to see you taking these steps in the meantime) - See ya at OSH!
@bradalgra8088
@bradalgra8088 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful work, as always. Ground handling safety is so important and directional stability upon touchdown is critical in preventing landing accidents. Continued success with the Dark Aero!
@Johnbobon
@Johnbobon Жыл бұрын
Don't all airplane accidents occur on the landing? J/k
@gregoryh4601
@gregoryh4601 Жыл бұрын
Job well done you Three . I hope the FAA looks at your build more Closely and makes changes to there Rules. The front Shock be awesome for the RC Airplanes Hobby. It would help Us land better too! Well done.
@rickfaber1958
@rickfaber1958 Жыл бұрын
Nice job thinking out the homemade, yet seemingly effective, test rig. However, I'm wondering if you're planning to conduct non-destructive component testing, such as x-ray analysis to see if any of the structural components experience or caused cracking. The military used to call this NDI testing - which was mandatory for critical aircraft components. Also, repeat analysis tests, such as graduated simulated landings might show you how the components hold up over repeated landings. Just a few thoughts.
@bartofilms
@bartofilms Жыл бұрын
More Excellent Engineering. I realize the drop rig is wood, not metal, but I could not help but notice the stress on what would be the interface between engine mount and fuselage. Have you considered drop tests for these components and the engine mount bolts? Cheers.
@Sep141
@Sep141 Жыл бұрын
Awesome progress. You guys are a credit to the state, look forward to every upload you do. Keep it up, greetings from the Fox Valley!
@sjaakdebaar9371
@sjaakdebaar9371 Жыл бұрын
You can simultaniously test the engine mounts when you attach the sandbox like you would do with the engine, and attaching the engine mounts to the “firewall” like on the plane
@billl7551
@billl7551 Жыл бұрын
I am hoping they will do a full chassis drop test, but that might come later when there is more than one airplane. Keep up the excellent work Dark Aero Team!
@JerryRigEverything
@JerryRigEverything Жыл бұрын
So close to 100k!!!
@rogerclarke3291
@rogerclarke3291 Жыл бұрын
Hi from the UK. The design of your landing gear is beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
@tafaragadze6432
@tafaragadze6432 3 ай бұрын
As a pilot, I can appreciate what these guys are putting into their aircraft. It's honestly astounding
@adamlowe005
@adamlowe005 Жыл бұрын
Very cool, very professional, great safety and efficiency focus … well done guys !!!
@tomcoryell
@tomcoryell Жыл бұрын
I am grateful to the Dark Aero team for all of the knowledge you giveaway.I’ve learned a lot.
@edstube2668
@edstube2668 Жыл бұрын
Nice work boys! Thanks for sharing another impressive video. Keegan raising the bar even higher…
@johnwausau64
@johnwausau64 Жыл бұрын
When you were going to school in Madison, it is clear that you guys spent little time on State Street…. You’ve got it together and are applying all the lessons… scientific method in spades !
@shakdidagalimal
@shakdidagalimal Жыл бұрын
"We're very proud of our accomplishment here, we have gone above and beyond and set a new standard." *smirk won't come off face* hahahaha good job
@jmcguire5151
@jmcguire5151 Жыл бұрын
What about a situation of a side load during a landing?
@mikenorman4001
@mikenorman4001 Жыл бұрын
Are you accounting for the flexion of the forward weight box? How does its motion, and its associated energy absorption, compare to the structure of the actual plane? My intuition is that the nose of the plane, and the engine, will be more rigidly attached. If so, you might not be seeing a good approximation of the actual worst case landing in your tests.
@chester8420
@chester8420 Жыл бұрын
I doubt there was any real engineering data collected here. I suspect that this "test" was slapped together mostly for entertainment and or content.
@nevillecreativitymentor
@nevillecreativitymentor Жыл бұрын
Just honored to be a part of this journey ... even though its on you tube ... WOW WOW WOW
@mycoolbeernuts6870
@mycoolbeernuts6870 11 ай бұрын
The XB-1 took 3 years to design and roll out - You bros are killing it!
@johnsmithh662
@johnsmithh662 Жыл бұрын
As a collective, what is you guy’s mindset when the thought of “what if this doesn’t work out”. You are all inspirations to us. Praying for these guy’s success. Clear blue skies, gents.
@BenTheMagnifice
@BenTheMagnifice Жыл бұрын
You guys should consider doing a scheduled livestream where you go over one component like the landing gear in depth from an engineering perspective and answer community questions.
@victorbarrios5162
@victorbarrios5162 Жыл бұрын
Love these video's. I was wondering, if the test rig is deforming and slowly breaking, is it consuming part of the energy that should go to the landing gear for repeatable testing?
@gijoe1of3
@gijoe1of3 Жыл бұрын
I have no knowledge of aircraft engineering but find myself loving your videos. It is great to see an airplane coming together from your ideas. Keep it up!
@lorendjones
@lorendjones Жыл бұрын
Very impressive design, top to bottom. Thanks for sharing your journey with us.
@andy_litak
@andy_litak Жыл бұрын
You guys are super good!!! glad to follow you, What other tests will you run? I would like to see simulations of bad landings and destruction results on the computer. For many people this would be decisive in deciding to buy your kit, given that other manufacturers do not provide such information.
@SoloRenegade
@SoloRenegade Жыл бұрын
why would you demand such high standards of DarkAero when you admit not demanding such high standards of others? They've already shared more than others do. Maybe you should be posing your demands to those other kit manufacturers instead?
@user-mi6co1ky3i
@user-mi6co1ky3i Жыл бұрын
@@SoloRenegade I'm sure it would not cost them anything to run a computer simulation, which would make them stand out even more from the other manufacturers.
@tristandawson6417
@tristandawson6417 Жыл бұрын
Love the videos! As an aerospace engineering student and pilot, its cool to see some of the behind the scene stuff to get a better understanding of what real world engineering actually looks like! Any chance you guys are planning in hiring interns at some point? 😉
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
The "voltage regulator" @7:42 is actually a variable transformer or "Variac"... a cool technical throwback.
@kf4293
@kf4293 Жыл бұрын
Very cool. If you get bored on your weekend, I need a nose gear for my Flitetest Mini Guinea. I've trashed everything I've tried. 😉 Doesn't need to retract, but it does need to steer and absorb beginner landings (read: crashes) of ~600g foam airplane. 😂 My goal is to keep it under 20g, including the 5g servo for steering.
@xeriotti
@xeriotti Жыл бұрын
Great job!!! But the biggest danger is beign overlooked... The ULpower engine need lots of work before its SAFE. Its not safe out of the box. (Poorly designed Cylinder to HEad Gasket System that leads to leaks, lean running and piston breakup, Neglected Bolt Torques all over the engine, lack of a detonation sensor or lambda probe leaves correct fuel-air mixture to basically atmospheric pressure and luck) 8/5/2023 I hope you guys listen to my advice, check those things... UL Power user myself.
@user-ny2bx8ez1c
@user-ny2bx8ez1c Жыл бұрын
You guys are an amazing team.
@flyribbit
@flyribbit Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 100k subscribers! 🎉 Keep up the great work DarkAero team.
@johnfitzpatrick2469
@johnfitzpatrick2469 Жыл бұрын
Hello Reilly, River and Keagen from Sydney Australia. Thank you for the detailed demonstration and explanation, for the design and testing of your landing gears effectiveness Learning outcome * R&D is time consuming and expensive: mandatory for certification. *.Substitution: weight of engine to avoid damage. * Using a voltage regulator ( AC/DC within the specified motor range). * CAD software 🪃🌏
@jaredsebring6129
@jaredsebring6129 Жыл бұрын
Excited to see her fly! Great job y’all!
@SeanFChannel
@SeanFChannel Жыл бұрын
Cool. One question, several follow ups. Do you have any concerns about the airframes ability to handle the max load drop testing in both the nose and main gear drop tests? I consider the airframe and the gear as being integral when it comes to landing loads for the airplane (product). By only testing the nose gear assembly, does that perhaps leave some unanswered questions as to the overall durability of the airframe. I realize I am being a little obtuse. I don’t mean to be. I understand that the required budget of testing this thing to that level is enormous. Im sure you have thought of these issues. I just wanted to spark a conversation around it in order to understand your thinking on the matter. I am a huge fan of yours (as you know) and the airplane. I really enjoy the videos. But the DarkAero’s wing loading is not low, and it is a new design, so hard landings over the life of a DarkAero builder could be at least as frequent as they are in existing similar aircraft (some metal, others fiberglass, some carbon). That said, perhaps the long term strength of the airframe (and the landing gear assemblies) is an area which needs additional clarification. Thanks. Sean
@RafMov
@RafMov Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing! Good job however test bench broke and absorb some amount of energy. I believe you did final test with reinforced and more stiff one to be on the safe side 🙂
@Endelin
@Endelin Жыл бұрын
I also use those blue Irwin clamps for everything.
@LiftPizzas
@LiftPizzas Жыл бұрын
With the fork being as narrow as it is, I was imagining a hard landing and thinking the tire bulges out to the side and contacts the fork. This is something that wouldn't show up in your testing rig unless you used a slow-motion camera to check for it. (In the rig both ground contact and fork contact are doing the same thing, where in reality both contacts would be doing opposite things.) That is, if the tire is able to bulge, which maybe it isn't, but what if it's a little underinflated and/or you're not landing perfectly straight? Just thinking out loud. :)
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
Tire contact with the fork seems like a valid concern, but it would probably leave visible marks.
@parrotraiser6541
@parrotraiser6541 Жыл бұрын
Landing gear behaviour is especially important on high performance aircraft. Incorrect damping turned a successful landing into a fatal collision with a hangar near me, (Unfortunately, I cannot remember enough details for a proper citation,)
@aldohattonduran5227
@aldohattonduran5227 10 ай бұрын
I love your airplanes.. truly extraordinary!! I'm also a fan of the Velocity/ Canard Pushers.. keep up the excellent work 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
@1972C182
@1972C182 Жыл бұрын
Hi Dark Aero. Will you explain at some point how you will test for side loads and twist loads on the gear during landing? Sometimes the wind can be howling from the wrong direction and you’ll land while both slipping and drifting. Thanks for the many great engineering lessons.
@TheJustinJ
@TheJustinJ Жыл бұрын
The limiting item is tire grip. You're not going to see more than 1g laterally. Even a corvette with wide tires can barely manage 1g lateral grip. So, as long as the gear can handle the weight of the aircraft sideways. On that hears long lever arm. It will be fine.
@A.J.1656
@A.J.1656 Жыл бұрын
I'm always impressed when people move their hands a lot when giving a presentation.
@israeloluwagbemi825
@israeloluwagbemi825 Жыл бұрын
I love this 👍... Please in performing the load test of an aluminium wing, I'll like to know the time frame used in simulating the loading conditions at 2G, 2.5G 3G, 3.5G, 4G and ultimate of 6G. Thanks.
@Runoratsu
@Runoratsu Жыл бұрын
Very cool! I love watching your videos and seeing how meticulously you think through, design and test everything. Will you also test behavior with respect to sidewards loading of the landing gear, e.g. on a crabbed landing that wasn‘t fully straightened out successfully?
@uowebfoot
@uowebfoot Жыл бұрын
You guys. This stuff is too good to have such few videos.
@suburbangorilla5515
@suburbangorilla5515 Жыл бұрын
Professionals in action!
@terke1230
@terke1230 Жыл бұрын
As always a great video with solid engineering principles. Watching the drop test with the spun up tire, your compression works nicely. However, the rebound landing appears to show no compression, but bending instead. Have you done drop test with the wheel stationary? This would simulate a secondary landing from a bad wheel barrow landing.
@asaiyannamedgokublack
@asaiyannamedgokublack Жыл бұрын
The dark aero with a Turbo Aero 200 hp turboprop would be a dangerous combo
@TheOwenMajor
@TheOwenMajor Жыл бұрын
It's not pressurized so you wouldn't see much improvement, just more fuel burn with a turboprop.
@mikhailjairnisbett441
@mikhailjairnisbett441 Жыл бұрын
it would make no difference, the engine already makes 200 and the plane isn't pressurized to fly high enough to take advantage of that.
@alexanderarnett4966
@alexanderarnett4966 Жыл бұрын
The Turbo Aero is still a ways off, but if and when it get’s released I suspect this question will get asked a lot more. As for the supposition that a dark Aero would not benefit from the TA200TP (if it delivers on its pro forma specifications), I disagree. Fuel economy would suffer but maybe not as much as one might think. As for altitude, supplemental oxygen is widely available in civilian aviation. It’s technical viability would probably has more to do with an owners preferred routes. If someone can afford a TA200TP vs a UL520iS and all of the other needed modifications, fuel cost is probably not as big an issue as range. A perhaps less costly upgrade would be the UL520iT (Turbocharged Version) it is only slightly larger in z-axis and a few inches longer. Still a new engine cowling would need to be designed, and a 1000 other things adjusted to make it work. It instills a weight penalty and an additional scoop for the intercooler but it would improve the the climb out to 20,000 ft which might make up for the added weight and drag. UL is planing later versions with big power boost. But initially this turbocharged version only maintains power to a higher altitude than the non charged engine.
@oldschoolmotorsickle
@oldschoolmotorsickle Жыл бұрын
Superb engineering; the nose gear will soak up even a very bad landing. Great video!
@user-gv7zi8kp5k
@user-gv7zi8kp5k Жыл бұрын
please upload the video of you guys modelling the landing gear on the onshape.
@iamthesentinel584
@iamthesentinel584 Жыл бұрын
This videos are incredible. Keep up the amazing work!
@jimsleestak8012
@jimsleestak8012 Жыл бұрын
My dad worked for the Huge Aircrash Company. They had a vibrating platform for shaking the crap out of their components. He never let me have a go.
@ValFox28
@ValFox28 Жыл бұрын
Plane is definitely high up on the wish list. Best plane out there - so far! Let’s see how she performs during flight tests. Loving the methodical engineering approach though. Instills lots of trust.
@mikelaughlin4470
@mikelaughlin4470 Жыл бұрын
Great work guys, as always!
@Arne279
@Arne279 Жыл бұрын
Another great video guys, beautiful plane!!!!!!!!!
@shahramkhesareh8068
@shahramkhesareh8068 6 ай бұрын
Very good and intresting,i would wish for your team the best to be happend❤
@rjwohlman
@rjwohlman Жыл бұрын
Slick designs!
@wread1982
@wread1982 Жыл бұрын
Great idea bro
@bruceyoung1343
@bruceyoung1343 Жыл бұрын
Great job. CONGRATULATIONS
@janoshorvath9430
@janoshorvath9430 Жыл бұрын
On one hand I wish to see the plane flying already, on the other hand that would mean no more such videos... Good job again! :)
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk
@PaulAnthonyDuttonUk Жыл бұрын
What about the drop test for a pilot falling off the wing?
@kinzokushirogane1594
@kinzokushirogane1594 Жыл бұрын
How do you take into consideration the additional forces from landing at a slight angle? That is, a lateral force on the wheel alongside the main vertical force?
@darrelrobbins
@darrelrobbins Жыл бұрын
Mount the drop rig on a vehicle at an angle and test while moving.
@TijsMaas
@TijsMaas Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! The last test shows rubber wheel deformation: it's squeezed against its tight metal holder. Could this cause the plane to tip over on a hard landing? (Engineer, no experience with landing gears)
@earlgreystoke3324
@earlgreystoke3324 Жыл бұрын
Impressive engineering! Well done!
@mikhailjairnisbett441
@mikhailjairnisbett441 Жыл бұрын
When I see these videos they get me excited to build a plane!
@RenTheOriginal
@RenTheOriginal Жыл бұрын
Just incredible
@fudogwhisperer3590
@fudogwhisperer3590 Жыл бұрын
What a time saver and easier than replacing all those seals and needing nitrogen to pump them up. Great design! I also noticed no shimmy dampener, how were you able to eliminate that from the design? It appears to be a swivel castering set up and not steerable.
@deffender80
@deffender80 Жыл бұрын
There was a lot of deflection in the wooden box holding the simulated load. Wont that have a cushioning effect on the impact load? I would think a re-run with a more rigid material holding the simulated weight load is needed.
@omnagar8225
@omnagar8225 Жыл бұрын
i am keen to know how you guys do the validation of the composite parts computational test and real world .also how you guys find out the life cycle of the aircraft computationally?? Also i am a bit concerned about the stress concentrations on the corners if you are placing your landing gears at the corners because these areas are usally the location of the longerons?? however as an learning aircraft designer myself i am very glad to lyou guys for making such videos its great informative and fun!!
@TheJustinJ
@TheJustinJ Жыл бұрын
Look at any composite fatigue data and you will find a break in the curve that shows if you keep strain below a certain threshold it will have nearly infinite fatigue life, beyond 10^8 or 9th. This is somewhere in the mid hundreds of microstrain for many epoxy-based composites.
@xp46290
@xp46290 Жыл бұрын
Have you considered the event of a flat nose strut and flat nose tire, will the prop hit the ground in this scenario?
@arthurjones9580
@arthurjones9580 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful engineering!
@electricaviationchannelvid7863
@electricaviationchannelvid7863 Жыл бұрын
The Velocity aircraft could use a fuselage-retract gear system similar to this in stead of the wing bay setup...
@nord4338
@nord4338 Жыл бұрын
Great looking airplane, are you ever going to fly it?
@maegenyoungs2591
@maegenyoungs2591 Жыл бұрын
These guys leave no room for problems, everything has a backup to the backup
@binyaminroscher4516
@binyaminroscher4516 Жыл бұрын
Do you need to consider emergency landings (off a tarmac) where the raw ground could have obstacles that can cause the plane to want to flip forward? Meaning, do you need to design the landing gear to handle a head-on shock load to the wheels/landing gear during an emergency off-tarmac landing?
@palletcolorato
@palletcolorato Жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@kevinhornbuckle
@kevinhornbuckle Жыл бұрын
I enjoy the engineering mindset. Even is a person is designing a simple garden gate, it is possible to learn here principles and methods to apply to the built world.
@davidf2281
@davidf2281 Жыл бұрын
I tried using their principles to build my garden gate and it didn’t go too well. I mean it flies great but my dog escaped.
@TheeAthis
@TheeAthis Жыл бұрын
Pro all the way!
@firedog1116
@firedog1116 Жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@FINNIUSORION
@FINNIUSORION Жыл бұрын
wish i would have had gear like that during my first solo lol.
@TheArtificiallyIntelligent
@TheArtificiallyIntelligent Жыл бұрын
Re: Onshape, I've never understood the love for web-only tools. Note: you can still have software you download and install that is regularly updated, and where files are stored in the cloud. But HAVING to access it through a browser versus a native desktop app is just such a meh experience.
@bigiron4018
@bigiron4018 Жыл бұрын
wouldn't you want no virtually no rebound dampening? such that if you bounce off the runway, it can extend back to full length as quickly as possible.
@GrizzlyBCool
@GrizzlyBCool Жыл бұрын
When can we see this masterpiece for sale?
@peter572
@peter572 Ай бұрын
Are there tire pressure indicators inside the cockpit as is the case in most modern cars? A partially deflated tire may cause lots of issues during landings. Can the tire pressure difference between a warm take-off airport and a cold landing site matter?
@johnlennon335
@johnlennon335 Жыл бұрын
It is a great engineering project. But I think that you should go a little further into destructive testing until you know what and how it will fail. In piloting aircraft we all know that a hard landing is a possibility.
@harrie205
@harrie205 Жыл бұрын
love youre content/ Project how much flex on the mock up engine is acceptable(seems to flex a lot)
@bioluminescentrobot3840
@bioluminescentrobot3840 Жыл бұрын
Ive noticed all the newer planes are using winglets on the ends of their wings for better efficiency. Would they not have worked on this type of aircraft? Or would they slow the aircraft?
@alexanderarnett4966
@alexanderarnett4966 Жыл бұрын
This was addressed in a previous video. I believe their research indicated unacceptable increase in drag with only a marginal decrease in stall speed. Winglets tend to add value in longer wings.
@cougarlove8542
@cougarlove8542 Жыл бұрын
Being setup for a grass strip is a must for me. I think once you fly this aircraft you will have a 2,000 foot takeoff (over 50’) at gross. We will see but it is exciting to watch the progress.
@electricaviationchannelvid7863
@electricaviationchannelvid7863 Жыл бұрын
It depends on lift/drag/thrust/weight ratios...It should be a lot shorter than that..
@josephc.9520
@josephc.9520 Жыл бұрын
I would be highly concerned if a 200 hp engine takes that long to get this light plane off the ground
@cougarlove8542
@cougarlove8542 Жыл бұрын
@@josephc.9520 i agree. The VL3 at gross is less than 1200.
@fixento
@fixento Жыл бұрын
Why not use a shock that you can adjust preload and rebound, like the do on motorcycles?
@Joey_Avocado
@Joey_Avocado Жыл бұрын
From a maintenance standpoint, bespoke components are gonna be a nightmare to replace and repair. Def wont be letting any of these near our shop. GLHF
@fettlerjohn3419
@fettlerjohn3419 Жыл бұрын
Excellent 👍🏼 ✨
@mikehipperson
@mikehipperson Жыл бұрын
Just a couple of points re the undercarriage. How much does the CG alter on retract and do you have a trim system to compensate for such movement? Also will the aircraft be fitted with a fuel reserve tank for emergencies? I know that the plane has a huge fuel capacity but some form of safety capacity should be included.
@TheOwenMajor
@TheOwenMajor Жыл бұрын
"Also will the aircraft be fitted with a fuel reserve tank for emergencies?" Huh? Why? As a pilot you are obligated to reserve a portion of fuel regardless. Somebody who is willing to fly below that reserve isn't going to be saved by an aux tank.
@mikehipperson
@mikehipperson Жыл бұрын
@@TheOwenMajor John Denver had a reserve tank but when strapped into his E-Z he couldn't reach the change over tap. Perhaps he'd still be with us but for those few gallons of fuel?
@TheOwenMajor
@TheOwenMajor Жыл бұрын
@@mikehipperson "John Denver had a reserve tank but when strapped into his E-Z he couldn't reach the change over tap." Simply incorrect. The E-Z had two fuel tanks, one in each wing root. It wasn't a "tap" for a "reserve tank" he was reaching for, it was a fuel selector for the two tanks. Also, there is zero indication he ran out of fuel, the most likely conclusion has Denver induced a loss of control when he was contorting his body to reach a badly placed control, he basically stomped on the rudder when he reached around. Additionally, Denver was flying on a revoked license, and witnesses say he didn't even check how much fuel he had before leaving. Also, the fuel gauges weren't visible from his seat..... My point being idiots will always find a way to off themselves.
@brianb-p6586
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
Reserve tanks are for vehicles without functional fuel gauges - that's not the DarkAero.
@lexer_
@lexer_ Жыл бұрын
Did you consider testing to failture to reduce the risk of catastrophic failures even with minor material weaknesses on production units or just to see how much further your design can go in practice? To see how much wiggleroom there is.
@lau4893
@lau4893 Жыл бұрын
FEA (computer simulations) for isotropic materials like aluminium is more than accurate enough (if the simulation is well setup) to predict the failure point.
@lexer_
@lexer_ Жыл бұрын
@@lau4893 On one hand, you are right, these simulations nowadays are generally incredibly close to what you would expect to happen in reality. But on the other hand, I don't believe that we require practical testing just because the validation is based on antiquated processes. Reality at the end of the day is many orders of magnitudes more complex than we can simulate on any system today. So the only way to know for sure is to try it.
@lau4893
@lau4893 Жыл бұрын
@@lexer_ you're right, I just don't think it would be financially viable to test every component to failure even if I wish it were
@spqba747
@spqba747 Жыл бұрын
since the plane got ready to be prep for painting the project literally stopped. how much more sanding? another year?
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