Engines of Amtrak - Bombardier Alstom HHP-8

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Engines of Amtrak - Bombardier Alstom HHP-8

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Amtrak's HHP-8 was the result of a joint engineering project between Bombardier and Alstom as EMD's ol' reliable, AEM-7, was going into the shops for conversion into AC power. However, the HHP-8 wasn't all that it seemed to be once out on the rails... On this edition of Engines of Amtrak I discuss this shortlived but powerful dual cab electric locomotive.
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@AmtrakGuy365 Жыл бұрын

Please go watch the remake of this episode! ( kzfaq.info/get/bejne/epmng8Vly5uxYok.html ) The editing is A LOT better, and the information is more accurate too! This version will remain up but I still highly recommend you watch the remake as the definitive version.

@surplusplanet5481 4 жыл бұрын

when I was younger, I used to think these were acela's that were modified to be a single locomotive. I was way off 😂

@gregoryboyek622 4 жыл бұрын

SurplusPlanet54 that was what the designers were going for apparently, a unified branding of design.

@surplusplanet5481 4 жыл бұрын

@@gregoryboyek622 hmm thanks!

@blakemcnamara9105 4 жыл бұрын

Me too. I called them the "double-sided Acela engines".

@Wes8761 4 жыл бұрын

When i was getting into trains a year and a half ago i first saw them in a thanksgiving rush video. I thought they were disconnected locomotives from the acela lol

@karlethewitt 3 жыл бұрын

SurplusPlanet54 same lol

@Shortline819 6 жыл бұрын

I've allways liked these engines. My first time riding Amtrak was on a local behind an HHP-8. I am so glad that MARC is retaining my favorite Electric Passenger Engine.

@thetechnocrat4979 3 жыл бұрын

Despite the heavy technical flaws, HHP-8 was a beautiful locomotive.

@floppaeditz123 Жыл бұрын

Yeah but they're coming back into NPCU service. One is already converted.

@MrBnsftrain 6 жыл бұрын

2:18 I just noticed that teat train is made up of only cafe cars! 5:22 I like that picture of all three electric locomotives next to each other! I think an HHP8 shoudl be preserved at Strasburg!

@tibbers3755 6 жыл бұрын

Thats a train id love to buy tickets for

@guildrich 6 жыл бұрын

MrBnsftrain _"__2:18__ I just noticed that teat train is made up of only cafe cars!"_ Well, at least the crew won't starve. lol

@oof5536 5 жыл бұрын

Wow Xpppppppp

@Wes8761 4 жыл бұрын

MrBnsftrain That train was a special move being led by F40PH 315 and an HHP-8 in trail mode. Kinda cool catch

@typeblaze6557 4 жыл бұрын

MrBnsftrain agree

@dreamhackboost5404 6 жыл бұрын

this series will always be in the video section of amtrakguy365

@ericviet06 4 жыл бұрын

okay????

@HomerPenguin5516 4 жыл бұрын

Not anymore but being re-created

@bummeroni 2 жыл бұрын

The HHP-8s have such a timeless design, even today these still look pretty modern.

@Buynot 6 жыл бұрын

Wow, it feels like this series started last week and now its coming to an end pretty soon. Time flies I guess.

@Michael-eg3rs 6 жыл бұрын

well it wont ever end as long as Amtrak keeps making new and better tech engines this series will go on, episodes will just take longer

@oneeyedhacker715 3 жыл бұрын

@@Michael-eg3rs also it won't end if youtube keeps taking down the videos, also he hasn't done the 2GS12BR by nre so he has some more to go. edit: autocorrectiskindagayngl

@tristschannel5611 6 жыл бұрын

It's 12:23AM and I get a notification from KZfaq.

@jjmanny7250 6 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@NorfolkSouthernProductions 6 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@therookie9276 6 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@doubleutubefan5 6 жыл бұрын

Ikr

@oof5536 5 жыл бұрын

Wow

@NorthAtlanticRails 2 жыл бұрын

MARC is still using their HHP-8s even today in 2021 and I suggest that people see them before they are retired.

@roadwayrailway5918 6 жыл бұрын

This is why I stay up after midnight. Great video I loved this series and it has taught me so much about Amtrak. I feel like that this series started yesterday. And it's almost over. Keep up the great work!

@radryeguy 4 жыл бұрын

At 2:04 you can see a F40PH engine.

@MetxsightseerRailfan 3 жыл бұрын

At 4:50 Note: Originally, Amtrakguy365 said the HHP8 were renumbered to avoid duplication of the ACS-64 and also said that the HHP8s were retired on November 8th, 2014.

@rickyrodriguez9172 3 жыл бұрын

A lot of cutting has been made on this video it just doesn't feel right anymore. Hoping he makes a remastered episode of the hhp8

@AVeryRandomPerson 3 жыл бұрын

Blame YTs stupid copyright system

@YukariAkiyamaTanks Жыл бұрын

I've actually been seeing more the MARC ones recently, after many years of them being pulled from service. Unfortunately these units still have a lot of issue but they keep MARC at the fastest commuter operator in North America

@MatthewTheRailfanner 6 жыл бұрын

FINALLY, IT'S HERE, in the middle of the night lmao.

@alexsbikesandmotors 4 жыл бұрын

I lived in CT on the northeast corridor in the 2000s and I'd see AEM7's all the time but HHP8's were rare. Maybe a once a month sighting.

@LePenguin 5 жыл бұрын

5:12 By that do you mean as in "Siemens making a class 1 passenger model takeover?"

@dennisthebrony2022 Жыл бұрын

Amtrak is currently converting the HHP8s into NPCU Cab/Baggage Cars.

@JoeyLovesTrains 6 жыл бұрын

I absolutely adore the HHP-8’s

@muhammadfadhiil3430 5 жыл бұрын

5:18 the generations of the electric's AEM-7 1978-1988 HHP-8 1999-2014 ACS-64 2012-??? Other owners : HHP-8 MARC And AEM-7 SEPTA ACS 64 And AEM-7 Re builds's AEM-7 : 1999-2002

@Project_Prescott 6 жыл бұрын

5:41 well in 2017 we stopped on our way home from the Rhode Island air show and on the track across the road I think I saw a hhp 8 (or an Acela just sitting around)

@TrainsWow 6 жыл бұрын

Ugh. It feels like yesterday when these were retired :(

@geomodelrailroader 6 жыл бұрын

I remember these from my MTS days it was a lemon then and it is a lemon now TS now has the Charger and the ACS-64 as their head end power.

@nolantherailfan5048 4 жыл бұрын

Lucky Marc still uses a few of them

@slendermanRblx 3 жыл бұрын

Actually some of Amtrak’s HHP-8s were leased from a company known as Phillip Morris Capital Corp. They haved sued Amtrak over the storage of the HHP-8s they claim AMTK have “canibalized” the locos for parts.

@fluxthelycanroc9603 6 жыл бұрын

Literally 1 in the morning but Ye I'll watch this before sleeping

@Zeffers716 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feature!

@1cmman 6 жыл бұрын

Part of the front and the windscreen look just like the Acela and the HHP-8 was indeed a very beautiful locomotive.

@kNo1bdy 5 жыл бұрын

First time I took Amtrak, northeast regional, from New York to Baltimore, it was pulled by an HHP-8.

@YaoboyProd2K15 3 жыл бұрын

The HHP-8s faced a similar problem to the failed SDP40Fs, but had a varied 15 year career running the Northeast Corridor.

@helpmeoctopus 2 жыл бұрын

I remember my childhood train i remember seeing a hhp-8 pulling 3 cafe cars when i was 3

@spenceradams2908 6 жыл бұрын

First time I took Amtrak was from New York penn station to Orlando Florida and the part between New York and Washington was pulled by an hhp-8. I never understood why the didn’t just have Alstom lower the horsepower to limit the wheel slip and replace the trucks to prevent problems that they had and shared with the Acela.

@f59phrailfan82 6 жыл бұрын

Cant wait for the Acela Express!!!

@nyshortline 5 жыл бұрын

Couple of items: No. 653 on the F-end had a split-manifold AMERICAN-tuned K-5LA, not a hybrid K-5 like the rest. Also, at first these locomotives were called "Bananas" due to their shape when viewed from broadside. Some clever engineer even went so far as to name them each individually such as "Anna Banana, Diana Banana," etc. But later they were referred to as Hippo's due to "HHP" plus their cab ends reminded one of a hippopotamus.

@rebooted.jupiter_ 4 жыл бұрын

I hope New Jersey Transit purchases an HHP-8 soon.

@SRRC245 6 жыл бұрын

YAYYYY ITS HERE!!!

@tobyradabaugh5033 2 жыл бұрын

First clip was taken at Illinois railway museum I recognized frisco 1630

@CodyWolfeVevo 5 жыл бұрын

Took Amtrak this past year in the northeast and I swear I saw them running these engines. They were in the same paint and everything minus the Acela logo. Also remember going through NJ and seeing some crazy weird locomotives there those were NJ transit. I distinctly remember along that route seeing a few trains with these locos. Saw the new Acela too great rail action out the window of amtraks silver service

@tibbers3755 6 жыл бұрын

I walked past a MARC HHP-8 on my way to my train today

@mikegaskin5542 3 жыл бұрын

I quite liked the HHP-8. Shame it wasn't very successful

@TRRailfan 4 жыл бұрын

Acela: A C E L A E X P R E S S HHP8: ASS

@17nhvrailroader 4 жыл бұрын

I rode behind one of these from Washington, D.C. - Newark, N.J. in 2012.

@livingroomset2084 6 жыл бұрын

I really don't want the series to end... But when Amtrak decides to add locomotives to their fleet you should do episodes on them

@zackboone15 6 жыл бұрын

90's computer technology is to blame for many locomotives that turned out to be lemons. The HHP-8, the GP40MC, and a few others had very rocky starts.

@DTMWTMP 6 жыл бұрын

I also heard the HHP-8's had overheating issues. I lived right next to the Northeast corridor/ Penn Line and in the summer it was noticeable that they pulled shorter trains. Could just be summer time has fewer passengers, but word was those hot days were too much for them. The diesels trains didn't seem shorter.

@JSquaredJJYT 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe when the Engines of Amtrak finally concludes, you could make another Engines of series. Maybe like engines of NJ Transit or Metro North or LIRR, Septa, or etc.

@thebigguyangel 6 жыл бұрын

NJ Transit? Yes. Metro North and LiRR are part of the MTA of New York City so I think Engines of MTA (NYC) is a more suitable title. Someone else is doing Engines of SEPTA and VIA Rail and GO Transit are occupied.

@JSquaredJJYT 6 жыл бұрын

AngelGamer74 yeah, Engines of MTA is a more suitable title. And thanks for the info about the other railways

@ConrailFreight 6 жыл бұрын

Engines of Union Pacific

@jorgeburgos3405 3 жыл бұрын

My episode of engines of MARC the hhp8 was my episode

@sleepythespian1455 3 жыл бұрын

Parts of the older videos have been cut.

@anonymousperson9610 2 жыл бұрын

They’re making a come back now

@therookie9276 6 жыл бұрын

*-trying to figure if I watched this already-*

@zacharyhale1681 4 жыл бұрын

I love how the song he uses in the start of the video (0:14 specifically) because its from the game "Sonic Unleashed"

@Primon4723Studios 6 жыл бұрын

I loved the HHP-8s and the Acela Express when I used to play Microsoft Train Simulator.

@geomodelrailroader 6 жыл бұрын

I use to but since both games came out the HHP-8 is a lemon 2 years after they came out they were in the shop for overheating problems.

@geomodelrailroader 6 жыл бұрын

problem with the HHP-8 was it was a lemon within 2 years of service all 15 units were in the shop undergoing traction motor and pantagraph replacement and they overheated. Amtrak retired all of them and handed them over to MARC for rebuild. It was replaced by the Siemens Charger and the ACS-64 City Sprinter also made by Siemens and Bombardier.

@test_fujiwara3457 3 жыл бұрын

MARC replaced there HHP8 units with SC44 chargers in 2018

@patrickwebb7311 6 жыл бұрын

Good video. Hopefully, an HHP8 is selected for preservation. You'd think our National Railway Museum would be on that, but, I don't know how they operate, so I'll leave it at that.

@simonlim1575 4 жыл бұрын

Remember the Frankfort Junction Wreck?

@dislikemyvids9222 4 жыл бұрын

Frankford*

@buildsbricks1 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it came after the ACS 64 until I first watched this video a long time ago and I thought they combined the Acela with the ACS 64 and made this

@JackCarsonsRailroadVideos 2 жыл бұрын

Just heads up They might infact being returning to a form of service as Cab Cars, so don't count em out yet, but one was spotted returning to service recently so we'll see what Amtrak is doing with them now

@ATSF669 2 жыл бұрын

This video was from 2018 dude

@jackpez 2 жыл бұрын

wdym?

@MetxsightseerRailfan 3 жыл бұрын

At 2:35 I think one clip was caught off.

@GARails 4 жыл бұрын

This gave everyone an idea of what the Acela will look like😁😆

@lhsboyproductions3446 6 жыл бұрын

Thumbs 👍. Interesting video. I miss those AEM-7,s and HHP8,s. Greetings from Poland :)

@davidmolin8944 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone else notice how the video has been cut off at some areas ( I thankfully have it downloaded onto my 3DS so I can watch the full vid anytime)

@Ibrahimthegoat8848 3 жыл бұрын

4:32 when he talks about the side to side swaying of the locomotive it can be seen here

@hamburgrailfan7620 6 жыл бұрын

Awesome Video! And I have an o scale hhp-8 656

@ashleyjiscool 3 жыл бұрын

3:02 and I thought this was only a British problem

@terrellhoward5231 6 жыл бұрын

Wow another fantastic video.

@thecentralfloridarailroader 6 жыл бұрын

Cool! I have this engine in ho scale! It’s number 663

@DoubleSpikeProductions 6 жыл бұрын

Matt Bown from Extreme Trains did a "movie I guess" off of the acela. That may be some great source material.

@lehl_railfan5325 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Amtrakguy365 I attned the NRHS railcamp east and we took a tour of the Wilmington shops and we saw HHP-8 there. A camper asked what goingon with the HHP-8 and the amtrak employee said " we still maintain them and if i recall correctly they are on a lease and the lease is not over on them " Don't quote on me Its been a while since I heard the answer.

@TestTubeBabySpy 3 жыл бұрын

"heres a few samples" ...fwoop fwoop..😄

@Charger_84 2 жыл бұрын

MARCs refurbishment program is something else

@Kmaster2007 6 жыл бұрын

5:40 I’ve seen the MARC HHP-8’s before but, they look like Amtrak’s E units from the 70’s. They are very dirty.

@therookie9276 6 жыл бұрын

Amtrak bought the E units from companies that suffered bankruptcy or shutdown. They were dirty because they sat in storage mostly.

@AngelBrockTubbySupporter8888 3 жыл бұрын

Amtrakguy365, can you please talk about the F and E units of Amtrak

@PGHammer21A 3 жыл бұрын

MARC HHP-8 4310 was the odd duck, even among MARC's HHP-8s - it flew MDOT - not MARC - livery. (This HHP-8 was commonplace at Ivy City in 2000 - does anyone nave video of this HHP-8 in operation? Did the B&O Museum get it?)

@110_Octane Жыл бұрын

Suprised NJT doesnt have a few HHP-8s, considering like all of their electric trains and cars are all made by Bombardier. Then again, the ALP 44 seems to be much more reliable i guess

@KJW-Transit Жыл бұрын

I thought you was really about to keep with hhl for a second that was really about to say

@Vixen1525 3 жыл бұрын

I hope we can drive this train in TSW 2 in the future.(I know this comment has almost nothing to do with the video)

@sarahbethsmile 4 жыл бұрын

I hope some of the HHP-8’s are still at Marc

@international_A 3 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@rebooted.jupiter_ 4 жыл бұрын

R.I.P HHP-8s 🙁☹️😣

@mr.oliver_11 4 жыл бұрын

3:15 how it’s American problem to

@TexasRailfan21-RailfanRyan 6 жыл бұрын

I know you're going to talk about the Acela Express train set because in the next three years they will be retired in favor of the phase 2 Acela Express train sets from French manufacturers because all of the Acela Express train sets are nearing 20 years old just like the Genesis engines

@KaaimanProductions 4 жыл бұрын

Its sad how many of these cool trains like the turbo liner and this one. These nice looking trains never do good or never enter service

@Wes8761 4 жыл бұрын

I hope they sell em off up north like they did the AEM-7s so i can catch them moving up, i caught the aem-7 move in December

@tanphoebe2723 4 жыл бұрын

You should do the Avelia liberty

@rjames45_3 6 жыл бұрын

nice video as always!

@tractorsmachinesro1405 4 жыл бұрын

Great video....Epic images...Big like & subscribe from Romania...Thumbs UP!!!!

@3bydacreekside 6 жыл бұрын

I love you all

@iannarita9816 2 жыл бұрын

The first time I saw an HHP8 was in Penn Station, NYC. Curious thing, someone had put an image of Daddy Duck on the nose of the engine. Anyone know why?

@f59phrailfan82 6 жыл бұрын

Yes the HHP-8!