Ψ You got a study on that or...

Not that you remember at least.

Thank you; I was asking myself "why isn't anyone scared, here?" The enormous potential for abuse is terrifying, especially when I know there are governments in the world that would not hesitate, and I doubt that the US government will pretend to resist much. "It's early days" so I probably won't have my memories edited by government agencies, but if something doesn't change soon, most of you will.

lol the crazy person deleted their reply so this thread looks a little wonky

@@zemorph42 It's pretty easy to plant fake memories or delete memories with current methods already...

Dave and Gena I loved that!!!

Dave and Gena someone please make it a meme

Someone please make it a gif

I need to see more of Hank doing anything, he's so cute!

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I'll remember that for when I'm older. But by then, I might have forgotten about it.

My understanding of PTSD (from year 12 and undergraduate psych) is that memories that are traumatic can be consciously suppressed or subconsciously repressed. So potentially, your brain kind of DID put those bad memories in a box, it just also put a padlock on it and threw away the key

Kinda like Finn's "Vault" in Adventure Time.

Well I literally can't do that. Maybe because I suffered pretty serious brain damage at a young age or because I find it helpful to remember prior physical damage. Though it doesn't explain how I could possibly stay awake and alert while being bludgeoned by the Earth courtesy of gravity, struck by lightning, nearly drowned (once) or nearly crushed (more than once). Seems like I should have PTSD, but apparently my brain said PTSD is literally BS you should be more concerned with all that physical damage to your body and pay attention to the crunchy joints. Did I mention I was also impaled? Yeah I couldn't forget any of that.

Having PTSD depression, anxietyand a family that didn't believe in mental illness. I never took care of it for 24 years aswell actually. I finally got help in the last 6 months and am figuring things out constantly trying new meds. I can't remember anything and people would get mad. I started keeping a planner with me everywhere. My mind had suppressed so many memories. Yesterday was the anniversary of one of the tramatic ones that was suppressed I haven't thought of it in years. But I'm assuming since I've been on meds my brain is more clear and I remembered it like it was happening. I had a full blown panic attack my bf of 9 years tried to calm me but then I blacked out and when I came to he said I was attacking him kicking screaming clawing. He's much larger than me so he was able to pin me and keep me from hurting him or myself and just hugged me until I was ok. I don't deserve him. Thank God we live in a house last time this happened we were in an apartment. The cops got called. Wow this was a long comment to say I know how you feel. Sorry

@@126shyhinata I'm so glad you're getting help, working on that myself.

Can't be traumatized if it can't remember the trauma. Yay for science!

Not PTSD, just association

I think it was more the kids he tortured that they were worried about.

If mice can somehow rebel against humanity, I'd totally understand why they would do it

@@dandanthedandan7558 I, for one, welcome our mice overlords

Yeah same! I've taken a Masters degree in Biomedical Science, with an appreciable neuroscience component, and I've never heard the term engram or a good explanation of where memories are stored! The usual answer your hear is "in the hippocampus," not in multiple neurons throughout the brain. This is such a good video. He explains the studies really well and their findings are amazing!

nice

it is scary but this can also find a cure to ptsd too

Lol I was looking through the comments section

I love star trek!

@@Camelotsmoon oh yeah now I'm doing psych at university I am learning just how chaotic mental health treatment and research actually is 😅

Do you think this can be used for evil?

Isn't it enough to just feel, how far away it might be from this point in the room or another? I'm not sure, how clear i'm seeing images, but i remember these direction and distance things very strongly

@@JohnSmith-ep6bj Aphantasia

I know someone who has aphantasia.

@@DragoNate I might too. Myself. This is something I've recently heard about and I'm trying to figure out exactly how lucid these "mind pictures" are for other people. And I can't seem to get a useful answer out of the people around me. I can Remember photographs if I put the effort in and set my mind to it. But that's about it - and it's a .. not even an image. It's an *awareness* of what the photo should look like. Does the average person actually see IMAGES? Like, does that "mind palace" trick (do a search) actually make even the smallest bit of sense to everyone but me?

@@matthewharris-levesque5809 I will say that I can actually see pictures. Sometimes I can see them so vividly that I can pick out details or almost overlay it on the real world, like day dreaming. I'm not sure what the mind palace trick is, but I'l look it up.

@@matthewharris-levesque5809 I don't know if it can be considered an image? as it's not that i can see it through my eyes, just that its inside my head, which i guess is a weird concept and difficult to explain. Best I can give you is it's like a hazy photgraph. though I can see the full picture, some of the details of it are too blurry to see. like i can't see the faces, but ill understand who its supposed to be still. Like with my mum, I can see her hair down to some stray fly away hairs from when it was windy the last time i saw her, but I cant see her face, can't even remeber it to describe it too you. but i know its her, and ill recognise her when i see her again. Or with my cat, the only part of the image i can actually see is the 4 stripes on his forehead. Dreams work the same way, not all but some, like and a string of pictures almost like a video from a dream i had when i was really young (2-3 years old), or the set of 3 from a nightmare i had later on (9-10) and im 26 now. The simpler the memory or more impactful the clearer the cleaner the image is. unfortunatly i was in an accident a few years back with a brain injury, and since then alot more newer images are too blurry to make out clearly and i just have to fall back onto the parts i actually remember if i can. I now also have the problem of some memories and pictures i cant tell if they belong together, or say its from a dream, i might not know if it was a dream or was something real, or the other way around.

Probably hard to get humans to volunteer for scientists to tinker with their brains. It's a tough call to make, but science/healthcare would be decades or more behind if we didn't have any way to perform experiments. :/

so what better than a steak

right, what right do we have to inflict pain on a defenseless animal? In the past when we hunted and ate animals it was fair game but now the animals have no choice and we don't have to do anything.

@@Victor-tl4dk the truth is we always had a choice - or always no choice - depending on whether you believe in free will in the first place. But no one can argue we absolutely needed meat, ever, to survive. Let's also not forget, that we too, are animals

Yeah I agree. They described the studies and findings very well in this episode, a great watch!

May be a code but not identical in each of us as the memory gets imprinted in the brain. Many aspects may affect their coding formation involving neurons recruited dendrites axons and networks all based on prior experiences that will function as filters or biases assessing our reality.

Based on our contemporary understanding of how things are encoded that's not exactly the problem that we have to deal with. One way to think of how memories are stored is to think of them like playing chords on a piano. It's a combination of keys played together that means something, individual notes go into it but each note is part of numerous chords. One way in which we learn (including learning to respond as though someone is shooting at us when we hear a car backfire) is via transfer learning. Essentially, we notice "Hey, this has 6/8 notes in common with the chord that means dangerous gunfire. This is probably dangerous too." Moreover, if those 2 notes that don't overlap show up with the 6 that do often enough, you'll start to think those indicate danger as well. The analogy kinda breaks down here. But the next step is that your brain updates where the keys are so that it can handle the widest variation possible with the smallest number of keys. So, it'll say "D and G are almost always played together. Whenever we see either of them, let's just call it F so we can use D and G for other things." Unfortunately, unless this neural network explanation is wrong, it means that we'd never be able to laser away PTSD by tweaking the memory of the underlying event(s). Those neurons have too many other associations that are interpreted differently because it was there. So you can still have the trauma from an event even if that event is gone.

A book all about engrans called "Dianetics". Great book.

We're toast

1 million deaths are not enough for master rahool!

While I'm neutral about the "animal torture" aspect of the experiment, if it advances humanity I'm all for it, I do agree there should be a earlier human research element as well. Perhaps an opt in for terminally ill patients, a way for criminals to reduce their sentence, or even just for a paycheck. The problem is making sure it's not as invasive or painful for humans as it is for the animals, and even more so ensuring the process is as transparent as possible. I'm not so keen on "doctors" performing lobotomies their patients because they think it "cures" hysteria

@@AlabasterJazz @@AlabasterJazz that will never happen, research funding is a zero sum game and these two kinds of research are usually considered in direct competition for that money. Not only is animal research based on a neo platonic hierarchy of bigotry, but its ineffective and often redundant. Animal research is more ideological than of necessity or at least it's mere cultural inertia. Like the English measurement system in the US; functional, integrated, yet still arbitrary and therefore unnecessary.

Andrew Wojtas can you explain?

i promise they were barely uncomfy and were rewarded greatly for their efforts