Yeh, hope the hairdresser isn’t watching!

@@huwprice881 THat makes Hambini almost 50!!!

@@theillegalimmigrant9314 will he ever tell us his real age? :D

@@theillegalimmigrant9314 50 divided by 10 is 5 so yes, he’s still 5 years old

Funny in the states that would be considered a class3 e bike and also illegal in most states, and bikes having throttle only function are also prohibitive d in many states.

This feels very off brand for a Hambini video. The paycheck must of being monumental.

Yep, riding this bike will potentially risk your driving licence We need more progressive laws regarding scooters, e bikes. Sadly the laws favour encouraging vechile use over alternative transport methods

Agreed, not sure how wise it is for Hambini to have this on his channel honestly.

@@emc3065 his favourite journalists will be on to the plod

Which also begs the question of how you could buy it on the bike to work scheme?

Funny how you are concerned about street legality, licenses, insurance and registration in this case when he is riding this thing on a shared use path which are provided exclusively for non-motorised traffic - bicycles and pedestrians. People in cars don't care because they are protected by metal cages and airbags. Imagine you are on a Sunday walk with your wife, little kids and a dog, and this guy passes you going 30mph just a couple inches away. Sadly no-one enforces the traffic law anymore so he will be enjoying himself until somebody gets killed.

Agreed

100% I was early surprised to see this video I thought he had more sense

To be honest. If he is going to "sell out", this is one of the better products to do it with ................. Decent spec for the money, and reasonably made. Just make sure you pedal, and look out of breath when you pass Plod.

Selling out by buying an e-bike? He even says so in the intro but if you don't live in the UK you might not be aware of the scheme under which he bought it (no VAT/sales tax if you use it to commute).

@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 It's not eligible and he did not buy it.

It will also need a licence plate and a road test certificate. Grant Shapps will be delighted!

How do you feel about being coerced into contracting with a private third party (the insurance co.)?

Antisocial no, Close passing pedestrians at 15mph is... 15, 17, 20mph on a shared use is not. Speeds easily achieved by none ebikes.

They would only be antisocial if they used a petrol engine and made a noise .Funny how electric is not

@@mikewade777 But this does 28mph, just on the throttle ................................

Why are they death traps? I'm thinking of getting one for the wife.

@@revolvo5519 are you confirming that it is a death trap as an incentive to buy?

How when ridden sensibly is this more of a death trap than a regular bike?

Too much weight for the flimsy folding mechanism and rear linkage, extremely poor quality tires, bad thin paint, rust everywhere within a year (including inside the electronics), seat rails break etc etc Not to mention funding the ccp buying this piece of crap

@@gustavmeyrink_2.0 Yup, it's literally the same rules as when driving - drive safely as appropriate for the conditions. The laws and mass hysteria against these is unbelievably disappointing, especially from cyclists.

If you look closely you can see him blinking in Morse Code " They've got the hairdresser and will give hear the No 2 buzzcut if I don't shill this bike "

Hambini lost a lot of credibility with this one... featuring a very middle-of-the-road folding eBike with several known issues, shit design, and then opting to say nothing because it was gifted to him.

@@ryans6650 i would be surprised if he actually bought it indeed. Are there no requirements for the tax scheme? This is not a road legal ebike in any way.

I am sure there was new laws bought in not so long back

www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules

Yep illegal. Classes as moped

If a motorcycle type twist and go throttle is fitted it is illegal, a thumb throttle is legal. In the UK if the motor is above 250watts it is classed as a moped.

I'm pretty certain it's not classed as a moped, rather a non-type approved E-bike. There are a couple classes of e-bikes above 250w with throttles in the EU, I've got a legal certified 750w one when we were part of the EU. However, DVLA is behind with implementation of regulations so even most their staff are clueless when it comes to registering and similar troubles with insurance.

Well I have no regrets buying it. It is ace.

Those are low end bikes for messengers/food delivery people. There are good and bad bikes. A lot of those bikes are abused when charging for high output. Many people use modified chargers.

Only after the control system has been hacked.

@@davidfoster3427 everyone hacks the bms.

A simple DIY rubber/plastic/neoprene ... flap attached with a 3M double side tape would solve the issue.

@RealSweetKid Freezing rain or freezing temperatures after rain seems to me to be what could make the frequent use of salt i.e rain and temperature varying around slightly above and slightly below 0°C or 32°F. It's just a guest from a Canadian rider.

@RealSweetKid Yes, so? Any overnight frost prediction and councils grit

Yep, I'll keep the front mudguard on, with the motor, aero is rather redundant, wouldn't even bother saving weight taking the rack and kickstand off.

In British Columbia they'd have to be registered and insured as motor vehicles due to the wattage (max 500/32km/h). And you can't, by law, drive a motor vehicle on a multi-use trail, so these are basically 1000% illegal. Still, there are thousands of them around. Old people whipping down a crowded trail at 50km/h is... not great.

In Italy electric assisted bicycles can only have a maximum speed of 25Km/h. Above that, and up to 45Km/h, you need motorcycle helmet, you cannot drive them if you are younger than 14, you need a basic driving license (if you are 14 to 17, if you are 18 or above it's not required), license plate and insurance. Basically they are treated as 50cc gasoline scooter.

I didnt look close at this video/bike. I havent seen any ebijes without a motor plug for removing the wheel. Electric scooters on the other hand... some of those cunts even put the split rim on the cable side with no plugs. Im here to help you though. Lay the bike on the floor on its side. Its the easiest way to change scooter tires when there is no plug close to the motor. It might also not be that difficult to just unplug the motor from the controller. Ya gotta love cheap shit off alishitba.😂

What problems came up while working with them?

Pretty sure none of the C2W providers would touch this. AFAIK they provide through a network of UK retailers, and those retailers are obliged to sell bikes that comply to safety and e-bike legislation in the UK. I suspect the only way would be if your employer (/your own company) ran a self managed scheme AND the business had it's own consumer credit licence because this "bike" is over £1k....

Not in the Uk!

This is just paid advertisement, he is even including a discount code to buy it from banggood. Do you really think you can get a banggood bike to be approved on the Cycle2Work scheme? He just sold out.

@@acorredorv lol sold out.

I'd like to know this too. If available on c2w I'd get one in an instant

I’m sitting in that market of “designed in California” so what’s the name of the company?

@@basedgodstrugglin It depends on your product and the vendor you're working with. The small bicycle company I once worked for for several years, my boss and I figured out the basic details then traded emails with our partners in Taiwan or Chinda (depending on the product) with the specs and MOQ to get quotes. After that, more emails back and forth, drawings or pictures of the product to verify what it's going to look like, packaging, etc. Most the time we didn't even need a physical sample - but if you want one, add that to your costs. Thing is, when speccing a product, be sure of what you want or DON'T want, because it will - or will not - end up in the final. (Funny story: Our Taiwan partner supplied one part that had a number on it for years - just a random number. People asked what that number meant. We eventually asked our guy about it and he said it was a number they saw on one of the drawings we confirmed - a part number somebody wrote in, I think - so they put that on. Look up the classic story about the lawnmowers made with broken handles) Once everybody's happy on both ends, send in your PO and wire transfer, and prepare to wait. Good vendors also have shipping agents who will book freight and handle customs for you; but if they can't, be prepared for lots more work that you have to do yourself. Then sit back for a few months and pray your container doesn't get knocked off the ship in a storm, the container doesn't get held up in customs at the port, and the truck driver doesn't get lost trying to find your place. And nothing's more fun than unloading a 40-footer by hand in the middle of summer - welcome to hell. We had - and I assume the company still works with them today - great partner suppliers. I see that there's one company - which has been discussed in this thread - that looks like they have the menu or pick-and-choose method. Not all OEM vendors are the same, and your mileage will definitely vary.

Well, isn't that "Special(Ized)"....

@@systemsbroken 😀

Nope, the UK inherited all of the same legislation from when we were in the EU. It's definitely illegal for him to be riding that, and especially douchey to be riding it at 45km/h on a shared pedestrian path.

Yes

Not just UK, most of Europe too.

I think these ones are US spec Ebikes - 28mph The importer was prosecuted for not making it clear that they were not road legal, rather than for just selling them.

@@kevinshort3943 these would require some form of type approval from the dvsa to sell. The old habit of not saying anything at thr point of sale about road use is no longer acceptable. I'm surprised hambimi hasn't pulled this video tbf

@@adamchambers5599 "these would require some form of type approval from the dvsa to sell." Why? They would only need that if they were going to be used on the road. The company you were referring to, were done for not making it clear that these were not road legal, rather than for selling them. "The old habit of not saying anything at thr point of sale about road use is no longer acceptable" Correct, that's why they were prosecuted. I believe these were mixed in with the road legal ones on their website. Remember, these are not illegal, just not legal for use in public places.

@@kevinshort3943 illegal to use on UK roads is what I said. I didn't say illegal per se.

Along with the equally illegal electric scooters :(

Can't you use Google you peasant

I live in wales achieving 30mph without peddling is a breeze... Not an ebike.

Actually in EU it would be rated as a motorcycle since the top speed is over 49,5 km/h (45+10% margin).

No matter what is it rated as, in Birmingham, UK, you can ride it without any consequences. Kids on my street are riding big enduro bikes (with combustion engines), without helmets or registration plates (but in balaclavas). Coppers drove many times next to them. Kids just show them their middle finger and ride off to the sunset. Coppers don't even budge. Seen it many times with my own eyes. It's a wild, wild West Midlands we're living...

@@Bear-Jew similar where I am, however if a normal person was caught riding their slightly less then legal ebike they'd have the book thrown at them!

@@Bear-Jew people drive under the influence or even without a driver's license. Do all of them get caught? No. Does it make it legal? No. It's like driving an unregistered vehicle or driving without a license. Once you get into an accident or something happens you put yourself into a lot of trouble.

Actually that is a myth. Regen doesn't generate anywhere near the additional battery that you gain from normal coasting. It is efficient braking, but it's not like modern brakes don't have plenty of strength by themselves. Hub motors restrict cassette options and hub life as well as wheel life on spoked rims and of course are a hassle fixing flats. Chains do not wear excessively on mid-drives. They do move faster and folks ride longer, but a single human leg exerts a great deal more torque than any e-bike motor and delivers it more linearly.

There's no UK requirement for any protective equipment on any size of moped or motorcycle other than an approved helmet. You could ride naked and be legal, as long as you wear a helmet.

@@weevilinabox Although there is no official requirement to wear protective jacket, trousers, gloves and boots the police will stop you if you are inappropriately dressed and riding in a pair of 'Y' fronts would constitute that, naked goes into a different realm of law. It is highly recommended that hi-vis gear is also worn. Personally, I think you ought to be sectioned for riding without a reasonable level of protective gear having seen the results of bare skin on tarmac and feet caught in the rear wheel/suspension of motorbikes. The more I think about it, Hambini is either intent on a suicidal flouting of the law or he genuinely doesn't realise what he has done.

Pedal efficiency on an ebike, hahahaha

Never seen a honda grom?

@@petef15 I feel like that's slightly more suited for higher speeds, but still I wouldn't be very comfortable on that

@@danoontjeh123 I agree though this thing looks terrible.

Its a linkage driven single pivot, the pivot is on the seatstays rather than on the chainstays in front of the rear wheel axle. 😉

The suspension is just the same as any other fullsus walmart bike ever. The shock is probably ass anyways so the linkages can only do so much

All vehicles are dangerous his ebike is no more dangerous.

@@mikewade777 maybe not. Just illegal in the U.K.

@@mikewade777 it’s not an ebike though. It’s an electric moped. Look up the relevant legislation for the UK🤦‍♂️

easy KOM's v death trap ...

@@darrenelbrow5144 It's still an ebike, if it wasn't there would be no legal/illegality surrounding its motor. Something being class as does not change what it is... In the UK🤦🤦‍

We need a similar update to the law in the UK. The bike as it stands is illegal on the roads here.

(every serious cyclist wears a cycle helmet)... Really, so what counts as a serious cyclist then?

@@mikewade777 Only a very small percentage of people in the Netherlands, if a helmet is key.

@@weevilinaboxreally would matter what country you're from as it does not determine what a serious cyclist is. In other words the statement is meaningless drivel.

Same in GB as EU

Agreed, magnesium wheels are shit. It really degrades the quality of this channel and the credibility of Hambini when he features gifted crap like this and sings high praises about it.

Agree, not keen on them mag wheels. Hopefully low pressure fat tyres enough to counter their lack of repairability.

Should not be available on the ride-to-work scheme, I will not touch them.