I'd honestly prefer a C4 ZR-1 over any C5 and C7. Really any of them besides the C6 ZR-1 and I do like the new C8's. My mom had a C3 that spent most of the time broken down.

The 95 zr1 is my favorite car of all time. How much did you pay for it?

@@Ocoanater I got my 95 c4 zr-1 in 2018 before all the craziness in the used car world for the low price for 25k with 16kmiles. Still feels like I stole it, it’s that amazing of a car.

Agreed! The ZR1 thankfully is still only known by Corvette enthusiasts. Let's keep it that way.

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Agreed. Sometimes opening the garage and seeing the vette is like a dream.

ZR 1 CORVETTE NOT WHATS COMING OUT FOR FACE MADE IN THE USA THANK YOU HAVE A GOOD DAY

That's a great car and an amazing engine.

Me too. I finally got my hands on one and il never let it go!

I got 92 zr1 and its that good.

When I was a teenager my mom had one and let me tell you well they were a week on an Alaskan cruise I found the keys and no 17-year-old should be driving a ZR1. I don’t know how I never put that car into a tree or a ditch but luckily I didn’t otherwise I would not be here today to tell you about this😂

I was going to say the same. ;-)

Congrats. Remember not to pull yourself out of the car using the steering wheel for leverage.

The VR4 is such a cool car!

a mnissan versa is faster than that corvette grow up

Same. Had a 94 C4, 6 spd manual in Black Rose. I had to replace the optispark after my dad and I hosed off the engine not knowing about not getting it wet. 1K later and it was running again. Costly mistake.

@@TheSwampDonkey 93 Black Rose here. Same experience with the opti. Love my car.

As Americans, "Zee" R 1 is how we say it. However, it's not unusual to hear Canadians use "zed" when referring to the letter Z. While it sounds different to us, he's not wrong for saying it. It's similar to differences in American English vs. British English word spelling, for example: color vs. colour and favor vs. favour.

@@tylercrawford8252 Thank you sir

I was tempted to ask the narrator "Where you from, boy?" and then I zoomed in on the license plates and saw "Alberta". I was still temped to point out "They don't say 'zed' where those cars were made 😜"

Zed in Canada Zee in the US.

Jeremy Clarkson and Richard Hammond say Zed-Oh-Six

Such a nice bookend! I just did a vid featuring the ZR1, a C5 Z06 and a C6.

That’s because Z is a letter and not a word, not sure why anyone decided it needed to be a word

Awesome, thank you!

In my country it's Zed, only Americans call it zee

Fantastic! I have owned that ZR-1 you mention but it sold for mid 20’s as I recall. Now owned by my cousin and I rode in it at RMM, was exceptional! Thanks for sharing.

How much maintenance have you done over that time? And I'm curious how many miles you out on it in 22 years lol

The 90 thru 92 LT5's were 375 hp. The 93 thru 95 LT5 had 405 hp coming from a change in cam timing ( I think intake cam timing?) and a very mild porting job which took the intake ports from like 28mm to 32 mm. They had to do a recalibration of the fuel mapping as the LT5 ECM's are a speed density fuel calculation.

I’m 6’6 300lbs and I fit fine in my 08 c6 base

@@toddgorski2452, I have a long torso. I should specify that, technically, I do fit, but I feel neither comfortable nor safe. I feel like I'm crammed into the 'Vette cockpit to the point it's just not an enjoyable drive. The 4th-gen Camaros/Firebirds, because of the rear seat area, allow me to recline the seat back far enough to be comfortable (Note: It has to be a hard-top car...T-top cars have a big ceiling protrusion on the rear edge of the T-top that is right where the top of my head needs to be).

Oh ok I gotcha. Yeah I’d have to agree it’s not the most comfortable sometimes….but being as big as we are gotta sacrifice some comfort for the experience. I just wanted to make sure I let you know it’s possible for the experience. The c7 is a little better….the c8 is the best for us tall guys though. I sat in one and couldn’t believe the leg room. Unfortunately the price tag is a little high for me I have to wait a couple years for the dealer mark ups to calm down.

@@toddgorski2452 , very true. I appreciate your input. That's interesting about the C7s and C8s. From the outside, the C8s look like they'd be the worst for a tall person, but then again, it's a whole different kind of car, so it requires a whole different way of viewing it, but your point about the high price is a good one. Until they come down to normal Corvette prices, the C8s wouldn't be up for my consideration at this point anyway. Looks-wise, the C6s are my favorite generation...particularly the Z06 models.

Yeah I was surprised when the sales person was talking about it to me but then it made sense because the engine is in the back they have extra space up front now for leg room they couldn’t do before.

Only people from the USA say zee, the rest of the English speaking world says zed. If you say zee over the phone or two way radio, people think you are saying cee, which causes confusion. Ask me how I know.

ZED-R1

Do you mean z-R1?

For the performance comparison, those values you suggest are “dirt cheap” comparatively.

The LT1 was introduced in 92, not 86

@@ChrisBrown-pz2gu lol i said it was introduced after the year 86 not specifically the year they put them in the c4s the actual year the LT1 came out was in the 70s and was already being put in corvettes at the time they just reinstalled it in the early 90s vettes to improve performance vs the L98 and The LT1 isnt even the best the best vettes you can get from the c4 line are Callaway twin turbo c4s they are also referred to sledgehammers I believe but i could be wrong. Dont worry i know what they are lol i know what im sayin i have a c4 i have like the oldest 84 crossfire c4 out there rn at least the only stock one.

@@EnthusiastTV they are cheaper than brand new off the line price for sure considering that the zr1s were sold for closer to 65k because of the performance upgrade i can see the “affordability” nowadays but most people dont have that type of money to spend on a car like that but they still want one so they’re going to opt for they mid to late 80s vettes that aren’t as well rounded performance wise yea 3.5 to 5k is cheap for an L98 vette not a lt1 and a zr1 unless you got money these cars are genuinely pricey sports cars as far as chevy. Shoot even the z28 cameros are going up in value as well they are retro era and the market is gonna go up for any of the c4s soon so I wouldn’t count of affordability in the coming years lol

Clean late model C4's in Canada that don't need paint are $15K plus.

I had a lovely, really low mileage 87 and was just thrilled to drive it. Loved the dash! Not a fast car but had character and was quick enough to bring a smile. Iconic look too.

L98 is underestimated as it has gobs of torque making it feel fast.

Yes, believe it or not, the colonies pronounce stuff differently. I know it’s a shock to Americans given you didn’t even invent the language.

Every English speaking country says Zed, why do Americans say Zee?

I think he's farther up than that. If you zoom in on the license plates, they say "Alberta".

ZR1 has electronic ignition no Opticrap

I don’t believe so.

@@EnthusiastTV OK Thanks 😊

@@BrainFuck10 Thanks

I’m not state side. It’s how it’s pronounced in Canada eh…

But those pop ups!

@@LMAOOOOOO And clamshell hood! But C6 Grand Sports are pretty fine.

If you want a C4 for performance, mod up a regular one. The ZR1 is now a collector car, and I suspect parts aren't available like they used to be. The ZR1s 405hp (or 375, depending on which year you get) isn't as impressive as it used to be, and it's geared tall as heck. The ZR1 can go zero to 60 in *1st gear* because it's a 7200rpm Corvette with the same gears as a 5700rpm L98 car. The gear ratios are great for gas mileage in 6th gear, but for acceleration they leave something on the table. You can find LS-series engines with >400hp for kinda cheap, and lots of options for engine mods and gear swaps. Also, if you want a C4 for performance "brace it before you race it". The C4 had a reputation for being built on a wet noodle for a frame, and tho GM didn't quite admit to it, the day they unveiled the C5 they talked about how the structure was *much* more rigid than the C4, and some % more rigid than the Mercedes-Benz benchmark. The C4 frame didn't change much from 1983, when GM didn't have "torsional rigidity" in their dictionaries. The aftermarket has sells a big underbody X-brace, 4- and 6-point roll bars, and various other things that reinforce the C4 frame. They also sell coil-over conversions because the stock transverse leaf springs are *not* the hot ticket for handling at the limit. A bump on one side can travel through the spring and jolt the tire on the other side, and this might be why Corvettes had a reputation for being skittish at the handling limit. But if you see one with a coil-over conversion it looks like the car could have been made that way. I get the impression the leaf springs weren't the engineers' first choice, and they made room for coil springs for owners that were serious about handling.

A modded “regular” C4 is not and will not be collectible in the same way a ZR-1 is. They may get faster but factory original are always best.

@@danielcamacho1913 The C4 can use bracing for serios competition because it wasn't initially designed to have a removable targa roof but hatch roofs like C3. The C4 handles best for spirited driving with the steel framed targa roof bolted in place and there are aftermarket roof braces available for autocross pilots.

Vette. Google tells me 14.7 seconds for the quarter-mile for the 326 HP 2017 Camaro and 13.0 for the 1993 300 Hp LT1 Vette. My guess it's the phenomenal off line traction of the Vette and better aero but if you have the cojones the Vette will walk away from the Camaro with a stable 162+ mph top speed.

Actually in the rest of the English speaking world, we do pronounce the letter Z, as zed.

Yes in other parts of the world the alphabet is pronounced differently than just USA. Not surprised however… great cars - Merica!

@@EnthusiastTV it's odd for us Yank"s to hear that so how do you say zebra asking for a friend ....P.S I owned a 1993 Zr-1 Ruby Red car #95 if anyone sees this hit me up & I will explain why that cars is a terror !

Yes, it’s how it’s pronounced in many countries around world. Merica doesn’t own the alphabet.

Oh man. Things are pronounced differently in other countries Pal.

@@EnthusiastTV If it was manufactured in a diffrent country sure, but the ZR-1 was manufactured in Kentucky, where the designers called it as such. Most people pronounce "Porche" correctly and they don't live in germany. Same with Jaguar. I don't live in Europe or Canada and on paper pronounce words differently, but if someone pours creativity and time into manufacturing something and then gives it a name, I respect it enough to pronounce that name the way it was intended by the people who created it.

@@themathingrelax, we say zed and you don’t, that’s ok. But if you want to get specific, then the English language was created and designed in England. I’ll pretty sure they poured a lot of creativity and work into creating this language and they call and pronounce the last letter of the ENGLISH language , ZED. Is it disrespectful of someone else taking that language and changing it around to fit there local customs? Anyway, we all all car guys, no matter how we pronounce a letter, let’s just enjoy the cars. Btw, I have a 92 convertible with the lt1, and 6 speed manual, and the more people that appreciate these cars, the better. Cheers.