Y si David Bagués era del Ateneu Llibertari, ¿cómo se le ocurrió decir eso de que la televisión estatal es de todos porque la pagamos todos vía impuestos? Suponiéndole inquietudes libertarias/anarquistas, ¿no debería ser capaz de distinguir lo que está en manos del Estado de aquello que las personas poseen, ya sea individual o comunalmente? ¿Acaso la realización del programa le escribió sus comentarios? Si así fue, menos mal que como mínimo no llegó a afirmar aquello de que "Hacienda somos todos": _«What the State Is Not…_ - Murray N Rothbard, *"Anatomy of the State."* "Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and Other Essays." (1974)

grande carlos¡¡ no sereis davi, evaristo y tu el problema , ni la tv, ni sikiera las olimpiadas... el problema es la codicia del ser humano , en todas sus facetas. abrazo desde binefar , donde te seguimos desde sempre como bien sabes

Grande Azagra! A los que éramos chavales, por entonces, nos influenciasteis mucho y eso queda para siempre, aunque ahora este todo mas que controlado.

Respecto a lo que dices de Plastic, totalmente de acuerdo. Cierto es que era un programa con unas entrevistas un tanto "agresivas", con mofas y tal... pero joder... apostaban por grupos que nadie mas hacia. Ahora es cuando da verdadero asco la programación de la TV. Antes aún se podian salvar varios programas interesantes.

por akel tiempo estuve en el Ateneu Llibertari de la Verneda,q fui pa fiestas x una punkarra q conoci en fiestas de huesca i me invito,estuvo bien,Azagra q bueno El pedro pico i elcolegi,evaristo apa

España se ha vuelto kosher chaval

Evaristo a salido en varios programas, lo que no hay es un canal de música

ahora todo esta muerto

La patagonia es chilena

En Euskadi se decía la verdad, la real y en España se seguía la verdad oficial, que no tiene mucho que ver con la otra.

jajaja eso es de pocero, para las cámaras jajaja, no sabes que es el punk

Siempre ha sido así, es muy tímido. De todos modos, el entrevistador no vale para mucho.

¿Y qué va a decir el hombre, si le están haciendo la caricatura y tratando como a un imbécil?

Pero como va a mirar a la cara al pallaso ese,q quieres q le entren nausias?

su forma de ser es de pocos amigos, tiene mas de 50 años y aun es asi, pero un poco mas suelto de palabras..es su escencia al parecer , algo autista, aun asi gran poeta y artista

Lo e pillado ahora tocame los cojones

Calla niño pijo quien te ha preguntado a ti?

_« _*_What the State Is Not_* _The State is almost universally considered an institution of social service. Some theorists venerate the State as the apotheosis of society; others regard it as an amiable, though often inefficient, organization for achieving social ends; but almost all regard it as a necessary means for achieving the goals of mankind, a means to be ranged against the "private sector" and often winning in this competition of resources. With the rise of democracy, the identification of the State with society has been redoubled, until it is common to hear sentiments expressed which violate virtually every tenet of reason and common sense such as, "we are the government." The useful collective term "we" has enabled an ideological camouflage to be thrown over the reality of political life. If "we are the government," then anything a government does to an individual is not only just and untyrannical but also "voluntary" on the part of the individual concerned. If the government has incurred a huge public debt which must be paid by taxing one group for the benefit of another, this reality of burden is obscured by saying that "we owe it to ourselves"; if the government conscripts a man, or throws him into jail for dissident opinion, then he is "doing it to himself" and, therefore, nothing untoward has occurred. Under this reasoning, any Jews murdered by the Nazi government were not murdered; instead, they must have "committed suicide," since they were the government (which was democratically chosen), and, therefore, anything the government did to them was voluntary on their part. One would not think it necessary to belabor this point, and yet the overwhelming bulk of the people hold this fallacy to a greater or lesser degree._ _We must, therefore, emphasize that "we" are not the government; the government is not "us." The government does not in any accurate sense "represent" the majority of the people.[1] But, even if it did, even if 70 percent of the people decided to murder the remaining 30 percent, this would still be murder and would not be voluntary suicide on the part of the slaughtered minority.[2] No organicist metaphor, no irrelevant bromide that "we are all part of one another," must be permitted to obscure this basic fact._ _If, then, the State is not "us," if it is not "the human family" getting together to decide mutual problems, if it is not a lodge meeting or country club, what is it? Briefly, the State is that organization in society which attempts to maintain a monopoly of the use of force and violence in a given territorial area; in particular, it is the only organization in society that obtains its revenue not by voluntary contribution or payment for services rendered but by coercion. While other individuals or institutions obtain their income by production of goods and services and by the peaceful and voluntary sale of these goods and services to others, the State obtains its revenue by the use of compulsion; that is, by the use and the threat of the jailhouse and the bayonet.[3] Having used force and violence to obtain its revenue, the State generally goes on to regulate and dictate the other actions of its individual subjects. One would think that simple observation of all States through history and over the globe would be proof enough of this assertion; but the miasma of myth has lain so long over State activity that elaboration is necessary._ _1. We cannot, in this chapter, develop the many problems and fallacies of "democracy." Suffice it to say here that an individual's true agent or "representative" is always subject to that individual's orders, can be dismissed at any time and cannot act contrary to the interests or wishes of his principal. Clearly, the "representative" in a democracy can never fulfill such agency functions, the only ones consonant with a libertarian society._ _2. Social democrats often retort that democracy-majority choice of rulers logically implies that the majority must leave certain freedoms to the minority, for the minority might one day become the majority. Apart from other flaws, this argument obviously does not hold where the minority cannot become the majority, for example, when the minority is of a different racial or ethnic group from the majority._ _3. Joseph A. Schumpeter, Capitalism, Socialism, and Democracy (New York: Harper and Bros., 1942), p. 198. The friction or antagonism between the private and the public sphere was intensified from the first by the fact that . . . the State has been living on a revenue which was being produced in the private sphere for private purposes and had to be deflected from these purposes by political force. The theory which construes taxes on the analogy of club dues or of the purchase of the service of, say, a doctor only proves how far removed this part of the social sciences is from scientific habits of mind. Also see Murray N. Rothbard, "The Fallacy of the 'Public Sector,"' New Individualist Review (Summer, 1961): 3ff.»_ - Murray N Rothbard, *"Anatomy of the State."* "Egalitarianism as a Revolt Against Nature and Other Essays." (1974)

si me habéis entendido lo que e querido decir bien, si no, no lo explicaré a nadie

no insulto a Evaristo, lo contrario lo alabó, puede ser un poco reversible la frase con la que Mr e explicado.

+Ergô Felix Culpa evaristo es extremadamente inteligente mucho más que cualquier personalidad en la música española incluso el Iosu lo que pasa k no tnia tanta facilidad d palabra

1:26 EL otro diciéndole lo que tiene que decir: Dilo,no te dejan Evaristo:no me dejan

Porque

YaH VeSs Tr0nKoh xD enfin

jhan Corz jajajaja déjalo ...