the envision has been a game changer for me. I'm glad you are having a similar experience as well! Thanks for watching!

Glad it was helpful!

This might be the single best comment i’ve gotten on a video! I’m glad i could help with your decision! I’ll be posting follow up video with me settings for the controller shortly

Same here I bought the reflex fps and after searching a lot I saw this video,cancel the order and already got the envision pro from best buy with 2 years warranty for $29 ,thanks!!!!

@@larryculp6419 happy i could help in making the decision!

Thank you so much!

Thank you! I used the Elite 2 when i was on console and quickly switched to scuf when i moved to PC. Good move on the warranty, there's still no issues *knock on wood* but I am still on my toes.

Thank you!

the controller felt great, i just wish it didnt have issues. Dual sense edge is solid but to your point, only 2 paddles on it.

Something about those reflex controllers resulted in impossible stick drift. But the best buy warranty sounds super clutch, 2 years is more than scuf offers!

@@SjDaSauceGod I wanted to customize my controller, but the two year warrant was just to tempting, especially when I can just walk into the store rather than ship etc. Hopefully I dont ever have to though.

better to have and not need, than to need and not have!

​@@SoxXxOwnsUwarranty on that xontroller is like $50 to $60, not $35

I have heard good things about BB TT, definitely worthwhile!

if the edge had hair triggers and paddles it would be more viable. The triggers on those aren't nearly as mouse clicky as these scufs

I would say they both have the same mouse click type trigger. The envision controller has the toggle to turn on/off this feature. But overall, they appear to be the same.

I had about a 2 week adjustment period with the controller. But i did eventually grow to enjoy it. Best of luck with the impact!

For about a week, I strugged with the triggers on the controller. They felt like they were digging into my index finger. Eventually, I came around to it and it has not been a problem since. I'm not saying that will happen for you, but just wanted to share my story. I hope yours does get better too!

you are correct, i do recommend the envision over the reflex pro.

@@SjDaSauceGod Thank you

I can’t say for sure, i have pretty averaged size hands. But i would say the Envision does feel like it could adapt well to larger hands.

Other than my unboxing video and very brief usage, I can't really do a pros/cons list justice. I will say that I know a few people who use it and are very happy with them, and they use it on PC.

maybe switch the joysticks, the envision is swappable.

@@IsaacVCZ it has nothing to do with that

@@yousufkhan02 okay sorry.

@@IsaacVCZ I just sent in my controller. How long did it take from the day you shipped it and got it back, like 2 weeks

@@yousufkhan02 around 2 and half

You are correct, it is only for PC. I use the scuf envision for PC gaming.

I didn't realize these paddles can be removed! I do know you can't overclock and tha is something I do miss from using my reflex fps. 4th envision in 4 months is actually insane. You'll have to let me know how you feel about reflex fps!

@@SjDaSauceGod the left D pad on the Envision got permanently stuck on one, the Y button stopped working on two of them. The 4th is working just fine, I really just want to try out a true PS controller and heard great things about the Reflex.

@@andylong289 i gotcha, i loved the reflex pro and even reflex fps. I was already accustomed to PS controllers so they were natural in my hand. The learning curve for using Envision was rather steep in comparison to the PS controllers.

Your wrong, you can overclock the envision with hidushbf.

@@Kronospr1. I’m not wrong, it literally does not do anything when you test it. The polling rate is locked at 500.

I am using my carry over from PS5 scuf!

@@SjDaSauceGod thank you! Fits okay??

@@markcoleman86 it fits great with concave thumbsticks!

I'm not sure of the exact legality for warranties. I believe certain credit cards afford warranties for large purchases. But to your point, the 6 month warranty seemed a bit low, Definitely a brutal surprise when i found out the reflex wasn't covered.

​@SjDaSauceGod scuf reflex fps has 12 months warranty now I was about to buy it yesterday but wanna see more reviews first. I wonder if replacing the analogs is as easy as it is on a standard ps5 controller cos I know I'll get stick drift eventually but cba dealing with scuf customer service cos it's soooo bad

@@aimbotwithouttheaim4520 oh really? that is a huge W if reflex fps now has a 12 month warranty. Would have saved me some money! I'm not sure about how easy they are to change but potentially doable. I would check TOS to see if it would break warranty though.

it's ya* boy

Lmao

I have one! I use it when i game on xbox! (Rare for me now-a-days)

Yea plus they break in just 2 months. I’m in the process of returning one

yikes, ive had good luck with hypr's. only problem is the wait times@@krisdegrusha2350

Sorry to hear iCue hasn't worked well. I just checked and it's pulling less than 1% of my CPU. What issue are you having with it?

@@krisdegrusha2350 what happened to yours? Is Scuf replacing with a new one or refunding you?

@@SjDaSauceGod I ordered the scuf envision in dec. it came in sometime before Christmas and it worked fine out the box as expected. The icue software was not very user friendly and after finally getting it set up it would crash multiple times in a gaming session and what not but that wasn’t the issue for me. The problem came about 2 weeks ago when my left trigger stopped responding. I was able to get it to work again by switching it to the long press mode but that’s not what I purchased it to use it for but okay… Within 3 days of that issue I was playing a game and while pressing the right paddle it snapped right off the controller. After further inspecting it I noticed there was a thin white stress line on the opposite paddle that was still attached but clearly on its way out as well. The problem is the design for the paddles is basically made to break. It’s made out of plastic similar to a pen cap and it doesn’t have a joint so every time you press the button you are bending that plastic back and forth weakening it with every press. I messaged them and said I don’t want it repaired I want a refund. They sent me a return label automatically but I’m not sure yet how they are going to handle this once they receive the controller.

needing the iCue app is the worst part of the controller. What issues were you having with the controller otherwise?

yes icue is garbage but i had the controller plugged in and it works just fine, icue was my only complain

@@SjDaSauceGod the icue software would not update the dongle to the latest firmware and it would crash each time I attached the usb c cord to controller. I ended up paying a little more for the Instinct Pro after I returned it to BB.

@@UttRConcrete that's unfortunate but I'm glad you were able to move to the instinct pro instead

I got the envision and i havent had any problem with the software and no stick drift and had it for like 5 month and still no problem

I had my reflex fps overclocked and thought it may be an issue for me. I may be just getting old but the input delay hasn't been much of an issue for me since switching. (i also had problems with reflex so i was excited to get a new controller in the envision)