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I think the current 4mm deep bases are great, they act in my opinion a bit like a picture frame. Makes the miniatures look crisper

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The thing with the bases is that the 4mm of 'useless'' helps a lot with wobly minature syndrome. I play Bolt action (flat base) and 40K (hollow base) and u are surprised how helpful the hollow base is

I gotta say bases without rims always make the mini look “cheap” to my eyes. I like the MWG chaos minis a lot but they would look a lot better mounted to GW style bases- just a much more polished look IMO.

The 4mm base rim is invaluable for magnets! Also Jay going full-on Moon Knight is something i didn't expect but is welcome :P And you're right, those gals look great!

I like the 4mm base rim as it works as a bumper against terrain. I don't want terrain other models bumping my base that I painstakingly created and painted.

You did a really really good job. I’m kind of blown away at how good they look! Also the camera you use to focus in on your painting is really good! What kind is it?

I enjoy making the "rims must be black!" jokes but I paint my space marine base rims the color of whatever company that unit is a part of. If I'm not painting space marine then the base rims are a color that goes well with the base terrain but I will often still default to black.

"I'm not gonna use Agrax Earthshade because that would be like 2 dollars!" * Pulls out entire alchemy kit *

Hollow bases are so you can place stuff on terrain without them falling over all the time

Base height came from being able to fit a slotta tab. Before that models were mostly produced with a cast base that was part of the model.

So when the defense of base rim colors came up, in my head I saw multiple Jay's sitting in an old school lounge with cigar smoke, tophats and monacles. The true debate of our time still yet to be truly solved.

Thanks for this vid! I brought one of the boxes of these minis, then started getting cold feet over the sheer amount of detail. Using washes and glazes and dry brushing'll mean I might actually have a chance of making some good looking models without going mad! Well, Void-Touched. So mad-er I guess.

The 4mm high bases are hollow inside and thus stand way better on rocky terrain, flock, static grass etc. Smooth bottom mini bases tend to fall over on such terrain. On neoprene mats it doesn’t matter.

Just wanna say the 3 jays made my day, this middle one's face was too good

Mate, you are quickly becoming my fav YT-er with your engaging and fun presentation style - Keep it up bro!

I like bases because that way each mini is a display model on its own pedestal. There’s also room to match the rim to the look of your army and give it some visual cohesion while making each unit or model unique within the scheme. There’s also some who like to give each unit a different color base. Running 6 units of cultists and they all look like a blob? Paint each unit a different color rim or even a color stripe to differentiate them when you pile them all up into a melee. This is just my opinion and In no way does it represent what i think everyone should do. Everyone should do what feels right to them! Btw fantastic paint job on these minis! Lovely speed paint

You're crushing the speed painting! Thanks for the video. I have a video idea for terrain, do a build and paint, but also, talk about how different types and shapes of terrain pieces to add to what games and why and how they might be used in game.

I am just starting the hobby and just beginning to paint my grey knights kill team. Thank you for your tutorials and the idea of wooden paint handles. Tho my hands are quite bit so I'm just using longer wood :D After I finish painting them there will be basing!

Being mindful with the premium agrax earthshade? Meanwhile I'm over here knocking over half the pot on to my kitchen table 😅

These look so gooooood!!! Your models are very impressive, you must be very proud!!

those minis look awesome! thank you for the tips! enjoyed the stream and everyone knows you go with a GOLD rim job!

When half of the hints involve a airbrush

Those look class!! do more painting videos!! thanks for the hints and tips.

Jay, 19 models in 8 hours is 25 minutes (and a little over 15 seconds) each. Although you finished with 16 minutes and 3 seconds to spare, so it's more like 24 minutes and 25 seconds each. I think my version of speed painting is getting a squad done within a week...or a month...I've got partially painted Ork Kommandos since December...

Funny that moulded bases are exciting these days :) My memory is that Citadel/GW made "slotta" bases so that they could save money on the comparatively expensive metal used for the rest of the minis (price per figure was a lot closer to price per kg). This was before plastic figures (never mind resin) were at all common (it might be before GW did plastic entirely; it was a long time ago and I can't remember). Around then they began to use base size as part of the game rules as well. Before that models had moulded in bases or even came with separate metal bases which tended to be very small and plain (there were exceptions of course). Re-basing or adding to the base was common among people I knew just to stop models falling over too easily (more than to make them look a any nicer). Anything like the amazing base work people do now was pretty rare then - adding some sand with PVA was positively artistic(!). It was a clever move from GW really; some people didn't like the look of slottas, but you could always cut off the shim and put the models on whatever base you wanted to - e.g. I used two pence coins for a while so they'd match minis from other companies.

Lovely quick paint job. Necromunda is my groups current minature game. It really jingles my jangles, I have a feeling you would really like it. It creates some brilliant cinematic moments, fresh recruits ending up the last man standing, clutch grenades or the guy with one attack taking out the enemy leader with the butt of his gun. Like wise that guy that caught fire, fell off a ledge and and now has a limp or lined up an easy shot, missed and jammed his gun. It's just great

I will be trying this to get my Tyranids painted. Thanks for the tips.

Hah! Jokes on you! I've yet to start painting!! Due to the fear of messing up..

I’ve really been enjoying base coating black and dry brushing grey and white on large batches of models. That for me really sets a good foundation to start with and large numbers of models becomes much easier to tackle

I like raised bases for gluing washers underneath. I like the feel of the weight, plus I have magnetic storage and travel boxes so they stay upright.

Those are some awesome tips for painting. Thank you!

The magic recipe for couple-of-minute models is transparent resin and alcohol inks. A little acetone and you'll have elementals and ghosts with perfect blends at a shocking speed. But that obviously doesn't work for everything.

I have been getting into 3d printing sculpted bases, but I don't have a big printer or enough variety of bases to furnish a whole army

I hope you guys realise just how good your videos are - best mini painting KZfaq channel around

I'm impressed with your end result. Well done!

Awesome techniques. I really need to try you speed painting method. It's a fun way to paint a lot of minis.

I will die on this hill beside you, brother! GOBLIN GREEN!

My mind is going “it would have been faster with speed paints and then worry about making the highlights pop out.”

Great video and technique. Im going to give it a try for Vietnam minis in 28mm.

Great guide! Would be great to see such a guide on your great Night Lords KillTeam 😉

my take: speed paint gaming armies take your time on show pieces and characters

Dang that's a righteous method and result my friend.

I'm actually working on a bloodbowl team with a similair vibe. And even though I like the models and would like to have them be completed, I'm just not excited about painting them. But giving speedpainting a try would be a nice fun challenge. And I think the techniques you've used there would also work for what I have allready prepared (Air brushed base colors/zenithal).

Getting my base highlights before painting is definitely something I need to work on

Gonna need to test your wash formula- Thanks for sharing it.

Such nice minis I have a large group of necrons to paint and hope these techniques help me. Good very vids.

Amazing work!

The 4mm deep bases are a hangover from when GW moved to slotta and the depth was there to accommodate the tab on the bottom of the miniature. The hollow underside of the base does allow it to grip onto uneven terrain and slidey surfaces. That being said they look abit naff and they are not the industry standard in historical gaming.

You know, i think i could get behind the whole no base rim thing

that was some hilarious acting, nice

It's shit like this that makes me pick up my own brush Fantastic work!!!

Lolol the pointing is so triggering. Im gna start doing that on my channel now 😂. YOUR BEST FRIEND 🫵🫵🫵

Pretty nice editing guys!

Black is the only acceptable base rim colour.

That side profile frown will make a great emote, mayhaps a KZfaq livestream one in the future?

My speed painting method is one of two things. EITHER prime, airbrush the main base layer to get a good gradient, bring out details with hand painting (layering or wet on wet), use selective oil washes. OR Zenithal prime, transparent color for base. Heavy all over oil "washes" (much closer to a layer paint consistency than a wash) of various colors and clean off, a few additional highlights, and done. The second method is basically the same here except using oil washes instead of acrylic washes which I find to be a hair faster and give me the results I'm looking for.

They look amazing.

ive never speed painted in my life. i'm still working on a start collecting box from 2020

Oh by he way in an udate the manager is said to stay open to augast 2022 as they are doing these proffing runs and you can always get the models later at raised price.

Hey, what psi are you using for that zenithal, I keep getting a verys spattered effect? Also those look epic.

A Balck Rim under every Base just helps seperating. Your Mini tells his story on his Base. Your Model tells a Story on the Battlefield. There is no other color that just fits between every color better than Black.

From now on, I'm painting rainbow base rims. 20 mins on the mini, 4 hours on the rim.

I personally prefer normal rimmed bases over sculpted ones, because they leave more room for creativity.

WGA's new bases seem pretty cool. That have a magnet slot and are double sided, one flat and one rimmed to hide puddle bases.

Those look amazing!!

Obviously the base rims should be colored according to which unit they're in. That way everything's screwed up once you change your list!

This is perfect for my Necromunda Nomads. Thanks.

I ageee with that 3rd Jay, Goblin Green! Goblin Green!

Don´t you dare to shatter my whole world mister

What paint medium did you use for the glaze?

Those turned out great 👍

amazing work

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Why 4mm of "useless" height? Because unless you are playing on flat surface, that concave shape is much more stable on uneven terrain, than a flat bottom.

Hey jay can you do a series on the start and finish of an mini like some basic steps and a little bit more because I’m having a really hard time getting into thing and stuff love how you paint

Just ordered this set Looking for to trying it out

Speed painting is good for me. Because I'll always go back and do touch ups over time

These look amazing…

Video: you are painting wrong! Me: uh, no, I don't paint at all because I live in a dorm and all my paints and minis are at home

But, but, I'm not speed painting?!

I love necromunda, I used to play back in the 90s. I have been very curious about the new (not so new anymore) Necromunda

I paint my rims red… FOR CHAOS! but also because I like it lol

Great stuff friend 👏 👍

I like the raised height of based minis because I can put a magnet on their base without unbalancing, drilling, or sculpting it in there. It makes them so much easier to transport than any other method.

I treasure my Raven Guard and to mark them from my Guilty Blades (Dark Angel successor), Grey Knights and Iron Warriors, whose rims I paint black like everyone else, I paint my Raven Guard base rims with white. Goes with the snowy base.

Is it really only having your eye on Necromunda if you already own everything you need to play? Yes, because that's how the wargaming hobby works.

Maybe I’m doing it wrong but when I dry brush for highlights it’s applied a lot heavier than what you showed

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Damn, I have been speed painting wrong

I thought about with my high ranking models painting their base rim Gold or Bronze. Just to add a bit of difference amongst my boys. And it would fit my BTs well I think.

I really enjoyed this video. Thank You. personal note. I DM D&D and all My bases are a neutral light grey. :)

Black is easier for the eye to ignore than brown/grey/whatever else, which is why its the 'default' base rcolour - however there's an argument to be made that if the rest of the base isn't black then it maybe doesn't matter if the rim is black, and the best thing is to match the base colours.

Goblin green! Goblin green!

My Custodes have dark purple base rims. Because that's pretty much the only color besides Black and Gold that I used.

Red stuff alzo helpz ya go real fast boiz. When ya squish a gitz you can uze dat red stuff on ya skin. Zoom zoom. #Speedpaint

Goblin Green! Goblin Green!

GOBLIN GREEN! GOBLIN GREEEN!!!

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