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It’s important now to remain Non-judgemental to enable all these children affected to get their voices heard and receive the proper help and therapy that they need.

4 years ago I had never heard of de-transitionners. I assumed Trans was like gay, it just happens. Then I learned about the potential secondary impacts of social to medical transition procedures and was in shock. Then I noted the susceptibility of young gays and children/adults with ASD. Then I reflected on my own passage through pre and actual puberty as well as my own children. I found Stella and Sasha and listened to them quietly, fearful of being labelled terrible things... twice I listened to the GWL podcast seasons... and now, I am so grateful to be aware and thoughtfully approaching this issue. Thank you all for your sacrifices and service. ❤

"Surrender to mother nurture" , that's a lovely thought, especially given your circumstances 🌷 You seem so lovely Sacarlet, I wish you good health and that life is kind to you 🌸

Scarlet is such an intriguing person. I saw an interview with him a couple of years ago and have carried his story in my heart and mind ever since. I feel so much happiness to see the hard earned personal growth which has developed since that interview. I can update my memory of him with delight at the thoughtful and deep thinking adult he has become. His story of medical abuse needs to be shared far and wide. I still have friends, and even a past therapist, who believe that a child can consent to these treatments, when clearly, they cannot. Thank you Scarlet for speaking out. You are lovely.❤

My heart breaks for him. As a dad of young kids, i can't help but wish his dad just gave him a hug, spend some quality time with him, tell him you love him, tell him we all have a weird relationship with our bodies and we grow into them over time, tell him he'll fancy whoever he fancies and that's OK. Just relax and whatever happens will happen. Get out and go for a walk, or swim, or go dancing. Poor kid. Geez these therapists wreck everything. I hope everything turns out now EDIT: i wrote this a bit before some family details were discussed

47:00 when Scarlet says that he was told that his brain developed as a female in utero and then his body developed as a male. THAT EXACT THING was in a parent education manual I was using when I worked with babies and their mothers from 2009-2013. This is a common belief and I believed it until 2020 when I started looking more deeply into these issues.

His story makes me terribly sad and very angry simultaneously. A range of adults, professionals, abused this poor child in the worst ways possible. There has to be legal reprocussions against these abusive adults, or we're all lost as a society. Utterly lost.

this was such an essential watch for me as a desisted female, i can draw so many comparisons between my experience with GAC even though my path started later at age 16. its so clear how homophobia and misogyny impacted our nascent identities. i felt so ostracized for being a weird GNC girl at my school, and doctors immediately reinforced that subhuman view of myself by presenting transition as a journey to wholeness. i wish the negative feelings we had towards our bodies could’ve been deconstructed in a compassionate way, but instead we were immediately pathologized. and as a desisted female i dont know what thats like on the other side, and it would be easy for me to see all trans identified males as autogynophilic if this information wasnt being shared. thank you Scarlet! and happy detrans awareness day 💚🦎🏁

I remember feeling very "squirmy" embarrassed maybe? during a time growth up if ppl would even kiss on TV. Kind of grossed out, attracted, and repused all at the same time... at exposure to a even a hint of sexuality that was so mild, not graphic at all. I also started being aware of innuendo IRL too. It was so uncomfortable especially if i felt someone was seeing me in that way. Maybe i was 10 or 11?? A long time ago :) I can't imagine how deeply affective the things kids are exposed to now are at these particularly vulnerable and formative periods in their development. We really need to stop allowing our children to be exposed to so much pervasive sexuality, especially in unrestricted environments like the internet 😔

Wow. Sending a child to a fetish sex shop? For therapeutic reasons?! I keep thinking I've heard it all, but here we are. Just unreal.

I'm sitting here absolutely stunned. Stunned by how much Scarlet has been through, yet how much composure, wisdom & dignity was maintained while sharing their story. At certain points of this conversation tho, processing everything Scarlet said, & watching the hosts' reactions, I wanted to weep. Thank you all for this incredibly emotional and powerful podcast

These interviews are important. These peoples stories need to be heard. How is a two year old experiencing sexual attraction gay or straight? A two year old is just getting used to walking and speaking in sentences.

Society failed Scarlet and it's very sad and infuriating at the same time.

I am in a shocked state listening to this . The so called medical and therapeutic professionals should be struck off. What an amazing, brave, insightful person Scarlett is . My heart goes out to his mother. Absolutely dreadful. I hope Scarlett gets that lump treated very soon.

Scarlett I am so sorry for all you went to through, and really proud of you and your mother for getting through all that... You sound like a really nice person thank you again for sharing so we can learn what in the heck is going on ❤️❤️❤️

Thanks GWL and guest and especially to Sasha for her great listening and thoughtful questions.

What a gentle, wise and compassionate soul. Thanks for interviewing Scarlet.

What a lovely person Scarlett is, he seems to be so understanding of the shortcomings of others, especially his family and appears to hold no bitterness. I hope, with all my heart that your life is happy and healthy from now on and that you can put all this in the past. Of course that sounds easier than it is but I wish you happiness and blessings because you deserve to have a wonderful and fulfilled life❤

Thank you for sharing your story, Scarlet. You aren't alone. ❤

Scarlet is just sooo sweet! My heart keep breaking when listening to him 💔 Hope things will turn for the better soon

Spironolactone is often prescribed as a dual mild blood pressure med / hair loss treatment for women. It needs to be ramped up gradually, especially for people who don't have high BP to start with... because it can cause syncope. Adult women are typically given 50 to 100mg to start with, ramped up to 200mg if needed. Giving 250mg to a small child straight out is freaking WILD, and an endrocrinologist did this ? WTF.

I wish only the best for Scarlet! ❤

Thank you for sharing your story. It is very important. You are brave for shining a light on how much you were lied too, and then how difficult it been to get a serious medical issue looked at. I do hope that you find caring doctors to help you. They are out there.

Sexualising children whilst killing their sexuality sets them up for what?

Scarlet, that was so informative your history! You are courageous and articulate beyond your years!

What an interesting interview. Stella and Sasha are so lovely and gentle - it was like watching poetry in motion. Having said that, you could certainly see the horror on their faces on several occasions, which was of course, understandable in the context of the evident medical negligence. Sasha appeared close to tears at times (as was I, as a viewer - and a therapist myself). Thank you for sharing your story Scarlet - you’re a very brave and admirable young person. I’m so incredibly sorry the system failed you as it did. I can only hope you now have access to the proper level of care and support you truly need. And I must say, you have a beautiful interpersonal style, which will serve you well in life. Would absolutely love to hear more from Scarlet in the future … if a follow-up interview is on the cards.

Scarlet is such a brave person! Her story really exemplifies how and why it's really impossible for any sort of preteen--no matter how precocious, intelligent, self-aware, or demanding--truly to be able to choose their entire life path at such a young age. It's truly scandalous that the medical professionals she dealt with early on were not much more deliberate and honest in their approach, both with transition overall and with her and her mother as the people affected. I have so much sympathy for what she has gone through.

As an autistic woman who had an eating disorder as a teenager, he sounds like an autistic kid with an eating disorder. It's a such a pity that he didn't get good quality help when he was a teenager. I was fortunate to find a wonderful child psychiatrist who had specialized in family therapy and eating disorders. This (Scarlet's story) is a complete s**t show or malpractice and medical misadventure.

Really great to hear from Scarlet. Your guests willingness to face the reality of what has occurred under the current culture and medical protocols, and embrace and trust his own natural body, bodes well for his future.

Scarlet, you sound like an incredibly mature, wise person and you're definitely lovely! Keep gardening and listening to mother nature!❤❤❤

This is so thick and deep with malpractice…Is this young person filing a lawsuit yet?

Every day should be Detransition Day.

Thank you so much for having these conversations in such a sensitive and beautiful way. I really felt for Scarlet and I hope he finds his way, he seems like a really beautiful person who is needed in the world! And so much of what he said about online grooming resonated with me, even as a cis woman; I'm in my mid-30s now and sometimes I still feel like I'm trying to get rid of the really icky ideas about sex and my body I found in "conversations" I had online as a young teen and I can't imagine how bad it would have been if it had started even earlier. But thank you also for pointing out how weird it is when the theory of transsexuality is shaped by autogynophilic middle-aged men and how invasive and harmful those ideas are when applied to children.

I’m totally baffled about how it was he became a ward of the state. So many single moms raise their children. Does anyone know how this happens?

Scarlett is very mature. Same age as my kid, with a very similar story just ftm. But the autism, the being different, the being a gay adolescent who is trying to fit in, very similar. I’m proud of you Scarlett and I know your mom is too.

I wish I was an attorney & could start an organization to bring legal representation for every detransitioner & all the other people who have been harmed by this ideology against the medical establishment, the media, NGOs & non-profits. I'd sue the f**k out of anyone & everyone who harmed these kids, or who allowed women to be raped in prison, or who caused girls & women to be injured in sports competing against men, etc. I hope there is justice for Scarlet & Chloe & Ritchie & Keira & so many others AND for Kathleen Stock, Rachel Rooney, & so many others who were bullied out of jobs or careers by professional organizations or universities.

Autistic special interests and do not need medicalised! If you notice a kid's interest is stopping the kid doing other stuff that the kid needs to be doing, then you intervene to help the kid have the balance that he or she needs, but you don't act preemptively on that. Just don't make a big deal out of special intrests, support the interest to a reasonable point, and let the kid enjoy it. That's the really cool part of autism. No need for a kid to feel pathologised over it.

Love the idea that since transitioning isn’t an actual reality than nor can detransitioning can be. A simple concept but I never thought of it that way. Perhaps we should think of it as a return to reality rather than detransition.

Will watch later. 🌱

You have a great dynamic!!

Scarlet, thank you for sharing. I hope for the best for you (and I hope you have explored lawsuit options - you were subjected to medical malpractice).

Your outlook is comforting, Scarlet. Acceptance is the only way to view the harm done to you, and wallowing in anger only serves to exasperate the inevitable pain. When those who may mean well tell me I'd be freed if I could just 'forgive' my adult brother for violently r*ping me when I was a teen, I say I have to accept it, I have no need to forgive a r*pist for my own sake. It was what it was, it adversely affected me obvioulsy and that deep pain raises its head from time to time (I also employ breathing exercises as Scarlet does), but it happened and here I am. Thank you all. I look forward to the follow up - and prevention discussions. No child should be told the price of happiness requires a life on drugs or a surgeon's scalpel.

Scarlett is so well spoken. I wish I could get my son to watch h this.

Another absolutely disastrous and truly dishonest thing that was done to Scarlet had to do with what she was told about dating. I think so many gender-affirming people, who usually have good intentions, make believe in their minds about how accepting straight men would be of transwomen. The truth is that the vast vast vast majority of straight men would never knowingly date a transwoman, especially if she hadn't had bottom surgery.

I think you’re all remarkable. Thank you for this episode. If you’re comfortable answering this Scarlet I was curious to understand more about you being a guardian of the state. Do you mean you a court appointed guardian but lived with your mom? Wasn’t sure if this was part of your parent’s custody agreement. No pressure to answer this but it seemed like you might have wanted to say more about it. I did see your first interview that you mentioned at the end and I appreciated hearing about you and your medical care back then. You’re brave, wise and kind.

I love your mom. I feel her pain. I feel the fear of going against the “Mama instincts” because someone “who knows more than you” tells you you’re being transphobic and I know the guilt of “why didn’t I listen to my instincts”. And she just has to forgive herself. I’m sure that you speaking out helps her healing.

You need to see a doctor about that lump!

How do you not have more subscribers?

I felt great sadness hearing about Scarlet's ostracism from the beginning.

I have been studying the newly diagnosed adult autism people, is it possible the psychologist are brainwashing people to think they're autistic when they're not... Google some newly diagnosed autistic adult videos or ableism or allistic... It's all very bizarre I feel so sorry for this person here, just getting started on the show looking forward to the rest of it..

It seems these kids/young people have no sense of self. They feel so unworthy and unimportant that they dont even know what to think of themselves?? I was a teen in mid 90s but would i have been trans? I say no to that question now, but im 45. My 45 brain is not the same as my 14 yr old brain. I hated my body, felt like i was looking in on everyone, didnt feel real, felt worthless and felt like no one gave a crap about me. Didnt really have close friends. Im not autistic but have some traits. Now, im okay with my body, but i still dont feel like im not in the world, not real. I cant look in the mirror or at pics of myself. It took me 42 years to finally feel like im worthy and deserve love, too. Im doing better than i was. Anyway, i was emotionally neglected most of my childhood and teen years. I was physically neglected for several years when i wad 5,6,7. My parents were nice. My mom became a stay at home mom when I was 8. She was always there with me, but not emotionally. I did my own thing or hid in my room. They were never emotionally or physically abusive (my maternal grandmother was emotionally abusive to all her grandkids). They were teen parents and didn't know how to raise kids. I dont blame them, and they did the best they could. But i wonder if parents not emotionally being there for their kids might be one of these reasons? Not like the parents are purposely doing it. But all the time we're on our phones and getting distracted. Being ignored really hurts. It really bothers me when im talking to someone, and they're looking at their phone. I feel they're not engaged in the conversation. Also, kids not having as much independence and space. Not learning things out for themselves. What they should and shouldn't be doing. Im curious if those are some of the reasons. And of course it being a trend and online peer pressure saying how great they'll feel if they change. I had a ED and thought when i got skinny enough, I'd feel better. NOPE! It made me feel worse. But it makes me really wonder what's going through their minds. They need strong, supportive parents who'll be there for them, but also push them towards independence. I was terrified to do anything when i was a teen. My parents forced me to learn to drive and get a job, not for money, but for life experience. Im so glad they did because id probably still be at home terrified to do anything. Im still scared to try new things, but I'll push myself to do them.

Thank you so much for sharing this video. Brave young person!! It's such a shame you had to go through so much at such a tender age. The truth will shine through the darkness in Jesus Christ's Name Amen.

If I understood this correctly, there was a doctor who pushed harmful drugs onto Scarlet, threatened to separate the family if the mom didn't go along, wouldn't answer the patient's questions about the expected effects of the treatment, in fact punished Scarlet and his mom for asking questions. Furthermore this doctor made his child patient aware that the doctor has some sort of sexual or possibly asexual preferences (why??) and Scarlet to this day won't mention what that is. It sounds a bit like an adult over-sharing their sexuality with a child and asking them to keep a secret. I hope I'm misunderstanding this, because that would be piling on even more messed-up stuff on top of everything else Scarlet was subjected to. But on a happier note, Scarlet is intelligent and resilient and will move on from this. He and his mother managed to protect him from getting castrated, as those quacks were pushing for, and that is a major win. This case is so upsetting.

Isn't it normal to wonder about one's body and perceived flaws? I took worried about my nose and wanted it to be different

Admitting, by a long stretch of imagination, that nazzi doctors had the excuse of being frightened by Mengele, what is the excuse of these doctors ?? And why are they still allowed to practice ?? And not in jail ??

Both "Trans" and "detrans" are perspective frameworks. They describe (inaccurrately) both the mindset and medical interventions and the ceasing of them.

It's notable how often we hear doctors describe "female sexuality and desire" as being less strong than "male sexuality and desire". It is heard quite often from males who have gone through genital sexual surgeries who really equate what they experience now sexually, after surgery, as being "just like what natal women experience". They do not realize how much this exposes their ignorance.

He probably would have just been a normal effeminate gay man who would have lived a happy life. These people took all these possibilities away from him. What happened to him is criminal.

At least the person at Janet’s closet tried to protect Scarlett…. Sheesh. I know the mom had to have been so traumatized by all of this as well.

50:42 At this point Scarlet was talking about how seeing his body change as he was going through puberty (if a little quickly, if I understand correctly). He said that he felt like his body was changing too fast and that his body was warping into something unnatural. This seems to me a relatively normal, but unpleasant part of puberty and for people like Scarlet it’s massively exacerbated by the homophobia they’ve faced and the constant medicalisation, to the point where pathologising puberty and his own normal physical development feels necessary (tho at this stage he’d already had some gender “treatments”). I guess what I’m saying is - does any kid get through puberty and through the unbelievable changes their bodies go through unscathed?? Shouldn’t we empower young people by saying “yeah this period of your life if really hard, but you will get through it!” Not, pop em on the operating table then!

S/he's so androgynous and beautiful and refined - exactly what millions of young people want to be. S/he could be a supermodel of either gender. You know you're living in a twisted society when a sensitive, unusual, truly original person like this is driven to see themselves as defective, and in need of medical correction.

Anyways we csn reach out to the kid to be an inspiration for other kids? When these kids talk to others who are in the verge kf makjng same mistakes they can be saved.. he is just gentle hearted kid who can save many lives ❤

No wonder he was anxious...being excluded from films etc

Actual discussion begins at 8:20

I looked at him at the start of the metting and thought, he was Gay, not trans. I hope he can just live a wholecand happy life.

Hope hope that he has developed talents and hobbies and pleasurable activities.

Animals don‘t ruminate over perceived body issues…this is a fundamental misunderstanding, calling a teenager ruminating about being ‚ugly‘ as animalistic. I‘d call that hormonal, and normal….animals live in the moment and are not judgmental

At this point, it has been well established, from "de-transistioners" themselves, that happy childhood for so-called 'trans' is an oxymoron.

The blame starts with the mother for affirming him

Scarlet still has the woke ideology and terminology. He says ‘homophobia’ and ‘fragile masculinity’ were obstacles.

Scarlet’s claim they he was a partly a ward of the state because of dad leaving does not seem possible. I’ve never heard of a law like this anywhere. The state gets involved when there is neglect or abuse, not simply when one parent is not present.

I am so depressed to listen o this poor kid

The horror show of scarlets story! Her poor mother too!

Jesus this is awful.... those "doctors" who hurt him should end up in prison....

Thank god gender in pronouns only exists in 3rd person.

Parents? Parents? None here?

This is a classic case of transing the gay away.

One can't imagine a more perfect case of misinformed consent. Not only is the patient badly informed but the pleas for information by son and mother are not only resisted by the clinicians but disapproved by the clinicians as resistance and denial. This also seems to be a case of gender confusion, not so much a clear wish to transition which would have benefited from talk, which in the end may have led to Scarlet appreciating that getting used to being a gay man leads to a lot safer and happier life than messing up his pituitary. By the way shouldn't a standard piece of informed consent to medical transition be that it reduces the dating pool dramatically as Scarlet discovered too late? Scarlet has done a good job of making peace with his flawed gender journey. Acceptance is important, but, he might benefit from a dose of anger. Scarlet is courageous to "add his story to the conversation" and allow clowns like me to opine on it. Where are the equally courageous lawyers?

I don't understand how Scarlet is autistic. This is autism? What? Obviously I'm behind the times. When I was a kid in the 1980s, the autistic kid in school was quite obviously behaviorally different - couldn't really talk, for instance. The definition of autism must have wildly expanded. If it's helpful for Scarlet to identify as autistic, then great. If it isn't, I would say Scarlet could let that label go.

Why did they treat you like an outcast that was the problem right there?

What on earth is she wearing? A glittery grey sleeveless turtleneck jumper with a zebra-striped tank top. My god!

I don`t believe in pronouns

Yes. The parents and medical exoerts must affirm the child. Otherwise, the child will commit suicide. The minor child knows what is best for them.

Boring . He will always be a victim

Is this channel ever going to highlight a single out of so many positive trans stories? I feel like focusing only on the negatively impacted one's creates a very biased and unrealistic view. Detrans people have all my sympathy and I wish they have known transitioning wasn't right for them since the start but sometimes you can't know until you go through it, and I hope they get all the love and support that they need. That being said I also sympathize with so many trans people whose lives have only gotten better since transitioning.

Dude act like a fool. Way to affected and exaggerated

Hopefully Scarlet will masculinize beyond recognition and then not accept it and have to deal with that grueling pain. That's the life Scarlet is sentencing other transgender youth and even adults to because scripts are getting tough to come by. Scarlet should have went for the orchiectomy and low dose estrogen as patient stated that womanhood wasn't thought about but controlling secondary sex characteristics was paramount. If you have these inclinations and fears of harsh male secondary sex characteristics before your teens, they do not go away. I know as I live as a male eunuch and had to do a dance to get treated by playing the "I want to be a woman card" to obtain the medicine and only the medicine. Hopefully you'll agonize over what you let slip through your hands!

I'm getting tired of all the BS. 40 minutes in and I have no idea what makes this kid special. Can someone tell me if he cut his junk off or not?

physical illness induced depression. It's your body's way of making you take a much needed pit stop cuz ur running it into the ground. slow mind, reduced demand on body chading after "stuff", gives body some room to heal

what part did immersion in fantasy play in your initial dysphoria? did you watch/read anime? get into any "game lore" like Undertale? or was a charismatic individual influencing you

Scarlets story is so shocking and upsetting and it made me abit angry and no one ever should have to go through what Scarlet had to go through especially children and the adult involved should know and should have known better and the doctors use to have to sign a Hippocratic Oath before hey could get there liences and to be trusted to medically work with the public and there health wich means that (the Hippocratic Oath says this)>>> “I will use my power to help the sick to the best of my ability and judgement; I will abstain from harming or wronging any man by it,” It orders doctors to do their best in their job and not use their skill or knowledge to harm or kill their patients.)

family of wealth..? that's a common denominator ... luxury comfort foments exotic ideas....children glom on to fantasy, parents indulge due to secret shame... child walls off in basement game room immersed in Undertale FanArt.

autism?!? certainly not nonverbal!

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