EP 2 - $6000 Carbon Fiber RC CAR Has 4 Motors And 60 Horsepower

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Raz Shifrin

Raz Shifrin

2 жыл бұрын

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@KevinTalbotTV
@KevinTalbotTV 2 жыл бұрын
this thing is gonna be crazy!! 203 here we come!!
@DeRock401
@DeRock401 2 жыл бұрын
You better hurry up with that build Kev!!!
@Andre_Thomasson
@Andre_Thomasson 2 жыл бұрын
more like 300 lol
@nickbowker5134
@nickbowker5134 2 жыл бұрын
Shame you got your hands full with your monster truck, would like to have seen a race to the record between both of you
@1521joe
@1521joe 2 жыл бұрын
you got that shredder ready kev?
@vincenttuttle3643
@vincenttuttle3643 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah that race would get crazy views
@brandonb.288
@brandonb.288 2 жыл бұрын
Raz - the machining and workmanship is absolutely top-notch! You are probably learning so much from this type of extreme build that many 'makers' would never get the experience to learn because of the sheer problems surrounding the power transfer alone. That doesn't even account for trying to keep everything inside of the car's footprint and map out where the parts need to go to make it work. Bravo on an amazing build.
@robertocastillo6002
@robertocastillo6002 2 жыл бұрын
Top noch build as usual, but man, editing is at the same level if not better. The first part of the video and the conversation with the machinist is awesome 😝😝😝, you made my day. Keep pushing Raz!
@midship_nc
@midship_nc 2 жыл бұрын
Thermal expansion on the gears could be a problem, looks like custom one piece pinions joining the two motors on each side would be an alternative. Good work Raz!
@Mad.Man.Marine
@Mad.Man.Marine 2 жыл бұрын
What form of expansion are you thinking about? Radial? If you mean the width. Then I can’t see why it would ever be a problem. They are spinning the same direction. Now radially. I could maybe see that as a problem. But it could be adjusted out so the tolerance would be right once they are at running temp. Would just be a little loud while warming up the first few runns
@midship_nc
@midship_nc 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mad.Man.Marine axial expansion towards each other, I know for a fact those motors do not use thrust bearings and only have two radial ball bearings on the shaft which cannot handle axial loads. The shafts and the gears will expand with heat. It will at minimum create extra drag and convert wattage into heat. Long term it will ruin the bearings in the motors. To deal with this he could use a captured one piece pinion with needle thrust bearings for each pair of motors that floats on the shafts with no set screws and would allow for expansion. This may seem over engineered but I can't help it, I work with bearing tribology, and industrial rotating equipment reliability every day lol.
@Simon-jr2oe
@Simon-jr2oe 2 жыл бұрын
How much would it expand? I don’t rly see it expanding enough to be a problem
@midship_nc
@midship_nc 2 жыл бұрын
@@Simon-jr2oe a rough formula for stainless thermal shaft for growth is length x temperature rise x .0000065(coefficient for stainless shaft growth) 4.5"x140x0.0000065= .004" Then multiply that by 2 because there are two motors end to end which is over .008" 8 thousandths converted to metric is 0.2mm+ and Raz said there was about a third of a mm clearance between the gears at ambient. Include the growth of the pinion gears themselves, or higher temperature and yes it could be contacting and creating an axial load on bearings not designed for such forces. Additionally these are "permanent" lubricated bearings and that oil will be vaporized by the heat and contribute to additional friction and losses.
@emusp
@emusp 2 жыл бұрын
The gears will strip 100%. Should at least have used herringbone for lager contact area.
@EvanPonton
@EvanPonton 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, so satisfying to hear the gear mesh. Beautiful work as always Raz!!!
@RazShifrin
@RazShifrin 8 ай бұрын
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@jboogierc1820
@jboogierc1820 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. This build looks amazing! Thank you for taking us along on the journey!
@audiquattrojamie
@audiquattrojamie 2 жыл бұрын
Always taking it to the next level Raz, this is awesome! I’m sure this put a smile on your face when everything fitted so neatly, with such fine tolerances 👏👏👏👏
@dondagy9109
@dondagy9109 2 жыл бұрын
Your explanations are great. Im not a newbie, but for those that are, you make it about as simple as you can for such a complicated setup.
@no-expert
@no-expert 2 жыл бұрын
As a child/teenager I was really into RC cars (still am) and I always dreamt of a custom build like this - thank you for sharing!
@marinjeam
@marinjeam 2 жыл бұрын
love the milling, drilling, cutting everything🔝 very clean build wow🤘 gogogo🏁
@Pablo668
@Pablo668 2 жыл бұрын
That was pretty cool. I was a machinist when I was younger, so that's all very familiar to me. Ughughughugh! Looking forward to more of this car. Wonderful parts from Scorched btw. I reckon that you might have problems with that set up, the pinions and shaft gear. Happy to be wrong though.
@Captinfun101
@Captinfun101 2 жыл бұрын
Man you do the most epic builds Raz. I’ve just done my first scorched infraction chassis , Raz carbon shafts , all the other carbon goodies and it’s all thanks to you and some of your tutorials vids. Thanks heaps.
@paulus842000
@paulus842000 2 жыл бұрын
Omg😮😯 those scorched RC parts look absolutely beautiful. I have lots of questions about this already but I don't want to bother you too much with them. This is exciting, can't wait to see the next video. ❤️ Sending you love from France 🇫🇷
@justinmoore2977
@justinmoore2977 2 жыл бұрын
Really really impressive, I have to think the middle drive gear is going to get beat on pretty badly. Having some form of mechanical slip clutch in that center gear may save it and still transfer the power.
@user-TJ365
@user-TJ365 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone is speculating about what is going to fail in the drivetrain. I am confident Raz will find the weak link on the first outing. Keep pushing the limits, it’s what makes the hobby so much fun.
@fuhkoffandie
@fuhkoffandie 2 жыл бұрын
driving down the road and never let your eyes off the gears, some priceless video. that editing was gold. oh yeah, I got a question. I know this sounds a bit excessive, but, are you going to clock those motors, so they're exactly in phase, considering that they're hard locked to each other (no clutches, slippers, etc.)?
@markmmm1737
@markmmm1737 2 жыл бұрын
Looks good but I have doubts. Those gears will be stripped due to the power and the tiny area of contact. Personally I would turn around the motors and use 2 spools this will give you 4 times the surface area for the pinions and much less stress on the now doubled spool gears. Hope it works out for you, all the best.
@mixmashandtinker3266
@mixmashandtinker3266 2 жыл бұрын
Or he could make the shaft sprocket wider.
@nathanwest2304
@nathanwest2304 2 жыл бұрын
realistically we are talking about an RC car here, the tires would spin long before anything would be close to slipping
@markmmm1737
@markmmm1737 2 жыл бұрын
@@nathanwest2304 Then you have never seen a stock rc car strip out it spur or pinion gears.
@nathanwest2304
@nathanwest2304 2 жыл бұрын
@@markmmm1737 steel gears, 5mm engagement on either side, properly meshed, it's gonna be fine "Stock" really doesn't say much, could be plastic or aluminium gears, not meshed correctly, heck, even the wrong type of steel could be reason enough ever see a 4.6 bolt? gonna strip long before it's tight
@highwaytoquail754
@highwaytoquail754 2 жыл бұрын
Would you be able to have 2 motors run the left drivetrain and 2 on right? I don't know hardly anything about electric RC's. I take it with programming, the 2 sides could the trimmed to match power???
@midnitejmpr9429
@midnitejmpr9429 2 жыл бұрын
Ok I was not expecting the way the motors meshed to the drivetrain to be like this….. what an absolute unit
@rajgill7576
@rajgill7576 2 жыл бұрын
Im looking at this already and chassis flex will be changing your mesh dynamically. I would say put another carbon plate to stiffen everything above the motors as well, like a brace. It will help immensely
@bundles1978
@bundles1978 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, I also have my doubts that the pinion can take all that torque. otherwise a sick build. cant wait to see it run. better feed power in slow
@otm646
@otm646 2 жыл бұрын
You're always going to be fighting flex, he really needs to pause and redesign the motor mount assembly to be monolithic. That's the only way you're going to get the required stiffness out of it..
@AutoBodyEverything
@AutoBodyEverything 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I hope spool don’t explode under load. This is insane!!!! Thanks for sharing all the great content and creative engineering.
@pipnmaz
@pipnmaz 2 жыл бұрын
The music at the beginning is awesome and suits the video completely. Celebrate the quadness and the machining of the pinions on some classic machines.
@samcourtrc6767
@samcourtrc6767 2 жыл бұрын
This video was amazing raz I can’t wait to see these new builds on the runway
@Planehazza
@Planehazza 2 жыл бұрын
I came here for the RC car video, but I can't help but notice how awesome your home is!
@MauzyrockRC
@MauzyrockRC 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing. Being rather new to the hobby, I love to get a clear sound of other peeps gear mesh. Strange but it helps lol 👍👍👍
@integrityrc7356
@integrityrc7356 2 жыл бұрын
Your editing is getting insane 😎 Once again. Elegance applause 👏
@never-stock-rc2968
@never-stock-rc2968 2 жыл бұрын
Raz this is the best channel on KZfaq by far IMO!! and this is the kind of stuff the rc world needs!!! Super EP Raz!!! Keep it up!!
@keithbranch7718
@keithbranch7718 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely is and the most professional n take the build serious still love watching Kevin channel...
@never-stock-rc2968
@never-stock-rc2968 2 жыл бұрын
@@keithbranch7718 right! When I build a rc I honestly try to build them like Raz super clean top quality go fast parts and less is more sometimes. I look at it if I'm going to spend 150 on a semi ok servo why not go all the way in and get the best money can buy even if I have to save up. My k8s exb build is finally done an it sits at about 2100.00 that not including my spektrum dx5r pro 2021 radio..... Waiting for Xmas to drive it for the first time! Cheers!
@ferror4652
@ferror4652 2 жыл бұрын
The sound of success! Amazing build
@ghostly07
@ghostly07 2 жыл бұрын
This build is epic! It even has more horsepower than my car!
@mmalone2107
@mmalone2107 2 жыл бұрын
Omg! Amazing build as expected ;-) can’t wait to see more!
@justindover8142
@justindover8142 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always brother!!! Cant wait to see her finished up!!!!
@jrussell2k6
@jrussell2k6 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely epic! Keep up the great work
@angesrcs
@angesrcs 2 жыл бұрын
My goodness raz. 😮😮😮. that is an absolute insane, wicked build. can’t wait to see the video on the speed run. 👍🏼🚗
@watson9897
@watson9897 2 жыл бұрын
That is some gorgeous craftsmanship right there. Absolutely beautiful
@MarkSantaMaria
@MarkSantaMaria 2 жыл бұрын
Sheesh! That thing is nuts! Excited to see it run!
@jarviswoychuk7758
@jarviswoychuk7758 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos keep getting better and better it’s great
@slyknezz6862
@slyknezz6862 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see how this turns out!
@stayfunsteven2207
@stayfunsteven2207 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t even watched 1/4th of the video but the intro I already love it
@sh1nan1gan5
@sh1nan1gan5 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for this amazing build to fire up.
@minecrafterfun
@minecrafterfun 2 жыл бұрын
I completely lost it when he started exercising! 😂 This is awesome!
@fishtailfistscale8362
@fishtailfistscale8362 2 жыл бұрын
The machine shop is always epic. You build awesome toys Mr. Shifrin 🏆🎥🤝🤙
@KiloWattRC
@KiloWattRC 2 жыл бұрын
Did you wake up from a dream one day and say you want a quad motor limitless? Epic build man
@ianbudgetrc2574
@ianbudgetrc2574 2 жыл бұрын
Epic intro. That machinist is a hero!
@jeremybertrand7931
@jeremybertrand7931 2 жыл бұрын
I like how your videos are like a motion picture production! Awesome!
@Paul0088
@Paul0088 2 жыл бұрын
awesome cant wait to see it run
@stevenrogersfineart4224
@stevenrogersfineart4224 2 жыл бұрын
Badass guy right there :) Machining well is definitely a super power!
@soundmindtv2911
@soundmindtv2911 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, the drama and tension!! Haha, I love it!!
@blueshiftrobs
@blueshiftrobs 2 жыл бұрын
Love it ! Absolutely epic build
@ChiefRickyRC
@ChiefRickyRC 2 жыл бұрын
Champ is here! Keep it up!
@ikijervis
@ikijervis 2 жыл бұрын
Lov that content!
@meanmachinesrcclub
@meanmachinesrcclub 2 жыл бұрын
Super intro man! 😍! Let’s see this happen!
@ronp1436
@ronp1436 2 жыл бұрын
מדהים!!
@whimsicalcellbooster
@whimsicalcellbooster 2 жыл бұрын
The more the better 🤣 I like this idea.
@DIYwithBatteries
@DIYwithBatteries 2 жыл бұрын
This is awesome man 👍
@henrytang2203
@henrytang2203 2 жыл бұрын
That's more power than some road cars. I'm genuinely impressed.
@technicalmadman2986
@technicalmadman2986 2 жыл бұрын
Great project" very well engineered, I think I'll get back into RC one day when I have time..
@JEEEPEEES
@JEEEPEEES 2 жыл бұрын
Mega video this time, well done! Looking forward to see her performing.
@vsci79
@vsci79 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely!
@MrGreen-il3iq
@MrGreen-il3iq 2 жыл бұрын
It looks very very nice 👍🏻 really pretty thing! Merry Christmas Dude🎄
@madmatt2769
@madmatt2769 2 жыл бұрын
Raz it is one epic build! Awesomeness 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
@Shadow-sv9gj
@Shadow-sv9gj 2 жыл бұрын
RAZ YOUR SOO COOL !! YOU SHARE YOUR WORK YOUR ACHIEVEMENTS WITH THE WORLD . YOUR A LEGEND !!!!
@blacksheeprc8113
@blacksheeprc8113 2 жыл бұрын
You have the cleanest builds ever
@ChiefRickyRC
@ChiefRickyRC 2 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Northern MN 🥶! Awesome bro, top shelf!!!
@joshchatwin8569
@joshchatwin8569 2 жыл бұрын
Man that’s awesome but I don’t think them pinions will handle the power of them motors great video and love what you do keep it up can’t wait to see this beast running
@Dragonewiz
@Dragonewiz 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE your instuction videos !!!😉😉👍👍I have some rc cars and love them...but don't know alot about the things you are doing 😲😲...but... with your instuctions i really understand alot more about keeping my cars running great...!!!👍👍 "GREAT VIDEOS THANKS FOR YOUR TIME ...AWESOME...!!!🙏🙏😉😉
@christophberlin2871
@christophberlin2871 2 жыл бұрын
I am more interested in a tour of this gorgeous apartment. Amazing design…oh yeah, good RC work ;)
@bigcatdairy
@bigcatdairy Жыл бұрын
I like the wall paper, it's gorgeous
@uivideo7637
@uivideo7637 2 жыл бұрын
Great work, keep it up.
@yo.its.michael9425
@yo.its.michael9425 2 жыл бұрын
This puts a new perspective on an all motor car
@helicopter7730
@helicopter7730 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to add that your mechanical skills are excellent and the car looks awesome. But my comments below about the motors still stands.
@freedomforourfallen3755
@freedomforourfallen3755 2 жыл бұрын
That’s sick
@jamesmccoy204
@jamesmccoy204 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely crazy brother!!!!
@daddy9bot937
@daddy9bot937 2 жыл бұрын
Man This Monster is gonna be amazing~!
@mikeymike3240
@mikeymike3240 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Raz, genius idea man, really liking your engineer 👷‍♀️, he’s a funny 😆 guy.
@ChiefRickyRC
@ChiefRickyRC 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Better hurry! I'll be hitting 205 next summer 😉
@davidnotgidenko
@davidnotgidenko 2 жыл бұрын
Recently subbed. Love ur vids
@alberthofmann420
@alberthofmann420 2 жыл бұрын
Brutalesch!
@stephenstoufer3948
@stephenstoufer3948 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of turning the motors around and using 2 Pinocchio Spools to run directly to the gearbox
@sddiymakeitworthit7512
@sddiymakeitworthit7512 2 жыл бұрын
Super awesome 👏
@matthiasreichwein1775
@matthiasreichwein1775 2 жыл бұрын
You and that old guy are amazing
@dalaw6600
@dalaw6600 2 жыл бұрын
I dont even have an RC..... One day...... Butni love watching your builds
@andyb9994
@andyb9994 2 жыл бұрын
I'm probably a little behind on your channel but I will catch up, anyway the car looks very nice, very clean & neat...👍👍
@MaxPorsche-ei5jo
@MaxPorsche-ei5jo 2 жыл бұрын
Your pinion is as big as my spurgear . Crazy build.
@JacobusRC
@JacobusRC 2 жыл бұрын
Belongs in one of those museum display cases!!
@N4CR5
@N4CR5 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting design. Very curious if you will get shaft harmonic issues, maybe a 2 piece design with unequal lengths to mitigate if so?
@krisallen6466
@krisallen6466 2 жыл бұрын
Man I have been waiting for this vid and can’t wait for the running vid as well. You are truly a genius and a leader in the rc world. Everyone else is just a follower.💯
@diyelectricbiker9361
@diyelectricbiker9361 2 жыл бұрын
The intro is epic.
@florianreinfeld640
@florianreinfeld640 2 жыл бұрын
I love that Phantasialand-Music👍😂
@nickbowker5134
@nickbowker5134 2 жыл бұрын
What a beast
@davidturner2365
@davidturner2365 2 жыл бұрын
So cool 👍👍
@ruffriki3264
@ruffriki3264 2 жыл бұрын
Yow Raz, really kool shavings! If Saga could see u now!🤣🤣🤣
@strexttp
@strexttp 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work 👍
@gourobkundu2173
@gourobkundu2173 2 жыл бұрын
Gooodayum !!!!! This thing will fly !!!
@torreyv5430
@torreyv5430 2 жыл бұрын
It would be awsome to see it work!
@Jeremy-ts4xp
@Jeremy-ts4xp 2 жыл бұрын
Sickkkkkkk🔥🔥🔥🔥😎
@hansdahlberg9969
@hansdahlberg9969 2 жыл бұрын
Man! the intro 😆 your so funny
@matthiasreichwein1775
@matthiasreichwein1775 2 жыл бұрын
Raz it's just absolutely crazy what you want to build there
@Ajay-Gainz
@Ajay-Gainz 2 жыл бұрын
I've never seen 4 motors to one pinion. Really curious to see how this works. Usually KISS is the way to go (keep it simple stupid) using 2 bigger motors ... blah blah. But its definitely cool to try new things, and can't wait to see what happens
@Greywolf74
@Greywolf74 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really cool build for bragging rights but that thing isnt anywhere near 60HP. At best The quad motors are putting out somewhere between 35-40HP collectively. Thats assuming that each of those 1650kV motors on 8S consumes somewhere in the neighborhood of 6500-7500 watts each. Castle doesn't tell us the wattage ratings on their motors but a Hobbywing 1650kV on 6S is rated at 5700W. The really big TPPower motors can get up to around 9000W each so going somewhere in the middle of that (which I think is being a bit generous) at 7500W is only about 40HP. If you calculate for 7000W each then you end up at about 37.5HP total. Once you start taking other factors in to account like voltage sag, efficiency, etc youre probably looking at something closer to 30HP for all 4 motors combined. Id like to know how you arrived at 60HP.
@S3irun
@S3irun 2 жыл бұрын
I think he did the following, simple calculation: If 2 motors are rated for 30HP, 4 motors add up to 60HP.
@Greywolf74
@Greywolf74 2 жыл бұрын
@@S3irun Yeah but where did the 15HP per motor rating come from? It didnt come from Castle.
@trevorlaquale6602
@trevorlaquale6602 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah im trying to picture things ive had with actual 15hp... and i couldn't fathom those tiny ass shafts on the motors standing up to 15hp
@trevorlaquale6602
@trevorlaquale6602 2 жыл бұрын
@@Greywolf74 just looked it up, website says can easily reach 10hp range so there not claiming 15 but im shocked
@Greywolf74
@Greywolf74 2 жыл бұрын
@@trevorlaquale6602 10HP I think is still a stretch because I dont think thats taking things like efficiency, voltage sag, etc in to consideration but that number is at least in line with the upper end of what my HP calculations came out to based on Wattage approximations. Im curious though where you found the 10HP rating at because Castle doesnt list that info on their webpage, or at least not anywhere on the page that has the motor specs. You got a link to where you found that at? Im betting if you could Dyno a single 1650kV motor on 8S it would only dyno at maybe 6-8HP per motor.
@fuhkoffandie
@fuhkoffandie 2 жыл бұрын
ahh, carbon fiber, precision cut billet aluminum, 15 horsepower green anodized beasts arranged face to face, yeah I just subbed. I'm in love.💥🤯💥💯💯💯
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